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Afghanistan: Mullah Omar's arrest 'unlikely'
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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Dhimmitude at Scholastic Books
Wait 'til you get to the part where they agree to take the flag off the Pentagon.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/08/2010 03:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Selling books to the Middle East. I liked two things:

Chip Rossetti, an Arabic literature translator who writes about publishing in the Middle East, said a movement is growing to encourage a culture of reading for pleasure, which has mostly been a pastime of the elite. "... in these countries education tends to be more about rote learning, less about free reading."

Much later -
Already, this infusion has transformed some West Bank children into critical thinkers.
A bit of a stretch, but that's the idea. Get their little heads out of the Koran, and their Imam's interpretations thereof, and take a look at the rest of the world.
Posted by: Bobby || 07/08/2010 6:05 Comments || Top||

#2  EasyReader editions of Nabakov for the newly-literate.
Posted by: Black Bart Shick7973 || 07/08/2010 6:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Fear and Loathing in Ramallah.
Posted by: ed || 07/08/2010 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Clifford the Big Red Cultural Imperialist Dog.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/08/2010 10:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Ummm, it's Nabokov Black Bart with an O.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 10:03 Comments || Top||

#6  the skin tone and hair of the Swiss orphan girl in "Heidi" was darkened

WTF?

Everything done today in the US has to have a carefully balanced representation so that quadriplegic lesbian Aborigines feel included, but the Arab world can't deal with a white girl living in Switzerland?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 07/08/2010 17:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Hurts their self-esteem?
Posted by: lotp || 07/08/2010 19:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Everything done today in the US has to have a carefully balanced representation

The Soviets gave Lenin statues distinctively Asian features in the eastern holdings.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/08/2010 21:49 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Afghanistan: Mullah Omar's arrest 'unlikely'
(AKI) - By Syed Saleem Shahzad - The head of the Taliban, Mullah Muhammad Omar is not the kind of person to live outside of Afghanistan, making unconfirmed reports of his arrest in neighbouring Pakistan unlikely, according to former Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan Aziz Ahmed Khan.

"Mullah Muhammad Omar got religious education in Afghanistan, he lived through and through in Afghanistan. The only time he lived in Pakistan was during early 1990s when he studied a three month course of Islamic jurisprudence from slain Maulana Yousuf Ludhianvi in Karachi's Jamia Binori Town," said Khan, amassador to Kabul during the Taliban regime, recounting to Adnkronos International (AKI) on Tuesday a conversation he had with Omar.

"As soon as he finished his course he went back to Afghanistan. It has never been in his nature to live out of Afghanistan. Therefore I don't think that he ever lived in Quetta or in Karachi after the Taliban's defeat in Afghanistan," Khan said.

Afghan television Tolo television reported Omar was arrested Tuesday in the port city of Karachi.

Taliban spokesman Qari Yusuf Ahmadi, contacted by news agency New China, denied the new of the arrest calling it western propaganda.
Posted by: Fred || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Mullah Muhammad Omar is not the kind of person to live outside of Afghanistan

That's good to know. I guess Old One Eye heads The Other Quetta Shura. The one named after Quetta, Afghanistan.
Posted by: ed || 07/08/2010 0:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Heh heh! Took me a few seconds to figure out the graphic! :-)
Posted by: gorb || 07/08/2010 9:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Ummm, Gorb. it seems plain to me.

Shock the person speaking could be that damn dumb.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 9:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Plus the "One Eye" theme. It's perfect!
Posted by: gorb || 07/08/2010 10:39 Comments || Top||


UK troops forced to pull out: Taliban
The reclusive leader of the Taliban has taken credit for a plan by British troops to pull out from a troubled southern district in Afghanistan, saying they were forced to withdraw by the militants.

A statement attributed to Mullah Mohammad Omar said Wednesday that British forces were pulling out from the violence-wracked Sangin district of Afghanistan's Helmand Province due to pressure from militant attacks.

"This is the start of the British forces' defeat in Afghanistan," a Taliban spokesman, Yousuf Ahmadi, quoted Mullah Omar as saying.

"We defeated them in Sangin. They'll be defeated in the rest of the country soon," he added.

Under the new plan, British troops will hand over control of the troubled region to US forces. Taliban militants, however, warned that the US forces will suffer "the same fate."

The statement came out as UK Defense Secretary Liam Fox announced a plan by Britain to hand over control of the area to US forces by the end of the year.

Fox insisted that the move was not a withdrawal but a logical redeployment.
Posted by: Fred || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Britain
Airline Bomb Plotters Convicted
Ibrahim Savant, Arafat Khan and Waheed Zaman were convicted by a jury at Woolwich Crown Court. The three men were among eight tried in connection with an al Qaida-inspired plot to detonate homemade liquid bombs on transatlantic jets.

They were cleared by a jury of their role in targeting aeroplanes but put on trial again to face charges of conspiracy to murder. A Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) spokesman said the jury found all three men guilty today.

Savant, of Denver Road, Stoke Newington, Khan, of Farnan Avenue, Walthamstow, and Zaman, of Queen's Road, Walthamstow, will be sentenced tomorrow.

Abdulla Ahmed Ali, of Walthamstow, Assad Sarwar, of High Wycombe, and Tanvir Hussain, of Leyton, were found guilty of the airline bomb plot last year.

The al Qaida-inspired plot led by Ali involved smuggling liquid bombs in drinks bottles on to planes bound for North America. The hydrogen peroxide devices would have been assembled and detonated in mid-air by a team of suicide bombers.

Ali singled out seven flights to San Francisco, Toronto, Montreal, Washington, New York and Chicago that departed within two and a half hours of each other. If successful, the explosions could have exceeded the carnage of the September 11 attacks.

