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Bhutto's assassination triggers riots
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Afghanistan
More than 4500 Taliban members have defected
More than 4500 Taliban insurgents have defected since 2005 and up to 4000 others have been killed in action against British and Canadian forces in southern Afghanistan, according to military intelligence sources. Many are believed to have deserted the militant side as a result of a combination of persuasion by British and Afghan government agents and the realisation that they could never counter Nato airpower, the single biggest cause of their losses in battle.

The latest intelligence briefing available to alliance military commanders says that the Taliban can field up to 10,000 fighters at any given time in the south and east of the country, but that only 2000 to 3000 of these are highly motivated, full-time jihadis.
The latest intelligence briefing available to alliance military commanders says that the Taliban can field up to 10,000 fighters at any given time in the south and east of the country, but that only 2000 to 3000 of these are highly motivated, full-time jihadis. The rest are locals paid up to £25 a day - the equivalent of about a month's wages for rural Afghan farmers - to pick up a gun and attack Nato troops.

A British officer with wide experience in Helmand told The Herald yesterday: "We reckon that the Taliban has lost perhaps two-thirds of its field commanders in Helmand and Kandahar in the last year or so. That has weakened its tactical structure, although it is unlikely to stem the flow of paid or religiously motivated recruits. Where the Nato countries represent an alliance of the willing, the Taliban is essentially an alliance of vested interests. There are religious warriors, drug lords who fear an erosion of their trade, simple poppy-farmers who take up arms to protect their livelihood and men sent by warlords to keep the pot boiling and deny Kabul control.

The core Taliban operations in the south are run by Mullah Omar from a headquarters in Quetta. A second front is operated by the Haqqani clan in Paktia and Khost provinces to the north and east and a third in the north and west is controlled by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
"It's been a central plank of Nato alliance strategy to try to divide and rule. There are British and other agents who speak the local languages and are versed in the labyrinthine tribal politics of the region working covertly to split support away from the hard-liners. It's hardly a new phenomenon. We were doing the same thing as an imperial power in the 1800s, only then the objective of The Great Game was to thwart Russian territorial ambitions and deny the czars the means of threatening our control of India."

A CIA source added: "Our best estimate is that 10% of the hardliners Nato faces are foreign jihadis, mainly Chechens, Uzbeks and Arabs. They have stepped in to fill the gaps left by the combat attrition of local Taliban midlevel leaders."

The core Taliban operations in the south are run by Mullah Omar, the movement's spiritual head, from a headquarters in Quetta on the Pakistani side of the Afghan frontier. A second front is operated by the Haqqani clan in Paktia and Khost provinces to the north and east and a third in the north and west is controlled by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a warlord who has worked for the anti-Soviet mujahideen, the CIA and Pakistan in his time.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  2000 - 3000 motivated Jihadis? When you think about it, that's a pretty small number for such an organized group. This war is far from over, but reading today's headlines, I'd say these guys are becoming yesterday's news.
Posted by: Whomong Guelph4611 || 12/28/2007 5:28 Comments || Top||

#2  i know the big fish is omar but am i the only person who wants toosee Heks head on a platter
Posted by: sinse || 12/28/2007 7:27 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd like to see all the Haqqanis layed out elbow to elbow, too.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 8:29 Comments || Top||

#4  The core Taliban operations in the south are run by Mullah Omar, the movement's spiritual head, from a headquarters in Quetta on the Pakistani side!!!!

How long have we known this and Quetta still has not been targeted-Why????
Posted by: Paul || 12/28/2007 10:00 Comments || Top||

#5  they couldn't write the orders. Seems that there's a world-wide shortage of punctuation points, exclamation marks, and question marks. Someone's been using them all up. Any ideas?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 11:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Frank G comedian you are not!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 12/28/2007 11:25 Comments || Top||

#7  I try ;-)

In fact most people who know me comment on how trying I am...
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 11:29 Comments || Top||

#8  He's trying, he's very trying.

He oughta be on stage.

there's one leaving in 9 minutes

/Waving at my father-in-law somewhere out there
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 12/28/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#9  I thought the headline was '4500 Taliban members have defects'. I knew that number was low.
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger || 12/28/2007 13:20 Comments || Top||

#10  lol ...youse guyz
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 13:28 Comments || Top||

#11  The rest are locals paid up to £25 a day - the equivalent of about a month's wages for rural Afghan farmers - to pick up a gun and attack Nato troops.

It's a living I guess....wonder if they get paid in advance?

The outlaw Josey Wales
Dyin' aint much of a living boy...

Posted by: Tony (UK) || 12/28/2007 14:02 Comments || Top||

#12  The real war is in Pakistan.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 12/28/2007 16:37 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
South Sudanese rejoin national government
KHARTOUM - Former south Sudanese rebels rejoined the national government on Thursday, two months after walking out because of disputes over the implementation of a peace deal that ended two decades of war.

