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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Qatar Airways pilot dies in flight
Assistant pilot takes control after captain dies while flying aircraft from Manila to Doha.
Ooh! Ooh! I seen dis movie!
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One reason to have co-pilots.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/14/2010 5:57 Comments || Top||

#2  A plane cannot land without human intervention, as it has to be set at the right speed and the flaps have to be set for the approach.

Unless, of course, it's a US-made drone...
Posted by: Bobby || 10/14/2010 5:59 Comments || Top||

#3  "Qatar Airways said in a statement that its priority "remains the comfort and safety of its passengers and staff"."

Of course, getting the aircraft back in one piece to re-use it is a big plus also......
(remember kiddies, any landing you can walk away from is a good one, if you can re-use the airplane its a great one)

Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/14/2010 13:59 Comments || Top||

#4  "A plane cannot land without human intervention, as it has to be set at the right speed and the flaps have to be set for the approach."

Now, wait a minute. I saw a made-for-TV movie back in the 1990's which show a modern jet landing itself after the flight crew died (it was on auto-pilot and something about the airport beacon caused it to know where/how to land). Dunno the name of the movie, but it starred Kate Jackson.

So it must be possible. The movies wouldn't lie, would they?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/14/2010 14:14 Comments || Top||

#5  I just finished editing a book of memoirs of military veterans who live at Air Force Village in San Antonio. One of the veterans included the story of an F-106 from the 71st Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Malmstrom AFB in the 60ies - the pilot went into a flat spin, during a two-plane mock-combat, and the pilot (according to the memoirist, who was in the other AC) bailed out at 15,000 feet ... and much to everyone's surprise, the AC recovered, and landed all by itself in a snow-field, where a very surprised local sheriff found it, at the edge of the field with the engines still running. So, it can happen - an AC in the right sort of flight path, landing by itself.
Posted by: Sgt.Mom || 10/14/2010 20:05 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Afghan Woman Recovered After a Nose Plastic Surgery
[Tolo News] Aisha, an Afghan woman whose nose and ear were cut by her husband, has recovered after a plastic surgery in the United States.

The Afghan woman who was taken to the United States by a charity institution is currently living the country's California state.

But there are many Afghan women who are the victims of such violence.

Shiba is another Afghan woman who was married to an old man when she was only 15. Her husband took her from Afghanistan's Paktia province to Zabul, and had cut her nose and ear.

Signs of torture were obvious in all parts of her body.

"My husband cut my nose first, and the next day he cut my ears and then he fiercely hit me in the mouth and broke my teeth," Shiba told TOLOnews reporter while she was weeping. The woman, who is currently sheltered in one of the safe houses in Kabul, wants justice.

Some women's rights activists have urged serious attention of the Afghan government and the aid organisations to help this woman.

"She can't breathe when she sleeps at night, and as far as we can, we will demand assistance from the government, the international community and the non-governmental organisations to help her," Noor Marjan, a female human rights activist told TOLOnews reporter.

The increasing violence against women has provoked concerns among women's rights organisations nationwide and all across the world.

Self-immolation, forced marriages, taking dowries in getting the girls married, not allowing female education, beating and the cutting of body parts are among the main forms of violence against women in Afghanistan.

Some women's rights organisations say insecurity and a lack of law enforcement are among the main causes of violence against women in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Never thought about a stiletto between the ribs?
Why not?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/14/2010 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  A few million single-shot pistols distributed to the women of Afghanistan would probably induce great social change there in short order.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/14/2010 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  its the religious women who conspire with the men to keep the situation as it is.

If the women were united then they could effect social change themselves.

It's the mothers of the men that help keep the wives and daughters down.

Just like in Africa, and the diaspora, it's the mothers who are the first to reach for the blunt knives to hack off the bits for FGM.