The arrest of the gang in August 2006 sparked tight restrictions on carrying liquids on to aircraft which initially caused travel chaos.
This article starring:
Arafat Khan
Ibrahim Savant
Waheed Zaman
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2010 12:30 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Hook extradition halted by EU judges
Human rights judges have ordered a halt to the extraditions of Babar Ahmad and radical preacher Abu Hamza, both wanted in the US on terror charges.
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2010 07:31 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If ever there was a crying need for vigilantism...

I can imagine the scene of jubilation, as they are dragged from the overwhelmed and unarmed bobbies by the angry, but cheerful mob. Sewn into pig skins, then hung by the neck as they cry, scream, whine and curse.

It would do wonders for the public morale, and law and order.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/08/2010 9:19 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm just waiting for Hookie to claim that he has terminal prostate cancer ...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/08/2010 15:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Extradite to Atlantis.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/08/2010 20:12 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Nuevo Leon: Mexican Army Nabs Los Zetas Top Dawg
Google Translate
Elements of the Mexican Army arrested Esteban Luna Luna AKA "The Chachi", brother of detained Los Zetas criminal gang commander in Monterrey Raul Luna Luna AKA "the Tory", say Mexican news reports.

Raul Luna Luna was arrested June 9th of this year with four other people and a number of military munitions including grenade launchers.

Also arrested with Esteban Luna Luna was René Gonzälez Muñoz AKA "The Junior", who along with "Chachi" are allegedly responsible for the disappearance of elements of the Mexican army and various armed attacks against military personnel.
Posted by: badanov || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This reminds of the rumor that the short-lived TV show "Joanie Loves Chachi" was a hit in Korea, because "Chachi" roughly translated to "p*nis".

Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/08/2010 9:29 Comments || Top||


Chihuahua: "...we saw that she was dead "
Google Translate

Translation note: The translation of the summary said that Rosado was not one of the elements who pulled the trigger, but in the confession, he admits to being one of the shooters...

Mexican Federal agents arrested a man Tuesday they say was a lookout for the group that assassinated a Chihuahua assistant attorney general, according to the Mexican daily Tiempo.

Cristian Rosado was arrested in connection with the murder of Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado Subprocuradora de Asuntos Internos, Sandra Ivonne Salas June 30th in Juarez.

In a video statement Rosado said he was paid 2,000 pesos a week for his work with the Juarez cartel group La Linea. He also said he worked nearly everyday but he didn't shoot everytime he worked.

La Linea is one of the most vicious Mexican criminal gangs in existence.

Rosado said he was given the order to kill Salas June 30th.

Rosado said there was an inside source that betrayed Salas when the person said he would use Salas' vehicle, a gold Dodge Durango, to buy food at 1500 hrs. in order to "paint the target" for the killers, who were laying in wait.

At about 1930 hrs, Salas left her office with two people, a bodyguard and another person, and an escort vehicle. The assassins were aboard four vehicles and began pursuit of Salas.

Rosado said Salas drove very fast and left behind her escort vehicle vehicles behind, but when she drove in an underpass on Avenida Las Torres, that was when he started shooting.

"When we met and we drove by, we saw that she was dead."
Posted by: badanov || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  $200 a week to kill people?
Jeesh!
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Some of them kill for the fun of it - the $200 is just lagniappe.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/08/2010 7:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Google 'Mexican cult of death'. They have a cultural quirk about death that even a Muslim could admire, though they're not up to the 'ploding vest stage yet.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/08/2010 8:26 Comments || Top||


Europe
Poland to expel suspected Mossad agent
A Polish court has ordered the extradition to Germany of a suspected Mossad agent with links to the January killing of a Hamas leader in Dubai. Acting on a German international arrest warrant, Polish officials arrested Israeli Uri Brodsky on June 4th on charges of obtaining a passport by fraudulent means. German prosecutors say the man was not involved directly in the Dubai incident, but allege he helped obtain a German passport issued last year in Cologne and used later in the incident.

"The court has decided to hand over Uri Brodsky to German authorities for judicial procedures there," said Judge Tomasz Talkiewicz, after the case was heard on Tuesday and yesterday in a closed Warsaw district court.

Mr Brodsky was in the courtroom for proceedings but hid his face from cameras with the hood of a dark blue rain jacket. While being escorted from the court by Polish anti-terrorism police, he covered his face with his hands.

In its verdict the court ruled that Mr Brodsky should only face charges in Germany for offences also punishable under Polish law. "The court did not decide whether Brodsky committed the crime for which he is under investigation, merely checked whether the extradition request satisfied formal requirements and whether the suspect has been correctly identified."

Last month's arrest started a diplomatic tug-of-war between two of Poland's closest allies: Germany's federal prosecutor insisted the man be turned over for questioning while the Israeli embassy lobbied the Polish authorities to repatriate the man, one of 26 suspects connected to the incident.

The Dubai hotel killing of Mahmud al-Mabhuh, a founder of the military wing of Hamas, caused international outcry after the assassins, widely suspected of being Mossad agents, used forged passports from Britain, France, Ireland, Australia and Germany.

According to German media reports, the application for the passport was made in line with a post-war German agreement to offer citizenship to Jews who fled the country because of Nazi persecution. An applicant calling himself Michael Bodenheimer presented documents in Cologne purporting to show residence in Germany and a wedding certificate from parents he claimed fled the Nazis. It was later established that the identity had been stolen: Michael Bodenheimer lives in Israel and told local media he had not applied for a German passport.

Israeli cabinet ministers asked Poland to repatriate the man and allow the Israeli authorities deal with Germany's request. Mr Brodsky has three days to appeal.
Alleged Mossad agent may appeal extradition over Dubai hit
Posted by: ryuge || 07/08/2010 03:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


The Grand Turk
Turkey's Christians In Danger
For all the attention Turkey has gotten lately, very few Americans are aware that the Roman Catholic bishop serving as apostolic vicar of Anatolia was stabbed to death and decapitated last month by an assailant shouting, "Allahu Akbar! I have killed the great Satan!"