The move came after Sudanese President Omar Al Beshir signed decrees giving cabinet posts to members of the former rebel Sudan People’s Liberation Movement, an official said. Beshir has given 16 posts to the SPLM — seven ministers and six ministers of state and three presidential advisors who are due to be sworn in on Thursday.

The SPLM led by First Vice President Salva Kiir quit the cabinet in October complaining that the north was failing to implement the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement that ended Africa’s longest-running civil war. The CPA provides for a six-year transition period in which the south would enjoy regional autonomy and participate in a national unity government ahead of a 2011 referendum on the region’s future status.

Relations between Khartoum and the south had been increasingly unstable and a first round of talks aimed at resolving the crisis broke down on November 11. But the two sides announced on December 12 that an agreement had been reached that would pave the way for the return of the southerners to the cabinet. Among the new appointments is Deng Alor who replaces Lam Akol as foreign minister.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Sudan


UN: Sudan obstructs peace force deployment to Darfur
On the eve of taking over difficult duties in Darfur, the United Nations said that Khartoum was obstructing the deployment of a UN-African Union joint peacekeeping force that would contribute to peace in Sudan's troubled region.

The UN-African Union Mission in Darfur, known by its acronym UNAMID, will take over Monday from an African force to try its utmost to protect civilians, facilitate humanitarian aid operations and create an environment for peace to take root. But on its first day at work, the joint force will have just over 9,000 military personnel instead of the authorized strength of 20,000 troops, more than 6,000 police and an additional significant civilian component. Once fully deployed, which will take months, UNAMID will be the largest peacekeeping operation in the world...
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Sudan

#1  WND/TOPIX > FEAR OF WAR RISING/INCREASING IN THE HORN OF AFRICA. Its NOT just Ethiopia-Etritrea anymore.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/28/2007 0:11 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Livni crossed red line in criticising Egypt, sez Mubarak
JERUSALEM - Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak slammed Israel’s foreign minister for crossing a red line in her criticism of Cairo’s efforts to halt arms smuggling to Gaza, in an interview published on Thursday.
Uh-oh, the National Dignity™ has been offended.
“Tzipi Livni crossed a red line with me,” Mubarak told Israel’s mass-selling Yediot Aharonot daily. “It’s very easy to sit in an office and criticise our performance on the ground,” Mubarak said. “This works to dampen the atmosphere. Relations with Israel are very important to me — do not ruin them.”

“If you disapprove of the way we handle arms smuggling, you’re welcome to do the job yourselves,” he said. “Tzipi Livni’s running to the media to complain about us and to give us grades, instead of picking up the phone or sending someone, crossed a red line with me.”

He was referring to Livni’s comments before Israel’s foreign affairs and defence committee on Monday in which she slammed Egyptian efforts to crack down on arms smuggling into the Hamas-run Gaza Strip. “Their actions are problematic and are risking the possibility of advancing in the peace process,” she was quoted as saying.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ok. Now can Elyezer Shkedy "cross a red line" and blow up the Aswan dam?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/28/2007 5:39 Comments || Top||

#2  g(r)omgoru, impatient, are we?
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 12/28/2007 8:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Since 1977.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/28/2007 15:35 Comments || Top||


Britain
Britain Drops 'War on Terror' Label
The words "war on terror" will no longer be used by the British government to describe attacks on the public, the country's chief prosecutor said Dec. 27. Sir Ken Macdonald said terrorist fanatics were not soldiers fighting a war but simply members of an aimless "death cult."

The Director of Public Prosecutions said: 'We resist the language of warfare, and I think the government has moved on this. It no longer uses this sort of language." London is not a battlefield, he said. "The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

His remarks signal a change in emphasis across Whitehall, where the "war on terror" language has officially been ditched. Officials were concerned it could act as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, which is determined to manufacture a battle between Islam and the West. The term "Islamic terrorist" will also no longer be used. Officials believe it is unhelpful because it appears to directly link the religion to terrorist atrocities.

In an interview with BBC Radio's World at One, Macdonald made a fresh attack on plans to extend beyond 28 days the length of time a terror suspect can be held without trial. He said that the evidence had shown that the existing limit was working well and he accused ministers of legislating on the basis of 'hypotheticals'.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/28/2007 07:38 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  "War on Terror" is not really a good label. It tries to beat around the bushes of the real issue. So, what the Brits do? Ban "Islamic Terrorism".

