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Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi wants to leave Power
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Economy
Oil futures speculators get panties in wad over being exposed as scum
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Oil trading data that exposed the extensive positions speculators held in the run-up to record high prices in 2008 were intentionally leaked by Sen. Bernie Sanders, sparking 'harrumphing' by various elements of the Vampire Squid industry.

"The CFTC [Commodity Futures Trading Commission] has kept this information hidden from the American public for nearly three years," he said. "This is an outrage. The American people have a right to know exactly who caused gas prices to skyrocket in 2008 and who is causing them to spike today."

The leaked information has sparked concern at the CFTC, which is legally prohibited from releasing confidential information that identifies trader positions and identities.
However, members of Congress are not prohibited in any way from releasing information they obtain from CFTC in their course of their investigations.
"This type of incident will have a chilling effect on derivatives trading in the U.S." one of the usual propagandists was quoted as saying. GOP pols have raised concern that collection of data from hedge funds and banks may constitute a regulatory overreach, another expression of their commitment to allow the Vampire Squid industry to finish off wrecking the US economy while politicians on both sides do their utmost to distract the electorate with irrelevant issues in the never-ending re-election campaign, financed by contributions from Vampire Squids.
Remember kiddies, government regulations are EVIL unless & until they benefit the oligarchy. Review the economic definition of 'rent-seeking.'
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 13:28 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It'll just move all the trades off-shore. Somebody somewhere will offer a better deal for confidentiality.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/19/2011 14:55 Comments || Top||

#2  This is the usual blame the speculators nonsense from the economic illiterates.

Amongst other things, Speculators prevent physical shortages.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/19/2011 15:11 Comments || Top||

#3  However, members of Congress are not prohibited in any way from releasing information they obtain from CFTC in their course of their investigations.

No more than classified defense or security information sent to their favorite media outlet. Remember one man's source is just another special interest group's leak. Heh.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/19/2011 15:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Also note that futures speculation only matters in the spot market. The vast majority of oil is handled in enormous, fixed contracts with the major players, thus is significantly cheaper than the spot market, which only comes into play for those who aren't major players, or when the major players underestimate their needs. Which is why the major players spend so much time figuring out their needs to the barrel. And from there, the crude goes to the refineries who have taken fortune telling to a fine art, to figure out exactly how much gasoline, HHO, airplane fuel, etc. they are going to have to retool for.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/19/2011 15:57 Comments || Top||

#5  I would like to read explanations for the petro price bubble of 2008, from those who don't think speculation was the problem. Whatever it was, it sure as hell wasn't due to 'supply and demand.' "Drill everywhere" will not help government sponsored price manipulation.
The comparison of releasing this type of information to the release of security/defense info is absurd.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 16:07 Comments || Top||

#6  This is the usual blame the speculators nonsense from the economic illiterates. If so, why are the pigs squealing? Who benefits from Goldman Squid pushing & pulling money out of commodities? The regulation of commodities markets did not originate in a socialist plot.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 16:09 Comments || Top||

#7  IIRC, the price of petro paid by common consumers is determined by the 'spot price.' This does matter to a few million of us. Educate me if I'm wrong on this. Explain the 2008 petro price bubble.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 16:11 Comments || Top||

#8  It was mostly OPEC market manipulation.

Wikipedia has more
Posted by: phil_b || 08/19/2011 16:58 Comments || Top||

#9  The problem with oil/petrol is that supply and demand (absent OPEC manipulation) are relatively inelastic.

What this means is it is hard to increase supply and people keep buying petrol even when the price goes up.

So, in order to bring supply and demand into balance, prices spike up as they did in 2008.
Posted by: phil_b || 08/19/2011 17:10 Comments || Top||

#10  It seems like people such as Sanders and Soros are quoted a lot declaiming the evil 2008 oil speculators.

I almost always prefer to be on the opposite side of the fence from the commies.

Question: what caused the 2008 bubble to burst? It wasn't around for long...
Question 2: Should I care overmuch? The current oil prices are not speculative at all- it's the 'Arab Spring' or whatever you call it...
Posted by: Free Radical || 08/19/2011 18:04 Comments || Top||

#11  The 2008 collapse of the bubble matches too closely to the freeze of bank liquidity that prompted the panic that generated TARP. Had the agencies and institutions call margin as soon as the price hit 100, it would have had a similar effect. Instead we had to wait till the banking/investment system almost came to a full halt to watch it pop. When they couldn't get backing, gambling with other people's money, the game ended.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/19/2011 18:50 Comments || Top||

#12  > I would like to read explanations for the petro price bubble of 2008

A Simple Credit Bubble.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 08/19/2011 19:52 Comments || Top||

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This is the usual blame the speculators nonsense from the economic illiterates.


Thus Bernie "Marx" Sanders being the lead whiner.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 08/19/2011 20:45 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
I Am the True Embodiment of a Socialistic President
h/t gates of vienna
I am the true embodiment of a socialistic president;
My community organizing skills are eminently evident.
Weapons legal on our streets make shooting much too common;
Let’s sell them south to the Zetas so that they can shoot some lawmen.

I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters economical.
I understand a stimulus, both small and astronomical.
Billions spent to keep a failing auto maker steady;
And shovel-ready projects that are never shovel-ready.

And shovel-ready projects that are never shovel-ready.
And shovel-ready projects that are never shovel-ready.
And shovel-ready projects that are never shovel-ready.

