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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Ex-OH Physician Sentenced in Explosives Case
Mark Campano was sentenced in Cleveland federal court 19 Nov to 52 months in prison after changing his plea from not guilty to guilty in September 2010 on one federal count of possessing unregistered weapons. He was initially arrested in 2009 after law enforcement was called to investigate 2 explosions in his apartment.

A local paper not online gave more information: on the first call officers found 35 pipe bombs, 17 rifles and pistols, 2 homemade silencers, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. An assistant US attorney quoted Campano as saying he was "suffering from paranoia and began making the bombs and acquiring the firearms for protection, because he was concerned about the collapse of our country, Armageddon and the need to protect himself." The Ohio State Medical Board removed his license to practice medicine in 2006 due to Campano's history of drug dependency.
I dunno. The volume of materials found at his apartment, no stated visible means of financial support, and his drug history looks more like an illicit business operation. At least he's out of circulation for a while.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/29/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let us hope guys like Campano don't get together with would-be jihadis like MoMo of Oregon.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/29/2010 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Only a matter of time til they do. Hopefully the weak-knees in DC will be gone by then and we can have a proper expedited pathway to the Terre Haute gurney for all involved...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/29/2010 9:05 Comments || Top||

#3  A GIS of this guy, and one look says psychiatric case, big time. He probably had natural paranoia until he started taking drugs, which turned it acute.

It would probably be highly entertaining to hear his EOW kookdom. The ironic thing is that the majority of clinical paranoids are completely defensive; they wouldn't dream of attacking someone. But if you broke into their lair, it's like sticking your hand into a wolverine's nest.

Literally, they will often booby trap their own domicile.

And they are not particularly careful how they handle stuff like explosives. It is the sort of place you back out of, slowly, trying to step where you stepped before.

A paranoid physician? That could be very, very bad.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/29/2010 13:23 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Idiot of the Day
A German pensioner who wanted to seal off the entrance to his cellar ended up bricking himself into it, a police spokesman told Reuters on Thursday.
Well, he did seal off his cellar. Was it a root cellar?
The senior citizen from Jena told police he only became aware of the mistake once his handiwork was complete, which police described as "pretty stupid" in a statement.
Pretty stupid about covers it.
After camping out in the cellar for several days he resolved to free himself by knocking down a wall, but chose to demolish his neighbor's wall rather than the one he had just put up.
The man had been at loggerheads with his neighbors for some time and they informed the police when they heard drilling noises. The police were waiting for the pensioner when he made his great escape and have now launched an enquiry.

(Reporting by Michelle Martin)

Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/29/2010 15:20 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cue the music

Probably didn't have a glove and baseball to kill time.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/29/2010 17:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like an Obama appointee to me.
Posted by: whatadeal || 11/29/2010 17:28 Comments || Top||

#3  The thousend injuries of whatadeal I had borne as I best could; but when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge. You, who so well know the nature of....ahh crap.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/29/2010 18:13 Comments || Top||

#4  tonight: a solo presentation of "Cask of Amontillado"!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/29/2010 19:25 Comments || Top||

#5  For the love of God, Montresor!
Posted by: gromky || 11/29/2010 19:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Well, this Fortunado did survive his entombment.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/29/2010 21:08 Comments || Top||

#7  sooo.... have any of you guys ever read Edgar Allan ... oh nevermore nevermind
Posted by: Frank G || 11/29/2010 21:12 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Another Top International Scientist Renounces MMGW
A top East European climatologist, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize with UN global warming colleagues, jumps a sinking ship as ocean data signals a cooler climate.

Dr. Lucka Kajfež Bogataj left cold clear water between herself and her former UN shipmates by declaring that rising levels of airborne carbon dioxide probably don't cause global temperatures to rise. The news scuppers hope for a change in fortune for the beleaguered UN climate agency.

The Slovenian climate professor made the chilling announcement last month in an obscure foreign language journal that has only now been translated into English. The lambaste came in the publication Delo Polet (18/11/2010), translated into English as, "Inconvenient Truth." Inside Bogataj publishes a paper entitled, "The more we know, the better."

