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2023-07-06 Science & Technology

Electric F-150 loses 25% of range with full payload, AAA study finds, gas version can drive 200 miles farther

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Posted by Besoeker 2023-07-06 01:43|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top

#1 The EV effort at Ford will continue until the Federal Loan money runs out. Failure is not an option.

Posted by Besoeker 2023-07-06 01:54|| 2023-07-06 01:54|| Front Page Top

#2 GAS F-150
Time to refill an empty gas using F-150 = 10 -15 mins.
Range in miles (city/hwy) 494.0/572.0 mi.
Fuel tank capacity 26.0 gal.

EV F-150
Time to recharge an empty EV F-150?
'According to Ford, using a 150kW+ DC fast charger, the standard 98 kWh battery packs can take about 44+ minutes. Charging from home will take about 14 hours to complete a full charge at 220V.'

The EV F-150 EPA estimated range is 230 miles.
But far less MPKW when used carrying loads over 400 LBS (☺ which includes the Bi-Ped's, for you Pronoun types out there.)

Now think of a truck used in daily deliver or construction.

Can you see the UPS/FEDX/USPS now?
1. Overnight & 2 day postal/package delivery disappears.
2. Due to delivery locations and distances customers will have to bring in, or pick up their shipments.

Posted by NN2N1 2023-07-06 07:06|| 2023-07-06 07:06|| Front Page Top

#3 It's time to get ahead of the curve and buy up ground for massage parlors and c@$in0s around EV charging sites. Then people will have something to do while waiting for their vehicle to charge.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-06 07:11|| 2023-07-06 07:11|| Front Page Top

#4 I had a delivery job in college.
200 miles a day, in a Pinto.
I don't imagine the Lightning as a delivery platform.

Posted by Skidmark 2023-07-06 07:11|| 2023-07-06 07:11|| Front Page Top

#5 But you can run your house with one. For a finite set of hours. I seen it in an ad!

Posted by Frank G 2023-07-06 07:15|| 2023-07-06 07:15|| Front Page Top

#6 25% drop might be applicable for newer batteries.

I'd imagine that it might be a tad more with older ones.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-07-06 07:59|| 2023-07-06 07:59|| Front Page Top

#7 You will have one expensive piece of junk on your hands when the battery life is over.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-06 08:08|| 2023-07-06 08:08|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ EV trade in allowances not good. Disposal fees may be quite prohibitive. Most HOA's will likely not approve long-term backyard storage.

Posted by Besoeker 2023-07-06 08:12|| 2023-07-06 08:12|| Front Page Top

#9 The French are pioneers in vehicle disposal.

Posted by Super Hose 2023-07-06 12:03|| 2023-07-06 12:03|| Front Page Top

#10 I remember a joke from the early 1960's.

Q: What's a three time loser?

A: A pregnant prostitute who voted for Nixon and drives an Edsel.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-07-06 12:40|| 2023-07-06 12:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Or, definition of mixed feelings: "Watching your mother-in-law go off a cliff in your new Cadillac..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-06 12:44|| 2023-07-06 12:44|| Front Page Top

#12 C'mon, Man! Even your gas-powered F-150 (or Pinto, for that matter) got fewer MPGs when loaded. Or driven faster. More energy required means more fuel used.

Posted by Bobby 2023-07-06 12:49|| 2023-07-06 12:49|| Front Page Top

#13 Well, it's a given lots of "urban cowboys" never put so much as a sheet of plywood in the bed of their purty truck. But some people do actually use them as they were designed to be used.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-07-06 12:55|| 2023-07-06 12:55|| Front Page Top

#14 As Bobby says, this is not surprising. Now do the test in winter. Both without and with the windshield defroster blowing, please.

There are use cases where electric vehicles make sense. A fleet of autonomous JohnnyCab(tm)s roaming about downtown and returning to their charging stations while waiting for the next passenger would be one.

Pickup trucks, airplanes and long-haul trucking are not good good applications. It is easy to tell. Ask yourself: Do I want to haul around a half ton of batteries or a half ton of payload?

Posted by SteveS 2023-07-06 20:35|| 2023-07-06 20:35|| Front Page Top

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