"We can't upset our Islamic overlords. God save Khalif Charles!"
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 12/28/2007 8:10 Comments || Top||

#2  This just in ... England is abandoning the Bulldog as it's national mascot in favor of the French poodle.
Posted by: doc || 12/28/2007 8:22 Comments || Top||

#3  ... since the French have begun using the more formidable Weimeraner.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 8:32 Comments || Top||

#4  We resist the language of warfare...

And apparently all other forms of warfare as well. Welcome your new Islamic overlords.
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/28/2007 9:40 Comments || Top||

#5  "The people who were murdered on July 7 were not the victims of war. The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

No blood for narcissists!
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/28/2007 9:47 Comments || Top||

#6  The term "Islamic terrorist" will also no longer be used. Officials believe it is unhelpful because it appears to directly link the religion to terrorist atrocities.

Because as we know there is no direct link between a religion advocating war against non-believers and proponents of said religion carrying out war against non-believers.
Posted by: Excalibur || 12/28/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#7  I prefer 'War on Koran' because this is where their ideology/terrorism comes from!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 12/28/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#8  The new name: "Britain's Great Pillow Fight on...Something".
Sponsored by Vaseline.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/28/2007 10:02 Comments || Top||

#9  Now officially known as the "Civilised effort to herd fluffy bunnies and baby ducks to safety..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/28/2007 11:14 Comments || Top||

#10  tu's close, but I propose: "Bite the pillow"
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 11:27 Comments || Top||

#11  Please don't confuse ordinary Brits with the spineless wankers that currently inhabit Whitehall.

I don't do it with Americans ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 12/28/2007 12:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Never that, Tony.

The distinction is quite clear.

;-)
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/28/2007 12:11 Comments || Top||

#13  :-)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 12/28/2007 13:14 Comments || Top||

#14  "Extermination of the Death Cult" works for me, though "Extermination of the Islamist Death Cult" would be more accurate.
Posted by: KBK || 12/28/2007 13:36 Comments || Top||

#15  OK, so "terror" is to be replaced by "death cult," and "war" is to eliminated, but what will replace "war"? They need a word to describe how the government of Britain is responding to the death cultists. Since we must eschew war-like terms, I suppose it will either be the "disagreement with the death cult," the "ignoring of the death cult," or the "appeasement of the death cult." Since we are not told which, perhaps they are still making up their minds?
Posted by: Skunky Angeack7024 || 12/28/2007 13:39 Comments || Top||

#16  How about a tried and true term from the past like "Crusade"?
Posted by: Steve || 12/28/2007 13:59 Comments || Top||

#17  "Crusade" works for me Steve.

The men who killed them were not soldiers," Macdonald said. "They were fantasists, narcissists, murderers and criminals and need to be responded to in that way."

Just what Clinton did. Treat Islam as a legal matter instead of a war. Didn't work for him ether.

Spit.
Posted by: Icerigger || 12/28/2007 14:38 Comments || Top||

#18  Koran motivated mass murder?

We had a story on vitamin D deficiency. The MSM just couldn't say "caused by wearing burkas". Very Orwellian when the state "news" clouds the news, rather than reveals the truth.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 12/28/2007 16:49 Comments || Top||

#19  PAYVAND > UK HELD SECRET TALKS WITH IRAN 20 YEARS AGO, vv France, Germany, etc. for construx of approxi 20 domestic nuke power plants.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/28/2007 19:59 Comments || Top||

#20  Doesn't Bush and the US own the trademark on WoT™?
Where to the Brits get off changing it?
Posted by: 3dc || 12/28/2007 21:50 Comments || Top||

#21  #16: How about a tried and true term from the past like "Crusade"?

I prefer the universal phrase "Exterminate" like lice and all other vermin.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/28/2007 21:51 Comments || Top||

#22  Jihadi-trained Daleks would be nice. ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour || 12/28/2007 22:34 Comments || Top||

#23  London is not a battlefield... ...yet.

Posted by: GK || 12/28/2007 22:49 Comments || Top||

#24  What about 7/11?
Posted by: 3dc || 12/28/2007 23:24 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
South Korea extends Iraq troop deployment by one year
Posted by: mrp || 12/28/2007 12:06 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Video: Ron Paul Blames US Policy for Bhutto Killing
Ron Paul blames the assassination of Benazir Bhutto on the “interventionist” policy of the United States, and says Al Qaeda is justified in being “annoyed” at us.