There are fewer than 60 Catholic priests in all of Turkey, and yet Bishop Luigi Padovese was the fifth of them to be shot or stabbed in the last four years, starting with the murder of Fr. Andrea Santoro in 2006, also by an assailant shouting, "Allahu Akbar!" (An Armenian journalist and three Protestants working at a Christian publishing house -- one of them German, the other two Turkish converts -- were also killed during this period.)

Whats going on? Why has traditionally secularist Turkey, with its minuscule Christian community (less than 0.2 percent of the population), lately become nearly as dangerous for Christians as neighboring Iraq? And why has this disturbing pattern of events so far escaped notice in the West?

In a nutshell, all these violent acts reflect a popular culture increasingly shaped by Turkish media accounts deliberately promoting hatred of Christians and Jews.
Posted by: Frozen Al || 07/08/2010 13:17 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Petraeus e-mails on Israel leaked
One of the endlessly repeated tropes of the coverage of Gen. Stanley McChrystal's downfall was how he lacked savvy in dealing with the media, particularly when compared with his boss and replacement, Gen. David Petraeus.

But even the ultrasavvy Petraeus slips sometimes, apparently. The Nation's Philip Weiss has gotten hold of e-mails that the general accidentally attached to the bottom of a story forwarded to an activist, showing the general urging Commentary's Max Boot to write a piece pushing back against the narrative that he was critical of the U.S.'s special relationship with Israel.

A sampling from the leaked e-mails:

Does it help if folks know that I hosted Elie Wiesel and his wife at our quarters last Sun night?! And that I will be the speaker at the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the concentration camps in mid-Apr at the Capitol Dome ...

Boot had been working for some time to knock down the story that Gen. Petraeus thought the U.S.'s policy toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was fueling hostility to Americans throughout the region. Following Mark Perry's March 13 story in Foreign Policy that Petraeus wanted Israel and the Palestinian territories included under his Central Command, rather than under Europe, Boot wrote a piece quoting an unnamed military officer who said Perry's reporting was "incorrect." (Weiss suspects that officer is Petraeus himself.)

A few days later, when Petraeus testified before Congress, Media Matters' MJ Rosenberg wrote a piece celebrating his stance on the Israel issue. A State Department official forwarded the story to Petraeus, who then forwarded it to Boot, with the note, "As you know, I didn't say that. It's in a written submission for the record ..."

Boot replied:

Oh brother. Luckily it's only media matters which has no credibility but think I will do another short item pointing people to what you actually said as opposed to what's in the posture statement.

Which, after a few more exchanges with Petraeus -- ending with "Roger! :)" from the general -- he did.
Posted by: logi_cal || 07/08/2010 07:42 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This news scares me, It looks to me that there's an organized "Get rid of ALL Effective/Good American Military Leaders" program in progress.

First Mcchrystal, second Petraeus (But never Obama He's on OUR side, You know)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Having the big shots in The Corporation pissed off at you is probably not a good thing. McChrystal didn't die, he just retired, and still commands considerable influence I'd guess.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 14:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Bigjim yes he's alive, but removed from slaughtering bad guys, see what I mean?

Can't do any Muzzie blasting as an EX soldier.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 17:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
New Yorkers fight three new mosques
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2010 20:07 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Redneck Mosque Arsonist Caught--Clearly a Teabagger
Hat tip to the JammieWearingFool. The perp doesn't look like he reads Anne Coulter ...
Posted by: charger || 07/08/2010 14:49 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tucker says Mendy describes himself as a devout Muslim who had attended the mosque. Tucker didn't characterize a motive but says it doesn't appear to be a hate crime.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm...how come?
Oh. Nevermind.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/08/2010 15:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Huh. I guess they really did fire bomb themselves.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 07/08/2010 15:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Alright, MODS.

I have a bone to pick with you:

You don't permit denigrating the Dear Leader of our failing country (even subtle humor)....

but you permit DENIGRATING LABELS to be used in posts when NOT referring to the Dear Leader.

I refer specifically to the T-------r term.

I do NOT find it amusing. It represents the single WORST example of media bias and ignorance on a scale I can only compare to a media icon publicly using the word n----r. Parroting the term T-------r justifies its origin and continued use by ignorant idiots. The poster doesn't realize what they're doing. Some may not be offended by its use, but permitting it ensures it will remain in the lexicon.

A more appropriate and more accurate 'creative' header would have been,
"Mosque Arson Solved-- Black Muslim in Custody". The irony is clear w/o the derogatory term.

You mods need to get your s--t together; you're all over the place. Between your rabid censoring of Bama commentary/posts and what I believe to be filtering of my non-Bama posts, you're losing more than just me.

If this isn't a conservative blog, please set me straight and I'll be gone forever. ed may have been more spot-on than I care admit at this time.

Signed,
A white, non-racist, strongly-conservative (& Constitutional) entreprenuer labeled a 'right-wing extremist' & danger to his country by his own government for his political views.
Posted by: logi_cal || 07/08/2010 15:57 Comments || Top||

#4  I think teabagger should live on in the lexicon for a long time. It reveals many subtle truths about the leftards and their guise of 'peaceful and open debate'.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 16:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Lighten up, Francis...
Posted by: Raj || 07/08/2010 16:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm not sure what posts were deleted or edited or whatever that Logi_cal refers to, but I don't see any problem with this particular headline.

The "teabagger" is clearly tongue-in-cheek snark, which is always welcome at the 'burg.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 07/08/2010 16:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Huh. I guess they really did fire bomb themselves.

Proving that they are not human? Hey their words not mine! Lots of flags in the story..happened just after a meeting, graffitti then burn the place down, a couple more I won't get into.

L-Cal, I get your point, I had a conversation with a buddy from CA, talked politics and econ, mentioned he has many of the same positions as a Tea Party member would should have seen the following flip out. Take a breath, find the cnn video report, then tell me that wasn't the storyline they were attempting to put together then tell me if there is any mention of this by any three letter station today or even tomorrow.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/08/2010 16:59 Comments || Top||

#8  As a long time lurker hereabouts,

I agree and disagree with logi-cal re:censorship on the burg. Criticism of the One, or any other American officeholder, should be free and open for any American voter, as long as it doesn't denigrate the office but rather the empty suit occupying it.

