9/11-19 Arabs Spirit Lives in Hamas, Hezbollah & Arabs/Moslems.
Today. on anniversary of 9/11 west should look back and explain its public: Why it happen? Western Zionists mass media is mute of truth.
It was payment for all the killing west does to save Zionist regime in ME.
West is paying for Zionists crimes nonstop since it created racist state. This is the mentality of the average Arab. We should be dictating to these savages rather than communicating with them.
The Name Israel is misleading and has nothing to do with ancient Israel which has existed 2 000 years ego for 200 years or so.
The name Israel intended to put in the mind of naive people seeds that it has something to do with ancient Israel.
ISRAEL WAS CREATED BY WEST TO GET RID Jews from Europe and original Zionists were atheists.
ZioJews crimes are paid by London airports standstill and in the west in the form of security paranoia.
West's terrorism against Arabs/Moslems to save Israeli burning butt created Arabs/Moslem hate and radicalized many on the street. Arab/Moslem "street" are fighting west and own govts; who are complacent with western crimes in Moslem lands.
Pakistanis, Iraqis and now Hezbollah of Lebanon are doing Govts job of defending Moslem lands.
ZIO/West is pushing its luck by killing Arabs/Moslems.
9/11-19 Arabs Spirit Lives in Hezbollah & Arab Patriots.
Zio/Western killings create tremendous hate in Arabs/Moslems and Create respond like in..... England.
Armed with spirit of 9/11 bravery Hezbollah successfully defends Lebanon against ZioJews.
Ted Turner CNN:THOSE BRAVE 19 Arabs of 9/11
Those braves have had immense influence on Arab Patriots.
Iraq doesnt give in to western aggression.
Hamas is resisting Zionist onslaught non stop.
Hezbollah is bravely fought ZioJews army armed with best of western weapons and won. He found one non-Muslim that he likes
Most cultures produce MARTYRS and they cherish them:
Japan's kamikaze,
Russian Alex Matrosov covered German machine gun with his body and many pilots collided with German war plains after using all ammunition, all called heroes..
[ADD: Tamil Tiger Martyrs in Ceylon].
[Chechen martyrs in "Russia"].
Ask Ted Turner (Creator of CNN, stolen from him by ZIONISTS) what he thinks about 19 Arabs on 9/11 attack, I believe he called them THOSE BRAVE 19 Arabs!
Shameless western mass media propaganda will concentrate on anything except the truth: Martyrs are Arab patriots defending their land and natural resources from Zionists and their puppets.
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There is no convincing them any different. That leaves one option.
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Muhhammed knows the evil Zionist's can track this IP address right down to where he's hiding under his bed in his room, right? I mean, say what ya want, but they are pretty smart.
He knows that, right?
I have only a limited grasp of Arabic, but from what I do understand, the admiration for bin Laden and company is widespread. In his "slog" memo, Donald Rumsfeld queried if production level of madrasa robot terrorists exceeds our ability to kill or contain them. My support for escalation - including use of disproportionate retaliation - rests on my answer to Rummy's excellent question.
Jake Tapper at ABC News reported that MoveOn.org paid $65,000 for its full page anti-war advocacy sliming of General David Petraeus. This figure raised the suspicions of attentive blogger Confederate Yankee whose intuition appears to be correct. (h/t Michelle Malkin) While looking up the current New York Times rate book he discovered that MoveOn.org received a $102,000 discount on the standard political advocacy rate that is advertised at $167,157.
For a newspaper that pretends to be objective purveyors of news this discount seems a bit steep for the deep pocketed liberal advocacy group. In fact the amount MoveOn paid is less than any rate listed in the New York Times schedule.
Theres not much to say about the character of the New York Times that hasnt been said already. For a paper that has been paying its investors back with lead weighted returns Id be a little irritated if I had a stake in a venture that puts the subjective political agenda of the editorial staff above the fiduciary duty of the corporation to its investors. Especially considering that MoveOn.org could easily afford the going rate and likely would have run the ad without such a lavish discount. But then again advocacy as a business plan is exactly what the newspaper is about.
When trying to explain how the New York Times Co. managed to shave 50% off the bottom line between 2002 and 2006 some analysts felt that editorial content was not the problem. They looked at other indicators such as poor cost control.
