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2022-07-08 Science & Technology
Here's where testing has located 'forever chemicals' in fish caught in Wisconsin waters
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 08:57|| || Front Page|| [12 views ]  Top

#1 More on 'Forever Chemicals' found at this link.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 09:02||   2022-07-08 09:02|| Front Page Top

#2 How harmful are PFAS?

PFAS can be toxic to both humans and wildlife. Two of the most studied of the chemicals in this family, PFOA and PFOS have been shown to:

  • Interfere with the hormonal system (so they are called endocrine disruptors)
  • Interfere with the reproductive system and the development of the foetus
  • Impact the immune system and have been linked to reduced responses to vaccines in children
  • Promote the development of certain cancers (e.g. kidney and testicular cancer)

    It should be noted that many of the thousands of PFAS currently in use are lacking proper toxicological data.
    • Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 09:14||   2022-07-08 09:14|| Front Page Top

    #3 Modern life means modern problems. There are PCBs in the water. There are PCBs in that grey can on the pole across the street.

    We are doing better. Will we ever be perfect.

    Not in this life. Not on this world. Bubbi...
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 09:17||   2022-07-08 09:17|| Front Page Top

    #4 /\ It should be noted that many of the thousands of PFAS currently in use are lacking proper toxicological data.

    Who needs "toxicological data." We've got Pfizer.
    Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 09:17||   2022-07-08 09:17|| Front Page Top

    #5 No mention of actual levels.
    Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-07-08 09:18||   2022-07-08 09:18|| Front Page Top

    #6 Yes. You must be protected from nasty chemicals. So we can kill you with other nasty chemicals...
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 09:18||   2022-07-08 09:18|| Front Page Top

    #7 Highland Park shooter? Probably little more than a coincidence. Alex Jones to the white courtesy phone please. Mr. Alex Jones.
    Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 09:21||   2022-07-08 09:21|| Front Page Top

    #8 ^ The poisons that one absorbed did not come from the water.
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 09:25||   2022-07-08 09:25|| Front Page Top

    #9 /\ Excellent point.
    Posted by Besoeker 2022-07-08 09:31||   2022-07-08 09:31|| Front Page Top

    #10 There are a number of reasons firefighters have a higher rate of cancer than the general population, but pretty sure the foam isn't on the top 10.

    Except Carl, who likes doing the hot tub thing with it.
    Posted by swksvolFF 2022-07-08 10:38||   2022-07-08 10:38|| Front Page Top

    #11 Firefighters? A job where breathing toxic smoke and particulates is normal. Courageous and often Heroic --- the latter term is something I do not use lightly.
    Posted by magpie 2022-07-08 11:00||   2022-07-08 11:00|| Front Page Top

    #12 Is this another Linear-No Threshold (LNT) Theory paper where one molecule dooms, Dooms! I say!, anyone to a lingering death?

    Not that I want to eat stuff like that, but I wonder why the human race did not go extinct millennia ago if the world is so toxic?
    Posted by magpie 2022-07-08 11:05||   2022-07-08 11:05|| Front Page Top

    #13 Yes. The very first smoke particle that was not the result of a lightning strike, volcanic activity, spontaneous biologic combustion or meteorite crash was the first carcinogenic particle. Even though it occurred before any mammals existed to develop cancer...
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 11:22||   2022-07-08 11:22|| Front Page Top

    #14 Soooo... Can my Brita water filter remove the nasty chemicals mentioned above?
    Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2022-07-08 17:06||   2022-07-08 17:06|| Front Page Top

    #15 No
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 17:08||   2022-07-08 17:08|| Front Page Top

    #16 Water filters are another oversold thing. They can remove particulates and some chlorides. They can't remove most complex organic molecules.
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 17:10||   2022-07-08 17:10|| Front Page Top

    #17 Reverse osmosis & distillation are the most effective.
    Posted by Chealing Chomotle4158 2022-07-08 17:35||   2022-07-08 17:35|| Front Page Top

    #18 If you are really worried, distilled water is the best. But if you don't oxygenate it and add minerals, it's nasty. Truly de-ionized water is just bad for you.
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 17:38||   2022-07-08 17:38|| Front Page Top

    #19 A friend of mine who was an analytical chemist said "De-I water will wreck your skin quick..."
    Posted by M. Murcek 2022-07-08 17:44||   2022-07-08 17:44|| Front Page Top

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