This man is unfit to be president,or vice-president, or a cabinet secretary, or a second deputy assistant to the second assistant undersecretary, or even a receptionist. If I were a libertarian, I'd be incensed that the public face of my ideological movement is someone who sides with medieval mass murderers against the civilized world.
Posted by: Mike || 12/28/2007 06:36 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  Surely by now, someone/thing has blamed Bush for this, as a pretense to invade Parkistan.
Posted by: Bobby || 12/28/2007 7:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Ron Paul is a nut and a neo-nazi (or if not fully one, is at least sympathetic and has very deep, close ties to them). The man thing, has no business running on the Republican ticket.
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/28/2007 7:43 Comments || Top||

#3  And fools shine on.
Posted by: newc || 12/28/2007 8:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Still, there is that crop-circle thing and the Ambrose Bierce coverup. We need to look at all things with 3 eyes open.

sry, wrng blg
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 12/28/2007 13:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Ron Paul would probably make one helluva house painter...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/28/2007 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Texans should look closely at this man and what he says, to determine whether he needs to be returned to Congress or not. He certainly as he$$ doesn't need to be given any ADDITIONAL responsibilities. He's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a nutjob of the first order.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/28/2007 16:26 Comments || Top||

#7  OK, look, we put up with Alan Keyes. We can put up with Ron Paul. He's a joke. He's a sideshow. He's comic relief.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 12/28/2007 16:43 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan in turmoil as Bhutto buried
The ripples of the assassination of Pakistan's former prime minister Benazir Bhutto on Thursday continued to widen on Friday morning as the slain opposition leader's funeral was stained by skyrocketing violence throughout the country and outside it.

As Bhutto was being laid to rest, her furious supporters across the country ransacked banks, waged shootouts with police and burned train stations in a spasm of violence that threatened to plunge the country into deep turmoil less than two weeks before a crucial election.
So Islamic, it brings a tear to my eye.
President Pervez Musharraf's government allowed police to open fire on rioters disrupting the funeral, as the series of terror attacks sparked by the assassination continued.

A roadside bomb went off near a vehicle carrying a local leader from the ruling party in northwestern Pakistan, killing him and three of his associates, police said.

Early Friday morning, at least nine people were killed in clashes across the nuclear-armed US ally. In Indian-controlled Kashmir, Police clashed with hundreds of stone-throwing demonstrators protesting the assassination of Bhutto.
Cause it's all the Hindus fault!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/28/2007 06:47 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  In Indian-controlled Kashmir, Police clashed with hundreds of stone-throwing demonstrators protesting the assassination of Bhutto.

One of Benazir's most famous speeches was to a crowd in Muzarrafabad, Pak Kashmir.

She declared the campaign in Kashmir "Holy Jehad".
Whipping the crowd into a frenzy she screamed Jagmohan ko jag-jag mo-mo han-han kar do making chopping gestures with her hands.
(chop Jagmohan into pieces)
Jagmohan was then the Governor of Indian Kashmir.
Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 7:17 Comments || Top||

#2  One of Benazir's most famous speeches was to a crowd in Muzarrafabad, Pak Kashmir

A better looking Abu Mazen.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/28/2007 7:28 Comments || Top||

#3  a kleptocrat in a Hermes scarf

the difference is that Benazir is a pro at playing to the West. And that's what counts. She talks about women and extremism and the West applauds. And then conspires.

Of all Pakistan's elected leaders she conspicuously did the least to help the cause of women. She never, for example, repealed the Hudood Ordinances, Pakistan's controversial laws that made no distinction between rape and adultery.

She preferred instead to kowtow to the mullahs in order to cling to power, forming an expedient alliance with Pakistan's Religious Coalition Party and leaving Pakistan's women as powerless as she found them.
Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 7:33 Comments || Top||

#4  hell assasinate 5 every week and they will eventually kill each other off
Posted by: sinse || 12/28/2007 8:52 Comments || Top||

#5  From In From the Cold...

While the death of Mrs. Bhutto and her supporters is a human tragedy, it would be a mistake to characterize the late Prime Minister as some sort of political savior or saint. As the Abu Muqawama blog observed:

The folks on NBC, though, are making it sound as if Bhutto was some brave liberal alternative to the Musharraf regime, swallowing hook, line, and sinker this narrative that Benazir Bhutto was some kind of Pakistani Aung San Suu Kyi.

Okay, folks, we all know she was eloquent, went to Harvard and Oxford and was a darling of the English-language media. But she was arguably the most corrupt woman in the history of South Asia. She was removed from office not once but twice on corruption charges. And ruthless? She killed her own brother in 1996.
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/28/2007 9:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Her Grandfather was also a klepto.

One of his last acts as prime minister of the princely state of Junagadh (absorbed into India at Partition in 1947) was to loot the entire state treasury and cart it off to Pakistan.

Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 9:40 Comments || Top||

#7  I remember, John. You showed us pix of the rubies once.

:: sigh ::
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/28/2007 9:49 Comments || Top||

#8  That was Hyderabad..

Junagadh was another state
Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#9  The Khan of Kalat (now in Pak Balochistan) also resisted amalgamation into Pakistan at partition.
He was made to sign the instrument of accession at gunpoint.