They were wrong in my eyes. The arrogance of the people running the New York Times Co. is a reflection of the paper and its approach to journalism. Id consider this an example of how editorial persuasion reflects much of the back room operations at the newspaper if not the company as a whole.
Yesterday the New York Times Co. reached a simultaneous low while its crown jewel newspaper reached a new low by running a personal attack ad against a war hero. Their stock reflected their standing in the world of character by ending the day with a five year low of $20.72. What a perfectly deserving reflection of the quality of the product coming out of the nations biggest clearing house for advocacy journalism.
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Who cares what the list price is. The value of a single page ad in any newspaper is falling like a rock. The relevant question is how does the $65k rate compare to other one time only ad placements?
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The only way to read the news is to avoid any story with a NY Times byline. The NY Times ranks below the newspaper that used to print stories about the "bat boy" that the FBI was chasing, and about Hillary's alien lover, and about those seven U.S. Senators who were really aliens from outer space. The Washington insiders thought that the newspaper had it wrong and that there were at least 15 aliens in the Senate. At least that newspaper, now defunct, had a sense of style, a sense of what was important, and never pretended to let the facts get in the way of a good story. Perhaps things would improve if the NY Times would stop pretending to be a fact-based paper.
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The New York Times has been dealing with sinking revenues along with every other newspaper in America. The newspaper business has been losing out to the internet, both as a news medium and as a way of passing time. Ad revenues are getting stomped by the internet as well. That's what Google and Yahoo are doing - they're sucking up all the revenues that used to go exclusively to newspapers. If anything, they are more liberal than the New York Times.
Note that the New York Post, which is pretty conservative, hasn't made money in all the years that Murdoch has owned it. The Wall Street Journal, which has a conservative editorial page, has been doing so poorly that it had to be put up for sale. The fact is that the economics of the newspaper business aren't what they used to be, as shareholders and the hapless victims of layoffs are rapidly finding out.
James Taranto, "Best of the Web," Wall Street Journal
Juan Cole, the Arabist historian who is well-regarded on the Angry Left, has a warning for Democrats. . . .
He offers one good bit of advice: "As for Iraq itself, the best hope for the Dems may be that Gen. Petraeus actually succeeds, over the next year, in significantly reducing ethnic tensions." That he should even have to say this speaks volumes about the perverse position the Democrats have created for themselves vis-à-vis Iraq.
We have some better advice for the Democratic presidential candidates:
First, if you don't want to deal with the Iraq problem, don't whine about how "unfair" it is. Instead, don't run for president. Just as we have an all-volunteer military, no one is forced to serve in the White House. The job of the president is to deal with the country's problems, and one of those problems right now is Iraq. If you're not up to it, the presidency is not the job for you. Al Gore, John Kerry and Chuck Hagel have all decided to forgo a presidential run, and there is no dishonor in doing so.
Second, if you do run for president and win, don't retreat from Iraq. Cole acts as if it is a foregone conclusion that the next (Democratic) president will quickly surrender, with results that even he says would be disastrous. In fact, the next president will have the option of acting wisely, and Hillary Clinton at least may even have it in her to do so.
Third, don't promise to act unwisely if elected. The Democratic base wants an American retreat, and the presidential candidates will be tempted to promise it to them. But why set up expectations you can meet only at enormous cost to America's interests?
More generally--and this advice applies to all politicians of both parties--if the interests of your party conflict with the interests of the country, put the country first. (If you believe liberating Iraq was a mistake, think of how this advice might have applied to Democrats like Kerry and Mrs. Clinton who voted for it.) This may lead to the occasional election loss, but in the long run the country will thank you, and your party will be better off. Democrats may well be better off losing in 2008 than winning in the scenario Juan Cole envisions.
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Is Karl Rove's mind-ray machine finally working? I've never heard anything reasonble from Cole, this is really the first time.
Cambridge expert explain why the WTC collapsed so quickly using a scientific model. No word yet from the other expert on structural engineering, Rosie.