Yes men oppress women, but so do women.
Posted by: anon1 || 10/14/2010 5:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Such western intervention will undoubtedly inspire some to join the jihad, after all, such a medical gesture is an affront to Islam since she was to be a lesson to others.
Posted by: Jack Salami || 10/14/2010 9:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Some women's rights organisations say insecurity and a lack of law enforcement are among the main causes of violence against women in Afghanistan.

Is it just me, or is that a pretty fucked up thing for a women's rights org to say?

I think it my go a tad bit deeper than that.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 10/14/2010 11:58 Comments || Top||

#6  It's not just you, bigjim. >:-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/14/2010 12:37 Comments || Top||


Britain
Her Royal Majesty cancels Christmas bash due to hard times. GSTQ !
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 11:22 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe someone should send this artical to OBUMBLE??
Posted by: armyguy || 10/14/2010 11:43 Comments || Top||

#2  This is an example of leadership. He would dismiss it in short order.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 11:48 Comments || Top||

#3  What she should do is zero out prince chuckie's stipend and have a Christmas bash that is as offensive as all get-out to all muzz and druids...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/14/2010 14:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Ah yes, a Druid Winter Solstice Party: traditional highlite is to place all enemies in a large wicker basket shaped as a man - and then torch same. In the delicate words of J.V. Stalin: "No man, no problem!"
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 17:34 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Guam is hardened against attacks from China and the Norks
October 14, 2010: The American island of Guam is getting bomb proof shelters for aircraft, fuel and ammo supplies and vital equipment. Apparently believing that China and North Korea could, and under the right conditions, would, fire ballistic missiles, using conventional (non-nuclear) warheads, the concrete protection is being discreetly constructed on military bases. This hardening also provides protection against typhoons (Pacific hurricanes) and less frequent earthquakes.
Shelters only work when one gets into them ahead of time. Hard to do that with earthquakes...
This is all part of a larger construction effort. This is because the United States is in the process of moving 8,000 marines from Okinawa to Guam, which means new facilities to house these troops and their equipment. Existing facilities are also being refurbished and expanded at great expense (over $8 billion), a project that will continue for another three years.
Lots more info at link. Duck and cover, Joe!
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/14/2010 11:33 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  COME OUT OF RETIREMENT JOE. A LUCRATIVE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AWAITS YOU.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 11:46 Comments || Top||

#2  I think Joe's already signed up as a Code Talker.
Posted by: Gabby || 10/14/2010 11:57 Comments || Top||

#3  You don't need to harden *@#! if the other guy believes that not only do you have the means, but the will to wipe his *&^%! of the face of the earth if he even attempted an unwelcome delivery.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/14/2010 11:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Marines need something to guard.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 12:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah - if they try anything we're unleash the Joe on 'em.

That'll fix em!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/14/2010 13:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Wouldn't it just be easier to activate that capsize thingy and let the bad guys shoot at the tree roots and stuff?
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/14/2010 14:01 Comments || Top||

#7  The word "Guam" and the phrase "hardened against attacks" should not appear in close proximity. There's a danger of setting off the Global Bullshit Alarm...
Posted by: mojo || 10/14/2010 14:45 Comments || Top||

#8  This should have been considered prior to 12/07/41.
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 15:15 Comments || Top||

#9  Stux.net JoeM.net...
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2010 19:58 Comments || Top||

#10  More living quarters for brown tree snakes?
Posted by: Water Modem || 10/14/2010 21:16 Comments || Top||


Chinese elders call for free press
[Al Jazeera] Twenty-three senior members of the Chinese Communist Party have called on the government to lift the restrictions on freedom of speech in China.

In an open letter dated October 1, the members who earlier held senior positions either in the party or in government apparatus, pointed out that though the country's constitution guarantees freedom of speech, it is not allowed to be exercised.

The letter circulated online on October 11 comes days after Liu Xiaobo, an imprisoned Chinese dissident, was awarded this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

Liu, a 54-year-old literary critic, is now in the second year of an 11-year prison term after being convicted of inciting subversion over his role in writing an influential 2008 manifesto for political reform.