On the Indian side, the Maharajah of Jaipur accompanied the Indian home minister Sardar Patel as he visted each of the 565 Princely states and informed each Maharajah quite bluntly that the old days were over. Under the Indian Independence Act passed by the UK Parliament, they had to give up power and join either India or Pakistan.
Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 10:17 Comments || Top||

#10  Sardar Patel handled the accession of all the princely states except one - Kashmir.

Nehru, who was himself Kashmiri, handled that himself.. and botched the thing up.

In the end it was Patel who had to give the order...

from an interview with Field Marshall Sam Manekshaw....

At the morning meeting he handed over the (Accession) thing. Mountbatten turned around and said, ' come on Manekji (He called me Manekji instead of Manekshaw), what is the military situation?' I gave him the military situation, and told him that unless we flew in troops immediately, we would have lost Srinagar, because going by road would take days, and once the tribesmen got to the airport and Srinagar, we couldn't fly troops in. Everything was ready at the airport.

As usual Nehru talked about the United Nations, Russia, Africa, God almighty, everybody, until Sardar Patel lost his temper. He said, 'Jawaharlal, do you want Kashmir, or do you want to give it away'. He (Nehru) said,' Of course, I want Kashmir (emphasis in original). Then he (Patel) said 'Please give your orders'. And before he could say anything Sardar Patel turned to me and said, 'You have got your orders'.

Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 10:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Good find on 'the kleptocrat in a hermes scarf' article John - the articles in 'The Times' today were suitably fawning, but, perhaps its too early after her death to be 'honest' about her. This is the MSM we're talking about after all.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 12/28/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Wake me when the rioters go for the nuke sites.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 12/28/2007 16:45 Comments || Top||


Live streaming video of Bhutto funeral
Posted by: phil_b || 12/28/2007 06:23 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


PML-Q leaders go underground
A majority of PML-Q leaders immediately went underground after the killing of Benazir Bhutto in Rawalpindi on Thursday, AAJ TV reported. The channel reported that most of the PML-Q local and national leaders switched off their cell phones and were being reported as being ‘not at home’ on their landline numbers.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


It's state terrorism, says Nawaz
Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif said on Thursday that the tragic death of Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Chairwoman Benazir Bhutto was a result of state terrorism, according to Daily Times staff reporter Aamir Yasin. Addressing PPP workers at Rawalpindi General Hospital (RGH), where Bhutto succumbed to hre injuries, Nawaz said Benazir’s death would be avenged not only by the PPP workers but also by the nation. “The nation will take revenge of Benazir’s killing,” he said. “Musharraf government is incapable of controlling the situation and people are facing the result of his policies,” NNI quoted Nawaz as saying.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Perv had sanctioned this so blame would be on Islamic extremist which he also loves/funds!!!
Posted by: Paul || 12/28/2007 10:04 Comments || Top||


Taliban leader warns against using religion for electoral gains


BANNU: A senior Taliban leader warned parties on Thursday against “using religion for electoral gains”, saying they would join parties urging boycott of January 8 polls.
“In Shariah, democracy is un-Islamic. Our movement is completely against what you call democracy."
“In Shariah, democracy is un-Islamic. Our movement is completely against what you call democracy in which a small majority can decide irrespective of the fact whether what they have done was good or bad,” the Taliban leader, bravely asking not to be named, told Daily Times in an interview here. He said the Taliban were “against elements who are using Islam for electoral gains”.

The warning comes at a time when Maulana Fazlur Rehman, contesting the National Assembly seat NA-26 in Bannu besides NA-24 (Dera Ismail Khan), is rallying for party candidates to win as many National and provincial assembly seats amidst stiff challenges from rival candidates in southern districts of the Frontier province, the JUI-F heartland.

Severe punishment:
“Our members in Bannu district are strictly barred from taking part in the elections and anyone found guilty of violating the directive will be severely punished.”
“Our members in Bannu district are strictly barred from taking part in the elections and anyone found guilty of violating the directive will be severely punished,” said the senior Taliban leader who did not wish to be identified. He said there were around 500 Taliban members in Bannu city. “We will join forces trying to convince the people that people’s solution of problems does not rest with democracy,” he said.

Taliban divided: A candidate contesting provincial assembly seat PF-72 said the Taliban were “divided” over their support for the JUI-F in Bannu district, very close to North Waziristan. “Some of the Taliban support the JUI-F but some of them do not,” private candidate Dr Sahib Zaman told Daily Times. Maulana Fazlur Rehman, according to the government, is on the “hit-list of terrorists”.

Police sources in Dera Ismail Khan said on Tuesday that a bulletproof jeep was provided to the JUI-F and his security level was upped following a suicide attack on former interior minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao on Eid in Charsadda district.