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At first, I was of the opinion that we should leave the moonbats in their play-pens, unattended. However, they are making inroads in indoctrination. "Truthers" were filling small meeting rooms; now they fill large halls. Those opposed to the Leftist -Islamo alliance, need to take steps to inform truther-targets that Popular Mechanics and other groups, have studied the theories of the conspiracy theorists, and produced total refutations.
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It's still 9-11 for me here in Silicon Valley. Here's two of the major excerpts:
What was found in an insurgent, an Al-Qaeda affiliated safehouse over in Iraq, they were school blueprints, basically, floor plans for schools across the country. San Diego, California, West Salem, Oregon, Boyertown, Pennsylvania, schools in Texas, Virginia, New Jersey, and this was very, very disconcerting and there was a cover story that was concocted that, hey, this was just some Iraqis who were involved with the Ministry of Education in Iraq and they're looking to rebuild their schools and all that kind of BS.
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There's eight hours of tape that we found in Pakistan in another Al-Qaeda training camp, eight hours of tape where they made a mock American school. The guy, the terrorists came in and they took mock American students, they took one little boy and they shot him in the head immediately and then in English said, "Now follow our directions exactly." It's how to take over an American school. It's eight hours of tape. Only an hour of it has been seen by American law enforcement officials here in America.
An American Beslan x 100. That's what these bastards want. Either we start blasting Pakistani madrassas to hell orif these maggots pull this off in Americathere's going to be a Muslim "kristallnacht" across the United States.
I've lost all patience with Islam. It is the epitome of evil. Plotting the deaths of thousands of young children goes so far beyond the pale as to enter the gates of Hell. In the aftermath of such an atrocity I can only hope that Pakistan would cease to exist. This farce must end.
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You know, I find myself not reading articles if Zenster is the last commenter. He seems to write the same things, day after day, with no new insight or anything interesting to say.
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Okay, I am the last one now, grоmky, if it makes you feel ess reticent... Who knows, it may be important to read it... Especially if you have kids less than 15 yrs old. I am not saying that the scenario presented in the article will necessarily play itself out, but forewarned is forearmed.
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Golly gee. Where have I ever commented on an Islamic plot to murder thousands of American children? Answer: Never. Where have I ever predicted a Muslim "kristallnacht" in America? Answer: Never. Go ahead, search to your heart's content. Sure enough, maybe the same old shit is your whiney crap and not what I post.
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Schools seem to rank high on terrorists list of things to do. That group of seven in Portland, Oregon some years back had plans to attack the two main Jewish schools there but one of them objected so they discarded the idea. Another one of them even said they didn't want to do it unless they could kill at least 200 children or something like that. I don't know if he was setting the goal way out of reach so the rest wouldn't go there or he was trying to prove that he was the better muslim, but they were still talking about it.
Taking out schools accomplishes several goals I suppose, the biggest ones probably being to cow the population and also to start the cycle of ignorance that leads to extremism. That may work great in the developing world, but here in the US it might get the sleeping giant to open an eye and roll over to check things out, complain a bit, and take a swat or two at the problem; only to go back to sleep a year or two later. Again. Heck, some individuals might even get hoppin' mad and kill a few muslims they see walking around, but who cares? And why not take out a school or two? You go to heaven as a martyr and those muslims left behind can fend for themselves, maybe becoming martyrs in the process as well. I dunno, Zen. The MSM would have to get involved on a long-term basis. Maybe even by airing this story and those like it. Or insisting the "footwashers" be removed from airports, or that muslims allow dogs to ride in their cabs without complaining, or some other drastic politically incorrect measures like quick-n-easy surveillance/deportation/incarceration of suspicious parties like those doing weird stuff in airplanes or around transportation/infrastructure centers.
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I went to Boyertown Area Senior High School in the 1980's!! It rocks my world to see it mentioned in the article. Boyertown, while large, is the only HS in a very large district -- it's kind of a "back water". It's grown since I was a kid. But it's the type of place where a bearded or hijabed muslim would really stand out!
Now I live, and school my children, in Falls Church VA -- the epicenter of political-terrorist "mainstream" islam in the US. There are stretches of Route 7 here where you're suprised NOT to see a hijab!
BTW -- I'm a Zen fan. One of the few who seem as frustrated as me.
