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-Short Attention Span Theater-
nothin like small town journalism
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/08/2004 18:20 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the MSM had any brains, they'd have run this sort of stuff during the election.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/08/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||


Bigger and Bolder Population of Bears Incites Fear in Japan
by James Brooke, New York Times
EFL, LRR; hat tip to the Brothers Judd.
"Bear Injures 3 in Kimono Shop," screamed one headline. "Five Elderly People Injured in Bear Attacks in Three Prefectures," read another. "Japan to Conduct Emergency Survey on Rash of Bear Attacks," Kyodo News wrote, citing a government tally of one person killed and more than 90 injured by bears since April. This fall, rural Japan, with its aging, shrinking population, is peering with increasing nervousness into the deep, dark woods. A bear population that is expanding in numbers and range, increasingly cranky after a record number of typhoons have ruined the acorn harvest, is glaring back.
Typhoons make me cranky, too, especially when they mess up the acorn harvest.
"These bears are of the new type, they are not scared of people," said Hajime Nakagawa, director of the Shiretoko Museum here, which displays several stuffed brown bears, their sleek coats evoking a diet rich from hunting salmon and trout in mountain streams and lakes. The Shiretoko Peninsula - the name means "end of the earth" in the local Ainu language - is one of Japan's rare patches of wilderness. Because the peninsula is north of a Russian nature reserve, some Japanese contend that the thuggish bears that steal apples and maul farmers are illegal immigrants who paddled here from Russia, across an icy finger of the Sea of Okhotsk. . . .
"Durned illegal aliens!"
. . . For Japan, a country rarely associated with wilderness and wildlife, the new bear-human ballet is playing out intensely here in Shari, a coastal tourist village on the edge of Shiretoko National Park. . . . Hunting was banned in the park in 1982, giving birth to "a generation of bears that does not fear people," Mr. Nakagawa, a biologist, said. Today, this 188-square-mile park, on the northern tip of Japan's northernmost main island, Hokkaido, has one of the world's densest bear populations, about one bear per square mile. . . .
It's a cliche, I know, but the question still must be asked: Bears, why do they eat us?
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2004 12:31:13 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hope the Russians didn't give them the clothes hanger secrets.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#2  the new bear-human ballet

Damn! They're dancing bears, too!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/08/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Bear-san--Why do you hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 11/08/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Wait for the movie Godzilla Meets Smokie
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||

#5  One final B-29 attack outta do the trick...
Posted by: borgboy || 11/08/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#6  "Bear Injures 3 in Kimono Shop," screamed one headline.

Wrong place to be looking for food....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/08/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||


French cockerel isn’t NECESSARILY dying out
Scientists have taken action to save France's feathered national emblem, le coq gaulois, by cryogenically preserving the endangered cockerel's sperm. Panic set in when it was disclosed that only 200 individuals remained, mostly owned by amateur breeders. The brightly coloured cockerel, one of France's oldest native animal species, is synonymous with French fighting spirit — at times arrogance — and is famously unleashed on to the football pitch before games involving the national side. Due to a semantic crossover, the Latin word gallus means both cockerel and Gaul and it has come to stand as a symbol of France's distant ancestors.

Scientists at the national agronomic research institute, Inra, have spent two years on a bird hunt for the last surviving individuals from the dying breed. They concluded that the safest way to avert its extinction was to create a "brave new bird world" by preserving the cockerel's genetic heritage using the latest cryogenic technology. "We took their eggs, vaccinated them, then brought up the chicks," said Elisabeth Blesbois, a scientist at Inra. "Then we removed their sperm and froze it at minus 196 degrees. We can now reconstitute the bird line if it encounters problems, such as an epidemic. By successive cross-breeding with regular hens, we can bring the race back from the brink in just a few years." Beside its symbolic qualities, the French cockerel is sought after for its brilliant red and gold plumage. But connoisseurs say its taste is disappointing.
absolutely no comment LOL
Posted by: too true || 11/08/2004 9:37:47 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...is synonymous with French fighting spirit

It's just endangered? I figured it was extinct.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Only 200 left you say? How fitting a symbol for postmodern Europe.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2004 11:28 Comments || Top||

#3  "But connoisseurs say its taste is disappointing"
So, does it go for deep shag carpets, paintings of big-eyed children in heavy gold frames, and ball-fringe on the lampshades, or just loud plaid suits... that kind of disappointing taste?
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 11/08/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#4  The French symbol is a chicken? How appropriate.
Posted by: someone || 11/08/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#5  a special chicken - an arrogant one
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 12:38 Comments || Top||

#6  I recall our buddy Mucki was born in the Year of the Chicken, I wonder if he has anything to add.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#7  figures
Posted by: raptor || 11/08/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#8  It tastes like rattlesnake?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:09 Comments || Top||


Serbian chefs go for testicles
They're great on soup, too.
Specialist cooks from around the world have gathered in Serbia for the World Testicle Cooking Championship. Testicles are regarded as a gourmet delicacy in Serbia and the country is hoping to develop an export market. The championship was organised by Ljubomir Erovic, of the Serbian Tourism Board, as a way of promoting the dish. He said: "The best cooked balls come from Serbia and we wanted to stage this contest to show the world what great dishes can be cooked using testicles, which are known locally here as mountain oysters white kidneys."

Serbian daily newspaper Glas Javnosti said the contest in the village of Savinac, close to town of Gornji Milanovac, was won by gourmet testicle chef Dejan Milovanovic from Belgrade. His specialist dish prepared using testicles from a bull and a boar beat off challengers from around the world, who cooked their way through more than 20 kilos of prepared testicles. Milovanovic added: "Testicles are becoming more popular in Belgrade and we hope that more restaurants will offer this local speciality now that they see what tasty dishes can be created." Next year the event will include an 'exotic testicles' section where chefs will have to come up with a dish using camel and ostrich testicles. Organiser Erovic said: "All testicles can be eaten, except human of course - we don't want any cannibals here."
Posted by: tipper || 11/08/2004 10:28:13 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't think I'll be eating at any Serbian restaurants any time soon.
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#2  As Ole Euel Gibbons use to say..."Reminds you of the taste of wiillld hickory nuts!!"
Posted by: smn || 11/08/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I'll bet Fred would like a Serbian ball recipe.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#4  His specialist dish prepared using testicles from a bull and a boar beat off challengers from around the world

*rimshot*
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe the Serbs get them wholesale from France since the French obviously have no use for testicles.
Posted by: RWV || 11/08/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  At the Cattlemen's Restaurant in Fort Worth, they're known as calf fries or lamb fries depending on the source.
Posted by: RWV || 11/08/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Put down the teabag, Frank...
Posted by: mojo || 11/08/2004 16:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Are the testicles removed first?
Posted by: Weird Al || 11/08/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#9  There was once a sheep farmer who had a French farm hand working with him to help castrate his sheep. As the farmer castrated the sheep, the French farm hand took the parts and was about to throw them into the trash.