The JUI-F chief denied that he was target of terrorists but acknowledged that the government did notify him that he was a likely target of terrorists.

No immediate threat: “I do not think there is an immediate threat to my life. Why should I be killed?” the JUI-F chief told Daily Times on Tuesday moments after he addressed local party leaders and vehemently dismissed as “baseless” accusations that he made little efforts to stop military operations in tribal areas.

This article starring:
Maulana Fazlur RehmanJUI-F
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  "Our movement is completely against what you call democracy in which a small majority can decide"

Oh, yaasssss. Better a small minority of holy men tell you what to do
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 7:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Time to turn them all into (bullet) holey men...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 12/28/2007 11:17 Comments || Top||

#3  FG: Better a small minority of holy men tell you what to do

I would word it thus:

Better a small minority of self-proclaimed holy men tell you what to do
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/28/2007 20:20 Comments || Top||

#4  ZF - you notice I didn't capitalize "holy" ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 12/28/2007 20:45 Comments || Top||


Bhutto's body arrives in Sukkur
An air force plane carrying the body of slain Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto arrived in the southern city of Sukkur today ahead of her funeral in her home town, party officials said. Bhutto's body will be taken to her home town of Naudero in a helicopter, they said. Her husband Asif Zardari, who had earlier flown from Dubai to Islamabad, and their three children travelled in the plane. They had a brief chance to see the body before the aircraft left Islamabad, the party officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel rebuffs Abbas over settlement halt
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert baulked at a total freeze in settlement activity demanded by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas during their meeting in Jerusalem on Thursday, an Israeli official said. “The prime minister has not promised to freeze tenders that have already been published and are already under way,” a senior Israeli official said.

Israeli and Palestinian leaders had met to try to unblock peace talks that have stalled after just two sessions over the issue of Israeli settlements. “The meeting will focus on the need to halt settlements in Palestinian territory,” Abbas spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina said prior to meeting, adding that “up to now, negotiations have been stalled because of Israel. Peace needs a real push forward,” he said. “Israel must take serious measures to inspire confidence in the Palestinian people and the Arab world.”
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  But, but, but my new girlfriend promised me a Judenfrei Palestine.
Posted by: Abu Mazen || 12/28/2007 6:58 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Bali bombers denied request to be beheaded
THE three Bali bombers on death row will be denied their request to be executed by beheading and will face a firing squad, officials say. Lawyers for the men - Amrozi, Imam Samudra and Ali Gufron - had argued they should be allowed to die in a traditional Islamic way by having their heads cut off by a sword. But officials said they would not change the regulations.

The three men have told their lawyers they will not appeal for clemency from Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Officials said that if no application for clemency was lodged within a month the executions would be carried out immediately. But one of the men's lawyers, Achmad Michdan, told journalists they planned to lodge an official letter next month complaining they did not get a fair hearing when the Supreme Court reviewed their cases this month.

Meanwhile, 10 Muslim extremists convicted over the bombings in Bali in 2002 and 2005 have been given a reduction in their sentences of up to six weeks to mark an Islamic holiday. Iham Djaja, governor of Bali's Kerobokan jail, announced the reductions two days after the Australian Schapelle Corby learnt she had been denied one for a second time this year because she had been found with a mobile phone in her cell.

Mr Djaja told journalists the sentence reductions were approved by authorities in Jakarta to mark Idul Fitri, the end of the Islamic fasting month. Corby, serving a 20-year sentence for possessing cannabis, had been eligible for a sentence reduction at Christmas because she is a Christian.
This article starring:
Jemaah Islamiah
Ali GufronJemaah Islamiyah
AmroziJemaah Islamiyah
Imam SamudraJemaah Islamiyah
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Jemaah Islamiyah

#1  Streach it out a bit, issue the firing squad
Daisy Red Riders.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/28/2007 0:49 Comments || Top||

#2  (They) had argued they should be allowed to die in a traditional Islamic way by having their heads cut off by a sword. But officials said they would not change the regulations.

Buried in one piece whether they like it or not...

I would allow the beheadings only if surviving family members are allowed to take a whack at the heads with a baseball bat (cricket bat in their case) after the heads are suspended pinata style at an appropriate location. Otherwise no beheadings!

Seriously though, as it is probably a dignity issue with these slimes with Homo Sapiens DNA, then they must die with the least dignity possible, for the cowards that they are.... No beheadings is a good decision.
Posted by: BigEd || 12/28/2007 1:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't think they play cricket in Indonesia (never a British colony).

