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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Bull Takes Refuge From Butcher in Hospital
A bull escaped from a butcher's knife and took refuge in a hospital emergency ward, interrupting medical procedures for nearly 45 minutes, a news report said Sunday. The big white bull tore away from a butcher as it was about to be slaughtered on a busy city street, and charged up a ramp into the emergency ward of nearby Dhaka Medical College Hospital, the daily Ittefaq newspaper reported. "The bull was running around like crazy, and we were all scared," Shahin Mollah, a witness, was quoted as saying.
Prob'ly not as scared as the bull...
As patients, doctors and nurses screamed and ran in panic, guards chased the animal out of the building and into the hospital's morgue. The frightened animal was then caught and returned to the butcher.
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 19:50 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The big white bull tore away from a butcher as it was about to be slaughtered on a busy city street..."

Slaughtering on a busy city street is apparantly common practice in Bangladesh. Ooookay.
Posted by: Craig || 08/09/2004 21:24 Comments || Top||


Fay Wray dies
(AP) - Fay Wray, who won everlasting fame as the damsel held atop the Empire State Building by the giant ape in the 1933 film classic "King Kong," has died, a close friend said Monday. She was 96. Wray died Sunday at her Manhattan apartment, said Rick McKay, a friend and director of the last film she appeared in. There was no official cause of death
Posted by: Korora || 08/09/2004 5:31:24 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There was no official cause of death

she was 96!!!!
Posted by: spiffo || 08/09/2004 18:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Beauty finally joins the Beast in the afterlife...
Posted by: borgboy || 08/09/2004 18:11 Comments || Top||

#3  hmmm. is em coments counter broke?
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 18:46 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder whether Koko will speak at her funeral?
Posted by: Crusader || 08/09/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||

#5  There was no official cause of death, but she put it off as long as she could.
Posted by: GK || 08/09/2004 19:29 Comments || Top||

#6  While not a widely known fact, Wray actually died of a broken heart.

"No letter, no flowers, not even a phone call from that beast!"
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#7  *Sigh*

A wonderful gift from Canada goes the way of all flesh. She was SO beautiful and talented, it's a shame to compare her to the modern Hollywood anorexics.


Posted by: Ernest Brown || 08/09/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||


Atlantis Found?
Posted by: 2% || 08/09/2004 17:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well this page one material really turns the tide when it comes to fighting terrorism. I should have known that Guinness would turn out to be the legendary elixer of life!
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 17:52 Comments || Top||

#2  That's the most interesting theory I've heard yet - and I've read some of Edgar Cayce's readings on the subject, along with a most interesting book that postulates that Atlantis is actually at the South Pole thanks to the Earth's tendency to occasionally rotate on its axes (or something like that). Then there's the one that says that it's a largely sunken island in the Mediterranean . . . Thera, I think. Although Ireland does have its fair share of old Celtic magic . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 08/09/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Interesting theory, basically saying Atlantis, based in Ireland was the Celtic Empire of the time.

I heard a theory that sounded more logical to me. Crete, prior to Minos and his minitaur had a flourishing civilization that disappeared unexpectedly. I think it was Mt Vesuevious bit I might be wrong. Anyway, volcano causes flood that wipes out Cretian civilization. The theory also seemed to indicate the time because they somehow connected it with Moses crossing the Red Sea (they said Sea of reeds, I know nothing) and that the same explosion, whatever could have done the parting that enabled the Israelites to cross.

Make of the theory what you want, its not mine, and my memory is sketchy, but the guy that wrote it up was pretty convincing. It seems more likely Plato would be talking about ancient Crete than Ireland anyway.
Posted by: Yank || 08/09/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Yank,

Actually it was Santorini that exploded resulting in a collapsed caldera similar to Crater Lake in Oregon. Vesuvius is in Italy close to Naples and is still active today
Posted by: Anonymous4152 || 08/09/2004 18:34 Comments || Top||

#5  I have grave doubts. Plato was claiming to relate events that had taken place 10,000 years before. Tell us the details of fabled Uruk, which was at its prime about half that time ago...
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Or for that matter, London under Good Queen Bess...
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#7  You beat me to it, 4152. It was Santorini.

But I'm sure this "scientist" won't let that stop him.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/09/2004 19:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Yeah, but you need a Zero-point Power Module to get there, and then you can't get back. :-)
Posted by: A Jackson || 08/09/2004 23:08 Comments || Top||


Are You Ready For Some Football!
Joe Gibbs, the former/new head coach of the Washington Redskins who led them to three Super Bowl titles -- and a 1996 inductee into the Hall of Fame -- will return to the NFL on Aug. 9 when he leads the Redskins against the Denver Broncos in the annual Pro Football Hall of Fame Game.
8PM EST tonight, baby! Time to pop open a cold one, or 12.
Posted by: Steve || 08/09/2004 4:36:49 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If only I could make myself believe that Joe can turn the 'Skins around. Sigh...
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/09/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes! (Smuggled) whiskey and coffee in the bleachers, roaring crowds, smacking shoulder pads, amazing athletic grace, speed, power. I'm ready!
Posted by: jules 187 || 08/09/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Football,Football,Football,YeHaaaaaaaa.
Posted by: djohn66 || 08/09/2004 17:23 Comments || Top||

#4  and Madden 2005 for PS2 comes out tomorrow
Posted by: Frank G || 08/09/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Goooooooooooo Chiefs! :)
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 08/09/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#6  go whoever playing the eagles! :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 19:01 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm waiting for college football.