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If I commented often, I would sound like Zenster also (without the Thesaurus). I am frustrated like Z and Capt'n Lewis. ROPMA. I'm sick and tired of hearing the PC platitudes. Perhaps an American Beslan will wake up the sheeple here that we face more than one existential threats.
I blame the right because they should know better. This is just who the left are: when a dog urinates on a fire hydrant, he doesn't commit vandalism, he just being a dog.
#9
Only about 10% of my comments are ever actually posted. I'm afraid of getting sink trapped. Words can't really express the frustration, anger and desire to destroy what I see externally and internally as the greatest threat to the US: Demonrats + followers of allen. So I refrain except on rare occasions just to avoid ending up moderated:)
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Bin Laden has said what we did in Russia, we will visit 100 times worse in America. He's even gotten a religious edict allowing him to kill up to two million American children and what they are looking for is a school where the girls are old enough to rape and the boys are too small to fight back.
Every word of that sentence is true and yet we do nothing to preempt what is coming. We watched it happen at Beslan and the world blamed... the Russians. The world will blame us too. The "left" will blame us. Oprah will ask us to "understand"; as if there was anything left to understand about the rape-cult.
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Your point, DG? No sane person wants another Beslan, but do you disagree that this country is asleep? Our willful denial will bring the atrocities upon us.
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Schools are easy targets, even maladjusted suicidal children with access to guns have discovered that. If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans. Some will continue to blame Bush but the rest will go berserk.
Of course I could be wrong, I thought Beslan was gonna convice the Russians to stop playing footsy with Islamists.
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Maybe an 'American Beslan' would provide us with the resolve and momentum we need to take care of the muslim problem on a much wider scale. God forbid that it should happen, but in one sense, if it causes our nation to accept the fact that islam is the problem, and not terrorism, it could prove beneficial in the long run.
Unfortunately, history is replete with examples of nations needing to be pushed to the brink before they finally decide to wake up and take decisive action to preserve their way of life.
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"If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans."
Gee, talk about being pathetically naive...!
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Things will be the same on the left if America is attacked in this way. We deserved it. Bush's fault. Root causes. Understanding and fucking kumbiah.
It will push the fence sitters that want terrorists killed, but not the hate cult rooted out into full "let's defeat these assholes once and for all" mode. I would fully expect to see people retaliate against any Muzzies here.
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Geez, ya think so? Even with people like this leading us...
BOSTON Gov. Deval L. Patrick urged families mourning losses from the Sept. 11 attacks to open their hearts in an effort to move on from the day six years ago when two Boston-based flights slammed into the World Trade Center.
Ragged clouds hung around the golden dome of the Statehouse as family members watched the flag rise in memory of the victims on the sixth anniversary of the attacks.
"It was a mean and nasty and bitter attack," Patrick said. "But it was also a failure of human beings to understand each other and to learn to love."
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I dunno, Zen. The MSM would have to get involved on a long-term basis. Maybe even by airing this story and those like it. Or insisting the "footwashers" be removed from airports, or that muslims allow dogs to ride in their cabs without complaining, or some other drastic politically incorrect measures like quick-n-easy surveillance/deportation/incarceration of suspicious parties like those doing weird stuff in airplanes or around transportation/infrastructure centers.
Works for me, gorb. I just hope like hell it doesn't require this sort of insanity to activate America's citizens. The mental scar of so many parents losing their children would leave a rent in our social fabric that would take yearsif not decadesto heal. What greater example do we need of Islam's incredible inhumanity?
Captain Lewis, SR-71, Brett, Excalibur and so many others, please know that I genuinely appreciate your support. As I noted, it was still 9-11 for me in Silicon Valley when I read this article. It really hit home just how evil the Muslim mind can be. I'll leave it at that.
Captain Lewis, I also would like to mention how you were one of the only others here who had the courage to mention how Bush's fundamentalism and sense of religiosity was a likely cause of his blindness to Islam's vile agenda.
I have taken repeated brickbats at Rantburg for positing this connection. Much to my astonishment, others who have posted the exact same conclusionlike yourselfhave gotten a totally free pass. I'm hoping that due to your observations and similar ones by others, this idea may finally have gained some traction here. Personally, I find very few other ways of explaining why Bush continues to spew the Religion of Peace [spit] meme. I certainly refuse to believe Bush is so corrupt that his conflicting ties with Saudi Arabia oblige him to intentionally mislead America on this count.
