Iraqi Arizona police are looking for an Iraqi man who they allege ran down his daughter and her friend because he believed his daughter had become "too Westernized."
Peoria, Arizona, police said Wednesday that Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48, struck his 20-year-old daughter, Noor Faleh Almaleki, and her friend Amal Edan Khalaf with a vehicle he was driving in a parking lot Tuesday afternoon.
Faleh Hassan Almaleki was angry with his daughter "as she had become too 'Westernized' and was not living according to [the family's] traditional Iraq[i] values," Peoria police said in a statement released Wednesday. Sure. They'll assimilate. You can bet your life on it.
Noor Faleh Almaleki is hospitalized with life-threatening injuries, according to the statement. Khalaf, 43, received injuries that are not life-threatening but is still in the hospital, police said.
Noor Faleh Almaleki lives with Khalaf, police said but did not elaborate on how the two women knew each other.
Faleh Hassan Almaleki was last seen bravely running away in a gray or silver Jeep Grand Cherokee, police said.
No further details were immediately available. Nor necessary. Hope you enjoy your new life, Khalaf. I especially wonder how your opinion about what you've done will devolve as you grow up. Your own daughter. Pr!ck.
Peoria is about 13 miles northwest of Phoenix. Which is about 7000 miles west of Iraq. Where Khalaf should have been living if he was such a devout muslim Iraqi.
Khalaf, if you're listening, you should know that your Jeep will run out of gas long before you get home.
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On the plus side, Peoria is in Maricopa County, which means that when this individual is taken up, he will be under the tender care of Joe Arpaio. So, I hope he likes green (indeterminate meat) bologna and trail mix, which he can eat while wearing his pink underwear.
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Isn't driving a car 'too westernized' particularly a Jeep Grand Cherokee? Maybe he should at least be more devout and use another non-western model.
An ice-skating bear with a visiting Russian circus turned on its trainers on Wednesday, killing the circus director and seriously wounding another man during a rehearsal in the Central Asian country of Kyrgyzstan.
Kurmangazy Isanayev, the director of the arena in the Kyrgyz capital of Bishkek, said workers with the visiting Russian troupe managed to drag the two men away from the bear and closed the exits until rescue workers arrived.
Police shot the bear dead, Isanayev said.
The circus's 25-year-old director, Dmitry Potapov, was reportedly dragged across the ice rink during the rehearsal by the bear before a 29-year-old employee attempted a rescue and was also seriously hurt, according to reports from news agencies RIA Novosti and Agence-France Presse.
The incident was not the first time a visiting Russian bear has been involved in a deadly attack in Kyrgyzstan. In 2002 a bear on loan to the Bishkek city zoo attacked and killed a small child who had reached out to pet it. The animal's aggressive behaviour in that incident was blamed on malnourishment.
"Finally! A snack!"
Bears trained to perform on ice skates have been a staple of Russian circus troupes, with some, in a standard stunt, also equipped with hockey equipment, including helmets and sticks.
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(Cue Boo-Boo):
"Gee Yogi, I don't think the Ranger is gonna like that."
Yogi:" I'll do the thinkin' around here, Boo-Boo, and dooonn' you forrr-get it..."
The eco-pawprint of a pet dog is twice that of a 4.6-litre Land Cruiser driven 10,000 kilometres a year, researchers have found. Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living, say pet owners should swap cats and dogs for creatures they can eat, such as chickens or rabbits, in their provocative new book Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living. Lassie, the other white meat
The couple have assessed the carbon emissions created bypopular pets, taking into account the ingredients of pet food and the land needed to create them.
"If you have a German shepherd or similar-sized dog, for example, its impact every year is exactly the same as driving a large car around," Brenda Vale said. "A lot of people worry about having SUVs but they don't worry about having Alsatians and what we are saying is, well, maybe you should be because the environmental impact ... is comparable."
In a study published in New Scientist, they calculated a medium dog eats 164 kilograms of meat and 95kg of cereals every year. It takes 43.3 square metres of land to produce 1kg of chicken a year. This means it takes 0.84 hectares to feed Fido. They compared this with the footprint of a Toyota Land Cruiser, driven 10,000km a year, which uses 55.1 gigajoules (the energy used to build and fuel it). One hectare of land can produce 135 gigajoules a year, which means the vehicle's eco-footprint is 0.41ha -- less than half of the dog's.
They found cats have an eco-footprint of 0.15ha -- slightly less than a Volkswagen Golf. Hamsters have a footprint of 0.014ha -- keeping two of them is equivalent to owning a plasma TV.
Professor Vale says the title of the book is meant to shock, but the couple, who do not have a cat or dog, believe the reintroduction of non-carnivorous pets into urban areas would help slow down global warming. "The title of the book is a little bit of a shock tactic, I think, but though we are not advocating eating anyone's pet cat or dog there is certainly some truth in the fact that if we have edible pets like chickens for their eggs and meat, and rabbits and pigs, we will be compensating for the impact of other things on our environment."