Go Okla. State Pokes!
Posted by: badanov || 08/09/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Ah, phooey. I can't get network television. I've got satellite.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 08/09/2004 21:27 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm glad to see the midwest so well represented tonight so I'll add my "GO WILDCATS".
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 08/09/2004 23:16 Comments || Top||

#10  Bow down to old SC, I say bow down to USC!
Posted by: Lucky || 08/10/2004 2:21 Comments || Top||


Oil well firefighter Red Adair dies
Legendary oil field firefighter Paul "Red" Adair, a fearless Texan who put out massive oil well fires around the globe, including Australia, and who died at the weekend, had been in ill health for several years, his family said. Adair died of natural causes at a Houston hospital at age 89.
The stocky, homespun Adair got his start in the oil fields of southern Texas during the Great Depression and went on to extinguish nearly 3000 oil well fires in more than 50 years of firefighting. Among them were 119 fires in Kuwaiti oil fields at the end of the 1991 Gulf War, the infamous "Devil's Cigarette Lighter" in Algeria in 1962 whose 240-metre flames were seen from space by astronaut John Glenn, the 1979 blowout of Mexico's Ixtoc-1 well in the Bay of Campeche and the 1988 Piper Alpha platform disaster in the North Sea that killed 167 men.
The original "Hellfighter"
Posted by: Steve || 08/09/2004 12:56:34 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My late mother worked for Frontier Oil in Colorado just before WWII, and whenever there was a sticky problem, Frontier would call Adair and he would come up by train from Texas to survey the situation. She remembered that the enginers viewed him as this "young genius" who could fix anything (He was in his 20's at the time).
Posted by: BigEd || 08/09/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Rest in peace, Red!
What a giant of a man who died the USA and Texas proud!
He will be missed and this man wrote the book on fighting oil fires.
Posted by: GreatestJeneration || 08/09/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Folks, this is what you call cheating death.
I expect his last thoughts were the same as Doc Holidays were reputed to be "Damn, they're on"
RIP
Posted by: Shipman || 08/09/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||

#4  A true blood American hero and a gift to the world. Rest in peace, Red Adair.
Posted by: Capt America || 08/09/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Look up "Brass Ones" in the encyclopedia, it should have a picture od this guy.
Posted by: Oldspook || 08/09/2004 21:11 Comments || Top||


Gorilla signs that she has a toothache
Way OT, but I think it is just amazing that there is an actual animal out there we can communicate coherently and consistently with like this!
A gorilla has used sign language to tell her handlers that she had toothache — and has had the tooth extracted. Koko used the American Sign Language gesture for pain and pointed to her mouth, prompting treatment involving 12 specialists, including three dentists. Her handlers said that Koko, a 300-plus-pound ape who has mastered more than 1,000 signs, began telling her handlers at the Gorilla Foundation in Woodside, California, she was in pain. They constructed a pain chart, offering Koko a scale from one to 10. When Koko started pointing to nine or 10 too often, a dental appointment was made.

Twelve specialists — including a Stanford cardiologist, three anaesthetists and three dentists — volunteered to help. The team went to Koko yesterday, taking portable X-ray and ultra-sound machines. They set up shop at her "apartment," which looks like a remodelled box car. After four hours of tests — including a colonoscopy, dental work, X-rays, and ultra-sounds — doctors extracted the tooth, gave her a thorough check-up and pronounced her fit. Koko and Ndume, her partner of 11 years (he doesn't "speak"), have been trying unsuccessfully to have a baby, and the doctors thought the checkup could let them know whether she had any biological problems preventing it. She does not. Her teacher, Francine Patterson, was at her side when the anaesthetist prepared to put her under in the morning, and apparently Koko asked to meet her specialists. They crowded around her, and Koko, who plays favourites, asked one woman wearing red to come closer. The woman handed her a business card, which Koko promptly ate. Otherwise, Koko was calm, Liang said.
Posted by: Dar || 08/09/2004 10:26:12 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cute story! Good going to the Doctors that gave their time. I love the part where she ate the business card of one of the Doctors. I noticed the male partner doesn't speak (at least not in public). I want to go on record here that this is the begining of the 'Planet of the Apes!'
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/09/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Great story, Dar! Lol!
Posted by: .com || 08/09/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I remember writing something about Penny Patterson and Koko for one of my college courses over 25 years ago. So how old is Koko and how long has this study, relationship, been going on?
I looked it up http://www.koko.org/friends/meet_koko.html Over 32 years. Not bad for a four month project. Muck around on the URL. Lot's of interesting stuff there. BTW, Koko had a birthday on July 4, so she's 33 now.
Posted by: GK || 08/09/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#4  poor koko. ima hope she is feel beter. ima wonder what is ever happen her kitty kat.
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Kitty is doing well--take a look at GK's link. There are some pix of Koko and her kitten at her b-day party.
Posted by: Dar || 08/09/2004 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  After the extraction Koko pointed at a photo of John Edwards and made the sign for me + you and you get 40%. Then she was heard to say in a clear voice "It's my leg!"
Posted by: Shipman || 08/09/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#7  good link gk. :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Re #1: General Ursuss at your command! Buglar, sound the advance! Forward to the Forbidden Zone!
Posted by: borgboy || 08/09/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#9  EXCUSE ME???!! They gave a colonoscopy to a gorilla??