"No!" yelled the farmer, "Don't throw those away! My wife fries them up and we eat them, they're delicious! They're called Sheep Fries!"

The farm hand saved the parts and took them to the farmer's wife who cooked them up for supper. This went on for three days . . . and each evening they had Sheep Fries for supper.

On the fourth night the farmer came in to the house for supper. He asked his wife where the farm hand was and she replied, "It's the strangest thing! When he came in and asked what was for supper, I told him French Fries and he ran like hell!"
Posted by: SC88 || 11/08/2004 23:07 Comments || Top||

#10  [meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="2; URL=http://www.ogrish.com"> Can You Handle Life?????????

Posted by: Assalickum Salamisuckin || 11/08/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#11  [meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="2; URL=http://www.ogrish.com"> Can You Handle Life?????????

Posted by: Assalickum Salamisuckin || 11/08/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Magnitude 6.6 - TAIWAN REGION
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/08/2004 12:18 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Marine kept me alive, says survivor
A survivor of the Berkshire train crash wept as she spoke of her lucky escape. Passenger Sharmin Bacchus, 37, was kept alive by a mystery marine known only as Tom after a section of the train crushed her. She said she had only found out the extent of the disaster later. Ms Bacchus said: "I didn't think anyone had died. I couldn't believe it. I just realised how lucky I was." She said she did not think the full impact of the tragedy had sunk in yet but added: "I'd be happy if I just didn't ever have to think about it again."

She suffered cracked ribs, a cracked pelvis and bruising after she was flung across the carriage and pinned to the ground by a piece of the train which covered the area from her chest to her thighs. Describing what happened, she said: "I was just putting my book away and I was standing in the bar area in the buffet and the train appeared to move sideways and I was flung quite far back and bashed my head." She said she was lying face down and could not move or say anything and does not remember much more until Tom came along. She said that the marine, to whom she has since spoken again on the telephone, saved her life. She said: "He was asking my name and talking to me. I felt as if he had known me for ages because he talked to me quite nicely when I needed and when I was going, he was shouting at me. He kept squeezing my hand and making me squeeze his. He kept me alive."
Posted by: tipper || 11/08/2004 10:32:21 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ms Bacchus, caught up in a train wreck. Saved by an anonymous soldier. She'll be able to party again. Metaphor, anyone?!
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/08/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||


Europe
France means "chicken"
This is from the anti-idiotarian rottweiler's site. Explains it all, the money graf is this:

...The brightly coloured cockerel, one of France's oldest native animal species, is synonymous with French fighting spirit — at times arrogance — and is famously unleashed on to the football pitch before games involving the national side. Due to a semantic crossover, the Latin word gallus means both cockerel and Gaul and it has come to stand as a symbol of France's distant ancestors....
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 11:15:04 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I knew I should have scrolled down before I posted.

Check out the posting about a Darwin award winner from Nancy, France.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Boy, am I glad Franklin and his turkey bird was overridden.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#3  We do chickens right.
Posted by: Col H Sanders KNG Deep Fat Brigade || 11/08/2004 13:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Barbra Quotes Thomas Jefferson: Patience
Someone on her numerous staff must've found a Bartlett's
Posted on November 8, 2004
In response to the results of the Presidential election last week, I would like to share with you a quote from Thomas Jefferson. Although written in 1798, I feel his words speak perfectly to the strong sentiments of frustration and disappointment 48% of the country feel.

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt......If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."
HT - Drudge - I don't have the stomach to visit the dipshit's site
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 8:33:21 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Low stakes game for the Dems.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||

#2  (O God, please make Howard Dean the DNC Chairman... the 2006 election will be like clubbing baby seals.)
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#3  In the words of Laura Ingraham, Babes needs to "shut up and sing".
Posted by: AF Lady || 11/08/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Bobbing for quotes again, are we, eh?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||

#5  God! What a DOUCHEBAG!!!
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson || 11/08/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Notice she skipped over the part about which areas he was talking:
"If to rid ourselves of the present rule of Massachusetts and Connecticut, we break the Union, will the evil stop there?"
The quote is reversed. It could have applied better if Kerry had won.
Posted by: Urako || 11/08/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||

#7  To quote the man in the picture:

"The only thing more dangerous than ignorance is arrogance."

And to quote a recent novel:

"And I would suggest that the combination of the two is even more dangerous".
Posted by: Uleque Ulolurong1864 || 11/08/2004 23:15 Comments || Top||


Yet more proof that the Dems just don't get it
Former presidential candidate Howard Dean is considering a bid to become chairman of the national Democratic Party. Steve Grossman, himself a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said Dean had told him he was thinking about it.
Oh please, please, please, let this happen.
Yeeeaaaggghhhh!
Posted by: AzCat || 11/08/2004 8:17:47 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If Howard Dean becomes DNC Chairman, I will take it as absolute, final, irrefutable proof not only that there is a Supreme Being, but that He has one helluva sense of humor, as well.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 20:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Where do we send contributions?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 20:55 Comments || Top||

#3  there's no way he could do worse than Terry McAwful, but I'd love to see him try
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 21:14 Comments || Top||

#4  It is absolutely amazing how the Dem boat has a hole in it, and rather than bail and plug the hole, the Dems look around for a new captain.

Hell, you can have the best captain in the universe (and beyond) but if you do not fix the hole, the boat will sink.