Professor Vale took her message to Wellington City Council last year, but councillors said banning traditional pets or letting people keep food animals in their homes were not acceptable options. For now ...
Kelly Jeffery, a Paraparaumu german shepherd breederwho once owned a large SUV, said eliminating traditional pets was "over the top". "I think we need animals because they are a positive in our society. We can all make little changes to reduce carbon footprints but without pointing the finger at pets, which are part of family networks."
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Just getting people used to the idea of doing insane things for the cause of global warming. I'd say it's coming along nicely if they're suggesting treating man's best friend as livestock.
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Most mammals share a gene called FOX2P, but only humans have a mutation of the gene that greatly enhances the ability to talk. When this gene was transplanted into mice, they became very "chatty" and their vocal range increased considerably.
This gene needs to be put into dogs. It is believed that smarter dogs can understand as many as 300 human words, and if dogs could express even a dozen words, not only would those dogs be worth a fortune, but anti-dog eco-nuts might as well propose killing autistic children.
Seriously, right now, there are lots of dog owners who would kill someone who tried to kill their dog, in a bloody eyed rage. If dogs could speak, even a little bit, lots of dog owners would go to war against eco-nuts if they threatened their dogs.
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I'm surprised these idiots didn't advocate eating their fellow humans since the carbon footprint is large. We got a bunch of eco-morons running around on this planet.
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Sounds like JohnQC is saying the canabilism is green. I believe he's right, given the insane, make-them-up-as-you-go-along rules those folks go by. Eat your mama. Eat your papa. Eat all your other littlr nestlings. Then submit to the knife and fork of some other Greenie. Sure would take care of the population problem. And I promise not to miss you a bit. How's that for following the rules?
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TWENTY-five years after Ethiopia's famine killed a million people and spurred a massive global aid effort, the government has appealed for help for more than six million facing starvation.
State Minister for Agriculture Mitiku Kassa said the country needed 159,000 tonnes of food aid worth $121 million between now and year's end for 6.2 million people. He said nearly 80,000 children under five were suffering from acute malnutrition and that $US9 million ($9.68 million) was required for moderately malnourished children and women.
"Since... January, the country continues to face several humanitarian challenges in food and livelihood security, health, nutrition, and in water and sanitation," Mr Mitiku told donors.
In a report to mark the 25th anniversary since the famine, Oxfam called for a change of strategy towards the human suffering in Ethiopia, Africa's second most populous country after Nigeria. It urged donors to focus on helping communities devise ways of preparing and dealing with disasters such as building dams to collect rain water to be used during dry seasons rather that sending emergency relief.
The long-term strategies receive less than one per cent of international aid, Oxfam said.
"Sending food aid does save lives, the dominance of this approach fails to offer long-term solutions which would break these cyclical and chronic crises," stated the report: Band Aids and Beyond.
"We cannot make the rains come, but there is much more that we can do to break the cycle of drought-driven disaster in Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa," Oxfam director Penny Laurence said. "Food aid offers temporary relief and has kept people alive in countless situations, but does not tackle the underlying causes that continue to make people vulnerable to disaster year-after-year."
Of $US3.2 billion ($3.44 billion) of US aid to Ethiopia since 1991, 94 per cent is food which is delivered there rather than grown locally or imported from the region, said the aid group.
2) growing food locally is a great idea. Zimbabwe used to do that. They don't anymore. Why is that?
Ditto other countries on the continent. The land is fertile. The people are industrious. They work hard (a third world person who doesn't work hard dies). They have technical knowledge or they can acquire it. Capital outlays for basic farming can be modest and can be within their means, or with but modest help from the West.
So why isn't the continent self sufficient?
I think I know why. Does Oxfam have the courage to say why?
That's why. Until you fix those, all the food aid in the world won't matter.
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The whole truth of the matter is that "Work or Die" hasn't worked for generations, Welfare has kept the non-producers alive to multiply disastrously, My Grandmother had her own well, Garden, pecan trees, a Mulberry tree, a peach tree (Bartlett) and a small garden,three cows and one horse, Electricity and a dishwasher and well pump, (Which she kept turned off, she said she'd rather draw water, it kept her strong) she lived well if not financially wealthy by avoiding things that drained her wallet, such as Water bills, Large power bills and although she had a small pickup truck she drove little, just to church and the grocery store, She taught me how to can and preserve foods, and basic self sufficiency. Her type simply doesn't exist anymore (Short of the Mennonite and Amish)
Everybody now buys everything and makes nothing then wonders why they're "Underprivileged".
