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2022-03-18 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

The Curious Case Of Russia's 'Back From The Dead' Warship That Ukraine Supposedly Struck

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [13 views ] Top

#1 "the fog of war and the myths"
IOW all the media bullshit and propaganda designed to drag us into another pointless war that concerns us not. Like all of this BS

Posted by Hupusoth Whong7273 2022-03-18 00:36|| 2022-03-18 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 As I recall the US airmen shot down more German planes than were ever built

Posted by magpie 2022-03-18 01:12|| 2022-03-18 01:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes of course. Putin painted one of his old ships and gave it the same markings so he wouldn't look like such a loser. Like he secretly buried a hundred thousand Russian soldiers out in Belarus in unmarked graves last week. Fools.

Posted by Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-18 01:24|| 2022-03-18 01:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Which is pretty damn good shooting!!!

Posted by Tyranysaurus Ulomolet3546 2022-03-18 04:16|| 2022-03-18 04:16|| Front Page Top

#5 #3 Yes of course. Putin painted one of his old ships and gave it the same markings so he wouldn't look like such a loser. Like he secretly buried a hundred thousand Russian soldiers out in Belarus in unmarked graves last week. Fools.
Posted by: Cthulhu of Ryleh 2022-03-18 01:24

....During the Cold War, both the Russians and the US were known to paint new bow numbers on smaller combatants to confuse the other side. I'm not saying this is what happened; I haven't seen enough comparison pictures to make a call - but it's quite within the realm of possibility. If I see a pennant number on a Russian warship, I start by assuming a better than even chance it's not accurate.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2022-03-18 06:41|| 2022-03-18 06:41|| Front Page Top

#6
Here is what Ship Tracker shows...for the VASILIY-BIKOV aka MMSI 273549630.

Note the Last paragraph?
"There is the possibility that the Russian Navy could have repainted one of the other two Project 22160 patrol ships, either the Dmitriy Rogachev or the Pavel Derzhavin, to conceal the loss of Vasily Bykov." Could Russia have adjusted and painted VASILIY-BIKOV on one of them as counter Properganda efforts?

BTW: the last "known" location Nov. 2021 puts at 41°07'33.6"N 29°04'53.4"E is in the Maslak, Turkey channel area to the Black Sea.

Posted by NN2N1 2022-03-18 09:00|| 2022-03-18 09:00|| Front Page Top

#7 Somebody probably donated Mk14 torpedoes to the cause. A good chance to clear old inventory.

Posted by Super Hose 2022-03-18 12:25|| 2022-03-18 12:25|| Front Page Top

#8 there were questions about the likelihood of shore-based short-range, unguided artillery rocket systems being able to hit a relatively small target

Multiple launch rocket systems like Grad are used to attack area targets, like men and vehicles in the open. With a missile, you need to hit the exact target, with MLRS, you just need to hit the 100 meter square the ship is in.

The VB may not have been sunk, since a warship is a harder target than people and trucks, but could have been damaged for a mission kill. Or the Russians decided they had worn out their welcome and it was time to leave.

Or the latest sighting of the Vasiliy Bykov is simply an inflatable rubber decoy.

Posted by SteveS 2022-03-18 15:46|| 2022-03-18 15:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Or its The Flying ~~Dutchman~~ Yeltsin.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-03-18 17:05|| 2022-03-18 17:05|| Front Page Top

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