Our willful denial will bring the atrocities upon us.
SR-71, this remains one of the most deeply disturbing aspects of all. It is why I continue to hold Bush accountable for misleading the American public about Islam's core doctrine of violence and global domination.
Just as in no way can I ever believe that America "deserved" the 9-11 atrocity, neither can I agree that we "need" an even more devastating attack to awaken our country to Islam's threat. My belief in this has caused me to begin considering that the majority of America's political body constitute a Traitor Elite. Be it through their pursuit of Multiculturalism or its handmaidenPolitical CorrectnessAmerica's body politic appears to have foresaken its sworn duty to "Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States".
Confronted with an enemy already lodged upon our shores whose avowed goal is the destruction of American constitutional law, we are greeted with mealy-mouthed blandishments and intentional underassessments of this threat. It is the solemn duty of our elected leadership to make America aware of each new enemy to its welfare. Almost across the board this vital obligation has been actively neglected by our politicians.
We do not need another more hideous atrocity to awaken America. We need moral and ethical leadership that is willing to communicate clearly the nature of what assails our nation's integrity. Such a message cannot be forthcoming from those who have intentionally opted to undermine America's strength through their misguided or malign liberalism, financial corruption or mixed allegiance and tainted loyalty.
This is the real problem and any renewed assaults upon American soil are the direct responsibility of our elected politicians who refuse to act coherently against this threat.
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"It was a mean and nasty and bitter attack," Patrick said. "But it was also a failure of human beings to understand each other and to learn to love."
Eff almighty, tu3031, thank you for proving my point in spades.
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"Bush's fundamentalism and sense of religiosity was a likely cause of his blindness to Islam's vile agenda."
The problem with this conclusion, Zen, is that an OVERWHELMING majority of fundamentalists understand the threat from Islamostalinism, and would be in favor of a much more Western type response than W has been. It must therefore be deduced that it is something other than fundamentalism that informs W's policies.
Other than that, everything else in your post is spot on.
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DG: Yeah right SR-71. And perhaps my grandmother needs to bust her hip so she doesnt fall down the stairs and really hurts herself.
I think SR-71 is saying that he hopes they do something like Beslan before they get round to exploding a few nukes stateside. A Beslan would be a wake-up call so that we will take the measures necessary to prevent a terrorist nuclear attack.
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I don't wish for dire events, but even the most casual look around our nation reveals that our leadership and our people have turned a blind eye to the threat Islam poises. Bush, for whatever reason, continues to pretend that the garden-variety of Islam isn't interested in world supremacy. The left willfully ignores the horrific human rights abuses that occur daily in Islamic countries. The right and the left have combined to convince each other that either no real threat exists or that whatever threat is present can be "managed" rather than eradicated.
It will be a sad day indeed when the next 9-11-scale event occurs--it will be then that those with the right kind of eyes will recognize just exactly what the cost was of virtually ignoring Islam in the years that have intervened since the original 9/11 took place.
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There was a, BBC produced, Beslan documentary on last night, that was solely constructed around the thoughts, reflections and observations of the children that survived that particular 'day of infamy'. I reflect on what I saw and heard last night and then reflect on what Zen says and find it very hard to undestand how anyone can nit pick and find fault.
They are out there. They want to hurt us. Killing our children will hurt us and will bring them joy. I don't really care to much anymore about PCism, the niceties of political discourse or how our actions might effect the price of oil.
If the price I have to pay for the Saudi's being forced to 'deal' with the fanatics that they are incubating around the world, is riding a bike to work, so be it.
If putting Hezbollah out of business means landing an expeditionary force in Iran and igniting a full blown mid-eastern conflict, so be it.
If ending my fear, anger and loathing of what has been done throughout the civilized world by these purveyors of Islamic truth means that being Muslim means living in fear of me, the West or any other entity, so be it.
I want them so afraid for THEIR homes, families, children, places of worship, culture, future and place in the course of history that they would cringe at the thought of every harming anyone ever again.
Worked with Japan!!!!!
