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Father and Mother nomenclature deemed archaic by DOS
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The words mother and father will be removed from U.S. passport applications and replaced with gender neutral terminology, the State Department says.
The words in the old form were mother and father, said Brenda Sprague, deputy assistant Secretary of State for Passport Services. "They are now parent one and parent two."
A statement on the State Department website noted: These improvements are being made to provide a gender neutral description of a childs parents and in recognition of different types of families. The statement didn't note if it was for child applications only.
The State Department said the new passport applications, not yet available to the public, will be available online soon.
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There are obviously bureaucrats who aren't being kept busy enough with real work.
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Spare the rod... |
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"These improvements are being made to provide a gender neutral description of a child's parents and in recognition of different types of families."
Why don't they just SAY... gays and lesbians who adopt children? If it is so righteous, why can we not speak of it freely? |
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Posted by: Besoeker ||
01/08/2011 8:39 Comments ||
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Of course this now implies that Parent Two is somehow inferior, 'follows', or is 'second class' to Parent One. |
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Posted by: CrazyFool ||
01/08/2011 8:57 Comments ||
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Well young State Department pollywog, how about...sperm donor and egg donor? |
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Posted by: Procopius2k ||
01/08/2011 9:16 Comments ||
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You would think they would have eliminated TRUENAME, which, like nobody but Microsoft engineers ever used. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 10:00 Comments ||
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Another step down the road that in the end will leave us faceless, nameless, numbered wards of the state. |
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Posted by: Steve White ||
01/08/2011 10:28 Comments ||
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I feel like a number
I'm not a number
I'm not a number
Dammit I'm a man
I said I'm a man
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Posted by: Frank G ||
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THE UNKNOWN CITIZEN
(To JS/07/M/378
This Marble Monument Is Erected by the State)
...He was married and added five children to the population,
Which our Eugenist says was the right number for a parent of his generation,
And our teachers report that he never interfered with their education.
Was he free? Was he happy? The question is absurd:
Had anything been wrong, we should certainly have heard.
W.H. Auden 1940
The most chilling poem I ever read. |
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Posted by: Alan Cramer ||
01/08/2011 14:24 Comments ||
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Stupid idiots. |
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Posted by: newc ||
01/08/2011 18:21 Comments ||
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How about pitcher and catcher?
Thing 01 and Thing 02? |
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Posted by: swksvolFF ||
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Posted by: Skunky Glins**** ||
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Nu-Passport* 2084
Carbon unit IDs (place comma between IDs. order your carbon unit IDs in any order you like or random order)
*Only given out to those who have advanced in the learning of the holy Gaia enough to be allowed to travel. |
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Posted by: Bright Pebbles ||
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No numbers, sillies!
Spousal unit [name] and spousal unit [name].
Oh, wait. Who gets to go first? |
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Carbon unit IDs
Now what do you have against non-Carbon life forms? |
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Police alert as fresh riots rock Algeria
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[Arab News] Police deployed outside mosques and a university in the Algerian capital Friday after fresh rioting erupted overnight following days of protests over rising prices and unemployment.
About 40 youths armed with swords attacked several shops in the city's El Biar area late Thursday, looting a restaurant and emptying a jewelry store before security forces arrived, local news hounds and witnesses said.
Hundreds of youths clashed with police in several Algerian cities earlier in the week, and ransacked stores in the capital.
There was a second night of festivities in the volatile Bab El Oued suburb, with police firing tear gas to disperse demonstrators, a witness said. One witness said youths had hurled Molotov cocktails and another said they carried swords.
Police positioned around mosques in Bab El Oued, Belcourt and Bachjarrah, poorer areas of the city, in case of more unrest after Friday prayers, according to news hounds on the scene.
There was also extra security at a cop shoppe, a new shopping mall and a major hotel in an area near Bab Ezzouar airport, while a nearby university was surrounded by security forces.