My style of public speaking is deceptively transparent,
While its penchant to bamboozle is intrinsically inherent.
Since my dialectic skills are quite eminently evident,
I am the true embodiment of a socialistic president.

Since my dialectic skills are quite eminently evident,
I am the true embodiment of a socialistic president.

I know the mythic history of our socialist progression,
The overriding principle of federal intervention.
I know that life on welfare is a right and not an option;
And the public need not like a law, if I prefer adoption.

I understand the outlook of all modern PC-osophy
Equality of the working class and an added small apostrophe:
Of the many hues of bigotry that have worldwide come to light,
The only one that matters is the one that’s colored White.

The only one that matters is the one that’s colored White.
The only one that matters is the one that’s colored White.
The only one that matters is the one that’s colored White.

And I can form committees and full plenary commissions,
To offer me solutions which have no hope of fruition.
You can see by my creative ways of raising an impediment
That I’m the true embodiment of a socialistic president.

You can see by my creative ways of raising an impediment
That I’m the true embodiment of a socialistic president.

In less than three full years as your socialistic president,
I’ve taught the nation as a whole the joy of self-embarrassment.
Our allies of long-standing have been snubbed and denigrated;
For Stalinists and jihadists, we have kowtowed and prostrated.

Non-citizens flood in to us from somewhere ’neath our border.
And giving them the vote is really far, far out of order…
Unless, of course we show them that it’s good for them to vote for us
And an unsurpassed campaigner in a big, black eco-hostile bus.

And an unsurpassed campaigner in a big, black eco-hostile bus.
And an unsurpassed campaigner in a big, black eco-hostile bus.
And an unsurpassed campaigner in a big, black eco-hostile bus.

Now, while my skill at governing is obviously secondary,
My wielding of polemic thought is reputed legendary.
And since my dialectic skills are visibly pre-eminent,
I am the true embodiment of a socialistic president.

And since my dialectic skills are visibly pre-eminent,
I am the true embodiment of a socialistic president.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/19/2011 16:36 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  BRAVO
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/19/2011 20:12 Comments || Top||

#2  D *** NG IT, and to absolutely positively categorically undeniably, ....@etc. prove he is indeed a de facto "SOCIALIST" LEADER, IN TRUE SECULAR SCIENTIFIC LEFTY GUMPTION HE-WHOM-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED DOESN'T LABEL OR DESCRIBE HIMSELF AS "SOCIALIST" NOR OPENLY USES THE TERM "SOCIALIST" ANYWHERE, EVERYTIME???

Thank goodness thats cleared up.

It takes an ADOLF HITLER to openly publicly use the terms "Socialist" + "Socialism".

"OH, THE HUGE MANATEE(S)" OF DISCOURSE!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/19/2011 21:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Once again, Virginia, we learn why God invented RON PAUL to discuss how the DEBT DEAL is putting America = Amerika on the path of SOCIALISM + [beloved] SOCIALIST MASS DEBT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/19/2011 21:20 Comments || Top||

#4  I Am the True Embodiment of a Socialistic, Foodstamp President.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/19/2011 21:59 Comments || Top||


How's the War on Poverty Working? - Rangel: I Like to Dance a Little Sidestep


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 08/19/2011 10:32 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That woman is awesome. She put him straight up on his heels. That turd.

It truly was a smack-down.
Posted by: newc || 08/19/2011 14:18 Comments || Top||

#2  The impoverished seem to be winning at the moment.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 14:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Any investor who has confidence in the economy under the current misgovernance, needs to have his head examined.

Until the 2008 collapse, many companies set up mutual fund alternatives to employee savings. Those have all evaporated. And it was that type of institutional investment that drove post WW2 prosperity.
Posted by: Tyranysaurus the Younger6438 || 08/19/2011 15:41 Comments || Top||

#4  AH that's because the poverty stricken is the fastest growing segment of the population.
Posted by: AlanC || 08/19/2011 15:45 Comments || Top||

#5  I have great confidence in the market, that it's going to get worse and stay that way for years.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/19/2011 23:11 Comments || Top||



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Two weeks of WOT
Fri 2011-08-19
  Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi wants to leave Power
Thu 2011-08-18
  Dozens reported hurt in 3-stage terror attack near Eilat
Wed 2011-08-17
  Libya rebels see victory by end of month
Tue 2011-08-16
  Libyan rebels push to isolate Tripoli
Mon 2011-08-15
  Medvedev signs order backing Libyan rebels
Sun 2011-08-14
  Tripoli Denies Rebel Capture of Western Port Town
Sat 2011-08-13
  'Cholera epidemic spreading in Somalia'
Fri 2011-08-12
  Two Hariri Murder Suspects Linked to Murr, Hamadeh, Chidiac, Hawi Cases
Thu 2011-08-11
  US drone strike kills 21 in north Wazoo
Wed 2011-08-10
  Yemeni president 'to return home'
Tue 2011-08-09
  London set for third night of riots
Mon 2011-08-08
  215 Arrested in London Riots
Sun 2011-08-07
  Yemen president leaves hospital but to stay in Saudi
Sat 2011-08-06
  38 dead as NATO helicopter crashes in Afghanistan
Fri 2011-08-05
  Turkey Seizes Iranian Arms Smuggled to Syria, Hizbullah


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