Me I stay at home as much as I can, when I go to the store I stock up on whatever we eat that's on sale and buy as little gas as possible, it helps but this country is set up so if I followed in My Grandmother's footsteps I'd be shunned as weird.
Well I'm consiered weird anyway. but while it's easier to continue her lifestyle, it's very expensive to set up in the first place.
Answer this please, could you garden in your yard(Front or back) or is it prohibited by your local laws?
If i had to I could live like her and do fairly well, but I'd have to do it alone, none of my family would live like that by choice.
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Jim, just two questions:
1. Is your granny still living?
2. Does she take in boarders?
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Sorry Besoaker she died at the age of 75, she had some loggers cut wood (Her income) and her good friend and neighbor from across the pasture noticed they were cutting down Pecan trees, she told Granny and granny was climbing the hill in a white hot rage, and suddenly fell over dead, her friend was a registered Nurse and tried, but she was dead before she hit the ground.
I miss her.
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RJ-condolences. I thnk most everybody has a 'Grannie' story that relates to yours; thanks.
My Grannies both were very thrify ( pernoulious would be a compliment in their eyes) Dad's Mom taught me how to do in chickens for dinner that night, Mom's was at home behind the trusty Singer or in front of the stove inside a cloud of steam, canning whatever was in season.
I am blessed because Mrs. Ret has those same traits and is passing down to grand-daughter Bekah.
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To continue, the house is a ruin with no floors (they were 12 inch heart redwood and My uncle wanted them) then while we were at the funeral the house was robbed, Bastards even took the well pump, so there's no going back.
I own what was the cow pasture, nice semi snallow bowl , Had a trailer and lived ther 30 years or so, then I was hit by thieves who robbed all they could and burned the trailer to the ground, The Sherrif and Fire Marshal caught them but all that was left was ashes, I plan one day to rebuild, but fraankly don't have the strength, (Had a stroke, not to harmful, I've recovered but I'm weak)so my daughter asked if she could put a Trailer there (Some "Trailer) it's a large modular and very nice.
there's plenty of room left to Build on, but I can't buld right now, I currently live about 3 miles away and visit often.
Sigh.
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[Bangla Daily Star] Village arbitration on Monday let off an alleged rapist of a thirteen-year girl with a mere fine in Kalapara, one month into the orchestrated release of a band of alleged rapists in a similar fashion. The victim's family alleges a local public representative arranged the arbitration apparently to ensure escape of the rapist.
In another incident, a 12-year girl was gang-raped in Galachipa in the district on Tuesday night.
Earlier on Sunday night, shopkeeper Hanif Mollah, 30, of Dholir Bazar, Kalapara allegedly raped the thirteen-year-old girl when she came to buy goods from him.
Earlier on Sunday night, shopkeeper Hanif Mollah, 30, of Dholir Bazar, Kalapara allegedly raped the thirteen-year-old girl when she came to buy goods from him. Hearing her cries, locals held the culprit and handed him over to village defence police member Kawsar at around 8:45pm.
The next evening local Union Parishad member Anwar Hossain arranged the arbitration in presence of over 200 people where Hanif was handed down a fine of Tk 5,000 in addition to a whipping 50 times.
Family sources say Anwar forced the victim's father not to go for legal action and also pocketed the Tk 5,000 fine money.
Contacted, Anwar said the girl was not raped but there were some "symptoms" to that end. On the fine money, he said he kept it to manage different sections including the police.
Is 'managing' the Bangali word for 'bribing' ...
Ishaq Ali, officer-in-charge of Kalapara police, said he had sent an officer to the spot and would comment only after his return.
Superintendent of Police Shaibal Kanti Chowdhury told The Daily Star, "We will take necessary action after running a proper investigation into this matter."
This is the second such arbitration in Kalapara within a month in which local arbitrators gave verdict in a punishable offence in a manner which itself is a cognizable offence.
Earlier on September 27, 16 alleged rapists were summoned to a local high school and handed down a fine of Tk 10,000 each after they allegedly picked up a girl and gang-raped her.
In Galachipa, a 12-year girl was gang-raped Tuesday night when the victim was going to her uncle's house. The victim's uncle said three youths -- Liton, Manik and Yusuf -- picked up her from Godown Road, took her to a nearby rice mill and raped her.
Locals hearing her cry for help rushed to the spot and caught Liton, but the other two alleged rapists managed to escape. The victim was admitted to Galachipa Upazila Health Complex but was shifted to Patuakhali General Hospital later as her condition deteriorated. Police arrested Liton, 27, in this connection.
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Tennessee is urging 49 other states to come together and create a "joint working group between the states" to combat unconstitutional federal legislation and assert state rights.
Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen signed HJR 108, the State Sovereignty Resolution on June 23. According to the Tenth Amendment Center, the resolution created a committee to form a joint working group between the states to enumerate the abuses of authority by the federal government and seek repeal of imposed mandates.