[/classified information] heh heh.....Hahahahaha!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#5  JFnK: "I skipperd a boat in Viet Nam, did you know that?"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 21:35 Comments || Top||

#6  "It is absolutely amazing how the Dem boat has a hole in it, and rather than bail and plug the hole, the Dems look around for a new captain."

Hell, it looks like they've decided the way to fix the hole is with a drill.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#7  This is one of the last guys the Dems need yet their self inflicted blood letting will go on. And it really does distress me. As the party of my youth I still feel a certain affection for them and as I have achieved my 5th decade I see that they really don't have all of the answers (neither do the Pubs, that is why I am the most hated/courted voter of all,the true independent) The Dems lost their way in the wilderness during the '60s and they are not yet done with their 40 years of wandering. But it is close. I can see them losing one more presidential election and then they will find their way back to their roots and try to go back to representing the average American. Unfortunately the Pubs will already be there. And it is unfortunate, because if the Dems fail to resurrect themselves and vanish they will most likey be replace by an extreme party of one sort of another
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/08/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||

#8  As someone who was in high school through most of Reagan's second term I've never understood the attraction of the Democratic party. To me they've always been anti-business, anti-military, and anti-middle class. I have no memory of mainstream Democrats advocating anything other than higher taxes, a smaller military, and ever-expanding dependence on the government. Looking back, it seems to me that modern Democrats are essentially leftist socialists and that W has roughly the same policy ideals as JFK.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/08/2004 21:56 Comments || Top||


San Francisco in No Mood for Tolerance After Bush Win
These people just don't know what to do...
The summer of love has given way to the autumn of fear in San Francisco, a liberal stronghold where residents bitterly disappointed by the Bush victory are in no mood to reach out and mend divisions.
Their new motto: "Tolerance: On OUR Terms."
Rather, they are waving "United States of Canada" maps, redrawn to show Canada extending down to include California, New England and the other so-called "blue states" that voted decisively for Massachusetts Democratic Sen. John Kerry in the U.S. presidential race. Some are canceling plans to travel to neighboring "red states," where Bush drew most of his support. They are asking serious questions about the future of American democracy. And the usual post-election bravado about moving out of the country when a favored candidate loses is sounding different this year. It sounds a lot more serious.
So what's stopping them? The airport's right over there. Flight's leaving hourly. Trains, planes, automobiles. Canada's not going anywhere.
"I'm going in on Monday and getting a new passport," said an electronics technician and volunteer at the Green Festival environmental conference who requested anonymity. "I'm not leaving yet, but I'm getting prepared," he said. "I can imagine that this country is going to get a lot worse before it gets better."
He's getting prepared. Probably requested anonymity so Karl Rove's Thought Police don't round him up and take him to one of "The Camps".
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2004 1:49:36 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heh. I live in the Bay Area and less than 10 minutes after I left my home the morning after the election I overheard a group of people (who were glancing around nervously as if they expected Karl Rove and John Ashcroft to jump out from behind a hedge and drag them away) discussing in hushed tones their horror at the election results and the fact that they were all moving to Canada. I gave them a few of my business cards and told them to call if they needed help finding a good immigration lawyer.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/08/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#2  My very-blue-state mother-in-law, an NYT and Michael Moore fan, was over this weekend. She told me that I need to act more purple-state than red-state. She didn't offer to change herself, of course. I told her that I was feeling very red, in fact Texan red. Not another word on politics was spoken. You know what? These people are too full of themselves to even admit they are a minority. They lost, so we're supposed to come half way to their side. If that isn't a bunch of ultra-liberal, U.N., Chirac crap I don't know what is. Give 'em passports quick, before they change their minds.
Posted by: Tom || 11/08/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#3  I bet Ron Schmidt's relatives are very relieved to hear that they will not have to listen to his Hate speech against Bush anymore.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/08/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#4  I am so enjoying this.
Posted by: Matt || 11/08/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#5  To hell with Canada! Point them SouthEast and give them Water Wings (left side only)! I bet Castro can give them a nice big group hug.
Posted by: 98zulu || 11/08/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Ditto Matt; I've lived around the morons for years. Their tears are like sweet, sweet wine to me.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/08/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Well now. Doesn’t this guy sound like Mr. Total Asshole?

The story did say he works in Public Relations.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/08/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Somebody tell Genius-boy that you don't need a passport to go to Canada. Or Costa Rica, for that matter.
Posted by: mojo || 11/08/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#9  The ideologies of the two parties are too different. I don’t see how healing can take place.

What this guy's saying is that he absolutely refuses to compromise with anyone.

Which party was supposed to be the intolerant one? I keep getting confused.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/08/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#10  These guys only lost by 3%. If they are going this overboard about it, they must not have much confidence that they can ever get that elusive 4% of voters to vote for them ever again.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#11  R.C The same party which is supposed to be the most racist.

(FYI for those who may not know... - The Republicans were for the Civil Rights Act of the 60's - Democrats were mostly against, and most KKK members were (guess....) Southern Democrats... Lincoln (who signed the Emancipation(sp?) Proclamation and freed all the Southern slaves) was a Republician).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/08/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#12  I dunno. I'm enjoying this like Matt and others, but Thanksgiving is coming up-- and I'm invited to my brother's place. He and his wife are matching LLL versions of Archie Bunker: ignorant as a bag of wood chips, and opinionated as Hell. Bro's favorite conversational gambit is to make some outrageous comment on one of his bugaboos (like John "Ashkkkroft") and then say, "but let's not argue about politics, OK?"