Let us not ride the censorship and/or the Orwellian word corraling bandwagon by banning certain words, whatever they are, and become an echo chamber of meaningless reassurance of our own rightness and righteousness, but rather let the burg remain a place of real and open conversation.

Logi-cal is right that less censorship is needed hereabouts; we're all grown ups and should be providing the censorship functions for our own comments and we should be prepared to suffer whatever consequences may come of our decisions to make said comments.

A Laissez Faire approach to social order enforcement is perhaps the right approach on the burg, I think the community here reflects the desire for that type of content management by the mods rather than relying on the "thought police" to keep them safe from bad people who say bad things.

Thanks again Fred, et al for all you do here. The burg tis my refuge from the useless lame stream media content I otherwise must suffer through to gather my desired information. Rock On!
Posted by: Onerous || 07/08/2010 17:03 Comments || Top||

#9  If this isn't a conservative blog, please set me straight and I'll be gone forever.

logi_cal , Rantburg is not a conservative blog. It is a war blog, set up to track the War on Terror. We follow politics inasmuch as it impacts the fight against the Islamofascists/jihadis/caliphatists. At rough estimate about 1/4th of our regulars are liberals, what used to be called Scoop Jackson Democrats, perhaps another 1/4th are Independents of various stripes. Granted, the conservatives are the noisiest on political issues, but they are not necessarily even a majority here. If you want political agreement, you are right to go somewhere else.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/08/2010 17:07 Comments || Top||

#10  I find the term teabagger disgusting and on par with nigger. It is a vile attempt to belittle the cerner of our political system to nothing more than some lowlife act. So now you know how I stand on the term.

Ladies and gentlemen this is Rantburg. This was a pun, and a tackey one at that but still. But just as I somtimes dont agree with some posting and I'm certain that my calling Zero a Fu(king idiot offends some-not sure who-but it does, It was meant as a joke/irony/dark humor. Get over it. I mean to ask, so what should it have said? The truth would have sounded like a hate crime in the process.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/08/2010 20:28 Comments || Top||

#11  Zero IS an a##hole. That is a modest insult at most.
Posted by: Ford Maude Elle || 07/08/2010 20:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Oh ya and before you sink the last comment, my obigitory suck up comment. Thanks MODs! We may bitch but we do love ya!

Like my mom used to tell me "Stick and stones......
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/08/2010 20:31 Comments || Top||

#13  Why sinktrap it? My comment is this: how could somebody make it to the oval office in this day and age and not be somewhat of a jerk? I mean, has anyone seen a truly NICE politician in a hot minute that actually got elected to high office?
Posted by: Ford Maude Elle || 07/08/2010 20:35 Comments || Top||

#14  Update:

A Muslim man charged with setting fire to a Marietta mosque may be in the country illegally, law enforcement officials confirmed Thursday.
....
While Mendy sat in jail Thursday, his wife’s cousin, Momodou Njie, was proclaiming his innocence.

“[Mendy] is not a criminal. It makes no sense for a Muslim to set fire to a mosque where he goes to pray everyday,” Njie told the AJC. “I think the authorities are looking for a quick answer and there he was. I still think this was a hate crime.”

Njie also insisted that Mendy was in the country legally.

“He has been staying with me for the past two weeks and I have known him for six or seven years, he is not that kind of guy,” Njie said. “I would like to see the evidence against him.”
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2010 20:48 Comments || Top||

#15  an illegal muslim? I sense a presidential pardon and executive order citizenship
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 20:51 Comments || Top||

#16  The continued slandering of helpless primates must be stopped!
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2010 21:20 Comments || Top||

#17  I guess I was wrong. So be it. I'm with ed...
Posted by: logi_cal || 07/08/2010 21:20 Comments || Top||

#18  Rantburg is not a conservative blog. It is a war blog, set up to track the War on Terror. We follow politics inasmuch as it impacts the fight against the Islamofascists/jihadis/caliphatists. At rough estimate about 1/4th of our regulars are liberals, what used to be called Scoop Jackson Democrats, perhaps another 1/4th are Independents of various stripes. Granted, the conservatives are the noisiest on political issues, but they are not necessarily even a majority here. If you want political agreement, you are right to go somewhere else.

K...that's the most hypocritical and naive statement I've read in a long, long time. Liberals do not believe in the WOT (aptly renamed in liberal lexicon, 'contingency operation') and, for 6 years, pounded our soldiers' efforts with so much negativity, I thought for sure it would wreck the military.

RB overwhelmingly posts & comments on a conservative track. You, my dear, expose yourself for what you are and that's fine. I would bet money that one or more of the mods are black and a bit racially sensitive at that. Too bad for the childish behavior; decades of racial tensions to break the last democrat (YES, democrat) bastions of southern racial separation to get a president that exacerbates racial divide...shameful. Civil Rights have denigrated into inequality among blacks vs. everyone else due to racism on their part.

My conservative friends pointed me here long ago as a result of their experience, but I think this experience has ran its course.

On the 't-------r is ok' comments, you're being played a fool: The term was invented by a media personality, not some idiot on a rampage at a rally. I totally disagree with letting it go; I'll leave it at that.

finito
Posted by: logi_cal || 07/08/2010 21:40 Comments || Top||

#19  You would lose your bet, logi_cal.

Every so often someone cries "CENSORSHIP" here when one of the very few rules is enforced.

And each time it falls to the mods to point out a couple things:

1. This is Fred's living room, not the town square. No one intends to - nor can we - control your speech in general. We can and occasionally do, however, require that a few basic rules be followed in this particular, private place.

2. Sometimes what makes sense from the perspective of expressing your own personal beliefs and feelings is less helpful from the perspective of the site. Openly libelous speech here would put Fred and Rantburg at risk, but probably not you.