State Rep. Susan Lynn recently wrote a letter to the other 49 state legislatures, inviting them to join the group and warning that the role of the federal government has been "blurred, bent and breached."
"The national government has become a complex system of programs whose purposes lie outside of the responsibilities of the enumerated powers and of securing our natural rights; programs that benefit some while others must pay," Lynn wrote. "Today, the federal government seeks to control the salaries of those employed by private business, to change the provisions of private of contracts, to nationalize banks, insurers and auto manufacturers, and to dictate to every person in the land what his or her medical choices will be."
She continued, "Forcing property from employers to provide healthcare, legislating what individuals are and are not entitled to, and using the labor of some so that others can receive money that they did not earn goes far beyond securing natural rights, and the enumerated powers in the Constitution."
Lynn said that the people created the federal government to be their agent only for certain enumerated purposes.
"The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that which has been delegated by the people to the federal government, and also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution of the United States," she wrote. "The rest is to be handled by the state governments, or locally, by the people themselves."
She noted that the Constitution does not include a congressional power to override state laws, nor does it give the judicial branch unlimited jurisdiction over all matters. Attempts to include such provisions in the Constitution were rejected by the Founding Fathers.
"With this in mind," she wrote, "any federal attempt to legislate beyond the Constitutional limits of Congress' authority is a usurpation of state sovereignty – and unconstitutional. Governments and political leaders are best held accountable to the will of the people when government is local. The people of a state know what is best for them; authorities, potentially thousands of miles away, governing their lives is opposed to the very notion of freedom."
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The latest argument, Hoyer's statements about the power to mandate the citizens of the United States to purchase, among other thing, health insurance under the guise of promoting the general welfare has me floored. It is time to fix this.
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Turning back the tide of federalism which has it's roots in the pre-Civil War period will be a daunting challenge. Over 600,000 lost their lives in the last attempt to pull away from Washington. Oh yes of course, it was all about health care slavery, nothing more. Let us hope and pray it does not come to armed conflict. Hat tip to Rep. Lynn.
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"Oh yes of course, it was all about slavery, nothing more"
It wasn't only about slavery where the North was concerned. If it had been only about that, then they'd have freed the slaves, taken the black population North (or chopped up pieces of the South to give them as land), and then allowed the white portion of the South to secede. Thus twin objectives would have been satisfied: no slavery allowed, and no violation of states' rights to secession. That might have been the optimal solution.
But it was all about maintaining slavery where the South was concerned: It seems highly coincidental otherwise that the desire and love for freedom from federal government only arose in slave-states.
And that's ofcourse why the Confederacy constitution forbade abolition of slavery in any of its states. So much for states' rights, so much for reducing the power of the federal government.
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Please if you will, allow a minor correct. Slavery existed not only in secessionist states but in Maryland, Delaware, Nebraska, the District of Columbia, the Indian Territory of what is now Oklahoma, and New Jersey. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation of January 1863 was a masterful propaganda tactic, but in truth, it proclaimed free only those slaves outside the control of the Federal government--that is, only those in areas still controlled by the Confederacy. Lincoln's aim was to reunify the nation. Abolition was the dog biting him in the ass which he skillfully tamed for his purposes. The scurge of slavery and it's legacy remain with us today.
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Yes indeed! Well done Glenmore. History and intentions can be rewritten and argued, but one thing which is most certainly indisputable, the practice of slavery certainly was a gift that keeps on giving.
It is a a shame that I know more about the US Constitution than you: Lincoln had no authority to abolish slavery in the States who had remained loyal.
Abou Lincoln not caring about slavery: let's remind that in the period between hos election and his oath he forbade republicabn legislators and his future ministers to make any concessions on slavery or promising a politic of exapnsion in South America or in Cuba (South wanted it in order to extend slavery).
1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Why do we harangue the Japanese about why they can't come to grips with the destruction and deprivation they created from 1936+ [or for from the Korean point of view 1905+] when even in our own society, people still need to ignore the clarity and conciseness and timing of the 13th Amendment.
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There was nothing in the Constitution that forbade secession. New York, Pennesylvania, and the New England states threatened to secede at times pryor to the Civil War but compromises were made. Why did Lincoln, when one of his advisors said they should let the South go, say "My God, man, who would pay our tarrifs"? The South was the Federal Government's piggy bank.
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"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime... shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
We now work until mid May to carry the debts and taxes of all levels of government each year. More than 40% of our earnings each year. In Europe at the heights of the Feudal period, serfs owed their leige lord only about 30% of their annual earnings, albeit mostly in work and produce rather than currency. We are wage serfs more that those of the Middle Ages. I submit that this does constitute "involuntary servitude" and although you might argue that we have convicted ourselves of the crime of indifference and inattention to our duties as citizens in letting this get so out of control, we still really need to fix this. Tennessee might have offered the answer. If we don't end this BS very soon, we lose our nation as we know it, or more ominously, violence is coming!