"Just relax, Koko, you may feel some discomfort??

What's sign language for "No, YOU will feel some discomfort!"?

Posted by: Mercutio || 08/09/2004 16:04 Comments || Top||

#10  lol!
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#11  When you can comunicate effectively with a socialist, wake me up.
Posted by: badanov || 08/09/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Q: What dentist does a 300-pound gorilla use?
Posted by: mojo || 08/09/2004 18:06 Comments || Top||

#13  Q: What dentist does a 300-pound gorilla use?

A: Whichever one they grab first.

If you think Koko is amazing, check out Alex the African Grey Parrot. This avian Einstein is phenomenal. Greys have long been famed for vocabularies approaching 1,000 words, in some cases. Alex takes it well beyond mimicing and reiterating. An old neighbor of mine was an authority on psitticines and published books about raising parrots and met Alex once.

Dr. Pepperberg currently works with 4 African Grey Parrots. Alex, the oldest, can count, identify objects, shapes, colors and materials, knows the concepts of same and different, and bosses around lab assistants in order to modify his environment!
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 21:00 Comments || Top||


Arabia
US Navy Rescues 12 From Sinking Ship
Twelve sailors were rescued by US naval forces from a sinking ship in the northern Arabian Gulf as the vessel went down late Sunday night. The sailors — who were not identified — were transported to the USS Seattle for treatment. According to sources, they were not seriously injured and were awaiting repatriation. A helicopter and a speedboat were dispatched to the Indonesian-flagged cargo ship, Edha II, from the USS Seattle after the US warship received a distress call at approximately 10:30 p.m. Sunday. According to a statement issued by the US Navy's 5th Fleet yesterday the master of Edha II signaled for help after the ship began taking on water. USS Seattle closed in and launched an SH-60S helicopter to locate the ship. US sailors rescued four crewmembers by helicopter from the deck and eight more from a life raft shortly before the merchant vessel sank. Neither the cause of Edha II's sinking nor the nature of the cargo it was carrying is known.
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 20:18 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's all BusHitlers fault!!!

Oh, wait . . .
Posted by: spiffo || 08/09/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Small Bomb Explodes at Colombian Festival
A small bomb exploded at a crowded flower festival in Colombia's second largest city of Medellin on Sunday, injuring 35 people, the mayor said. Eight children and a police officer were among those injured. The homemade device exploded on a bridge in the city center moments before a parade was to start, Medellin Mayor Sergio Fajardo said. "The festival continued because we are not going to give in to these barbarians and terrorists who destroy lives," he said. No one immediately claimed responsibility for the attack. The bombing came even as security forces were on high alert amid fears that Marxist rebels might try to launch attacks over the weekend, as hardline President Alvaro Uribe celebrated two years in office.
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 19:47 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fugeddaboutit, it was only Richard Pryor lighting up too soon again.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 23:03 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Five Hurt in Japan Nuclear Plant Accident
A steam leak at a Japanese nuclear power plant seriously injured five people Monday, news reports said. The workers at the Mihama Nuclear Power Plant suffered heart and lung failure, Kyodo News Service said without elaborating. The agency said there were believed to be no radiation leaks outside the facility.
That's what they always say, right before the giant fire-breathing lizards show up.
Posted by: Steve || 08/09/2004 8:56:48 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No radiation leaks, merely live steam.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/09/2004 10:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Steam--why does it hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 08/09/2004 10:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Steam accidents are nasty. Fourth degree burns. Inhalation burns.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 08/09/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Four dead now reported, multiple injured
Posted by: Steve || 08/09/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Am I correct in understanding that a true steam leak is for the most part invisible? And that what most laypeople understand to be steam is actually condensation at a temperature below the boiling point?
Posted by: Dar || 08/09/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Dar,

Your understanding is correct. Steam is a gas, but unless it's superheated there will always be some degree of moisture in it, which makes it visible.

Depending on the pressure of the system, leaks can be invisible. On Navy powerplants that are 1200 psig (are there any left?), they hunt down pinhole leaks with a broomstick. On a 600 psig system, you can see the plume.

However, this was probably a ruptured pipe, so it would have been like a hellish sauna. It's a nasty death.
Posted by: dreadnought || 08/09/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Yep. You run the broomstick along the pipe until it falls in half. That's the leak.
Posted by: Anonymous || 08/09/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#8  The broomstick falls in half, not the pipe, just to be clear! High pressure leaks from pinholes make an airjet or waterjet or whatever jet knife. Much better to find the hole with the old broomstick trick than to wave your hand around such a leak and watch your fingers drop to the ground.
My condolences to the families of the casualties.
Posted by: Craig || 08/09/2004 21:19 Comments || Top||