Sean Connery to Kevin Costner in the "Untouchables". "If they bring a knife, you bring a gun. If they put one of your's in the hospital, you put one of their's in the morgue." AMEN
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#17 "If a school is attacked by Al Queda, even Ward Churchill can't claim schoolchildren are little Eichmans."
Gee, talk about being pathetically naive...!
Okay, perhaps he'd call them very little Eichmans.
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Oh for Christ's sake. The whole point of "Rantburg" is to get it off your chest. If anyone out there does not, at one time or another, just want to nuke the F*&K out the all things Islam then your not paying attention or involved. It does not mean any rational person would actually pull that trigger, but venting the frustrationis exactly what this site is all about! Zen says what we all feel at one time or another.
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I think rantburg is the right place to vent, but I also find both interest and supportive commentary, amusing andd scathing comments, and a relief from the mind-numbing business of looking at this stuff all day, everyday, and wondering what they are really going to do versus all the blah-blah.....
I find Zenster very singularly focused on topics I think are important and agree much more often than disagree with his comments.
And that part about no rational being actually wanting to pull the trigger...... hmmmmmm
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My $0.02: I hold with the ann coulter/zenster convert or deport or die treatment. That is for the muzzies here. Overseas, Convert or get herded into resevations. Or die. FWIW. I'm notvery handy with the thesaurus, and I do not want to sound like a broken record either.
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It must therefore be deduced that it is something other than fundamentalism that informs W's policies.
I'd dearly like to know what it is then becausewhatever this purblind trait isit needs to become a disqualifying criteria when considering all future candidates for the Presidency. no mo uro, or anyone else for that matter, any suggestions or theories about this?
I want them so afraid for THEIR homes, families, children, places of worship, culture, future and place in the course of history that they would cringe at the thought of every harming anyone ever again.
Spot on, Total War. Muslims must be made to be absolutely panic-stricken by the certain knowledge that each new terrorist atrocity will bring a rain of death and destruction upon some portion of the ummah. The fear felt by them must be so intense that they finally overcome all reluctance and begin lynching every single one of their jihadis and radical imams.
Only by inspiring Islam to clean its own house will Muslims have any chance of avoiding a holocaust of their own. Currently, all of us are being treated to the sordid spectacle of America attempting to clean Islam's house for them. Words cannot remotely express both the immense folly and incredible danger that such profound naiveté represents.
If anyone out there does not, at one time or another, just want to nuke the F*&K out the all things Islam then your not paying attention or involved.
Thank you, 49 Pan. I'm rapidly approaching that exact pole. While not totally overjoyed about having such extreme feelings, neither am I ashamed of them. Too much is at stake to not experience some serious frustration and wrath over Islam's monstrous crimes against humanity.
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"I'd dearly like to know what it is then becausewhatever this purblind trait isit needs to become a disqualifying criteria when considering all future candidates for the Presidency. no mo uro, or anyone else for that matter, any suggestions or theories about this?"
I cannot say for sure.
Could be a sort of patrician, old-school internationalist thing that is present in wealthy families of old money like his. There certainly seems to be enough of that going around in those circles - based on my (limited)interactions with people like that, I would guess that that's a majority thing among them, but if there's data to prove me wrong, I'll retract that notion.
To take that one step further, it could be that he honestly believes that simply having boots on the ground in that region is enough, and that osmosis over a few decades will get the job done, much as the Cold War eventually did in the more severe forms of Communism. Horribly naive, IMO, since the two enemies are decidedly different and will therefore require different tactics to defeat. But it fits with his personality as I see it (again, I could be way off on that).
There is some data to support these conclusions. Look at W's record in fighting the other enemy in the three-way-war. If you remember back before 9/11, the whole business of the "new tone" and the compromises on education pork etc. His approach was considerably less than "take no prisoners" when dealing with the left. You couldn't call him a lefty, or say that he was really a softy. But he was not strident in battling them from the bully pulpit, either.
Many folks here on the 'burg - not a huge site by any stretch - have been able to articulate the threat of radical Islam not in a ham-handed or thuggish way, but in concise and dispassionate terms. Not everyone agrees on the exact verbiage to describe the threat (you tend towards one end, but other folks are a bit less direct), or the precise solution, but I've read literally dozens of various ways of expressing concern about the danger of an out of control Islam. Dozens. W and his speechwriters have dropped shells all around this target but only managed to hit it a few times.