He pulls that crap again, I'm gonna end up having Thanksgiving dinner at a rest stop on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Like most things in the newspaper, this is exaggerated. I am a San Franciscan, working downtown, and I haven't seen any depression or public wailing, and the private sort has been more along the lines of the disappointment about the Niners season.
Posted by: buwaya || 11/08/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#14  That's too bad. I was hoping for Jonestown redux.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 15:28 Comments || Top||

#15  It's Reuters so a large bit of salt with their opinion. They would only be to happy to stress division as wider than they are. That said San Fran has some pretty tiny minority of folk this wacked out someplace just because they have lots of wacked out people.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/08/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#16  As I posted before the election, these people only believe in democracy as in The Peoples Democratic Republic. Name with no substance, just the exercise of power. They're panicing because for decades they've strip the states of their powers and differences and installed a strong overbearing central government out of DC. Now that the power has shifted, they're discovering that was not a good idea because they're projecting what they'd do to us with the power expecting us now to do to them.
Posted by: Don || 11/08/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#17  I live in Red California and I think I speak for the other Red counties when I say: "SO LONG SUCKERS!"
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/08/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#18  Amen, CS
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 16:36 Comments || Top||

#19  We need to take this opportunity to suggest that the leftists look into federalism. If they would join the effort to reduce the powers of central government (so they focus on their own state's interventionism) we'd all be better off. Maybe they'll stop trying to impose their views on the rest of the country.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#20  I live in the Bay Area and just laugh at these people. They so do not get it.
Posted by: remote man || 11/08/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#21  Dave D., Your brother's side lost. No need to get upset at him... now that liberal views aren't a threat (at least for 4 more years) we can all just laugh at them the way god intended ;)
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/08/2004 18:38 Comments || Top||

#22  Don, You NAILED it. Projecting is a liberal disease. The call us nazis and thought Bush would cancel elections because they know if they had the power that is EXACTLY what they would do.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/08/2004 18:40 Comments || Top||

#23  Just about every county in the U.S. of A. was red. Only a few blue areas even in CA. I have trouble not walking around with a big shit-eating grin and gloating. I'll have to remember to be humble in a damn good win--er ah some other time. I'm having too much fun!
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 11/08/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#24  What are these idiots waiting for? Get out, already. Please please please leave so coastal real estate can become affordable again. And maybe the exodus will finally persuade Washington to get serious about relaxing immigration restrictions for anyone with a hard science PhD. Lose the idiots, bring in the strivers.
Posted by: lex || 11/08/2004 19:05 Comments || Top||

#25  "Why should we believe we will ever have another fair election in this country?"

What a terrible, terrible thing when a majority of the population "steals" an election . . . 8-P
Posted by: gp || 11/08/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||

#26  "Dave D., Your brother's side lost. No need to get upset at him..."

Heh... no worry there, DPA: I'm a compassionate conservative. The real problem is, Bro is a REAL sore loser and doesn't have the world's best impulse control. I'll just have to keep a close eye on him, alert for early warning signs; when he's ready to explode, his face always turns beet red.

"Projecting is a liberal disease."

Other disease symptoms I've noticed:
  • thinking in terms of straw-man arguments-- the logic may be sound, but the premise is utterly delusional (anyone else notice LLLs doing this?);
  • magical thinking, as with small children, wherein they keep doing [X] over and over, expecting result [Y], but [Y] never actually happens;
  • existing in a state of belief (as with Muslim fanatics) instead of in a "scientific" frame of mind involving observation, hypothesis testing and modification, etc.; and
  • "loony logic", wherein arguments are framed as "If [A], then why not [B]?" even though there is no causal or other logical connection between [A] or [B].
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||

#27  Dave, there is always conflict resolution, anger management, and sensitivity training for your Bro.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 11/08/2004 19:37 Comments || Top||

#28  It would also help if he'd stop getting all his news from CBS. He's one of those who sit and watch Dan Rather for 30 minutes a day and thinks he knows everything that's going on in the world.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||

#29  Dave, there are a lot of folks like your Bro. Need to be the compasssionate conservative. Some are in my family too. There is a kind of naivete that ignores that the jihadists are dedicated to killing us. This is a war of survival for the West.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 11/08/2004 19:46 Comments || Top||

#30  Having a state of the world conversation with a couple of knee-jerk anti-Bushites in the pub tonight; neither had heard anything about the van Gogh murder. The media remains very influential in terms of what it does, and does not, choose to cover.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/08/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||

#31  Someone please help me: ever since last Tuesday I've had the theme from "Patton" running through my head and it just won't stop.
Posted by: Matt || 11/08/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||

#32  Aye; I find it very difficult talking about current events with people whose only source of news is the tube or dead-tree publications. Most of the time, they don't even know what you're talking about.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||

#33  Ummm... try Born Free instead?
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 20:08 Comments || Top||

#34  Well, this just goes to show that all these people think about is themselves. There is no love of country here. They are not going to stick it out and work for a change. If the country will not bend to their model the hell with it because they are out of here. All I can say is if things had worked out differently I was not going to go anywhere. I would have stayed right here and fought like hell to change things at the next election.

Oh well, I hope they enjoy the weather up there in Canada. They do know how much colder it gets up there don't they?

Matt
Posted by: Crerert Ebbeting3481 || 11/08/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||


CBS Will Act More Harshly Towards 60 Minutes II Document Perps Since GWB Reelected
Hat Tip DRUDGE
Players involved in the notorious 60 Minutes II story, reported by Dan Rather, which employed dubious documents regarding President Bush's National Guard service, may have been rooting for a John Kerry victory.
I hear the knocking - knock knock knock - Dan Rather
No, it wasn't that old bugaboo liberal media bias as much as it was a bias toward saving their own skins. The report from an internal investigation into the documents mess was purposely being held until after the election.
Yes, they didn't want the investigation to "influence" the election.
Apology? No no no - Dan Rather
Pre-election, the feeling in some quarters at CBS was that if Kerry triumphed, fallout from the investigation would be relatively minimal. The controversial piece's producer, Mary Mapes, would likely be suspended or fired, but a long list of others up the chain of command—from 60 Minutes II executive producer Josh Howard, to Rather and all the way up to news division President Andrew Heyward—would escape more or less unscathed.
Kenneth. What's the frequency? - Infamous Mugger
But now, faced with four more years of President Bush, executives at CBS parent Viacom could take a harder line on the executives involved.
We want to keep important press credentials, and not be lumped in with "National Enquirer" and "Midnight Globe" - CBS
Too late...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2004 1:43:33 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe CBS should just worry about telling the public the truth. Oh wait -- what am I saying?
Posted by: Matt || 11/08/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Given felonies are involved, shouldn't it be the FBI investigating this, not the media?
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/08/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Silentbrick - The obvious escapes the politically challenged...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  ban them from press conferences if they don't clean up their act on their own - think "Helen Thomas"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#5  CBS (and the other MSM) will have to do a damn good housecleaning to get back in my good graces (and I think the graces of a lot of people). From the CEO and the entire executive staff on down. They are in dire need of some blood younger then 80 anyway.