Travelers said a road between the capital and eastern suburbs on the coast had been blocked since Thursday afternoon after youths set up barricades, also clashing with security forces. Authorities cleaned up the debris Friday after the overnight unrest in Algiers, removing damaged cars at dawn.
In the Annacer-Diar El Afia suburb, a Renault-Dacia car dealership showed signs of fire and residents said a public bus was also torched, although only burn marks on the road were visible by morning.
"Why are they doing this?" an elderly woman asked a correspondent. "Yesterday I cried at home. Young people have a reason but they shouldn't be reacting like this," she said.
OPEC-member Algeria has seen periodic outbreaks of social unrest but riots due to a rise in the cost of basic foods are rare.
The cost of flour and salad oil has doubled in the past few months, reaching record highs, and 1 kg of sugar, which a few months ago cost 70 dinars (27 US cents), is now 150 dinars.
On Friday, riot police carrying tear gas rifles and batons maintained a strong presence around Algiers' main mosques and streets, a news hound said.
In the popular Belcourt district, dozen of trucks carrying the anti-riot force were parked. "There is a bit of tension in the air," said Salim Hanachi on his way to Belcourt's mosque. "We hope it will go well."
Officially unemployment is about 10 percent in Algeria, but independent organizations put it closer to 25 percent.
The government has announced an investment plan worth $286 billion over the next four years to create jobs and improve living conditions. President Abdelaziz Bouteflika has also promised 1 million new housing units by 2014.
Protests led by small groups of young men have flared in several towns this week, linked to anger about a spike in the costs of basic food items by about 30 percent this month, unemployment and a lack of social housing.
El-Watan newspaper reported that several people had been maimed in the Algerian festivities, but the official media has made no comment and authorities have only assured that they are tackling the spike in costs. Commerce Minister Mustapha Benbada said after meeting with producers and importers of cooking oil and sugar that his ministry "is beginning to control the crisis" and it would be resolved by next week, national radio reported Thursday.
About 75 percent of Algerians are under the age of 30, and 20 percent of the youth are unemployed, according to the International Monetary Fund.
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RJ, me too. And that was a looooong time ago. |
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Mugabe reinstates Moyo to Zanu-PF leadership
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 [Mail and Globe] expelled from Zimbabwe's ruling Zanu-PF, is on the political comeback trail.
At Zanu-PF's national conference in Mutare before Christmas, President Bob Muggsy Mugabe recalled him to the party's politburo, its highest decision-making body.
It was an indication of Moyo's reviving political fortunes in what he once described as "a party of octogenarians" -- he was last in the 50-member politburo in February 2005 before Mugabe fired him from government. But judging by the roar of applause that met his reappointment, as well as the smiles of party officials and the gyrating women who welcomed him back, Zanu-PF and its "Dear Leader" are prepared to forgive and forget.
Mugabe told delegates: "I don't want to call him a prodigal son. He is back as he was working in the party; he has talent and I am sure we will be satisfied with his work."
With elections expected this year, Zanu-PF will need Moyo's "talent" as a former spin doctor in government to drive the party's propaganda machine.
Political observers acknowledge that he was instrumental in securing the presidency for Mugabe in 2002 amid a wave of anti-Zanu-PF sentiment among voters.
Moyo's role
Although Zanu-PF did not immediately announce Moyo's role in the politburo, media reports tipped him for the post of deputy political commissar, a post left vacant by the death of Ephraim Masawi last year.
This would be a new chapter in his zig-zagging 10-year political career in which he has been a government spokesperson, Zanu-PF information and publicity minister, an amateur musician who crafted the incessant pro-Mugabe jingles aired every five minutes on the state broadcaster, an ardent critic of Mugabe and on two occasions Zimbabwe's sole independent legislator for the Tsholotsho North constituency. His oscillating loyalties led Mugabe to label him a "deviant".
Moyo was also the alleged architect of the repressive Access to Information and Protection of Privacy Act and the Public Order and Security Act. He orchestrated the closure of several independent newspapers in 2003.