Excuise me but Secession due to tariffs (there had been thirty years of continuous decreasing of these) was just Confederate propaganda in order to be recognized by European Powers since slavery sold poorly. Also you could take a look at the pre Civil war Southern press and see how littel space was given to tariffs compared to slavery. Or read the Confederate Costitution: it is enlightening
Now if Lincoln had cared so much about tariffs and so little about slavery he would have made major concessions about the later and in tghe interval between his election and Forth Sumter promised a policy of South-American conquests and slavery introduction in order to get back the Deep South. Instead he adamantly opposed this policy.
Also I remind you that
1) Deep South didn't even wait for Lincoln's oath before seceeding. In other words it wasn't about Lincoln's policies it was about Deep South sh..g on democracy.
2) That teh Constitution didn't allow the President or the Congress to ban slavery against teh will of the States and it wouldn't have been possible to amend it before 1896 when the numbe of states reached the magic number of 45.
3) That the high South (including the four Staes who later joined the CSA) decided against Secession.
4) That before Fort Sumter Lincoln's policy had been to wait for heads cooling down and Sourthern states willingly reintegrating the Union (BTW Right to Secession was firmly opposed by President Buchanan). That in fact it was the worst fear of fire-eaters and that teh attack on Fort Sumter was largely motivated by the hope it would create a pro-secessionist tsunami in the High South states.
5) That when it was heard about Fort Sumter there were massive secessionist demonstrations in Richmond, Nashville and other High South cities, that the United States flag was replaced by the Confederate flag and that conventions fpr secession were formed. All of this happenned before Lincoln's call for volunteers so saying that it was this who pushed High South to Secession looks to be a fallacy. At most it hastened their Secession by a couple days.
6) That when it was heard about Confederates firing on Union soldiers at Fort Sumter states who, like New-York had been playing with the idea of becoming independent became solidly pro-Union and Lincoln was strongly criticized for being too lenient on the Rebels
So the story of American Civil War is how the South thought elections were only valid when they gave the "correct" result, how it fired on Union soldiers and how it ended having his a..s handled. Also the South should praise God for giving it the United States as its opponent: Lee walked away and Jefferson Davis spent two years in jail. In any European or South-American country executions would have numbered by the thousands or the tens of thousands.
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So the story of American Civil War is how the South thought elections were only valid when they gave the "correct" result, how it fired on Union soldiers and how it ended having his a..s handled. Also the South should praise God for giving it the United States as its opponent: Lee walked away and Jefferson Davis spent two years in jail. In any European or South-American country executions would have numbered by the thousands or the tens of thousands
We disagree on these points. The Supreme Court found that neither Jefferson Davis nor Robert E. Lee comitted any crime, including treason.
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At this point in time, I am more concerned about the Commerce Clause being used to regulate anything under the sun than I am about slavery.
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My state government will fight tooth and nail against Tennessee on this. Sigh.
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We disagree on these points. The Supreme Court found that neither Jefferson Davis nor Robert E. Lee comitted any crime, including treason.
That is the point: I can guarantee you, assumming they weren't slaves, that even the cooks and the house cleaners at Confederation's Presidencial palace would have been found guilty of treason had they been judged by French courts.
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Makes me proud to be a Tennessean. Phil Bredesen is a Democrat but a fairly sane individual. Fiscally conservative. Has experience in something other than government. Successful in business. Smaller government govenor. I don't think he had too much choice but to sign the bill because the Republicans took over the Legislature last year after years and years of Democratic control. While the Democrats were in control they were awful. I think they have been in control since just after the Civil War.
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I would like to point out two things to the assembled. First of all, please do not try and integrate the idea of secession into what is, right now, the purpose of restoring a constitutional balance between the federal government and the individual States.
This imbalance began in earnest only with the 16th (income tax) and 17th (direct election of US senators) Amendments to the constitution in 1913. The 16th allowed the federal government to directly control the people without the buffer of their State government; and the 17th stripped the individual States of their voice and power in the federal government.
During the first half of the 20th Century, anti-federalism was needed, because America's demographics were rapidly shifting, needing some degree of homogenization to insure justice in different States for our transient people. This was compounded by the horrific economic collapse of the Great Depression, and the inability of the marketplace to stabilize itself at the national level.
But in the second half of the 20th Century, though much was accomplished with powerful central government, such as the "Pax Americana", it was done with reckless spending and depletion of resources in an unsustainable manner.
Finally, the federal government has gone so out of bounds that it can no longer control itself, and seeks totalitarianism. The only constitutional check on federal power left is the individual States.