Europe
Greek players test positive
Monday, 9 August, 2004, 10:18 GMT 11:18 UK
Two players on Greece's Olympic baseball team have tested positive for drugs, it was announced on Monday. One "A" sample revealed traces of the steroid stanozolol and the other contained the diuretic substance hydrochloro-thiazide. "We're expecting the 'B' sample to be announced later in the day," said Greece's baseball federation chief Panayiotis Mitsopoulos. The identities of the baseball players have yet to be revealed. "If the positive tests are confirmed, the first player will have to go," said Mitsopoulos. He added: "Of course, this is unfortunate news. But on the other hand it also has a positive side because it shows that Greece will stage clean Olympics." The tests will have embarrassed the Greek-American owner of the Balitmore Orioles Major League team, Peter Angelos, who sponsored a squad made up mostly of Americans of Greek descent. The majority of the players are those who appear in the American minor leagues or who are expatriates living in Greece.
Way to go, jerkwits. Shame your ancestors when the spotlight is on them.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 1:44:49 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OMG- Roids in Baseball???!!! Say it aint so!
/looking at you Bonds, Sosa, McGwire
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 08/09/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Americans of Greek descent?!? WTF? Play for your own damn country, and let the others field their own teams! You want to play for Greece? F*cking move there and change your nationality.
Posted by: BH || 08/09/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#3  There's no Greek baseball at all -- only reason Greece is fielding a team on that sport is the host country's privilege to field a team on *every* sport.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 08/09/2004 15:03 Comments || Top||

#4  So what's the point of fielding a team for a sport that nobody plays? Just because you can? I've just never seen a whole baseball team comprised of pinch-hitters before.
Posted by: BH || 08/09/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#5  I suppose that this isn't the best time to bring up the Armenian bobsledding team.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#6  So Aris, how's your slider?
Posted by: Shipman || 08/09/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Aris can't pitch for this one. He's supposed to be blogging the off the field action for Rantburg.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 08/09/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#8  This is illustrative of widespread steroid abuse in baseball.Remember the 5-7% of MLB players that tested positive for steroids?A couple of points.The major leaguers had plenty of advance warning,so only the stupid or hopelessly addicted tested positive.Second pitchers are not thought to be steroid users,so the 5-7% are from position players.Most 25man rosters have at least 10 pitchers,7% of 15 is @2 players per team,giving an effective rate of @13% of position players caught using steroids.If 13% of your employees were caught using drugs,would you say you had no problem?MLB is.

BTW,US mens basketball team's hopes for gold rest on Tim Duncan,who was not born in US.(Virgin Islands can field teams in international competitions.)Shammond Williams,African-American,plays for Georgia national mens basketball team.MLB wanted to boost international presence by helping field Greek team.
Posted by: Stephen || 08/09/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Given the header, I thought it was an AIDs article...
Posted by: borgboy || 08/09/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||

#10  borgboy: So did I. And Greek baseball sounds like something played in the bathroom of a Georgetown dance club.
Posted by: BH || 08/09/2004 22:16 Comments || Top||

#11  brings new meaning to pitcher and catcher, eh?
Posted by: Frank G || 08/09/2004 22:19 Comments || Top||

#12  brings new meaning to pitcher and catcher, eh?

Keep your mitts offa me!
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 22:34 Comments || Top||


Schröder says no to [WW II] claims
Chancellor wins applause at Warsaw revolt commemoration, criticism at home
By Emma Burrows
A visibly moved Gerhard Schröder won a lot of applause for his speech at the commemoration for the 60th anniversary of the Warsaw uprising against the Nazis last Sunday. But the few catcalls that accompanied the wreath-laying ceremony turned into outrage from special interest groups when the German chancellor returned home. Schröder's speech prompted hefty protests from lobby groups representing the rights of expelled Germans. After recognizing Germany's historic guilt and apologizing for the crimes of the Nazis, the chancellor assured the Polish government that Germany would oppose any demands for compensation made by Germans who were dispelled from Poland after the war. Schröder said, "We Germans know very well who started the war and who were its first victims.
Finally, some straight talk instead of the all-too-common German denial. Schröder deserves a medal.
That's why there must be no more room today for restitution claims from Germany, which would turn history on its head." Responding to threats from lobbying groups to take the issue to the European Court of Human Rights, he added, "The government will oppose such claims and will also make this clear before any international court." Lobby group "Preußische Treuhand" has announced legal action for this autumn. The organization's supervisory board chairman, Rudi Pawelka, said the group would take the matter to Polish and EU courts. His group demands the actual restitution of original property rather than monetary compensation.
Sure this guy isn't a Palestinian?
Pawelka said several hundred of the roughly eight million Germans who were expelled from Poland after World War II want to demand back their expropriated houses and property. He told Berliner Morgenpost that many of these people were ethnic Germans who stayed in Poland and have been Polish citizens for many years. Erika Steinbach, the president of the more moderate lobby group BdV, which has repeatedly distanced itself from "Preußische Treuhand," criticized Schröder for failing to settle the restitution question once and for all. She said the chancellor should have offered a German solution by granting expellees symbolic compensation or forcing them to sue the German government, or a bilateral agreement between Germany and Poland. Instead, Steinbach said, the restitution question now remained open, potentially paving the way for litigation at the European level - with uncertain financial consequences for Germany and Poland.
Better to have called a spade a spade.
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Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 2:20:15 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A little background info: Claims for compensation is probably the only way to recoup one's losses as a result of war or shifted borders. If you want to reclaim your house which now lies on the other side of the border, international law dictates that you must pursue your case in the territory where the house is located. In this case, Germans seeking to reclaim their homes or land, must file a case in Poland. And unfortunately for them, Polish law is quite clear on the matter: you're shit out of luck.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/09/2004 2:54 Comments || Top||

#2 
The resolution of the problem of the Germans expelled after World War Two is a good model for the resolution of the Palestinian problem. In particular, the German government has consistently ignored its refugees' attempts to revive the issue, as we see in this article. A Palestinian goverment should do the same.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 08/09/2004 7:42 Comments || Top||