3. This site is one of the few places where the WOT is still tracked in detail. I know that I am not alone in steering thoughtful people here and in some cases Fred's patient, time-consuming work since 9/12/2001 has paid off .... eyes opened, new understanding, they go out to influence others or take action.

It's not for nothing that Instapundit links here regularly. You might be surprised just what IP addresses come here from time to time. There are some kinds of speech that are so offensive to most people that allowing them here would completely undercut the impact of this site in rallying support for the WOT and documenting what's at the core of world events right now.

So, bottom line:

- 'censorship' is a red herring. You're free to use whatever language you like - but not necessarily here, where the very few limits are indeed real limits.

- Rantburg exists for a purpose. For a couple purposes, more exactly, but for a main purpose: to track and analyze the civilizational war we are in and where possible to influence how people understand the events around us.

Fred puts in hours a day on this site. So do the mods.

And logi_cal, you're way off base if you think Trailing Wife or any of the other mods aren't quite clear about who our regular posters are, what locales host the the spam and hack attacks this site regularly attracts, or what the range of political opinions are among the regulars here.

You owe TW an apology.


Posted by: lotp || 07/08/2010 22:05 Comments || Top||

#20  Ed and logi_cal, I'm with Raj: "Lighten up, Francis"

uh.... wait a minute

OK, I'm still with Raj. I'd hate to see you go, but there are rules, Fred's rules. If they are too tough, oh well....

If I can operate within those rules, anybody else should be able to
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 22:09 Comments || Top||

#21  I can appreciate logi_cal's sentiments regarding the "teabagger" slur because that's exactly what it is, a slur. Like the shall-not-be-spoken "n-word" it exists and is applied in an attempt to denigrate and dehumanize the intended target. On top of that and by virtue of it's historical implications, the "n-word" is racially charged in a way the "t-word" has yet to achieve. That's my personal opinion, of course, which may well change in due time. But until then, and as someone who thinks the taboo imposed on the "n-word" is borderline political correctness run amok, I also endeavor to maintain a degree of sensitivity to those who may find it offensive and so choose to exclude it from my own lexicon. Which is to say that I'd rather not start calling for the word police whenever the term "teabagger" is used in a facetious way to highlight the utter hypocrisy and intellectual bankruptcy of those who do use it as a slur.

Just my unsolicited $0.02.
Posted by: eltoroverde || 07/08/2010 23:39 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm with LC and Eltoroverde on that slur - we shouldn't dignify it with acceptance and casual re-use. Tea Party indiduals are American citizens and demand the respect that entails, no more, no less
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 23:50 Comments || Top||

#23  or individuals, even. God I wish there was a "oh crap" button when you see it posting as you realize there was an error... my bad
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 23:52 Comments || Top||


Rick Lazio challenges Cuomo over legality of Ground Zero mosque funding
Republican gubernatorial candidate Rick Lazio challenged his Democratic opponent Wednesday to explore the legality of the funding behind a proposed mosque near Ground Zero.
He's waaaaay behind in the polls, isn't he ...
"New Yorkers have a right to feel safe and be safe," Lazio told reporters in lower Manhattan. "There are serious security questions about the appropriateness of this mosque."

Lazio demanded Attorney General Andrew Cuomo figure out where the backers of the Cordoba House expect to get $100 million to build it.

"Anyone who has evidence of wrongdoing should send it to us, and we will review it," Cuomo replied in a statement.

In a letter he sent to Cuomo, Lazio cited press accounts that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who's spearheading the mosque's construction, is a "key figure" in an organization that funded the flotilla that sought to break Israel's Gaza blockade.

Debra Burlingame, whose brother Charles was a pilot on the plane terrorists crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11, said the imam has written about his hopes of bringing strict Islamic law to the United States.

"He means to use the Ground Zero location of the mosque to 'leverage' people to Islam," said Burlingame, the co-founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America.

Organizers behind Cordoba House have said they have peaceful intentions and the mosque is just one part of a larger community center that will be open to everyone.

The center would be located on Park Place, about two blocks from the World Trade Center site.
This article starring:
Feisal Abdul Rauf
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2010 09:16 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Go to the closest slaughterhouse and dump all the Pig guts you can find at "Ground Zero", that'll kill this Muzzie crap once and for all.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 10:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Lazio doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming NY's governor. However, props for calling out Son of Cuomo.
Posted by: Glomock Tojo6610 || 07/08/2010 10:29 Comments || Top||


CNN’s Octavia Nasr Leaving Network After Controversial Hezbollah Tweet
In the latest case of new media (or oversharing) gone wrong, CNN’s Senior Editor of Mideast Affairs Octavia Nasr is leaving the company following the controversy caused by her tweet in praise of Hezbollah leader Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah

Mediaite has the internal memo, which says “we believe that her credibility in her position as senior editor for Middle Eastern affairs has been compromised.”

Nasr tweeted this weekend: “Sad to hear of the passing of Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah… One of Hezbollah’s giants I respect a lot.”

After a blog post expanding on her position, CNN promised the issue was “serious” and would “be dealt with accordingly.” That’s apparently her exit from CNN. Here’s an internal memo obtained by Mediaite:

From Parisa Khosravi – SVP CNN International Newsgathering

I had a conversation with Octavia this morning and I want to share with you that we have decided that she will be leaving the company. As you know, her tweet over the weekend created a wide reaction. As she has stated in her blog on CNN.com, she fully accepts that she should not have made such a simplistic comment without any context whatsoever. However, at this point, we believe that her credibility in her position as senior editor for Middle Eastern affairs has been compromised going forward.
As a colleague and friend we’re going to miss seeing Octavia everyday. She has been an extremely dedicated and committed part of our team. We thank Octavia for all of her hard work and we certainly wish her all the best.
Parisa.