And Maples and Rather should be fired - not allowed to 'retire' or 'resign' but outright fired. As in 'Follow these armed guards and meet your shit at the back door' fired.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/08/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#6  "Dan? Could you come to the office, and bring everything in your desk?..."
Posted by: mojo || 11/08/2004 15:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah, issuance of strongly worded memos...
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#8  Ah, issuance of strongly worded memos

typed on a 70's typewriter, using MS Word
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#9  The assumption is that the network cares. If they have taken a strategic view that treats open broadcast television like radio with programs directed at specific audiences rather than general ones, then CBS/Viacom may just toss the 53% of America off their corporate radar. Whether that sells in the short term with the stockholders is up in the air, but given the steady erosion of viewship anyway over the past decade, it may be the game plan. Otherwise, why haven't they tossed Dan long ago for not getting rating points up from the basement.
Posted by: Don || 11/08/2004 16:18 Comments || Top||

#10  Frank G: "Helen Thomas"

If only Thomas Jefferson had banned her right at the outset...
Posted by: eLarson || 11/08/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#11  lol e larson!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 21:26 Comments || Top||


Despite Drop in Crime, an Increase in Inmates
The number of inmates in state and federal prisons rose 2.1 percent last year, even as violent crime and property crime fell, according to a study by the Justice Department released yesterday.
The NYT can't seem to make a connection, can they? Rest at the link.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/08/2004 12:06:38 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh come on. Only an idiot thinks you could reduce violent crime by locking up violent criminals!
Posted by: Lib Earl || 11/08/2004 6:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Troll, troll, troll your boat...
Posted by: gromky || 11/08/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  There's a hidden factor, here. The impact of legalized abortion on crime (see URL). Since not just the number of *crimes* is in decline, but the number of *criminals* is also in decline, the "lockup" percentages are actually magnified.
http://repositories.cdlib.org/blewp/10/
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/08/2004 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Effect, meet cause.
Posted by: BH || 11/08/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  BH : It's officially called Newton's third law...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2004 13:07 Comments || Top||

#6  the same NYTimes that lectures the "ignoranti" in the red states doesn't get why jailing more criminals for longer times reduces crime...who's stupid?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#7  I feel contempt for the NYT.

There. I've said it.

Moral degenerates. For each social-political issue of the day, there is a wrong side, and the NYT manages to almost ALWAYS be there.

What will it take to sink them?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
NYT goes over the edge
Via LGF:
A LITTLE more than a month before he was assassinated, Abraham Lincoln stood at the east portico of the Capitol and delivered his second inaugural address. It was a brief speech with a distinctly religious message: he twice cited biblical verses, and made a dozen references to God, most strikingly in assessing the opposing sides in the Civil War. ... The address was roundly criticized in some newspapers for overstepping the bounds separating church and state. But Lincoln was using God to debunk government-by-God.

Now, with George W. Bush's re-election, God and a newly triumphant Republican president are once again in the headlines. And there are signs that the present national divide, between the narrow but solid Republican majority and a Democratic party seemingly trapped in second place, may be hardening into a pattern that will persist for years to come. Democrats, especially, are left to wonder: What will it take to break the pattern - an act of God?....
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 1:24:26 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The editorialist might actually try reading Lincoln's Second Inaugural:

On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. . . . One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it.

Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged.

The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

If that's not the clearest statement of the doctrines of penance and expiation outside of the Baltimore Catechism, i don't know what is.
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#2  That's odd, Mike. The idiot writing for the NYT claims that Lincoln meant to "debunk government-by-God", but the way I read Lincoln, he's saying that the events of the Civil War were His way of making us pay for the sin of slavery.

It's almost as if the NYTs writer hadn't even bothered to read Lincoln's speech, but instead used a second- or even third-hand account of it.

Or maybe he lied about it, trusting that his readers would never actually look up the original words, so his rewriting of history would become accepted fact.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/08/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Nice littel quatrain in there, too:
"Fondly do we hope,
fervently do we pray,
that this mighty scourge of war
may speedily pass away."
Posted by: mojo || 11/08/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Robert, are you suggesting that a writer at the NYT would make stuff up? Why, the current generation of Sulzburgers were told, "Integrity, integrity, integrity" by the will that left them control.
Posted by: Crinemble Elmaimble9725 || 11/08/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Robert, are you suggesting that a writer at the NYT would make stuff up? Why, the current generation of Sulzburgers were told, "Integrity, integrity, integrity" by the will that left them control.
Posted by: Crinemble Elmaimble9725 || 11/08/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Doh! that double-post was me. Apparently the rantburg cookie won't stick at work.
Posted by: Dishman || 11/08/2004 15:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Robert: Exactly! Given that the NYT's editorialist probably has no belief in the concepts of "sin," "penance," or "expiation," I'm not surprised he doesn't get it.

IMNTBHO, Lincoln was the greatest of all the Great Communicators.
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#8  As Lincoln was the last casualty of the first American Civil War [figuratively], will Bush be the first casualty of the second American Civil War? Does the wacked left really believe that such an act wouldn't put the center-right more into power and remove even more of the left's power and influence?
Posted by: Don || 11/08/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||

#9  Don,

It's actually worse than that. The NYT goofs don't even know the Constitution. In the event (God forbid) that Mr. Bush should pass while he was in office, the presidency doesn't revert over to the opposition party. It goes over to our dear Mr. Cheney, who would immediately become the new Chimpy Bushitler.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/08/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||

#10  In 2,000 years, there will be a trivia question about how "Chimpy Bushitler" became the title for the world's most powerful politicians. Kinda like Caesar/Tsar/Kaiser...
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/08/2004 17:02 Comments || Top||

#11  And who would Cheney appoint VCB once he was Chimpy Bushitler? Richard Perle?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#12  If either President Bush or Vice President Cheney leaves office, the next vice president of the United States will be Condoleeza Rice.
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2004 17:58 Comments || Top||