I dunno about the beheading bit... a blunt saw might do the job and satisfy all parties....
Posted by: john frum || 12/28/2007 7:28 Comments || Top||

#4  how did someone for possesion of pot get thrown into an article about terrorist? ilike the daisy red rider idea myself
Posted by: sinse || 12/28/2007 7:31 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm in favor of slowly lowering them into a pen full of starving pigs.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/28/2007 9:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Lower them head first into bacon dripping.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 12/28/2007 18:25 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Russia Denies Plans to Sell New S-300 Missile Defense System to Iran
Posted by: 3dc || 12/28/2007 18:23 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  De Nile, or Iranian wishful thiking? Or the Ogonyekmashinaexport salesman initiative and srcew up?
Posted by: twobyfour || 12/28/2007 19:14 Comments || Top||

#2  HMMMMMM. the S-300 "AIR DEFENSE" SYSTEM versus the S-300 "MISSLE DEFENSE" SYSTEM???

ION, RIAN > RETIRED GENERAL SAYS SOVIET INCURSION INTO AFGHANISTAN WAS JUSTIFIED. Soviets were responding to looming Afghan TERROR THREATS TO USSR + REGION, + argues that the Sov-AFgh Commies did a lot of good for the locals. *IOW, SSSHHHH OSAMA + AQ [and by extens THAT GUY FROM GUAM], etc. FOUGHT FOR THE WRONG SIDE - SHOULD'VE FOUGHT FOR MOSCOW/COMMUNISM INSTEAD???

Lest we fergit, TOPIX > THE COMMUNIST ROOTS OF PALESTINIAN [MUSLIM/ISLAMIC] TERROR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/28/2007 19:48 Comments || Top||

#3  THE COMMUNIST ROOTS OF PALESTINIAN [MUSLIM/ISLAMIC] TERROR

Joe, the roots are going back 1400 years. But that is not to say they were not nurtured by nazis and commies alike, for their own ends.
Posted by: twobyfour || 12/28/2007 20:12 Comments || Top||


MP Muawad demands an apology from Amal to the Christians
Lebanon's MP and minister Nailah Muawad strongly condemned the statement of Sheikh Hassan Al-Masri, a member of the Political Bureau of the Amal movement, who stated that "Speaker Nabih Berri, is the true mother of that child in the cave “,( in reference to Virgin May and Jesus Christ) and who attacked Bishop Beshara El Rahi ( whose Arabic name translates to shepherd) when he said: " You are the shepherd who forgot his parish and became an expert on the Constitution . Since you don’t understand the constitution or know how to be a true shepherd we recommend you keep quiet … for the sake of Lebanon”.

Muawad demanded that “Amal movement should immediately apologize to the church and to the Christian community” and added : "We reject any attacks against our sacred symbols and against our Christian faith."

Muawad continued : "I wish Speaker Nabih Berri will prove his respect ( he claims he has) for Patriarch Nasrallah Sfeir by opening the doors of the parliament to allow the election of the president…instead of depriving the Christians of their highest post in the country ."

Muawad added: "It seems that speaker Berri has, instead of greeting the Christian community he decided to use blasphemy against the Christians by authorizing Sheikh Masri to attack the Christian faith and its sacred symbols."
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


Syrian paper: Lebanon crises could stretch into spring 2009
Syria’s Alwatan daily has quoted a key member of the Hezbollah -led opposition as saying that the crises in Lebanon could continue unresolved until the parliamentary elections in the spring of 2009.

He blamed the delay of resolving the crises on the government resolution which amended the constitution to enable the election of Lebanon’s army chief General Michel Suleiman. He criticized the decision of the government and said that this will not change the position of the opposition as long as the majority refuses to agree on the type of unity government that will be formed after Suleiman is elected . The Syrian paper did not name the source of its information.

The opposition wants to have a veto power in the new government a demand that the majority have refused to agree to before the election of the president . The majority is leaving any decisions on the makeup of the new government to the new head of state in accordance with the presidential constitutional rights. The majority is stressing that creating preconditions prior to the election will weaken the presidency and undermine the role of the Christian community.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  TOPIX > FREEREPUBLIC - RUSSIA TO SET UP MISSLE DEFENSE SHIELD FOR IRAN. Impervious to the USA?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/28/2007 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  "Russian missile defense shield" and "impervious to USA"...

Bwahahahahaha!
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 12/28/2007 8:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Neither the U.S.A. nor Israel, I suspect. Although the Iranians will fondly believe otherwise, and the Russians will pray they are right, or future sales will evaporate.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/28/2007 17:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Neither the U.S.A. nor Israel, I suspect. Although the Iranians will fondly believe otherwise, and the Russians will pray they are right, or future sales will evaporate. the Iranians don't figure that out until after the check clears and the warranty runs out.