Nasr has been with CNN for 20 years.
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2010 03:05 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, CNN doesn't have any problem with Hezbollah sympathizers as senior editors. It's only when the outside world gets wind of it that it becomes a problem.
Posted by: gromky || 07/08/2010 4:35 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a job requirement.
Posted by: gorb || 07/08/2010 9:34 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Zardari in China to seal nuke deal
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/08/2010 03:46 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Abbas to Arabs: We'd Support a War Against Israel
A reminder of what Israel is up against.
Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas told Arab leaders that the PA is ready to wage war on Israel if the rest of the Arab world does, according to the PA daily Al-Hayat al-Jadida as translated by Palestinian Media Watch.
Funny, he didn't say it in English ...
"If you want war, and if all of you will fight Israel, we are in favor. But the Palestinians will not fight alone because they don't have the ability to do it," Abbas quoted himself as having said at the March Arab League Summit in Libya.
"The evil Juice keep kicking our asses! We need some help!"
Arab cities in Judea and Samaria were "completely destroyed" in the Israeli counterterrorism operations that took place during the Oslo War (Second Intifada), Abbas told Arab League members. "We will not agree that it will be destroyed again," he said.
It might not matter what you agree to ...
Abbas quoted his own statements to the Arab League while in a meeting with the PA's ambassador to Jordan. The statements were used in explanation of his opposition to the approach taken by Hamas. Hamas pushes for "resistance" - a buzz word used by Arabs to refer to terrorism -- and refusal to negotiate with Israel.

"What we hear from everyone is that the basis is negotiations. At a time that the entire world agrees about this... We are unable to confront Israel militarily," Abbas told the PA envoy.
Surely the Paleo hard boyz who leap through hoops of fire could give an accounting of themselves ...
Abbas, who is serving his fifth term as head of the PA after unilaterally extending his term in office,
Don't let Hugo know that ...
has made several statements in recent years that have raised concerns as to his true intentions. In 2008, as Israel and the PA engaged in peace talks, Abbas told a Jordanian paper that he opposed terrorism "at present" but that "things may change."
His true intentions have always been clear -- death to the Juice and the destruction of Israel. He'd never have gotten to the leadership of the PA without that as a basic qualification. That he hasn't picked up a rifle and ran charging at the wall separating the West Bank from Israel only shows that he has a modicum of sense and a keen survival instinct. And, of course, a flair for hoodwinking gullible Westerners ...
In March 2010, the PA held a ceremony naming a main square in Ramallah for a terrorist who led a cell that murdered 37 Israelis. In June, a broadcast on official PA television referred to Jews as "our enemies" and to the entire state of Israel as "Palestine."

Earlier this week, Abbas eulogized terrorist Abu Daoud, the mastermind of the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre, calling him "one of the leading figures in Fatah."

Israel has officially referred to Abbas a "moderate" leader, as opposed to the leadership of Hamas, whose charter calls clearly for destroying Israel.
A moderate Paleo wants the destruction of Israel in two steps, rather than in one ...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/08/2010 15:14 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Didn't this A-hole just say he should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

It boggles my mind.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 16:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Israel should come out and loudly thank him, for "Joining with Israel and the Arab world in offering to fight Iran."

The hilarious chaos alone would be worth it.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/08/2010 16:19 Comments || Top||


Israel reveals Hizbullah positions
Hizbullah will likely fire close to 800 rockets into Israel every day during a future war, senior IDF officers said on Wednesday, as the Northern Command declassified for the first time evidence of Hizbullah’s growing presence inside close to 160 villages throughout southern Lebanon.

Hizbullah has an estimated 40,000 short-, medium- and long-range missiles.

In the maps unveiled by the IDF, Hizbullah weapons caches are shown approximately 50 meters from schools and hospitals. Storage and command centers are in most cases located inside or adjacent to civilian homes.
Using the village of el-Khiam – located about 4 km. north of the border – as an example, the IDF showed extensive footage, videos and maps of homes that Hizbullah has taken over and used to store weapons caches and establish command-and-control centers.
video at link
The declassified material also revealed the location of improvised explosive devices, some of them weighing up to half a ton, which Hizbullah has positioned, mostly at the entrance to the village.

The IDF recently dispatched a delegation to UN headquarters in New York to present the evidence to diplomats. The evidence was also presented to the new commander of UNIFIL, Maj.-Gen. Alberto Asarta Cuevas of Spain.

The IDF said that Hizbullah today maintains about 20,000 guerrilla fighters throughout southern Lebanon, whose main objective is to prevent an Israeli ground invasion. The fighters are also responsible for operating Hizbullah’s extensive missile capability, which would allow them to strike deep within Israel.

Hizbullah has an estimated 40,000 short-, medium- and long-range missiles.

The declassification of the material on Wednesday is a demonstration of the IDF’s penetration of Hizbullah and Israeli efforts to collect intelligence on the Iranian-backed Shi’ite terror group.

Hizbullah has split its forces into three divisions. The Southern Division, the IDF said, consists of 5,000 fighters and has approximately 30,000 missiles and rockets and a number of subdivisions. Each subdivision is responsible for approximately 15 villages. Each village contains between 20 and 200 fighters, hundreds of mortar shells, hundreds of short-and medium- range rockets, and a number of command centers.

In the maps unveiled by the IDF, Hizbullah weapons caches are shown approximately 50 meters from schools and hospitals. Storage and command centers are in most cases located inside or adjacent to civilian homes.

“It is important to show the world that Hizbullah has built up its military infrastructure inside villages, with the objective that we will kill the maximum amount of civilians in a future conflict,” a senior IDF officer said.

“We want to warn that if we are attacked by Hizbullah – this may happen.”

Hizbullah is believed to have established thousands of positions inside approximately 160 villages in southern Lebanon. Most of Hizbullah’s rockets have ranges under 100 km. but the group is believed to have long-range missiles – some of them the Syrian-made M600 – which have a range of about 300 km. and unprecedented accuracy.
Posted by: || 07/08/2010 05:04 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Free Latakia!
Posted by: Black Bart Shick7973 || 07/08/2010 7:04 Comments || Top||

#2  "It is important to show the world that Hizbullah has built up its military infrastructure inside villages, with the objective that we will kill the maximum amount of civilians in a future conflict," a senior IDF officer said.