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Nicholas Bequelin, a China expert with Human Rights Watch, said that the Chinese elders have timed their call for more freedom of speech because of the publicity surrounding the jailed Xiaobo.

"It's not coincidental, they decided to go ahead and make this bold call for freedom of the press and freedom of expression precisely because all the attention is on Liu Xiaobo serving a prison term while he just received a Nobel Peace Prize."

China's government has denounced Liu's prize as an interference in its political and legal systems and warned that it would harm relations with Norway, where an independent committee presents the Nobel Peace Prize each year.

'Scandal'
The authors of the letter have said that China's current censorship policy is "a scandal in the history of democracy. Not even the nation's premier has freedom of publication".

It called on the National People's Congress, China's legislature, to abolish restrictions on publication.

"Our current system of censoring news and publications is 315 years behind Britain and 129 years behind France," the elders said in the letter.

China quite often implements unwritten rules and regulations on what can or cannot be published, but the final call is made by the Communist Party's shadowy central propaganda department.

Members of the department regularly notify editors about the topics that are taboo, usually by telephone to avoid leaving any documentary evidence, with the list changing constantly depending on events.
Posted by: Fred || 10/14/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  ION WAFF > {YouTube] CHINA MISSED ITS TENTH CENTURY INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.

* CHINESE MIL FORUM POSTER THREAD > CHINESE [may] COMPRISE AS MUSHC AS ONE-THIRD OF PANAMA'S POPULATION [5-6% to 1/3rd]: TIME TO DUMP TAWAIN + RECOGNIZE THE PRC [PRC = mainland China].

OTHER CMF POSTERS - GROWING GLOBAL CHINESE POPULATION WILL [eventually] CONTROL AUSTRALIA, INDONESIA, + PANAMA. NO need for China to wage major war as various Non-Chin ethnic groups are already unilaterally destroying themselves via low Birth Rates = Rates of Substitution-Replacement, thus all but absolut guaranteeing future Chin genetic conquest or dominance???

* CHINESE MIL FORUM > [Washington Times]CHINA + START: CHIN MISSLE BUILDUP MAY SURPASS BOTH USA, RUSSIA AS THEY [mutually or unilater]DENUCLEARIZE.

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > FOREIGN AFFAIRS: KEEPING THE PACIFIC PACIFIC: THE LOOMING US-CHINESE NAVAL RIVALRY.

VARIOUS PERTS > GUAM-WESTPAC may in future becom a MILPOL "NO-MANS-LAND" [Star-Trek style "Neutral Zone"] FOR THE US + CHINA.

COLD WAR "FULDA GAP".

A prob for RUSSIA as RISING CHINA does not see itself as a #2 behind the USA, nor a #3 behind the US + Russia, etc.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/14/2010 0:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Twenty-three senior members of the Chinese Communist Party have called on the government to lift the restrictions on freedom of speech in China.

Been done before. The Party tolerates no competition.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/14/2010 10:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm an elder in the U.S. I call for a free press in the United States. I have never seen such a bunch of agenda-driven garbage as comes out of the lamestream media.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/14/2010 15:41 Comments || Top||

#4  "Soon to be incarcerated" Chinese elders call for free press.
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 16:35 Comments || Top||


Economy
Atlas, Err.... Shrugs?
Evicted Family Breaks Into Their Former House
Lawyers V's Banksters, place your bets.
One of the long-shot outcomes of the current foreclosure mess could be a chaotic scenario in which people fight to get their foreclosed homes back.

Enter the Earl family in Simi Valley, Calif. Over the weekend, Jim and Danielle Earl reportedly took their nine children, ages 9-23, and a locksmith and broke into the six-bedroom house they used to call home. The move was recommended by their lawyer, according to a story on Aol's HousingWatch.com.

Police officers were on hand when the Earls changed the locks Saturday but did not intervene, the Ventura County Star reports.

The Earls paid $500,000 for the house in 2001 and then refinanced to pull out cash. They fell behind on their mortgage and at the time of their eviction they owed about $880,000 on a no-interest mortgage.