And there it is, Zen, W's biggest problem is his inability to communicate effectively. I think he's good on most (DEFINITELY not all) issues from a philosophical standpoint but inept as hell when it comes to effectively articulating ideas to win over people.
The "purblind trait" to become a disqualifier for president may not be so much one's religious zeal, as it is taking notions from the frontal cortex to the microphone and camera. Had W gone upside Islam's head six years ago, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It seemed he wanted to. But he just couldn't get the words out.*
*Noting complicity of the MSM here.
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Whack the Saudi Royals, take custody of the oil...ALL the oil in ALL Mohammedan lands. STOMP the entire MME into matchsticks, nothing higher than 18 inches.
Grind their holy places and Mosques into powder and scatter them, force them to renounce Islam or die. Hold their culture and their people hostage for 10 generations. Whatever it takes to crush Islam.
Deportation, Internment or outright Slaughter, I don't care anymore. Our so-called leaders, political elites, they must think this is some grand game. They need to be dealt with too. Since I first became politically aware around the age of 14 - 15, I have watched this country slide into the cesspool of Leftism, for nearly 40 years.
It makes me sick. I do not even recognize my own country anymore. The neighborhood I grew up in, and the schools I attended are war zones now...barrio's. One single family home after another packed with illegals. It is past time to spit on our hands, raise the black flag and start lopping off heads.
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Zen:
No Mo Uro summed up my theory on Bush's lack of calling a spade a spade in #34. I don't believe one iota it has anything to do with his personal belief system, as other have noted there are TONS of us Fundamentalists out here that DO recognize the evil Islam itself represents and the threat it represents to America (not to mention, many preachers calling for even more drastic measure to "git her done" in the MME now!). Heck, Jerry Falwell was calling for all-out war. Pat Robertson (a nutcase in his own right) was calling for assassinating Ahmadinijad. Trust me, the "religious right" sees this war in the same light the muzzies do, a HOLY war!
Otherwise, I think it's naivete on Bush's part (actaully, in reality, if you just consider those who carry out attacks as "violent", then Islam is fairly peaceful; but we know better...there's a whole war machine behind the "grunts" that are arming, preaching, financing and pushing the jihadis into this war). Naivete, mixed with some mealy-mouthed, inside the beltway POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. Not that I agree with his statements, but I do understand WHY he says what he says.
And, trust me, I've discussed this with several die-hard Democrats who have kids, and we ALL say, "If they pull off (or even try) a Beslan type attack here, there WILL be hell to pay on any remaining Muslims in the U.S." Of course, I had to inform them of what the real Beslan attack was about, but afterwards, they all feel the response should be the same as I do....total war.
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09/12/2007 22:03 Comments ||
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Oops, meant to add, I pretty much usually agree with what Zen says too.
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09/12/2007 22:04 Comments ||
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It does not mean any rational person would actually pull that trigger, but venting the frustration is exactly what this site is all about! Zen says what we all feel at one time or another.
49P, it's that the constantly loudest voices are those who never have had to do, or will have do, the heavy lifting.
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no mo uro and BA, thank you for sincere and well-thought out replies. Definitely food for thought.
SR-71, you are very mistaken to think I hate all fundamentalists. What I despise is the hidebound and calcified mindset it too often engenders.
Pappy, if the military would take someone of my age, I would enlist right now. I've spent most of my life making contributions to America's technological success, much of it with military applications like SDI, Stealth and Laser Gyros, etc. I've also paid some pretty hefty dues riding the economic rollercoaster of Silicon Valley's economy. So, don't think I haven't made any sacrifices. I have also done my part in changing the way people think about Islam and the Global War on Terror. If that doesn't qualify as "heavy lifting", so be it. I happen to be very happy with my contributions, especially considering that I've made them armed with only a high school diploma.
#1
True. I have a couple of Cold War era Novosti Press
Agency pamphlets in which Soviet propagandists stress alleged "progressive" aspect of Islam. It is a fact that the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, ended Communist alliances with Arabs, and the Islamofascists entered the hate-breach. We HAD to contain Soviet expansionism because they had nuclear retaliation capacity; we don't HAVE to contain the Islamofascists. It is catastrophic to respect their beliefs under the freedom of conscience rubric. Islamofascism is unconscionable.