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No end to Cote d'Ivoire stand-off as Ghana now queries use of force
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 [The Nation (Nairobi)] Cote d'Ivoire strongman Laurent Gbagbo's stand-off with the world intensified today after Britain and Canada rejected his expulsion of their envoys, insisting they only recognise his rival.
But with the crisis escalating as regional powers mull military intervention to remove Gbagbo in favour of the man the world says beat him democratically, Alassane Ouattara, neighbouring Ghana said it opposed the use of force.
Gbagbo's increasingly isolated government said late Thursday that the two ambassadors were no longer welcome, but London and Ottawa reiterated that they only recognised statements made by Ouattara.
Britain's Foreign Office said it "does not accept the validity of statements made by" anyone other than Ouattara, who has been holed up in an Abidjan hotel for weeks, besieged by Ivorian troops who remain loyal to Gbagbo.
Canadian Foreign minister Lawrence Cannon said that Canada "does not recognise Laurent Gbagbo's claim to government. As such, his request is illegitimate".
Ouattara is the internationally recognised winner of a November 28 presidential run-off but Gbagbo's government has said it would expel envoys whose countries ended its ambassadors' accreditations.
Former colonial power La Belle France, which has a much larger diplomatic mission in Abidjan, has also said it no longer recognises Gbagbo's ambassador but Gay Paree' envoy remains in place in Cote d'Ivoire's commercial capital.
Ouattara himself has called for a "non-violent operation" by west African special forces to snatch Gbagbo and thus head off the threat of civil war.
The latest bid by the Economic Community of West African States (Ecowas) regional bloc and the African Union to mediate an end to the crisis that has seen at least 210 people killed floundered on Tuesday.
Regional leaders have said they could carry out an armed intervention if mediation efforts fail, but the president of Ecowas member Ghana, John Atta Mills, said Friday his country was opposed to the use of force.
"Ghana is not taking sides in the crisis... but will support any government in Cote d'Ivoire," he told news hounds. "Some of us believe in diplomacy in solving problems rather than military intervention."
Ouattara is protected at the besieged Golf Hotel by around 800 UN peacekeepers as well as the ex-rebel New Forces allied with his camp since troops rubbed out several of his supporters on December 16.
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What the media isn't telling you is that the election was decided by muslim foreigners that illegally voted for Gbagbo's opponent.
Gbagbo and his government are Christian as is the majority in the country.
Gbagbo's opponent is Muslim and the Muslim vote was questionable.
Gbagbo is not going to turn his country over to muslim fundamentalist minority just because muslims were imported to alter the vote.
I really hate the media for not covering this! |
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Gbagbo seeks Zimbabwe support over crisis
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[The Nation (Nairobi)] An envoy of embattled Ivory Coast leader Mr Laurent Gbabgo was in Zimbabwe on Thursday to meet government officials, sparking rumours that the strongman is seeking President Bob Muggsy Mugabe's support to hold on to power.
The Ivorian ambassador to South Africa Mr Zogue Abie met Acting President John Nkomo to brief him on the situation in his country.
The envoy flew back to South Africa soon after the meeting that was also attended by Zimbabwe's acting Minister of Foreign Affairs Mr Hebert Murerwa.
An official said Mr Zogue was told that Zimbabwe would stand guided by the African Union (AU) position on Ivory Coast.
Mr Nkomo is the acting president because Mr Mugabe is on his annual vacation.
The presidential front man Mr George Charamba said Ivory Coast "was asking for an international commission to come in and evaluate the whole process on voting and where to get the truth on what happened."
"He said there must be a recount of votes and a peaceful resolution to the crisis."
The Ivorian leader who has ruled the world's biggest cocoa producer for close to a decade has refused to hand over power to his bitter rival Mr Alassane Ouattara despite losing in the November 28 elections.
Mr Ouattara has set up a parallel government that has received recognition from the AU, the United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society, Western and some African governments.
The situation playing out in Ivory Coast has been liked to President Robert Mugabe's disputed 2008 re-election.