With science being thus clearly defenestrated it's the women who are now leading the men in fleeing the sinking ship. As that rotten IPCC hulk steers towards its ignominious fate, well known American climatologist, Dr. Judith Curry was the first female professor jostling for the lifeboats last month accusing the IPCC of "corruption" according to Nature magazine.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/29/2010 07:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Women and children first!
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/29/2010 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  At least the women are smart enough to recognize that the 'global warming" ship is sinking.
Posted by: tipover || 11/29/2010 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Women, children, Red Indians, spacemen and a sort of idealized version of complete Renaissance Men...
Posted by: Pappy || 11/29/2010 10:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Does that mean they will give back all the wasted Grant money on MMGW too?
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/29/2010 12:23 Comments || Top||


Africa North
'Rigging', low turnout mars Egypt election
[Pak Daily Times] Opposition charges of ballot stuffing, bullying and dirty tricks clouded a parliamentary election in Egypt on Sunday in which the ruling party wants to prevent its Islamist rivals from repeating their 2005 success.

Some voters were turned away by officials saying there was no election or that polling booths had shut. Others reported finding ballot boxes stuffed to the brim minutes after voting began, rights groups and opposition campaigners said.

The outlawed Mohammedan Brotherhood, whose candidates must run as independents, is contesting 30 percent of seats in the lower house where it won an unprecedented 20 percent in 2005. But even senior Islamists expect a lower total this time, with the government determined to squeeze its most vocal critics out of parliament before a presidential vote in 2011.

"There's no voting going on, just rigging. It's a disgrace. May those who rig votes be crippled," said Hassan Sallam as he emerged from a polling booth at Raml, in the northern city of Alexandria. "There was no privacy. The ballot boxes were full." Abdel-Salam Mahgoub, the candidate for the ruling National Democratic Party (NDP) in that constituency, denied any abuses. Brotherhood supporters chanted 'Void, void' as NDP supporters walked in to vote. The Brotherhood candidate, Subhi Saleh, accused his NDP rival of distributing 'outrageous' fake pamphlets in his own name that said falsely that he was quitting the election.

Four people were killed and 30 maimed in pre-election violence, according to the Egyptian Organisation for Human Rights. Fourteen people were killed in the 2005 poll when voting was staggered over about a month. Several casualties were reported in the Nile Delta on Sunday, including the overnight stabbing of the son of an independent candidate in Matariya. Police denied the killing was election-related. One voter died of a heart attack outside a polling station in Minufiya, a security source said. The brother of an independent candidate was shot and maimed in Mansoura.

In Gharbiya, in the Nile Delta, Brotherhood campaigners said hired thugs had blocked them from monitoring the elections. When some voters threw stones and tried to push their way into a polling station, police expelled them, witnesses said. The government has promised a free and fair election. The result of Sunday's poll is not in doubt, only the size of the majority for geriatric President Hosni Mubarak's NDP, which has never lost an election. Many Egyptians see no point voting. The official turnout in the 2005 election was 22 percent. Rights groups put it at 12 percent.

In Cairo, voting appeared very thin at a dozen polling stations around the capital, where only a handful of people were waiting to cast ballots, with a few coppers on guard duty. The government has rejected calls to allow international monitors. The two-round election in which 508 seats are at stake, with 10 more appointed by the president, may offer a foretaste of how the government conducts next year's presidential vote. Mubarak, in power since 1981, has not said if he will run again. Voting began at 8am and ended at 7 pm. The run-off will take place on Dec 5 for districts where no candidate won more than 50 percent in the first leg.
Posted by: Fred || 11/29/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...and it looks like they're celebrating in the customary way.

Egyptians riot, burn cars, claiming vote fraud
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/29/2010 17:02 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Around 600 held ahead of hartal
[Bangla Daily Star] The main opposition BNP ran a campaign across the country yesterday to drum up public support for tomorrow's countrywide hartal
... a peculiarly Bangla combination of a general strike and a riot, used by both major political groups in lieu of actual governance ...
amid obstructions from law enforcers at different places.

Police jugged about 600 people in different parts of the country yesterday ahead of the dawn-to-dusk hartal.

BNP Secretary General Khandaker Delwar Hossain claimed at least a thousand leaders and activists of the party and its front organisations were jugged and more than 500 injured in police attacks on opposition activists until 12:00noon.

The State Minister for home affairs, Shamsul Hoque Tuku, however said none was jugged in connection with the opposition's protest programmes.

"Police did not arrest anyone without specific charges," he told news hounds at his office.

Top police officials said they would ensure safety of commuters and operation of public transport and shops during the hartal.

Law enforcers charged truncheons on a pro-hartal rally in Natore injuring at least 10 people including former deputy minister Ruhul Quddus Talukder Dulu.