Well the world is here, not in diplomatic closet. Mr.IDF officer as always PR dumb.
Posted by: Phosing Big Foot3926 || 07/08/2010 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe Israel should create the capacity to fire 8,000 rockets a day at the barbaric hordes.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 16:11 Comments || Top||

#4  I'mt tired of hearing this civilian bullshit. If they let them copme into their country and set up shop then oh well. sURE DOESN'T SEEM TO MEAN A DAMN WHEN A MUSLIM BOMBS A TRAIN OR BUS OR FLY A PLANBE INTO A BUILDING IN THE us OR gREAT bRITAIN. sORR ABOUT THE BACKWARDS CAPS i HVE BEEN DRINKING AND TOO,ATE TOO GO BACK.
Posted by: chris || 07/08/2010 22:29 Comments || Top||

#5  ummmm. the Caps lock button is on the left. don't infringe on Joe M's copyright, or do a helluva lot better effort, k?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 23:11 Comments || Top||

#6  i HVE BEEN DRINKING

Judging by the quality of most of your posts, that seems to be a permanent condition.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/08/2010 23:34 Comments || Top||

#7  i HVE BEEN DRINKING

And the cable went out, right?

Seriously, you're drinking and the only thing you can find to do is to post on an internet forum?
Posted by: badanov || 07/08/2010 23:42 Comments || Top||


Report: Abbas wants Nobel Prize
[Ma'an] President Mahmoud Abbas is trying to persuade the Nobel committee to award him the Peace Prize, Israeli media reported Wednesday.

Unnamed diplomatic sources in Oslo revealed Abbas has recruited mediators, including the PLO's Jerusalem affairs chief Ahmed Qrei'a, to convince the committee to grant him the prize, Israeli news site Ynet said.

Former recipients of the prestigious award include late Fatah leader Yasser Arafat, late Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, US President Barack Obama, and Israeli President Shimon Peres.

The names of nominees are kept secret for fifty years, so rumors pertaining to announce nominations are purely speculative.
Posted by: Fred || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  I'm sure he wants the check more than the prize.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 1:38 Comments || Top||

#2  The names of nominees are kept secret for fifty years

?????????????
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/08/2010 2:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Abbas wants Nobel Prize

Why not. I heard they started giving them away in early 2009.
Posted by: gorb || 07/08/2010 3:19 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm sure he wants the check more than the prize.

Maybe not. The prize would be a huge PR coup.
Posted by: lotp || 07/08/2010 5:24 Comments || Top||

#5  I had a thought similar to Gorb's - if Obama can get one for doing nothing, why not Abbas?
Posted by: Bobby || 07/08/2010 6:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Unlikely to happen. The US President needs another boost, this time the first year double, peace and economics. Next year peace and literature. Finally he retires the peace prize and begins to consider The Americas Cup and how shabbily they have treated people who lack racing yachts.
Posted by: Black Bart Shick7973 || 07/08/2010 7:13 Comments || Top||

#7  I hear they are giving away a Nobel Peace Prize with every purchase of a can Norwegian Mackerel. Suggest Abbas smuggle in a case so every member of the Fatah cabinet can have their own.
Posted by: ed || 07/08/2010 8:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Hell, I want the Nobel, I haven't done anything either so I qualify Just as much as Obama does
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 07/08/2010 17:37 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm still campaigning for Obama to win the Cy Young and the Heisman trophy, and I'm still hopeful.
Posted by: Grunter in Sydney || 07/08/2010 20:50 Comments || Top||

#10  awarded "most reliable communist" by J.D. Power and Associates
Posted by: Frank G || 07/08/2010 20:52 Comments || Top||

#11  The Nobel Prize has come to mean nothing. Yasser Arafat, Al Gore, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, The UN, Jimmy Carter. If this yoyo gets it, it will follow in the recent tradition of meaning nothing. In fact it will mean less than nothing.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/08/2010 22:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Forgot to include the ONE.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/08/2010 22:16 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Emirates ambassador calls for bombing Iran's nuclear program
In unusually blunt remarks, Ambassador Yousef al-Otaiba publicly endorsed the use of the military option for countering Iran's nuclear program, if sanctions fail to stop the country's quest for nuclear weapons.

"I think it's a cost-benefit analysis," al-Otaiba said. "I think despite the large amount of trade we do with Iran, which is close to $12 billion ... there will be consequences, there will be a backlash and there will be problems with people protesting and rioting and very unhappy that there is an outside force attacking a Muslim country; that is going to happen no matter what."

"If you are asking me, 'Am I willing to live with that versus living with a nuclear Iran?,' my answer is still the same: 'We cannot live with a nuclear Iran.' I am willing to absorb what takes place at the expense of the security of the U.A.E."
Posted by: Mike || 07/08/2010 10:19 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Mysterious plague outbreak among Syrian army
An outbreak of plague, which is considerd a potential bioweapon, among the Syrian military may be raising more questions than answers.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad recently ordered the shutdown of all Syrian military exercises due to a plague that currently affects a large number of military personnel, according to Examiner.com.

The Syrian president has told Syrian news sources that food and drinking water in military bases, coupled with one of the country's worst droughts in over 40 years, are responsible for the outbreak of plague.

Hundreds of thousands of Syrians are experiencing food shortages, nearly 60,000 small livestock owners have lost all their animals and 50,000 others have lost 50 to 60 percent of their cattle.

The infectious bacterium Yersinia pestis causes the infectious disease plague, which is commonly found worldwide in rats and other rodents. Fleas often serve as common vectors of plague. There are three forms of human plague - bubonic, septicemic and pneumonic.

Humans may also be infected by direct contact with an infected animal, through inhalation and, if it is pneumonic plague, by person to person contact.