TW, are you OK with that edit?
Posted by: Mike || 12/28/2007 18:06 Comments || Top||

#5  "until after the check clears and the warranty runs out"

I believe those are simultaneous, Mike. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/28/2007 18:38 Comments || Top||

#6  They can't stop our stealth fighters from hitting them, so how can they possibly think they can stop our stealth warheads? Besides, once the linear accelerator is completed on the moon, we won't need missiles OR fighters.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/28/2007 22:11 Comments || Top||

#7  TW, are you OK with that edit?

You edit, I learn, Mike. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/28/2007 22:56 Comments || Top||


Majority hands the Parliament petition on proposed amendment
A delegation of Lebanon’s majority MPs which included Akram Chehayyeb, Antoine Zahra and Ammar Houri handed the petition on the proposed amendment to the Secretary-General of the Council of Deputies Adnan Dahir at 2 PM local time .

Chehayyeb said : "On behalf of the majority we have presented the petition on the amendment of article 49 of the Lebanese constitution to allow the election of the Army Commander Gen. Michel Suleiman as President of the Republic signed by more than 10 MPs . This is an additional proof of the sincere desire of the parliamentary majority of March 14 to save the presidential elections by the election of Gen. Michel Suleiman as the compromise president for all of Lebanon, specially since the country is going through a lot of turmoil."

MP Antoine Zahra said : “I apologize for the absence of MP Walid Eido and MP Antoine Ghanem , two of the colleagues that Akram and I are used to accompany . He added those 2 MPS that were killed by 'wild pigs' will be back one day when Lebanon becomes a truly independent and democratic and free country.”

Eido and Ghanem who were outspoken anti Syrian MPs were assassinated in 2007. Syria ( and not the wild pigs ) was accused of the assassination but it denied any wrongdoing .

The MPs who signed the petition are Eli Aoun, Antoine Zahra, Imad Houri, Mustafa Hashim, Mohammad Qabbani, Serge Torsrkisian, Nabil de Freij, Riyad Rahhal, Jawad Boulos, Henry Helou, Akram Chehayyeb, Atef Majdalani, Ghazi Youssef. The petition urges the parliament to adopt the proposed amendment without any further delay to facilitate the election of General Suleiman and save the country from further turmoil.

MP Ali Bazzi, a member of Speaker Nabih Berri’s bloc predicted Berri will reject the petition, because he considers the government that initiated the proposed amendment to be unconstitutional.

Yesterday Hezbollah parliament bloc leader Mohammad Raad attacked Prime Minister Fouad Siniora's government and accused it of seizing the presidential powers. Raad pledged "new complications" to the already tense situation.

The Lebanese media has also expressed pessimism about Saturday's election session and predicted that it will most probably meet the fate of previous attempts and leave the country without a president until after the new year when the parliament will be in recess. Saturday Dec. 29 is the date set for the election of the president.
Posted by: Fred || 12/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


Home Front: Culture Wars
Former Texas home of Bush family burned by arsonist
A home where President George W. Bush lived as a young boy with his parents in Odessa, Texas, and that is now part of a presidential museum there was damaged on Thursday by a fire that investigators blamed on arson.

"I can tell you it has been determined that it was intentionally set, but I cannot discuss anything about evidence or possible suspects because this is an ongoing criminal investigation," said city of Odessa spokeswoman Andrea Goodson. Goodson said the front door and windows and the attic were badly damaged.

The then 2-year-old Bush lived in the two-bedroom home from September 1948 to April 1949 with his father, former President George Bush, then a trainee for an oil company, and his mother, Barbara Bush. The Bushes had come to Texas from the Northeastern United States after World War Two to get into the oil business. The 800-square-foot (74-square-metre) wooden house was restored in 2004 and moved near the Presidential Museum and Leadership Library on the University of Texas of the Permian Basin campus.

Museum administrator Lettie England said no motive for the blaze had been determined and there was no reason at this point to believe it was a political act.
Other than the fact that we have a few million people with BDS in this country, a few of whom have mouthed off in a blog said they'd be happy to destroy the man and everything he stands for.
She said there were no notes or messages left at the scene. England said in a telephone interview from the west Texas city that the arsonist spread some kind of flammable liquid on the door and front windows and set the fire. [She] vowed to restore the house again because of its historical significance. "When you realize that two presidents and a first lady who is also the mother of a president and two governors all lived in this house at one time, it's important," she said.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/28/2007 00:08 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Does anyone know where Cindy Sheehan was when this happened? But seriously. Plenty of stooges who want to get their names in the paper...

Its not the first time something like this happened. The childhood home of Former 1st Lady Pat Nixon was burnt to the ground by an arsonist.
(Artesia, California) It was never restored.
Posted by: BigEd || 12/28/2007 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  well someone will get their name in the paper all right, too go along with that bigass list f charges they are gonna do time for
Posted by: sinse || 12/28/2007 7:23 Comments || Top||



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