Investors at Conejo Capital bought the house for $697,000 at a lender's trustee sale and put $40,000 of work into a remodel, replacing carpeting and appliances, as well as upgrading the kitchen. They flipped it to new buyers for $800,000. Those buyers were supposed to move in this week; those plans are on hold.

The Earls claim that they were working with GRP Financial Services to catch up on payments, but discovered a $25,000 difference between what they believed they owed and what the bank said they owed. They then stopped making payments.
Posted by: tipper || 10/14/2010 15:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Insanity! Very, very predictable 2nd order effects,(in fact we all read it right here) INSANITY!
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 17:50 Comments || Top||

#2  So the Lawyer recommended that they violate the law (breaking and entering).

Don't lawyers get disbarred for that?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/14/2010 18:21 Comments || Top||

#3  "paid $500,000 for the house in 2001 and then refinanced to pull out cash"

Stop. Right. There.

Zero sympathy for them. They brought it on themselves.

And they had a no-interest mortgage? Since I pay my mortgage on time, can I have one of those? >:-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/14/2010 19:02 Comments || Top||

#4  > paid BORROWED $500,000 for the house in 2001 and then refinanced to pull out cash. They fell behind on their mortgage and at the time of their eviction they owed about $880,000

Zero Sympathy as foreclosure is a zero sum game. Somebody gets the house at a discount = GOOD!

Unnafordable (price/wage) Houses are the opposite of economic growth.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/14/2010 19:38 Comments || Top||


Osnabrück, Deutschland universität launches training for imams - Aypee nuus
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 00:29 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Trying to integrate Muslims into German society. Maybe there IS a Mohammed Luther equivalent there, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/14/2010 3:33 Comments || Top||

#2  The Osnabrueck imam training will cost the public euro300,000 ($418,000) to fund through 2013. Starting in 2012, the university is also going to offer a three-year bachelor degree program for imams. The university has long made religious instructions an academic focus and also offers Protestant and Catholic educational courses.

Two of those three courses admit women (albeit perhaps not as priests). I suppose NOW is lobbying the universität right now to admit women to the imam training program.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/14/2010 5:56 Comments || Top||



Home Front: Politix
Mafia-like group working largest-ever Medicare scam
I wonder how much CT scans figured into this.

(Yes, I'm serious!)

They busted dozens on this one. So far these folks were up to about $160M+.

Apparently when Armenians become criminals they take it very seriously.
Posted by: gorb || 10/14/2010 11:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A scam within a scam?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 11:42 Comments || Top||

#2  I beleive the death penalty would curb a lot of this....ya think??
Posted by: armyguy || 10/14/2010 11:46 Comments || Top||


Biden: Dems not running on accomplishments because ...
"It's just too hard to explain."
I can think of another reason the Dems aren't running on their accomplishments, but it includes the word denial and that always gets their panties in a bunch.

Click the link for furious handwaving, mountains of spaghetti logic, and copious amounts of double-speak.
Posted by: gorb || 10/14/2010 06:01 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I remember when, during the Reagan administration, the Democrats were running ads saying "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"

Maybe the Republicans should start running ads about "Are you better off than you were 2 years ago?"

Or better yet, just use the "Miss me yet?" ads with the picture of W.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/14/2010 7:38 Comments || Top||

#2  The query about "Are you better off, etc." is a good one. It'd be a great slogan. :-o
Posted by: PrivateEye || 10/14/2010 7:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Slow Joe Biden - the gift that keeps on giving, and possibly the dumbest, but self-unaware, VP ever
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2010 8:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe the Republicans should start running ads about "Are you better off than you were 2 years ago?"
I do not imagine the electorate being better off in 2 years, no matter what is done. We've all been dancing & carousing for decades, and the time has come to pay the piper and the barkeep, and the price will be very high. The slogan might work for the GOP this year, and would most likely work against the GOP in 2 years, just in time for the vote on 0's reelection. Best not go there. Best we could hope for from future politicians is that they work for the common good & do as little damage as possible, that would be a HUGE improvement over the current crop of mis/mal/&nonfeasants.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/14/2010 8:52 Comments || Top||