The veteran ruler won a controversial presidential run-off against his rival and now Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai but in a surprise move a number of African governments refused to recognise his victory because of the massive violence and fraud that accompanied the election.
Mr Tsvangirai who had won the first round but failed to garner enough votes to claim the presidency was forced to withdraw before the runoff because of the violence.
Last month, Mr Gbagbo defended Mr Mugabe's refusal to hand over power saying he was a victim of Western interference.
"When you go through what I've been through, you tell yourself: perhaps Mugabe wasn't completely wrong after all," he said.
Many Zimbabweans have commended the tough stance taken by the Economic Community of West Africa, which they say shows that the Southern African Development Community has been treating Mr Mugabe with kid gloves.
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I IS BOSS AND I IS GONNA STAY BOSS.
Just crossed the line from leader to thug/dictator. |
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Posted by: Redneck Jim ||
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What a shocking turn of events!
Who else could he turn to? Oogo? |
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Jim, I'm not sure Gbagbo was ever on the 'leader' side of the lane. |
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Gbagbo expels British and Canadian ambassadors
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[The Nation (Nairobi)] Cote d'Ivoire's President Laurent Gbagbo on Thursday announced the expulsion of British and Canadian ambassadors after their countries terminated the functions of his representatives.
What if they just refuse to leave, like he has?
Gbagbo's Cabinet front man said in a statement read on State television that in a courier dated December 22, Ottawa removed Cote d'Ivoire's ambassador accreditation.
"In light of this decision and through the application of the principle of reciprocity governing diplomatic relations, the Ministry (of Foreign Affairs) informs Madame Marie Isabelle Massip that her accreditation as Canadian Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary Ambassador in Cote d'Ivoire is also ended," declared Mr Ahoua Don Mello.
The statement added that "under the same conditions and for the same reasons" the ministry withdraws the accreditation of United Kingdom and Northern Ireland ambassador Nicholas James Westcott, who resides in neighbouring Ghana.
Gbagbo is not breaking diplomatic relations with the countries, as the statement read that pending the appointment of new representatives; the ministry will continue to deal with staff of the embassies.
Decision rejected
Few hours later, UK Foreign Office and a spokesperson for Foreign Affairs Minister of Canada rejected the decision saying it does not come from the "legitimate" authorities they recognise.
It should be recalled that like Ottawa, London informed on December 31, Gbagbo's ambassador that "he is no longer the Ambassador for Cote d'Ivoire to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Earlier Belgium and the UN welcomed the ambassadors appointed by internationally backed Alassane Ouattara while La Belle France said the accreditation of Gbagbo rival's envoy was underway.
In Abidjan, Ouattara continued on Thursday a media offensive started a week ago with interviews in various media outlets.
At a presser at the hotel where he is holed up, the opposition leader explained that a military intervention would not lead to a civil war.
"It is a force to remove Laurent Gbagbo ... There are non-violent special operations which allow simply to take the unwanted person and take him elsewhere". He also said that his rival would leave before the end of January.
Ouattara harshly warned civil servants who continue to collaborate with Gbagbo's government. He disclosed that they might lose their job and even face "long time" prison term. After opposition's Cabinet was set up early December, it called on civil servants to stop cooperating with Gbagbo's administration, then all the workers for civil disobedience and finally a general strike.
'Heavily armed' soldiers
In another development, the former rebels of New Forces movement said they would not move from the opposition hotel headquarters as requested by Gbagbo's camp as a condition to lift the military blockade.
They said that they would only leave if "former Head of State Laurent Gbagbo accepts his defeat in the second round of the presidential election" and "decides to leave power peacefully". The group warned any attack on the hotel would face their "heavily armed and well trained" 850 soldiers instead of 300 as stated by Gbagbo Foreign Affairs minister.
The New Forces who have been holding the northern part of the country since 2002 sent 1,500 troops to the South in October to take part to the secure of the elections. It is not clear how many of them went back to their base in the central city of Bouaké.