Ruling party activists clashed with opposition supporters in Khulna leaving 24 people maimed. Clashes between the opposition activists and those of the ruling party occurred in Barisal.

A number of opposition parties including Jamaat-e-Islami expressed support for the hartal and urged people to make it a success.

Acting Jamaat Secretary General ATM Azharul Islam at a press briefing at the party's central office called upon people to observe the hartal peacefully.

BNP held rallies and brought out processions at all divisional headquarters as part of its six-day protest programme that began on November 25. It will do the same today to garner public support for the hartal.

BNP standing committee on November 22 announced a set of protest programmes including hartal to "save democracy and the country".

Party Chairperson Khaleda Zia held talks with like-minded political parties and professional bodies and sought their support for the party programmes. She asked the leaders of BNP Dhaka city unit to be on the streets during hartal.
Posted by: Fred || 11/29/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hartalmania!
Posted by: ryuge || 11/29/2010 16:00 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuela gets $4bn Russian arms loan
[Iran Press TV] Venezuelan His Excellency President-for-Life, Caudillo of the Bolivarians Hugo Chavez says Russia has given his country a $4 billion credit to purchase arms in order to reequip the nation's defense sector.
Russia must have lots of money to waste these days, if they can gift Venezuela with US $4 billion worth of weaponry at the same time that they've gone back to the old Communist barter with China. After all, it's not like Venezuela will ever be able to pay back the loan.
"We were in Russia not long ago and the Russian government has now given us a $4 billion credit to help us with defense equipment," Chavez said on Saturday at the 90th anniversary of Venezuela's air force.

"We are simply doing the task of defending the fatherland from the threat of the empire and its allies," Rooters quoted the Venezuelan president as saying.

Chavez did not offer any details on the material his country plans to purchase. In April, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin had stated that Venezuela was considering a $5 billion weapons order.

Washington has expressed its concerns about Chavez's purchases of tanks, fighter jets and air defense systems in the past years.

After the US imposed an embargo against Venezuela in 2006, the country has turned to Russia and China to meets its military necessities.

Venezuela is awaiting a delivery of tanks and air defense systems from Russia. It is also in the process of buying a dozen Y-8 transport planes from China.

Venezuela has already purchased K-8 training jets and an extensive radar system to upgrade its surveillance system, which has become largely useless following the US embargo.
Posted by: Fred || 11/29/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Keeping Hugo in power and Venezuelan oil production crippled is probably worth a lot more to Russia than four billion dollars.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/29/2010 1:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Company script at company store.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/29/2010 14:11 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China Export Centers Suffer Worker 'Shortages'
From the "If You Pay Peanuts, All You Can Hire are Monkeys" department:
BEIJING -- Two of China's main export manufacturing areas are suffering from an acute shortage of migrant workers, giving laborers more leverage over wages and curtailing the expansion plans of some companies. The article cited experts saying that rising living costs along the coast coupled with low wages had led to an increasing number of workers deciding to stay in the interior of China, where living costs are much lower.
And from the Thesaurus of Economic Excuses
The labor shortage in the Pearl River Delta is coming during the busiest time of the year for factories there, when Western companies order more goods for their holiday season.
Seems a bit late for holiday manufacturing to gear up.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/29/2010 15:13 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WHAT??? If your goods weren't on the water 30 days ago, there's no freaking way they'll be in stores before January. More uninformed bullshit from NYT.

I also love that their source for the story is officially censored Chinese government news.
Posted by: gromky || 11/29/2010 17:15 Comments || Top||

#2  But China can point to the labor shortage in the export hubs as one reason not to let the renminbi’s value rise, since companies are already grappling with the possibility that higher wages could make their goods less competitive.

Seems a more likely reason.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/29/2010 18:30 Comments || Top||

#3  ???

"Oh dear, we're having trouble finding workers, we better not pay them more money?"
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/29/2010 18:53 Comments || Top||

#4  It's like there's some fangled economic equation linking prices to demand over supply...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/29/2010 19:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Now if 'made in China' is possible because the cost of shipping from the east coast of China to the left coast of the US is within profitable parameters, why wouldn't building and assembly in China's interior also not be within parameters, unless the infrastructure to support such transportation doesn't viably exist. Which implies something in economist estimates is not being factored in projecting near and mid future forecasts of China's overall economy.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/29/2010 22:29 Comments || Top||


Anti-US governor wins Okinawa poll
[Iran Press TV] The Japanese on the southern Island of Okinawa have re-elected incumbent governor Hirokazu Nakaima, who wants an end to the American military presence. Nakaima, who wants the US base off Okinawa altogether, beat his opponent who agreed to relocate the base to a less crowded area on the island.