#3  There was an interesting article in the recent American History magazine about the WWI German saboteurs who destroyed a munitions depot on Black Tom Island, NJ, back in 1916. Reparations were finally acknowledged and paid off by Germany after WWII. I highly recommend the article to the gang here.
Posted by: Dar || 08/09/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||

#4  WWGSD? (or in this case "say")

______What Would General Stroop Do?
Posted by: borgboy || 08/09/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||


Europe's Choice
VDH
"Kerry must win, you see, so we can be friends again." You hear things like this these days in Europe. George Bush's campaign staffers may tease about John Kerry's French connections, his Europhile mannerisms, and his unguarded boasts that the Continent is pulling for him, but such caricatures are closer to the truth than even the Republican operatives suspect.

Europeans casually talk of the Kerry rapprochement to come, as if in their magnanimity they have given us one last chance to return to sobriety. They exude a bold confidence, even to strangers, that the brightened prospects of the Democratic challenger are proof that America has seen the European light and therefore, of course, Mr. Kerry must win. Never has Europe been so emotionally involved in an American election--and never to their peril have they read us so wrong.

Michael Moore is offered up as proof of grassroots American unhappiness with the president. Was he not perched in an exalted seat at the Democratic convention? Completely lost on Europeans is that Mr. Moore, for all his notoriety, is still a cult figure. An icon among the Moveon.org crowd, and when used gingerly a good weapon of the Democratic Party, he is still otherwise a polarizing figure disliked by the majority of America that votes. As the list of cinematic distortions in his recent film grows, "Fahrenheit 9/11" increasingly will be relegated to the genre of crass propaganda once mastered by the far more gifted Leni Riefenstahl in her similarly slanted "political documentary," "Triumph of Will."
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Posted by: tipper || 08/09/2004 2:01:33 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tell you what, we do our business to protect our country and the Euros can fund mosques to stop terrorists, ala Spain and we won't say a word about it.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/09/2004 2:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I wish it was that easy, AP. America's national security is ill served if Europe becomes infested or overrun with Islamists. We have already seen the horrendous damage done by France's sequestering of Khomeini. No further repeats are needed. America needs to concoct some way of disincentivizing Europe's continuing embrace of Islamism and extremists in general. Some weird lingering fascination with facism seems to persist on the continent and we must find out how to quash it.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/09/2004 2:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Not possible Zenster, because it's not a lingering fascination with facism that's driving the Islamization of Europe. It's the failing ponzi-scheme socialism to which they cling that's killing them, specifically the requirement for an ever-larger base of warm bodies to tax to keep benefits flowing to the higher levels of the social food chain.

Europe has a choice: give up their failed socialist policies or destroy their culture via uncontrolled immigration with Muslim North Africa and the Middle East supplying a large portion of the warm bodies. We can't even convince a clear majority of our own people that the socialist path is doomed to failure so I don't believe we have the proverbial snowball's chance in Hell of doing so with Europe.
Posted by: AzCat || 08/09/2004 3:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I am pretty sure it's too late AZ. I try and read the web presence of the Media in "old europe" it's too late for them if I use that metric.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 08/09/2004 4:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Less talked about is that the image of an allied Europe has been shattered here at home.

Exactly. Zenster, it would be better if Europeans could find it within their hearts to see us as friends, but they have a long way to go for some of US to see THEM as friends again. Some of us here are beginning to doubt their "overwhelming sympathy" of 9/11; it looks a lot, in retrospect and given their current hostility to America, like an exercise in altruistic posturing for the cameras. Some of us are recognizing that there isn't any deal too sleazy for them to participate in, or any genocide too horrific that they can't ignore it by just talking about it. Great article.
Posted by: jules 187 || 08/09/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#6  9/11 was "hostility". Most of Europe's stance towards America probably rates as no bigger than mere "annoyance".

People who think that friends must agree on everything, may have difficulty distinguishing between the two concepts.

As a sidenote, a nice map showing governmental positions on Iraq:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Country_positions_Iraq_war.png
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 08/09/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Aris, that map is BS. Since there never was a vote at the UN (before the invasion), you cannot tell which countries opposed the war and which ones didn't. Refusal to send troops cannot be seen as absolute opposition.
Secondly, the fact remains that some countries did not oppose the war perse, because they would have sent troops had there been a UN resolution. That's only a technical matter, and in terms of the moral grounds for supporting the war or not...a rather trivial one.
Posted by: Rafael || 08/09/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8  It's the failing ponzi-scheme socialism to which they cling that's killing them... Europe has a choice: give up their failed socialist policies or destroy their culture via uncontrolled immigration with Muslim North Africa ...

Well said AzC. If Aris is any indicator, they are going to watch their roof leak until it caves in around them.

It's convenient to divert the blame for their problems to American's and Jews, but it doesn't change the fact that Europe is in trouble...unless, of course, you prefer Sharia and Burkas to western society. In that case, their problems aren't a bug, they're a feature.
Posted by: B || 08/09/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#9  I agree that Europeans and American liberals are peas in a pod. But VDH is correct in noting that these don't represent the heart of America.

I've often wondered if one reason why bin Laden, and others in the jihad movement believe that what works in Europe will also work here is because he hung with our educated elite. Thus it makes sense that he would base his strategy on the belief that Americans are like Europeans.