#2
The greatest help were by capitalists paying for the oil they discovered and extracted. Stalin didn't one damn ruble when he invaded oil rich Iranian Azerbaijan.
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09/12/2007 14:59 Comments ||
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September 11, 2007
HOprah Watch: Today, Oprah Exploits the Children of 9/11 The use of "HOprah" is rude, worthy of Don Imus.
By Debbie Schlussel
**** UPDATE #2: BINGO! HOprah talks about "forgivenes" with one of the 9/11 kids. Don't say I didn't tell you so. She's so predictable. ****
**** UPDATE: Forgot to mention, but I bet HOprah continues in her tradition of not mentioning that the terrorists were Muslim. ****
Today, on her nationally syndicated daytime talk show, Oprah Winfrey will feature - actually, exploit - the children of 9/11 victims. It's beyond tacky. It's inappropriate. These kids shouldn't be watching her show . . . and they certainly shouldn't be on it.
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#1
I recall the scientific study that showed increasing self esteem, was just making people (more) delusional about themselves. Making Muslims more self delusional (than they already) doesn't seem like a good idea.
#2
Scenario #1: Muslim chops off head of non-Muslim.
Muslim population response: "It was his religious duty, he is now revered."
Scenario #2: Black robs and murders a non-black.
Black population response: "He had it coming to him 'cuz we been oppressed and enslaved and all."
Scenario #3: Whites kidnap and sexually abuse black woman.
White population response: "These cretins are a disgusting representation of us and should be removed from the gene pool. Quickly, but painfully."
#5
If she were an ordinary citizen doing this in the privacy of her own little life, she'd be merely a symptom. But she's not: she's a nationally prominent member of an elite liberal clique whose mission is to train Americans to be weak, needy and stupid.
She most definitely is part of the cause.
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09/12/2007 9:13 Comments ||
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#6
This idiot is starting to show her true colors. She strongly supports Hussein Obama. Nuff said for flop ears.
#9
We are sometimes a pretty pathetic and naive people to have given this village idiot all the exposure and financial resources so she can feel so damn invulnerable to create the comfort zone of wishy-washy humanism. I hope Obama ends up on the dust floor of political oblvion and takes her down with him.
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It is up to God to forgive them. Our duty is to kill them.
Exactly Right, Excalibur.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."
#11
For the past two years I've emailed Oprah more than a dozen times requesting that she bring Ayan Hirsi Ali onto her program and to alot the entire hour for an interview. Hiris Ali has yet to be invited onto the program as a quest.
In the past twelve months I've emailed Oprah no less than six times requesting that she bring Walfa Sultan onto her program and to interview her for the entire program. To date, Sultan has not been invited to be a guest.
One might think that women such as Hirsi Ali and Walfa Sultan would be sought after guests on a program such as Oprah's since both are self -made women in the mold of Oprah. One would be wrong to think so.
Call me naive when I wrote the emails, but I'm thinking either (both) women would make for an eye-opening and intersting interview with Oprah's target audience.
I can only conclude that neither Ali or Sultan, in the opinion of Oprah's gatekeepers, think these women have a message worth sharing with their political base or the audience Oprah panders to.
That's unfortunate.
But for the interent it is very difficult to spread the word on the enemy.
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#12
I Hirsi Ali, Walfa Sulfan, and other articulate women are anti-jihadis. Unfortunately, we are few.
The un-indicted co-conspirators - CAIR/ISNA - are far more powerful than Anti-Jihadists. Yesterday was a good day to sum up the record of exposure of the hidden Muslim agenda: global Islamization. Most people who I attempt to educate about doctrinal aggression in Islam respond: that's what Hitler said of the Jews. And the Muslims that they meet are outwardly intemperate. It is hard to convince multi-cultist indoctrinates that a minority people in the West is using democratic liberties for the purpose of overthrowing them.
#13
Raising self esteem comes from doing something for which you are proud. If Muslims do good, then they will be proud of their efforts and their self esteem will be raised. Hearing a television show host say, "Be a good boy now" is not going to do it.
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