In May, Tokyo and Washington agreed to implement a 2006 plan to relocate the Futenma airbase to a less crowded area in Okinawa. The move infuriated local residents, who view the base as a source of noise, pollution and serious crime --including rape.

Futenma hosts about half the US troops in Japan and the row over this airbase has been giving new headaches to Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan.

The development comes after his Democratic Party lost an upper house election in August.

Kan's predecessor Yukio Hatoyama had to resign after he failed to keep his election campaign promise to remove the base off Okinawa.

Futenma has provoked a wave of anger in the country, with the nation demanding a complete removal of the airbase, which has been under US command since the end of World War II, off Okinawa.

Japanese people have been urging their government to remove US military installations from the country altogether. Tens of thousands of people have held several rallies against the American military engagement in the country over the past months.
Posted by: Fred || 11/29/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I noted in his comments today, all of a sudden the base being moved off the island isn't quite as needed immediately.......
seems the NORKS have had an effect on Japanese politics.
Strange how pacifistic principle is affected by sudden reality.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 11/29/2010 11:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Moving the US off the island is more a political tool that the newbies can count on than anything else. Funny how all the incumbents come around when faced with reality. Then they get to see their own tool used against them.
Posted by: gorb || 11/29/2010 11:56 Comments || Top||

#3  A lot of American blood was shed to conquer that island and we can stay there as long as it suits our needs - as far as I am concerned they have no say in the matter.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/29/2010 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Has the guvnah ever heard of Vieques? Or Roosevelt Roads? When we leave, we don't leave a big pile of money behind for you just because everybody in Futenma doesn't have a friggin job anymore...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/29/2010 17:16 Comments || Top||

#5  When's the last time an Okinawa electorate chose somebody pro-American, or even to the right of Chou En-Lai?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 11/29/2010 17:33 Comments || Top||


Economy
SecDef Seeks to Cut Military Expenditures on Health Care for Retirees
WASHINGTON — Francis Brady enjoys a six-figure salary and generous benefits at the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, but as a retired Marine lieutenant colonel he and his family remain on the military’s bountiful lifetime health insurance, Tricare, with fees of only $460 a year. He calls the benefit “phenomenal.” “Don’t ask the folks who have done so much more for this country, who have been called to act since 9/11, to be the first in line to give some more,” said Norbert R. Ryan Jr., a retired vice admiral and president of the military officers’ group. As for Tricare’s generous benefits, Admiral Ryan said that anyone “can get this good deal — go over to a recruiting office and sign up for Iraq and Afghanistan.”
I have better ideas. Outlaw unions of public employees. If they don't like that, they are always free to seek more gainful employment elsewhere. Cut the pay of all non-military federal employees 20% now, and eliminate their defined-benefit pensions, make them pay for their retirement the way the vast majority of Americans have to, nowadays. Military pension & retiree benefits are the last thing to be cut, just before the US government goes out of existence.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/29/2010 15:01 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, they're just reneging on deals made for services already rendered. They've been doing this bit by bit since the early 90s. The pols have been lying through their teeth about covering costs. More fun to spend money on 'bread and games' to keep their voters happy. It's the canary in the mine as an unquestionable warning that all government regulated and run health care is not going to be economically viable or sustainable.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/29/2010 16:48 Comments || Top||


Europe
Wapo: Swiss Vote 53% to Deport Foreigners Convicted of Crimes
Switzerland voted in a referendum Sunday to automatically expel foreigners convicted of crimes ranging from murder to false claims for unemployment insurance.

The measure, which was approved by 53 percent of those voting, highlighted a growing unease with the number of immigrants in Western Europe who arrive from poor countries in Africa, Asia and the Middle East to take advantage of the continent's peace, prosperity and generous social protections.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/29/2010 00:46 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That seems about right - as long as the other 47% are executed.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/29/2010 12:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I have an American friend who emigrated to Switzerland and took Swiss citizenship. With a wealthy sponsor, it was still hard years of paperwork, employment, various levels of residency, interviews, study, and more paperwork. Somewhat over 10 years.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/29/2010 13:12 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL Glenmore

Preferably executed by the halberd of a Swiss Guard in ceremonial uniform.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/29/2010 17:00 Comments || Top||



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