For their part, the States are approaching this situation much like the emergence of vigilantism, which begins as a peaceful movement, a petition that the government resume its proper role.
Since this has failed, not even garnering federal recognition, the next stage is for the States to group together to protest unlawful federal behavior. Likely this will fail as well, as the courts are part of the problem, not the solution.
After some pause, likely the federal government will finally notice, and attempt to bribe or punish States that are resisting. Then it will turn vicious, using non-governmental organizations to attack the States.
After this, there will be considerable momentum to call a constitutional convention, and no doubt, the federals will try to seize control of the convention. And this might cause something close to mutiny among federal officers (N.B.: "Oath Keepers"), who refuse to arrest or attack the constitutional convention.
Once the convention is seated, they will likely have to relieve elected and appointed officials in the government, federal police, intelligence services and military, as their first line of business, and direct US officers, both civilian and military, to strip them of those offices.
Of course this, all of it, will be ugly and messy, but necessary. The reordered federal government will be made over-weak, and once things are reestablished, there will be tremendous electoral upheaval.
In fact, I am starting to think that the only true democracy is the kind you get when you vote with your feet. Hence the need for federalism, and left's desire to abolish it completely.
Secession per se is not sh..g on democracy. Seceding when a president is acting like he has received a blank check and is trying to trample your rights is one thing. Seceding before he has even taken his oath is an entirely different one.
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Taking one more minute on the slavery/tariff rabbit track:
The southern states didn't see why they should pay for a canal in another part of the country. They saw only their individual states, not the nation as a whole. An interesting speech by Daniel Webster addresses this matter. (If you don't have William Safire's collection of speeches, Lend Me Your Ears, get it. Now. Smartest forty bucks you'll ever spend).
Southern industries, such as they were, benefitted from the tariff. Nothing prevented the South from developing their own factories, railroads, and other industries for home consumption. Nothing, that is, except the notion of the Gentleman Farmer, that a real gentleman didn't soil his hands with mere commerce.
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--- A constitutional convention [con-con] can go where no one has ever gone before, and where very few even want to consider going, just to remind everybody. There is no reason to expect that a 21st century con-con would function any better than the US Congress now does. Jefferson, Hamilton, Madison, John Jay & the others who launched the constitution have been dead a very long time, and there are few if any like them around today. Also want to remind everyone that the USA has had 2 civil wars, not one. The first civil war was the process that established of the USA, along with the confiscation of personal property, imprisonment, judicial murder, and/or exile of colonials who refused to commit what was then established as treason, aka the Loyalists. this, all of it, will be ugly and messy, but necessary. The reordered federal government will be made over-weak, and once things are reestablished, there will be tremendous electoral upheaval I think you have the cart several miles ahead of the horse. A con-con is as likely to make the government worse than it now is. A re-ordering of the federal government under due process, IMHO, can only happen as a result of tremendous electoral upheaval. There are, of course, many ways to re-order the federal government outside of due process, and I am not referring to armed rebellion, just to mundane things like an collapse of the dollar and the world economy, associated with a forced repudiation of the national debt; nukes flying in the middle east and taking giant oil fields out of production for a few decades; epidemics, etc.
--- They represent idealistic and foolish bottom 10% of the nations uneducated. Our last, best hope is a massive campaign to educate enough of the US electorate to force an electoral upheaval. That alone will bring on a crisis since vested interests, incumbents & the judiciary will do everything they can to interfere with a ballot-box revolution.
--- Nothing in the Constitution forbade secession, but nothing permitted it either.
--- Constitution does not include a congressional power to override state laws, nor does it give the judicial branch unlimited jurisdiction over all matters. This may be the case, but that is not the way Congress or the federal courts have been functioning for many decades now. In the 1930's FDR acted to void contracts agreeing to payments based on gold (IMO a violation of the Constitution) and the USSC upheld his action! The USSC also approved the imprisonment of US citizens without due process during WWII (internment of Japanese), and AFAICT this precedent still stands. The Black Hills were seized by the federal government in clear violation of treaties it was a party to, and the USSC did not mandate the return of that property, just the award of a piddling few dollars of grossly inadequate compensation which AFAICT the affected tribes have refused to accept. And on, and on.
Either you have the right of secession or you don't. It makes no difference what reason you have to exercise that right.
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It does not trouble me that the Constitution does not contain an explicit right to succeed. It is a document which lists out enumerated powers, and those left unenumerated are expressly retained by the states and the people respectively.
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Either you have the right of secession or you don't. It makes no difference what reason you have to exercise that right.
Without entering on the fine juridical reasonings for or against the secession (the Unionists had their aguments too) you ragument is a fallacy: you hacve a right to kill in some circumstances not just because you dislike the other guy's mustache.