What Europe doesn't understand is that our "elite" is considered weak and ineffectual by the majority of Americans. They are now seen as clueless fops who prize conformity and fashion over science and truth.

They are seen in much the same way we view the Vatican to the practice of Christianity; individuals sequestered away from the realities of the world around them...old, rigid and stale and suffocating.
Posted by: B || 08/09/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Aris, if I feel the need for pontification on the definition of friend, I'll let you know.
Posted by: jules 187 || 08/09/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#11  Even if you don't like Bush this is reason enough to vote for him. The euroweenies need to know that the typical american doesn't care what they think about him.
Posted by: Formerly Dan || 08/09/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

#12  AZ,


It's the same song with a different tune. Bismarck founded the modern welfare state and the Nazis were enthusiastic about promoting state intervention, make-work programs and "Strength through Joy" vacation plans. There is no contradiction between love for fascism and nanny-state interventionism, the historical record shows that the opposite is true.
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 08/09/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#13  Rafael -- I believe that the USA nonetheless called for vocal support to the invasion, even outside the UN mechanism. Thus the various "declarations of support" (like the Vilnius 10) -- and likewise there existed declarations of opposition that again were made outside any official mechanism. I didn't make the map but nonetheless I don't believe it's inaccurate any in detailing the stances of the various governments. If you have a specific example of a mistake let me know.

Formerly Dan> "Even if you don't like Bush this is reason enough to vote for him. The euroweenies need to know that the typical american doesn't care what they think about him."

Yeah, the typical American doesn't care what the euroweenies think and he doesn't care so much that he should change his vote to show just how much he doesn't care.

Cute thing is that you wrote what you wrote without even understanding the innate irony.

B> If Aris is any indicator, they are going to watch their roof leak until it caves in around them.

While the USA are watching their roof leak and so they spend time repairing the couch?

If Aris was any indicator the West would be attacking Syria or Iran and sending troops to turn Darfur defacto independent rather than waste time dealing with the already demolished countries of isolated hasbeen dictators.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 08/09/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#14  Neat map, Aris. I'll put money on the Red Team. Anybody want to back Blue?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 08/09/2004 16:11 Comments || Top||

#15  Aris, It's not your hate for America that is frustrating to read (typical socialist-loving hatred of a mostly free market USA), it is your constant Euro-loving, blind loyalty to a failed & deteriating system. At the rate Old Europe is allowing itself to disappear (birth rates to most of Old Europe's population is below replacement level) the Islam call to prayer will be the sound most heard besides the gun fire in the streets in just a few short decades. I only hope, and it's a faint hope, Old Europe will awake soon from their ruinous socialist nanny-state and understand the dark future that awaits their populations. God be with them! By the way, that is the Biblical God and not the false god Allah!
Posted by: Constitutional Individualist || 08/09/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#16  Constitutional Individualist -- and it's not your hatred of Europe that's tiresome to read, nor your bizarre obsession that I must for some reason hate America (though noone's yet been able to find a single post of antiAmericanism from me) -- it's the way you ludicrously shallow up and then spew back out even the most moronically meaningless propagandistic terms like "Old Europe" and you still seem to think your post still deserves a shred of respect.

And which Biblical god is that, btw? The Biblical trinitarian god of the Christians, or the Biblical God of the Jews which has no children?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 08/09/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#17  "In the begining was the Word..."
Posted by: 2% || 08/09/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#18  bottom line is tha Americans really have never cared what the euors think...which is fine for me since they rush to appease than to to confront. appeasing will get you no where with the jihadis, soddy being a perfect example (and soon to be spain).
as for aris i believe he wants the same goals (taking out terror states like syria and iran) but is frustrated in the fact that euros a cannot achieve them and is unwilling to climb off his ego to admit it is America who can and will.
Posted by: Dan || 08/09/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#19  Unlike Germany and England, Greece has done rather well from membership in the EU. First were all those transfer payments to boost their economy, then the excuse of EU rules to control the wild politics on the homefront. And of course, all those lovely European tourists come to spend their money in the home of the First Democracy. Then too, EU rules are likely no more stifling than their own home-grown version. So, its understandable that a Greek would think well of the institution.

Aris, France's duplicitious behaviour in the Security Council with regard to Iraq goes well beyond mere annoyance, nearing the realm of semi-open warfare. In fact, on reading Jean-Francois Revel's recent work on anti-Americanism, I am forced to conclude that the default European attitude is anti-American, just like for too many it is antisemitic. This does not bode well for the long term relationship between the two continents.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/09/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#20  Europe....piffle. The most of the best left there about 100 years or more ago.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 08/09/2004 22:08 Comments || Top||

#21  "Kerry must win, you see, so we can be friends again." Friends with whom, Chirac, The Germans?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 08/09/2004 22:24 Comments || Top||

#22  I think we should remove all troops from Europe and disengage diplomatically and economically. The world's center of gravity has moved away from Europe and it will soon be one of this planet's backwaters. Let's be civil, but cold, to Europe as a whole. Deal with each country on a case by case basis and only to the extent it benefits the US. Let us never again send 300,000 Americans to die for Europe. Remove Most Favored Nation trade status and only import what there are no substitutes elsewhere (I can't think of any but a few drugs). Let them figure in our policy as much as the Seychelles.