#13  I like Cheney and have the utmost respect for him. But I would LOVE to hear the LLL attacks (and they would) if Bush selected her to become Vice President. A pet conspiracy of mine is that Cheney will leave office after two years and Bush will select a Vice that will in turn run for President. That is why I would like it if he picked Condi, but I would also like to see JC Watts on that short list as well. Am I purposesly putting forth Black candidates? Yes because either one of these people is way better than ANYBODY on the left side, they are both conservative, and they would cement the conservative hold on power for the forseeable future. Either one would take the Presidential election by 60% or more. Ok ranters shoot holes in this theory for me.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/08/2004 18:11 Comments || Top||

#14  Bush is into democracy, stability and rule following. Look at the turnover in his cabinet. He doesn't see himself as a king-maker. He'll be happy to let the party members make the decision through the primaries. He knows this will give the party the most strength and the nominee the most party support. He'll finish his term with an open field for the next nominee whomever that shall be.

Besides that you didn't mention Giuliani. Or J. Fred Thompson. Or Dick Cheney. Or George Pataki. Or John Mc Cain. Or Colin Powell. A candidate rich environment to run against Hillary or...
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 18:21 Comments || Top||

#15  Mrs. Davis, I like your choices but I think the Republicans can (and should) make a strategic and tactical statement with Watts or Rice. They are both youthful and counter the styreotypical Republican. Can you imagine the DNC running an attack ad against Watts? Or questioning the intelligence of Dr. Rice? I would really like to see one of these on the ticket in 2008 or in a Seanate race in 2006/08.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/08/2004 20:50 Comments || Top||

#16  CS, I agree completely, but I don't think W will force it. I think you may have defined the universe of VP contenders, unless one of them gets the top of the ticket. A Giuliani Rice ticket would be unbeatable. Each nominee from the two big blue states.

I was hoping Condi would run for Governess of Caliphornia in 06 to prep for 12 in case Hillary wins in 08. She needs the real world executive experience. But she is definite top of ticket material. The Rs have so much and the Dems so little. Maybe a faction of the GOP could arrange a hostile takeover of the D party.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/08/2004 21:02 Comments || Top||

#17  Blowback's started.

The "author" of this article's sent an email out that's not what I meant.

LGF got one.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 22:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
Dollar expected to fall amid China's rumoured selling
Couldn't bring US down by electing Kerry, so trying to bring US down economically???

Doesn't this make China less competitive? It certainly makes Euroland. Some stock market people on FoxNews yesterday said the Euros won't buy American stocks because of W.

The dollar could slide still further, in spite of hitting an all-time low against the euro last week in the wake of George W. Bush's re-election, currency traders have said. The dollar sell-off has resumed amid fears among traders that Mr Bush's victory will bring four more years of widening US budget and current account deficits, heightened geopolitical risks and a policy of "benign neglect" of the dollar. Many currency traders were taken aback on Friday when the greenback fell in spite of bullish data showing the US economy created 337,000 jobs in October....
It's really going to be bumpy.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 12:19:45 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Euros who want to make money will buy American.

The question isn't if China is selling dollars. It's what are they buying? I suspect they aren't selling. The dollar is still the currency of choice worldwide. Euros get them no advantage, overpriced and underbacked as they are.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#2  FT: China, which has $515bn of reserves, was also said to be selling dollars and buying Asian currencies in readiness to switch the renminbi's dollar peg to a basket arrangement, something Chinese officials have increasingly hinted at.

This makes the other Asian currencies stronger versus the dollar, increasing China's competitiveness. It means that other Asian countries (especially Japan and Korea) will increase their purchases of dollars to regain currency competitiveness, thus negating the Chinese actions. I see the Chinese losing huge chunks of cash if they follow through with this. (The Malaysians tried this some time back and they lost billions). Good...
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/08/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#3  The US treasury has been urging the Chinese to float their currency for a long time. The Chinese are selling their dollar reserves so that other buyers/countries are left holding the bag when the renminbi is revalued.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Countries will buy our currency to the extent that they export goods to the US. It's as simple as that. They need to keep our currency high so we continue to buy their goods and they needs to hedge against valuations in our currency because we represent do much of their revenues.

Btw I hope the dollar falls, it's historically been ridiculously overvalued because it's been propped up by Japan and China artificially increasing it's value to increase their exports to us. Which is a really good deal for us since we get to borrow money for far less than we make off the money.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/08/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Wow, I just read my comment... My english needs some work ;) But my point still stands.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 11/08/2004 12:56 Comments || Top||

#6  two points:

1) This makes our goods cheaper to export

2) This makes our *people* cheaper to employ

Great way to fix outsourcing.
Posted by: Brutus || 11/08/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  ZF,

This makes the other Asian currencies stronger versus the dollar, increasing China's competitiveness.

??? You mean, decreasing China's competitiveness. China's imports to the US are going to be significantly more expensive, meaning they will have to improve their quality significantly if they intend to maintain or extend their market share. Perhaps this is possible in the long run, but not anytime within the next five years.

When a third-world exporter wishes to improve its economic fundamentals in the short term, it devalues its currency. A weaker dollar will not help China anytime soon. And it is absolutely devastating to wealthy export-oriented countries like Germany.
Posted by: lex || 11/08/2004 13:07 Comments || Top||

#8  Wouldn't it be truly ironic if George Soros would now recoup his election losses by buying dollar contracts for the inevitable rebound?
Posted by: doc || 11/08/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Multiple forces working here.

Weaker dollar = more US exports & probably more jobs here if our exports aren't deliberately boycotted, a possibility in some places.

Weaker dollar = fewer people buying US treasuries, a real problem given the low savings/investment rate by Americans and the huge ballooning debt due to the GWOT plus tax cuts.

Right now it wouldn't be surprising if currency speculators were active - there are structural sticky places in the currency markets which are custom made for it.

Posted by: rkb || 11/08/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#10  I thought this would help US.

My husband is in mfg. The Chicoms might be winning the bid, but parts are being made in the US so they have to be playing the currency differential. Trinket-wise, all China all the time, but stuff that goes inside machines???? US.