Also what was undisputed by both sides was not the Right of Secession (who BTW isn't explictly allowed by teh Constitution) but the right of FRevelllion and that supposes some motiveations. Anyway even if we accept the right pf Secession their decision to exert it at this precise moment (ie even before Lincoln had taken his oath) says looooots about 1861 Southerners.
Also before Civil War, despite not being citizens slaves counted for 60% of their numbers fir detrmining number of Congressmen and Grand Electors. Plus thae Souk was over represented in Senate relative to population.
You are correct that every right has limits, but that avoids the issue.
Perhaps it's more clear when phrased this way: Does the right of succession exist? It really doesn't matter what might justify succession in one case and not another because we can take it as given that the opposing sides won't agree on this point.
As for the slavery / civil war stuff, I have no interest in that discussion. In fact I would stridently avoid it. The left will always try to link succession and slavery. They call those who want to restore federalism and the rule of law 'racists.' Why would we let them frame the debate like that?
Soory if I looked arrogant. in fact perhapas was I a bit: two or theree weeks ago there was guy in a Spanish news site who wrote an article telling what marxist and euro-supremùacist historinas have said about Lincoln: Civil War was due to tariffs not slavery. Now I kew the guy was writing in good in good faith: he is an admirer of Reagan. Now the litterature I had read about it denied itr was about tariffs and and gave proof of it. Now who was lying: my sources or his. So in order to write an answer I dug in the Internet abpout the evolution of tariffs between Andrew Jackson and Lincoln and found it was his sources who were lying. I aldo had serious refresher on the venets between war with Mexico and Civil War along with US Constitution.
So I was at my peak, but don't worry in a few moths I will haqve forgotten enough that I take my proper place behind you on knowledge about US history and Constitution.
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Anguper Hupomosing: Though long held, I think the fear of a constitutional convention is overrated. Remember that it takes 2/3rds of the States to convene, and 3/4ths of the States to approve.
This stops any kind of radicalism dead in its tracks.
Right now, the *only* thing the States agree to, and in a bipartisan way, I might add, is that the federal-State balance of power is out of whack. So correcting that, and restoring order to the federal government totally outweighs any other issues.
But this is not fixable with just an Amendment. To start with, perhaps the most important thing is the repeal of the 17th Amendment, the direct election of senators. Just this alone will restore the ability of the States to veto federal power grabs.
The next thing to be fixed is to decisively limit the federal budget process. A c-c could renounce the national debt, which is probably the fastest route to recovery. Then strictly limit federal spending.
Then a big one. Prohibit the federal government from either directly taxing individuals, or making direct payments to individuals. This would likely mean a national sales tax collected by the States.
Currently the federal government is prohibited from taxing the States directly, and this will probably remain, so the federal government would be dependent on the States for its paycheck.
There would most definitely be a rewrite of both the commerce clause and the general welfare clause, to make them much narrower in scope.
Then a real major headache--the recognition of the corporate structure in the constitution. Almost everyone cringes with the idea of corporations having the same rights as a person, so it is time to define what it is and what are its rights.
Federal judges will no longer be able to order state legislatures to appropriate money, or to create "special masters".
The president will have to have unique enabling legislation to write each and every executive order, and the c-c will have to put limits on presidential signing statements, that are currently unconstitutional.
The vast majority of federal land takings in mostly the western US will have to be returned, and enormous numbers of federal regulations will be deleted, as well as cabinet offices and departments.
I mentioned before that the c-c will be able to relieve any federal officer, agent, official or employee. This will likely mean the end to dozens of federal agencies and departments, without contract or court appeal.
Likely, additional restrictions will be placed on the ability of the senate and president to make treaties, for the president to make an undeclared war, that Posse Comitatus be enshrined in the constitution, and that federal judges are very limited in death penalty appeals, and in permitting litigation to drag on for years.
All of this and more would be needed to turn back a century or more of federal intrusion and unchecked growth. Once rebalanced, the federal-State balance should look a lot more like it did prior to the Civil War.
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I love Vista. It fixed a lot of the issues I had with XP and its driver gremlins and I haven't had any major issues. So Win7 would be even more icing on my delicious cake.
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Most complaints with computers have to do with insufficient RAM. One of the reasons why computers are so cheap is that the vendors deliver as little as 1GB of memory. Much software needs much more.
A MALAYSIAN Islamic court sentenced a Muslim sect leader to 10 years in prison and six lashes of a cane on Wednesday for spreading false teachings and claiming to be God's prophet.
Abdul Kahar Ahmad, 59, pleaded guilty in an Islamic Syariah court last month to charges of spreading false doctrine, blasphemy and violating religious precepts.
He had been charged in 2006 but went into hiding for three years to evade trial before Islamic religious police tracked him down in central Selangor state last month.