In Western Cote d'Ivoire about 16 persons were reported killed and 60 maimed in the town of Duékoué. The unrest that lasted from Monday to Wednesday involved native communities Guéré and Malinké.
According to local witnesses, a bus going from Duékoué to a neighbouring town on Monday morning was attacked by gunnies. A Malinké woman was rubbed out in the attack and rumours said the gangsters were members of Guéré ethnic group. In retaliation, young people attacked the Guéré. About a hundred shops and houses were set on fire in the market.
However,
The infamous However ...
police restored calm later and a curfew has since been imposed.
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Sell it, but first weld a good sized bomb into the hull where it's very hard to detect, then IF it's used as a warship again, sink it. |
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Posted by: Redneck Jim ||
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I wonder if Amazon ever considered running a distribution center 'just off the coast' to avoid the clutches of desperate legislatures trying to pry the last pound of flesh from the productive. |
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Posted by: Procopius2k ||
01/08/2011 7:52 Comments ||
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He offers two and a half times their asking price? I would only agree to that if a whole bunch of mods were welded into its hull, so that if rebuilt that way, it would be so heavy and unwieldy that the engines and stabilizers of the USS Reagan couldn't make it work.
Again, time for the US to consider selling either the Kennedy or the Nimitz to India. It would make the Chinese poop lime Jello with envy. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 9:38 Comments ||
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A single carrier is a target. It takes more than owning one to have an effective carrier fleet. You need a lot of planes, some pretty awesome pilots, a fleet dedicated to protecting the valuable asset.
If China wants a carrier it'll help them train their navy and naval aviators, help against pirates, and perhaps disaster relief and make a lot of the folks proud of their nation but it won't be a threat. If they get a second or third carrier however. |
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Posted by: rjschwarz ||
01/08/2011 13:22 Comments ||
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Why steal tech and spend millions (or billions) to bring it on line when you can buy it for a dime on the dollar (basically salvage value). |
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Posted by: tipover ||
01/08/2011 14:16 Comments ||
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Did I read this article right? It was commisioned in 1972 and decommisioned in 1985! That's a mighty small life span for such an expensive ship, if so. |
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Posted by: chris ||
01/08/2011 15:01 Comments ||
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Overhaul it at Toulon before delivery. |
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Posted by: swksvolFF ||
01/08/2011 18:42 Comments ||
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Not just her, but 11 others. Some reports say she's already dead. Prayers for her and victims families. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
01/08/2011 13:58 Comments ||
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11 others also shot. Gunman was caught by the crowd |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 13:58 Comments ||
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Heavy traffic at the headline link right now. This link is working for now.
Terrible, depressing news. |
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Posted by: ryuge ||
01/08/2011 14:01 Comments ||
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she and 6 others are dead per NPR |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 14:16 Comments ||
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Reading comments from yahoo to drudge links, it seems the kooky right is being blamed.
I suspect this was a Cartel or Gang hit. One report has witnesses claimg a late teens to early 20's. The spread of the shots too is sloppy. Fox has source saying Gifford is dead too, looking for another, so I expect she will be. I want to know who the shooter was NOW. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
01/08/2011 14:21 Comments ||
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They always blame the right Charles - even after it's been proved otherwise - its how the Media works.
Looks like some are already blaming Sarah Palin...
Prayers to her and her family.
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01/08/2011 14:38 Comments ||
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I wouldn't want this to happen to even Dingy Harry. This is the wrong way to go about political discourse.
More than likely, it is some weird kook that blamed her for all his problems. Wars start this way, however. |
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Posted by: DarthVader ||
01/08/2011 14:42 Comments ||
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Gawker has this and more:
The gunman was young, mid-to-late 20s, white, clean-shaven with short hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or while being held down, although he struggled at first. He was "not particularly well-dressed"; he didn't look like a businessman, but more of a "fringe character," Rayle said. The sheriff's department arrived, arrested the gunman and cordoned off the parking lot. |
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Posted by: Nimble Spemble ||
01/08/2011 14:44 Comments ||
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La Raza supporter? |
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Posted by: Water Modem ||
01/08/2011 14:45 Comments ||
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now MSNBC says she's alive? |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 14:53 Comments ||
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Most likely a lone nutter. That won't stop the haters on the hard left from blaming everyone from John Boehner to Rush Limbaugh.