Since I think Muslims in the US will be deported before this religious war is over, I say deport them to Europe. Probably Belgium since they will go majority Muslim first. Let's help the process along by a few years. If Europeans wake up and fix their problems, then good for them. Otherwise, let them become waiters and whores slaves and concubines. They are used to it.
Posted by: ed || 08/09/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||


Ukraine Launches New Atomic Reactor
From the people who gave you Air Ukraine.
Ukraine, the site of the world's worst nuclear accident, launched a new atomic reactor Sunday, and a second reactor is set to open later this year, a news agency reported. President Leonid Kuchma, joined by other top officials, attended the startup of reactor No. 2 at the Khmelnitskyi plant in western Ukraine. Kuchma gave the order to the reactor's staff to "raise the capacity of the .... power unit up to the commercial load," the ITAR-Tass news agency reported. A new reactor at the Rivne nuclear power plant, also in the west, is set to be completed later this year. The European Union pledged to finance safety upgrades at both reactors through an $83 million loan. The money will be in addition to a $42 million program recently approved by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development for the same purpose. Ukraine has committed to modernizing its 13 operating nuclear reactors. The former Soviet republic shuttered Chernobyl, site of the 1986 accident, but is asking Western donors for an additional $350 million to replace a shelter securing the destroyed reactor.
Another reason to check the weather report every day.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/09/2004 1:00:33 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Look! Up in the sky..."
Posted by: mojo || 08/09/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Robert Novak: Kerry's war record
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/09/2004 19:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Review of 'Unfit for Command'.

So who else will be buying this book?

Also, I posted this to Page 2. Can someone please move it there? Thanks.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/09/2004 19:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm buying it. 5 copies as a matter of fact.

Buying a copy for work, and a copy for some of the parishoners at my Church who have asked me and other veterans to explain our vehement opposition to Kerry, and a copy for the VFW to loan out, and a copy for the Legion hall as well.
Posted by: Oldspook || 08/09/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||


Godzilla vs King Kong
John Sutherland of the Guardian - UK (tip o the hat to Drudge):

"It's Godzilla versus King Kong fighting it out in the cesspit of US politics. If you believe Michael Moore's film, Bush was in cahoots with the Bin Laden clan. If you believe the Swiftvets' book, the man who wants to replace Bush is a poltroon - incapable of commanding a small plastic boat, let alone the most powerful nation on the planet as it faces the greatest crisis in its history. As usual in politics everywhere, it will come down to who is telling the truest lies."

You ain't gonna like everything this guy has to say but it's pretty rational reportage from someone a few thousand miles and a couple of countries away.
Posted by: mercutio || 08/09/2004 4:29:37 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Viet record ripples
Mark Steyn
Anti-Kerry ad mars presidential campaign
— Headline in the Melbourne Age of Australia.

"Mars" it? Reminds me of the old war song — World War I, that is, for anyone who can remember any other wars but Vietnam — "If You Were the Only Girl In the World":
"A garden of Eden just made for two
With nothing to mar our joy ... "
That's what the Democrats and their media cheerleaders wanted for John Kerry: a jungle of South Asian Eden, with nothing to mar his joy. All the Massachusetts senator had to do was talk about his four months in Vietnam for two years and somehow tootle along to victory, untroubled and untouchable. Now some guy's marred it, by declaring in this ad that "John Kerry has not been honest" about his time in Vietnam.

Oh, yeah? Sez who? Some neoconservative chickenhawk dilettante National Guardsman?

No. It's an admiral. He also was on a Swift boat in Vietnam, as were the other fellows in the ad, and they're all saying things like "John Kerry betrayed the men and women he served with."

Look, I would rather talk about the war. The current one, I mean — not the one that ended three decades ago. But, insofar as I understand the rules of Campaign 2004, every time any member of the administration says anything about the present conflict, he is accused by Democrats of shamelessly "politicizing" it. Whereas every time John Kerry waxes nostalgic about those fragrant memories of the Mekong Delta, he should be allowed to take his unending stroll down memory lane unmolested. After all, as everyone from John Edwards to Max Cleland to Bill Clinton has assured us, being a Swift boat commander for four months is the indispensable qualification for being president. When Hillary runs in 2008, no doubt she'll be leaning heavily on her four months running a Swift boat up and down the Shatt al-Arab during the Iraq war.

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Posted by: tipper || 08/09/2004 7:07:11 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  john fuckin' kerry is a leech. Just like every other democrat in the U.S., (with few exceptions).
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 08/09/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I think Democrats can sum up the Kerry campaign in one word:

Bummer.
Posted by: B || 08/09/2004 22:02 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Go ahead... Waste some time...
I got the link in my e-mail... There goes another few hours...
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 9:53:46 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Waste some time? Hahahaha. In the woods where I am, that's all I have. Take that, Osama!
Posted by: Dragon Fly (on vacation) || 08/09/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Funny, Fred. Think we can get the animators to do another one and substitute Subway executives for OBL and his gang of thugs? Lady Liberty would love that. "Call me fat will you?" Stomp! Stomp!
Posted by: GK || 08/09/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#3  goddamit! ima kep geting the camels!
>:(
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/09/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
AIDS Bureaucracy Cashes In
Here's the LLL/sKerry mode of [cough] thinking in full swing in the fight to 'cure' AIDS.
The big news on AIDS is that there is no news. After 20 million deaths over 25 years, there should be some news — of a vaccine, of a cure — but there's nothing on the horizon. And in no small part, it's because politics has squeezed out science.