#5  OK, how 'bout this twist:

"Will you be better off two years from now?"
Posted by: gorb || 10/14/2010 9:38 Comments || Top||

#6  IIRC, "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" was Reagan's slogan when he ran against Carter in '80, and when he ran for reelection in '84. Worked both times.
Posted by: Mike || 10/14/2010 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Not running on accomplishments because there are none?
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/14/2010 10:53 Comments || Top||

#8  #7: Not running on accomplishments because there are none?

Probably too hard for him to spin what DID happen as positive accomplishments.
Posted by: Ptah || 10/14/2010 10:58 Comments || Top||

#9  The tactic is called a Muddle. It is a setup for 2012; an attempt to blur the distinction between D's and R's when the issue is big gov/small gov.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/14/2010 11:10 Comments || Top||

#10  sure they have lots of accomplishments - cap and trade, health care, trying to abolish don't ask don't tell...it's just that these accomplishments disagree w/over 70% of the population's opinion...
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/14/2010 13:57 Comments || Top||



Stop the presses! Robert Kennedy Jr. backs Crist for Senate
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/14/2010 00:53 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heard Squeaky's endorsement on TV. I had to hit the mute button because his voice is painful to listen to. He literally sounds like an 90 year old frail woman ready to fall over any moment now.

Does Crist think he's running in Massachusetts, and isn't there an actual Democrat running for Senate that clown could endorse? Racist!!!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 10/14/2010 4:45 Comments || Top||

#2  good strategy, Charlie. Get the Donks to force a legit black guy under the bus so a carpet-bagging unprincipled orange "man" can take the Donk line. Should kill black support/enthusiasm for a couple cycles
Posted by: Frank G || 10/14/2010 8:17 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Mankind will need two planets to support life by 2030, say scientists
MANKIND will need two planets to produce enough food, materials and water to sustain itself by 2030 if exploitation of the land and oceans continues at the present rate, scientists have warned.
And nine out of ten scientists say we should use Colgate to brush our teeth, or is that dentists?
It's dentists, and it's only "fluoridated toothpaste"; the brand they recommend depends on what they have in the way of free samples.
As delegates prepare to meet in Japan next Monday to agree to new targets to halt the loss of wildlife species worldwide, a report has found that mankind is plundering the earth's natural resources at 1.5 times the rate it can replace them.
They've made a Philosopher's Stone? Kewl!
The Living Planet Report, released every two years by the Zoological Society of London and the World Wide Fund and for Nature (WWF)
(of Himalyan Mountain thawing out by 2030 and the Amazon Rainforests turning into a desert..umm pretty soon fame)
said demand on natural resources has doubled since 1966.

Delegates from 190 countries are due to meet in Nagoya, Japan on Monday for two weeks to set new targets to stop the rapid loss of species and habitats around the world.
Two weeks? The catering is going to get a bit difficult by the end. There's only so many times one can eat steak and sushi before one tires of it, even if the cows were massaged daily by beautiful virgins.
The authors of the report studied 8000 populations of 2500 species and measured changes in land use and water consumption across the world.

They found that species in temperate regions were in a healthier state than at any time in the past 40 years.
Horrifying! Manolo, do be a dear and call the climate police.
However in the tropics the living planet index, a measure of the healthiness of a particular environment, fell by 60 percent since the 1960s.

David Nussbaum, chief executive of WWF-U.K. said: "We need a new green economy which assigns genuine value to the benefits we get from nature: biodiversity, the natural systems which provide goods and services like water, and ultimately our own wellbeing."
Posted by: tipper || 10/14/2010 13:38 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about one planet for these crypto-socialist know-it-alls to turn into a starving, arid waste.

