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2025-05-14 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Shaddup, Already! The Air Force One 'Gift' Is Having Its Intended Effect

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Posted by trailing wife 2025-05-14 2025-05-14 00:49|| || Front Page|| [180 views ] Top

#1 Trump continues to defend Qatar gifting US $400M jet: 'We should have the most impressive plane'

Posted by Skidmark 2025-05-14 03:19|| 2025-05-14 03:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Did somebody say "labor problems at Boeing"? Kinda like General Motors, huh? The unions are their own worst enemy. Or, should I say, the union bosses are the workers' worst enemy? Otherwise, we wouldn't be so dependent on China.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-05-14 11:59|| 2025-05-14 11:59|| Front Page Top

#3 People seems to forget that the plane in question is a used plane. It most likely already paid for itself for Qatar.

What iust the plane really worth in the used market?

According to a quick search, a used Boeing 747-8 range from $20 millions to $150 millions.

Since this is a custom plane, I imaged the plane would be closer toward the higher range of the used price, but nowhere near the 'brand new' $400 price tag.

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2025-05-14 15:13|| 2025-05-14 15:13|| Front Page Top

#4 $400 millions duh.

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2025-05-14 16:05|| 2025-05-14 16:05|| Front Page Top

#5 was there a reason why the 747 had to be used

the 777 and 787 are good models and, although not quite as wide, would seem easier to outfit than the older 747

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-05-14 17:25|| 2025-05-14 17:25|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't see why not... well...

The 787 has well documented manufacturing issues so it might be a non-starter.

The 777 does seems like a better choice. But I think the limitation of both versions is that they are twin engines planes, thus there's no real redundancy in case of an 'engine out' scenario. It would be much cheaper to operate for sure!

The 747 with its quad engines can fly on two engines if needed.

Plus the 747 has room for electronics (upper deck) and room to haul around a bunch of officials, security and reporters. The president does not fly alone.

Note that there are two presidential 747, one to carry the prescient and assorted personals and the other to carry the security transports and additional ground prepare personals. (And be an emergency backup if needed.)

Its almost never just one plane

Still, Its an idea worth considering, especially if one can equip the twins with four engines, very much like on the B-52, but with better and more fuel efferent engines.

Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2025-05-14 20:39|| 2025-05-14 20:39|| Front Page Top

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