Last month I traveled to Bangkok to cover the 15th World AIDS Conference. Many luminaries — Kofi Annan, Nelson Mandela, CEOs of various pharmaceutical companies, actress Ashley Judd — were there, all talking The Language of Concern and Compassion. But nobody talked seriously about a vaccine or a cure; the phantom of this opera was the prospect of actually eradicating the virus.

Activists blame the U.S. government and the pharmaceutical companies. Uncle Sam, they say, underfunds condom distribution. Given the activists' antipathy to abstinence-eager Texans, it probably won't do much good to point out that the dreaded Bush administration is spending more on condoms than Clinton's ever did. This year, the U.S. Agency for International Development is expected to donate more than 500 million condoms to poor countries around the world.

The "Big Pharma" story is less straightforward. Activists say the drug companies have underfunded R&D. But the truth is that the drug makers have spent tens of billions of dollars on fighting AIDS. Now, however, they are quietly pulling back. Why? Because they no longer see profits ahead. The drug companies are being pressured into basically giving away their existing anti-AIDS meds in Third World countries, home to 95% of the 38 million people infected with the virus.

Even so, they are routinely vilified; the chief of Pfizer, Hank McKinnell, was booed off the stage in Bangkok. If a pharmaceutical company were to come up with an AIDS-smiting "silver bullet," Magic Johnson would gladly pay the sticker price, while everyone else would demand it free. If you're Pfizer, it's hard to make money that way.

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Posted by: Steve White || 08/09/2004 3:25:48 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Debby Group make some wonderful products as well.
Posted by: Super Hose || 08/09/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm pretty much in agreement up until the last sentence on the extended article. "...mutating into newer and more lethal forms."
Not going to happen. HIV is very prone to mutation, even more than flu or the cold virus, however, that does not *increase* lethality, it *decreases* it.
"New" diseases have predicatable life cycles. When they begin, they are terribly deadly, but over time, the deadlier strains are weeded out by not being xmitted as much as the less deadly strains.
150 years ago, syphillis, for example, was a horrific killer, the terror of Europe and most of the world. But over time it weakened until finally an effective treatment came along, which accelerated its weakening. With antibiotics, it just became an annoyance.
HIV has already become a chronic, rather than acute disease in the US; but in the third and fourth world, it is just beginning its cycle. And there, there are disease "multipliers", that both help in its spread and lethality.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/09/2004 17:05 Comments || Top||

#3  the "cocktails" that kept it from being the death notice it once was in the U.S have also led to complacency among the high-risk (i.e.: gay) groups. Lack of an adequate profit motive will ineveitably postpone a vaccine.
Posted by: Frank G || 08/09/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Pakistan and India in danger of locust attack
Posted by: Fred || 08/09/2004 20:05 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They now believe the scientific definition of a plague — a simultaneous large-scale infestation in two regions — could be applicable “within weeks” if the swarms spread to Sudan

Hmmmm . . . a plague of locusts. How biblical.
Posted by: spiffo || 08/09/2004 21:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I have been looking for signs of the predicted locust plague in the upper midwest and have seen nothing. Perhaps I was hasty in therefore thinking we wouldn't get it this year? Doesn't everyone get them?
Posted by: jules 2 || 08/09/2004 21:29 Comments || Top||

#3  I have been looking for signs of the predicted locust plague in the upper midwest and have seen nothing. Perhaps I was hasty in therefore thinking we wouldn't get it this year? Doesn't everyone get them?
Posted by: jules 2 || 08/09/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Yikes! Sorry!
Posted by: jules 2 || 08/09/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Yikes! Sorry!
Posted by: jules 2 || 08/09/2004 21:32 Comments || Top||

#6  I think we should remove all troops from Europe and disengage diplomatically and economically. The world's center of gravity has moved away from Europe and it will soon be one of this planet's backwaters. Let's be civil, but cold, to Europe as a whole. Deal with each country on a case by case basis and only to the extent it benefits the US. Let us never again send 300,000 Americans to die for Europe. Remove Most Favored Nation trade status and only import what there are no substitutes elsewhere (I can't think of any but a few drugs). Let them figure in our policy as much as the Seychelles.

Since I think Muslims in the US will be deported before this religious war is over, I say deport them to Europe. Probably Belgium since they will go majority Muslim first. Let's help the process along by a few years. If Europeans wake up and fix their problems, then good for them. Otherwise, let them become waiters and whores slaves and concubines. They are used to it.
Posted by: ed || 08/09/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||

#7  You two sound like the poster child for Multiple Personality Syndrome.


Think about it.
Posted by: mojo || 08/09/2004 23:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Jules, we got the 17-year cicadas ("locusts" in the Cincinnati area in June, right on schedule. The kids were all looking for the rare blue-eyed ones (very cool looking!!) and the birds were very happy, indeed, totally ignoring the feeders.

Cicadas are nothing like real locusts, which I think are a kind of large grasshopper... swarming when their population rises to a certain point. Cicadas spend a prime number (7, 13, 17) of years as grubs, sucking the juices from tree roots. They come up only to mate, lay eggs, and die. If I understand correctly, they do not eat at all in their adult form.

Nb: locusts are the only insects that are kosher to eat... I assume because when they swarm, there is nothing else.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/10/2004 0:04 Comments || Top||



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