But they can't compete on turnaround time and quality in some areas. And if AQ and their ilk start sinking tankers.... more stuff will come home or go South.

Plus, earlier this year I read an article in the Brit papers that the Sauds cried wolf, said the Euro wasn't ready for prime time and lost about $200 bill on their play.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#11  Well, rkb, there might really be a mandate to cut the budget.

I have some ideas.

I wonder if Ter-AY-Zha is buying international stocks again and dumping treasuries.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||

#12  My inner conspiracy theorist wants to see China's actions as an attempt to undermine the US economy and make us too weak to consider military action against their new partners in Iran.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/08/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#13  China selling dollars does not weaken the economy, at least in the short term. In the middle term, China will have less dollars with which to fund its explosive growth in infrastructure improvement and military hardware. Since China runs a trade deficit with everyone but the United States, it won't hurt us for a while. Russia prices its Kilos in dollars, not Euros.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#14  lex: ??? You mean, decreasing China's competitiveness. China's imports to the US are going to be significantly more expensive

China competes primarily with the East Asian countries for manufacturing work. Many of China's exports used to be exports from other East Asian countries (Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Korea and Taiwan). China's cheap wages (1/4 to 1/10 of many East Asian countries) made it necessary for many manufacturers in those countries to relocate their plants to China just to stay alive. By buying up the currencies of its East Asian neighbors, China is making their currencies stronger relative to the Chinese yuan, thereby keeping Chinese manufacturing wages low relative to theirs and helping to keep Chinese costs competitive compared to other East Asia countries.

This isn't pure currency speculation on China's part - a lot of it is trade-related. If the Chinese yuan becomes stronger with respect to the East Asian currencies, it will become less attractive for foreign investors to build factories in China. China's purchase of East Asian currencies is just a pre-emptive strike against the possibility of the Chinese yuan increasing in value against the East Asian currencies. And China's neighbors will retaliate by buying up dollars to keep their currencies competitive.

Whatever happens, any shift in jobs will primarily be from one East Asian country to another. In the event that China's currency becomes too strong, investors in China's coastal areas are looking at building plants in coastal and riverine countries like Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia instead of in China's interior because of the high transportation costs involved in using China's undeveloped road networks.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/08/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#15  I suspect that China is actually acting at the USs behest on this one. Our economist gnomes showed their economist gnomes through great and powerful number-crunching magic that their economy was about to self-destruct, unless they did exactly this. It will be very painful, and will probably be their first major recession, perhaps lasting several years; but it will keep them from utter and chaotic collapse.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/08/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#16  Moose: Despite the selling of dollar reserves and the recent interest rate increase, it's hard to believe that China is anywhere near a recession. Inflation is still relatively low, and growth is still projected at 9%.

I believe that when the economic crunch comes for China, because of its internal political and economic structures, it will result in a collapse, not a recession. China is not a free market in any recognizable sense of the term and will not behave as a free market does. It's a pyramid scheme, and has to tumble eventually.

Look for Chinese to starve and warlords to become publicly visible. I would suggest an interesting possibility in the First World economic region around Shanghai uniting with Taiwan out of self-preservation and necessity.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
I really hope this is a joke
I'd link to the original posting on craigslist, but I sincerely hope it gets taken down soon. Granted, it may merely be spam of some sort, but I'd hate for it to give anyone ideas, given recent headlines. I cached a copy of the page here, but this is the gist of it:
A few of us, including my wife, are going to commit suicide. If you plan to do the same, do it with us. Together we can make a statement:

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CONTEMPLATE SUICIDE WITH US?
Posted by: tipper || 11/08/2004 9:45:46 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If it's not a joke, g'bye. See ya.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2004 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  agreed, Fred - no skin off my fore if they wanna throw some chlorine in the gene pool
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2004 10:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Kerrystown?. I'll encourage them. Save the planet kill yourself. Or as one of the Air America talking heads told a conservative "open a vein"
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/08/2004 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  You hope this is a joke? Really? All I can say is, this isn't going to help their numbers in 2008.
Posted by: BH || 11/08/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  What flavor Kool Aid do they want me to make for them?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#6  "Together we can make a statement."

Yep. You'll be making a statement far and wide that you're so fucking stupid you think the whole world is going to end just because George W. Bush was re-elected. You'll be making a statement that you're a gullible fool who actually believes every word of the bullshit Democratic Party propaganda that demogogues like Tom Daschle, Michael Moore, Dan Rather and Terry McAuliffe concoct to fool ignorant idiots.

Frankly, I no longer care. Just DO IT. Or move to Canada and spend the rest of your life whining. Whichever.

Damned idiots...
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#7  What can I do to assist?
Posted by: raptor || 11/08/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#8  "Paging Dr. Kevorkian. Paging Dr. Kevorkian."
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/08/2004 12:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Actually the remarks by "Barry N Johnson" below the hateful Bush as the devil entry are more interesting...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#10  AMF!
Posted by: borgboy || 11/08/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#11  Now playing: Theme song from M*A*S*H*
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#12  Try not to be messy when you do it.

Remember some "oppressed" "underpaid" worker has to clean up after you.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/08/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||


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#1  Just so everyone knows, this only works after the earthquake happens...
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Papua, Indonesia?

Did New Guinea join Indonesia while I wasn't looking?
Posted by: mojo || 11/08/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Yup. In the evil Kirk universe.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 15:17 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Looks like Ghagbo's folding
President Laurent Gbagbo has appealed for an end to anti-French crowd violence which erupted after France destroyed most of Ivory Coast's small air force in retaliation for the killing of nine French peacekeepers. Under heavy international pressure to end the unrest, Gbagbo -- whose West African country is divided in half with rebels holding the north -- made his first public appearance since the crisis began by going on state television on Sunday night. "I am calling on people to remain calm, I am asking all the demonstrators to return home. You must not give into provocation," Gbagbo said after days of fiery rhetoric from supporters had whipped up anti-French anger. French and United Nations peacekeeping officials said Abidjan was generally calm on Sunday night but that groups of youths were still out looting in the affluent Cocody district.