Drinking water, food and a heat wave are not common causes of plague, Examiner.com says, unless they have increased the contact between humans and plague carriers. Because of this, the article says, questions should be raised about the true cause of the Syrian army plague.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Plague? Where are they getting the fleas on rats to spread the disease?
Posted by: gromky || 07/08/2010 0:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Fleas on the goat courtesans?
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 1:35 Comments || Top||

#3  reeks of "industrial accident".
Posted by: Woozle Thraque9030 || 07/08/2010 1:38 Comments || Top||

#4  We let the BIOWAR BOYZ play too much wid the TARGET/RADAR CONTROLS again, didn't we???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/08/2010 2:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Children should not play with matches.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/08/2010 2:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Could be a bioagent release.

OTOH during droughts when cattle etc. are dying fleas look for other hosts, and rodents may move closer to human areas bringing the plague with them.
Posted by: lotp || 07/08/2010 5:28 Comments || Top||

#7  If this were Israel's fault, they'd all be suffering from hemorrhoids.
1 Samuel 5:6
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/08/2010 6:04 Comments || Top||

#8  It wasn't from Debka, so it must be true...
Posted by: logi_cal || 07/08/2010 7:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Plague? Where are they getting the fleas on rats to spread the disease?

While Syria does have a clandestine chem/bio warfare capability, this could be innocent. In the US, bubonic plague is endemic to the dessert areas. During a drought it doesn't take much imagination to think animals migrate to the remaining water - and humans camping out in the dessert are an especially attractive source of liquids.
Posted by: ed || 07/08/2010 8:45 Comments || Top||

#10  Watch out for the cheesecake!
Posted by: 2sealys || 07/08/2010 9:31 Comments || Top||

#11  The US averages about 9 cases of plague every year, almost exclusively from rodent flea bites.

In Syria, the drought has likely stressed the rodent population, who leave their usual area in search of food, around humans. Then, when the rodents die, their fleas leave their bodies and go hunting for mammals to bite.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/08/2010 9:38 Comments || Top||

#12  A taste of things to come?

"With pestilence and with blood will I enter into judgment with him; and I will rain on him, and on his hordes, and on the many peoples who are with him, an overflowing shower, and great hailstones, fire, and sulfur." (God - Ezekiel 38:22)
Posted by: Mullah Lodabullah || 07/08/2010 11:04 Comments || Top||

#13  I understand the FBI has named Bruce Ivins a 'person of interest.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/08/2010 12:43 Comments || Top||

#14  I agree with the already mentioned causes of Plague spikes, but why does this outbreak sound to be contained within the Syrian military community? It could be that either they are handling bio-warfare munitions / systems, or it is a pre-cursor attack on the Syrian military. Who and why are speculation.

Or, more innocently, is the Syrian military involved in agricultural duties - is it harvesting season over there?
Posted by: Rob06 || 07/08/2010 13:19 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm sticking with fleas on the goat courtesans.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 07/08/2010 14:39 Comments || Top||

#16  Maybe some of Hussein's shipped WMD's are leaking in the Syrian warehouses.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 07/08/2010 14:51 Comments || Top||

#17  Doesn't say much for their military's hygiene or medical corps.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 07/08/2010 17:03 Comments || Top||

#18  Obviously the work of zionist spy squirrels.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 07/08/2010 18:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Originate in the deep part of the Bekaa range, where all those concrete tunnel entrances are?
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/08/2010 21:56 Comments || Top||


Erdogan sorry for Fadlallah's death
Turkish Prime Minister Recept Tayyip Erdogan called Hizbullah chief Hassan Nasrallah to give his condolences over the death of Hizbullah spiritual leader Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, Al-Manar reported on Wednesday.

"Erdogan gave his condolences and asked to relay them to Fadlallah's family and the Lebanese people," the Lebanese television station reported.

Al-Manar added that "Nasrallah responded by expressing appreciation for the telephone call, and for Erdogan's stance on the Palestinian issue."
Posted by: Snising Pholing8352 || 07/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Erdogan's problem is that he doesn't have enough real resons to feel sorry (and sore).
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/08/2010 2:51 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Ruling expected in Ahmad extradition case
The European Court of Human Rights is expected to rule Thursday on the extradition case of British terror suspect Babar Ahmad to the United States. If the court rules against Ahmad, he would be the first terror suspect to be extradited from Britain to the United States on terror charges since September 11, 2001.

Ahmad, 36, was indicted by the United States in October 2004 on charges of providing material support to terrorists, conspiracy and money laundering. If convicted, he could face a life prison sentence. Ahmad's case was the first to be handled under a new extradition agreement between Britain and the United States in 2003, which eliminated a requirement that the underlying evidence supporting the charges be presented in support of an extradition request.

The indictment against Ahmad, returned by a U.S. federal grand jury, accuses him of conspiring to provide support to terrorists, including helping to ship gas masks to the Taliban and using U.S.-based websites to raise money for Chechen leader Shamil Basayev. In addition to the conspiracy charge, Ahmad is charged with providing material support to terrorists; conspiracy to kill, kidnap or injure people in a foreign country; and money laundering. All of the charges except money laundering carry a possible life sentence; the money laundering charge carries up to 20 years in prison.

In addition, the indictment accuses Ahmad of maintaining several websites that posted messages saying "the best way of helping Jihad and the Mujahadeen is by actually going to the lands of Jihad and physically fighting. "The first and most important thing that Muslims can do in the West is to donate money," the websites state, according to an affidavit supporting his extradition.

It also allegedly directs readers to obtain firearms training and, where permissible, obtain an assault rifle. "Military training is an Islamic obligation, not an option."

The websites, according to the indictment, provided instruction for the surreptitious transfer of funds to the Chechen Mujahadeen and the Taliban, and instructions for travel to Pakistan and Afghanistan to fight with these groups.
Posted by: ryuge || 07/08/2010 02:56 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:



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