Officials have accused Abdul Kahar of sending letters to the prime minister and other authorities to urge them to affirm him as a prophet, claiming he was appointed by God under the same circumstances as the Prophet Muhammad.
The Syariah court in Selangor decided Wednesday to jail Abdul Kahar for 10 years, said state prosecutor Muhamad Nazri Basrawi. He will also be caned six times and must pay a fine of RM16,500 (S$7,000), Mr Muhamad Nazri said.
Earlier this month in court, Abdul Kahar reportedly urged his supporters to forget his teachings and repent. Prosecutors say he is believed to have had more than 100 followers.
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How about working up some Rouge Rage? I can picture Letterman's head bobing up and down as he does another of his vicous slams. Anyone know where I can get some keen Bobbing Head Liberal action figures? I'd be set for Christmas.
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Some more thoughts on the Bobbing Head Liberal actions figures. Please no black ones, political correcrtness and all makes it not worth it, but there are plenty of good white candidates. Dozens of Hollywood types fill the bill. But how about folks like George Soros. My personal favorite is Nancy Peloski. There is a special place in my bathroom that would be just right for her. More thoughts?
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The book uses the image of Sarah Palin. Does anyone here have any ideas about her options on the use of her image without permission?
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Not much, tipover. She's a public figure and the "authors" would probably claim fair use.
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I will visit the bookstores, with ink in hand. Red Ink. A bit of that poured along the tops of a whole set of those books will cause them to be returned as ruined, the publisher will eat the expense.
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Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said the H1N1 flu vaccine was developed to kill people, UPI reported.
"The Earth can't take 6.5 billion people. We just can't feed that many. So what are you going to do? Kill as many as you can," Farrakhan reportedly said during an event in Memphis, Tenn. "We have to develop a science that kills them and makes it look as though they died from some disease."
The 76-year-old added that many wise people won't take the vaccine, according to UPI.
His comments were made during an event to observe the group's Holy Day of Atonement, and also marked the 14th anniversary of the Million Man March in Washington.
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The Earth can't take 6.5 billion people. We just can't feed that many. So what are you going to do? Kill as many as you can," Farrakhan reportedly said...
Must be something in the Chicago water. His neighbor just down the street has the same notion regarding health insurance and the elderly.
Actually, the food isn't a problem. The problem is delivery hampered by kleptocrats, war lords, self important bureaucrats, and 'special interests' groups.
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If I were a racist and wanted to kill as many black people as I could and enslave the rest, I could not do a much better job than liberals and black activists. They convincing blacks to be utterly dependent upon the government for everything, to become unquestioningly servile and submissive to a single political party regardless of how badly it represents them. I'd also destroy the strong family and education culture that developed men like Booker T Washington, and instead glorify ignorance and violence, and teach abdication of responsibility, and allow them to hate and blame everyone but themselves for their failure, and to be blatantly racist against all groups except their own. Also I would be sure to push abortion on them, by putting abortion clinics mainly in poor black areas. Finally I would inculcate a paranoia that pushes them to suspend reason and believe every nutjob conspiracy that comes along, especially ones that convince them to do unhealthy things like rejecting immunizations, and practicing rampant promiscuity.
One gets the feeling that Liberals and people like Jackson, Sharpton and Farrakhan are putting blacks on the plantation and making sure they die there.
When will black people wake up? Do blacks love the slave's chains they willingly put on with their blinders? From this evidence, they must love being harvested for votes, nothing more than livestock on the Democrat Party's plantation.
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Wouldn't it be nice to ask his Chicago friends in Washington if they agreed with him on killing off as many people as they can? Then see how many of them waffle on this simple question.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah and the CIA invented the AIDS virus to kill off blacks and W personally blew up the levees in New Orleans and ONLY blacks died in Katrina...blah blah blah.
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#12 - you left out the 'fact' that George W. Bush personally flew one airliner into the World Trade Center and that Dick Cheney personally flew the other one, and that they were replaced by robots controlled by {insert favorite hobgoblin here}.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
An ice-skating bear with a visiting Russian circus turned on its trainers on Wednesday, killing the circus director and seriously wounding another man during a rehearsal in the Central Asian country of Kyrgyzstan.
The eco-pawprint of a pet dog is twice that of a 4.6-litre Land Cruiser driven 10,000 kilometres a year, researchers have found. Victoria University professors Brenda and Robert Vale, architects who specialise in sustainable living, say pet owners should swap cats and dogs for creatures they can eat, such as chickens or rabbits, in their provocative new book Time to Eat the Dog: The real guide to sustainable living.
A MALAYSIAN Islamic court sentenced a Muslim sect leader to 10 years in prison and six lashes of a cane on Wednesday for spreading false teachings and claiming to be God's prophet.
Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said the H1N1 flu vaccine was developed to kill people, UPI reported.