For a second night, French helicopters plucked frightened French nationals and other foreigners from the rooftops of houses and hotels, army spokesman Henry Aussavy said. Sporadic bursts of gunfire could be heard in the city. Ivorian officials initially maintained they had no evidence their military had struck the French peacekeepers in an air raid on the rebel-held town of Bouake on Saturday. But on Sunday the army acknowledged responsibility, although it said it had not meant to target the French and appealed for calm. Only a few hours before Gbagbo's appeal, the leader of the Young Patriots movement which backs him urged people to occupy Abidjan's main bridges where the French had set up checkpoints. "As I speak to you, they are occupying our two bridges. They want to intimidate us but we must stand tall," Charles Ble Goude said on state radio. "Not a single step back, stand tall." A resident living near one bridge saw no sign of protesters.
This might have something to do with Ghagbo backing down:
Some 50 armored vehicles were moved around the home of President Laurent Gbagbo in Ivory Coast's commercial capital, Abidjan, said presidential spokesman Desire Tagro. "Their presence here is scaring people. They're crying and they think that President Gbagbo is going to be overthrown," Tagro told The Associated Press by telephone. The French denied targeting Gbagbo's home, saying the forces were only securing a temporary base at a nearby hotel for foreign evacuations. "They have not surrounded Gbagbo's residence. I formally deny that," French Embassy spokesman Francois Guenon said. "It is not a question of ousting him, that is very clear."
It's a message, "we can take you down any time we want."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/08/2004 12:52:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Where's all that principled indignation from the Euroweenies and the UN about the heavy-handed, overly agressive response from the illegal occupation forces of Frawnce?
Posted by: Hyper || 11/08/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||


Ivory Coast Kill Count now at 30
French troops killed more than 30 Ivory Coast nationals and wounded at least 100 others in the ongoing crisis in the west African country, Ivorian parliament speaker Mamadou Coulibaly said on French public radio France Inter Sunday. "In [the main cities of] Abidjan and Yamassoukro the French army killed more than 30 people and wounded more than 100, people who were unarmed, to avenge the blood of nine dead French soldiers," Coulibaly said.
Guess the French didn't care about the baby ducks, either.
Nine French troops died in an air raid by Ivory Coast warplanes and 30 were wounded Saturday in the central Ivorian city of Bouake. French reinforcements were expected in Ivory Coast after continuing unrest overnight. Meanwhile, angry mobs of thousands laid siege to a French military base in Ivory Coast's largest city yesterday and went house-to-house in search of French families, answering hard-liners' call to take to the streets after deadly violence erupted between France's forces and those of its former colony. French military helicopters dropped percussion grenades throughout the night on mobs massing at bridges, the international airport and the military base in the commercial capital, Abidjan, French military spokesman Henry Aussavy said. France remained newly in control of the international airport after destroying what it said was the entire Ivorian Air Force -- two Sukhoi warplanes and five helicopter gunships -- Saturday. Destruction came in retaliation for the Ivorian Air Force's surprise bombing of a French peacekeeping position in the north, held by Ivorian rebels since civil war broke out in the world's top cocoa producer in September 2002.
I guess "strategic planning" and "cause-and-effect" aren't too strong in the Ivorian military. What did they expect the French to do?
France and the UN Security Council, meeting in emergency session, demanded President Laurent Gbagbo restore order. National Assembly President Mamadou Coulibaly, No. 2 under Gbagbo, accused French President Jacques Chirac of arming Ivory Coast's rebels, telling France's Inter radio "we have the feeling and we have the proof" of it. Accusing France of "connivance with the rebels," Coulibaly demanded French troops "liberate the territory and then go." "We ask you all to take to the streets," Ble Goude, a so-called youth leader in control of thousands of loyalist militia members, declared on state TV. "Show France we are a sovereign state," another loyalist hard-liner, Genevieve Bro Grebe, head of a women's militia, declared. Fearful of attempts to overthrow Gbagbo, Grebe on state TV urged crowds to form a ``human shield'' around his presidential palace.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/08/2004 12:50:12 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How come the 'protesters' are not in the streets over Chirac sending in more French troops? Where is the 'outrage' from the Left? Also, is Paris staging an under cover coup in Abidjan and using the death of its 9 French troops as a mask to airlift additional troops to enforce a new 'French' government?

Hellooooo-Kofi where are you and your little Hans on this one?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/08/2004 3:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Wouldn't the regular diplomatic approach have been for France to protest and demand explanations, instead of destroying aircrafts and shooting civilians?

It sounds like France is very quick to pull the trigger when it comes to its former colonies.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2004 3:35 Comments || Top||

#3  It also sounds from the description of the original event that French troops were garrisoned together with rebels. Did the Ivorian government know about it?

Considering what happened in Rwanda, where French troops have been accused of training and supporting the murderers, the current events are troubling.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2004 3:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Watched the French news last night -- the left is not protesting, in fact the leader of the Socialists said France is united behind the govt because the French have a mandate from the UN and are there as peacekeepers. (Translation: we don't like it when it's French people being killed.) On the military side, the French are moving their troops from the line of separation in the north, the border between the rebels and the govt, to the capital to protect French nationals. Lots of interesting pics of French military on the move and burned out hulks of aircraft.
Posted by: V is for Victory || 11/08/2004 6:39 Comments || Top||

#5  No blood for chocolate!!!
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 11/08/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Remember, people, France is the lone rogue nuclear power!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/08/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Wonder if a few rogue Rolands will find their way to Ivory Coast? Maybe some Milan and Hot for good measure.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2004 10:49 Comments || Top||

#8  So long as it doesn't get bad enough when they ask us to come and bail their asses out I could care less about this.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/08/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#9  Quagmire™
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/08/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Fred---Great pic of foreign leigionares Laurel and Hardy. Have the video at home. If I remember correctly, their professions of love to Jean Harlow were spurned, so they joined the foreign legion to forget her. After 10^6 snafus, they saved the day. The funny thing is that many of the characters in the movie were also spurned by Jean Harlow. I find more redeeming qualities in this movie than I do the French. LOL!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#11  I think this global warming thing is causing an excess of time in the northern climes. Can it be taxed?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2004 17:59 Comments || Top||



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