Another planet for the rest of us...
Posted by: Free Radical || 10/14/2010 14:02 Comments || Top||

#2  How about we send all the green-socialist-weenies to Venus? I hear it is lovely this time of year.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/14/2010 14:17 Comments || Top||

#3  We could help save the planet by exterminating all attendees at the meeting.
Posted by: mojo || 10/14/2010 14:43 Comments || Top||

#4  I Use "Crest" when I feel rich.
I use "Aim" when I feel poor.

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Anyone else notice how the selection pf toothpaste is quite bewildering. IN th old day sit was Cogate or Pepsodent, period. Then the great "Crest" with ADA Recommendation revolutionized toothpaste. Now in 2010 the toothpaste isle is a veritable beastiary of labels and formulas,
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Why did Toothpowder die away? Mebbe we will all go back to backing soda one day...and clear another aisle for year-round Halloween Candy?
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 15:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Back on topic: I say make Pluto the most important site in Islam - and the subjects will hence move muy rapido. Bonus - its so dark they can do away with the burgua thing...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 15:12 Comments || Top||

#6  WWF you say?

This is the same organization which is claiming that Polar Bears are becoming extinct (reality: The Polar Bear population is at a all-time high).

And if we need another planet, well there is always Pandora right?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/14/2010 15:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Perhaps if all those inefficient Third World countries became efficient First World countries, the problem would solve itself. High rise apartment buildings free up a lot of land for farming, parks, and wilderness.

Toothpaste (something I actually know about):

1. There isn't much toothpowder about because it's a horrid way to clean your teeth -- highly abrasive, to the point of wearing away the hard enamel surface, leaving only the soft, cavity-prone dentin layer beneath... and not good at delivering fluoride, which needs to be dissolved in order for the ions to bind to the enamel where the calcium ions had fled. And given that a tube of toothpaste is good for three years unless stored on a sunny window sill, even the storage benefit of tooth powder is moot.

2. There are so many options because the market has been mature for several decades, which means a new flavour/benefit/brand can only acquire customers by cannibalizing from existing toothpaste users. Only significant add-ons can stand separately, like whitening strips, but I imagine they've lost some customers to the new whitening varieties of toothpaste, which work pretty well at destaining. Periodically the manufacturers try to reduce their SKUs (the various sizes/flavours/benefits that get a separate row on the store shelves), but then they come up a new flavour or benefit, and away we go again.

3. Baking soda upsets the pH in the mouth, which can lead to all sorts of problems if used long term; it's a very soft abrasive, so it isn't effective at removing bacteria and surface stains from teeth, ie "cleaning"; and, it doesn't contain fluoride so it doesn't repair the minor decay that eventually leads to cavities. I'd rather use a plain toothbrush, given a choice.

If you stock up on Crest at Walmart when it's on sale and you have a coupon, you won't ever have to buy Aim. At minimum I'd get the anti-tartar stuff, although I can personally vouch for Crest's sensitive teeth formula, should you have a need for such things.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/14/2010 15:58 Comments || Top||

#8  trailng wife: I truly thank you for your bountiful information. I'll also take up your suggestions re coupons, Walmart, and Crest. Thanks again, I learned a lot, and as an historian I doubly appreciate the info.
Posted by: borgboy || 10/14/2010 16:28 Comments || Top||

#9  borgboy, you're very welcome. I did a stint many years ago as a product development lab technician for a toothpaste manufacturer, and read up on the history of the field that was so briefly my own. I miss Gleem but, like cars, what we've got now is so much better.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/14/2010 17:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Ipana.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/14/2010 19:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Toms of Maine. Yeah, I'm probably a snob, but I like it, I really, really like it!
Posted by: Sgt.Mom || 10/14/2010 20:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Sounds like an arguement for genetically modified crops if you ask me. Not for a "green economy".
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/14/2010 22:29 Comments || Top||

#13  Two planets ... or one decent sized volcano or just your run of the mill epic famine.

Posted by: crosspatch || 10/14/2010 23:14 Comments || Top||



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