Prayers for Ms. Giffords soul, prayers for her family, prayers for the souls and families of all the others who were shot. |
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Posted by: Steve White ||
01/08/2011 14:53 Comments ||
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The whole probelm with the "right-wing" theory is there alot more pulbic and better targets. I wouldn't trust gawker with my laundry. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
01/08/2011 14:53 Comments ||
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was there absolutely no security at this event? 1 article I read says the sheriffs office arrived at the scene too take the man in custody but you would think there would be at leats minimal local lpolice at a politcal event with a member of congress in attendance. |
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Posted by: chris ||
01/08/2011 14:56 Comments ||
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KOLD reporting that Giffords is still alive and in surgery! |
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Posted by: ryuge ||
01/08/2011 15:01 Comments ||
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Don't know about security Chris, but probably light considering she's done this before and it was at a Family Values foodstore. Also newwest reports say Gifford is ALIVE. Which is incredible considering all reports say she was shot in the head at Point-blank range. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
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Lots of conflicting reports. Some say she's died, others say she's in surgery in Tucson. There are at LEAST three dead. It'll take awhile to sort through all the garbage to find the truth. Probably won't know before late this evening or tomorrow. At least they've caught the perp. |
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Posted by: Old Patriot ||
01/08/2011 15:18 Comments ||
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I jumped over to DU and on post #15 they finally accused.....Sarah Palin. Because she was on her target map. I hope she pull through, they conivct the person(s) responsible, and execute them. |
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01/08/2011 15:37 Comments ||
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Reports now coming in that Rep. Giffords has died. One of her last public acts was voting against Pelosi for Speaker of the House. Giffords voted for some other Democrat.
Reports are saying at least 4 others are dead. |
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Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 ||
01/08/2011 15:44 Comments ||
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Waiting on hospital news conference. Already overdue, Though Fox just confirmed Federal Judge John M Roll shot and killed at event as well. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
01/08/2011 15:54 Comments ||
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22 year-old Jared Raufner identified as shooter by Fox, White male. That's all that is known. The fact he's a White Male is enough though for the idiots to start crowing. |
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01/08/2011 16:07 Comments ||
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Press Conference just happened. Giffords Alive, out of surgery, doctors as optimistic as they can be in this situation. She's under anestasia(sp?). Confirmed child died at hostpital, 10 others there. 5 critical, 5 in Operating Rooms.
Obama scheduled to address Nation in 5 minutes. |
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Posted by: Charles ||
01/08/2011 16:14 Comments ||
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Name: Jared Lee Loughner, 22.
MySpace page removed. YouTube channel still up.
Other news reports are that the bullet passed right through her brain, and that a federal judge was also killed. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 16:24 Comments ||
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his youtube is weird - hard to get his leanings |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 16:27 Comments ||
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Shooter's Favorite Books:
Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno. |
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01/08/2011 16:30 Comments ||
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His leanings are toward wacko. He'll be portrayed as Tea Party. |
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01/08/2011 16:35 Comments ||
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His youtube
"In conclusion, reading the second United States Constitution, I can't trust the current government because of the ratifications: The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar.
No! I won't pay debt with a currency that's not backed by gold and silver!
No! I won't trust in God!" |
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01/08/2011 16:39 Comments ||
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If the youtube channel linked above does in fact belong to the shooter, his list of favorite books is really the only thing telling about him at this point:
Books:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno. |
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Posted by: eltoroverde ||
01/08/2011 16:40 Comments ||
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Gateway Pundit has his favorite youtube vid: burning an American flag in America: Your Last Memory In a Terrorist Country!
sounds like a real rightwinger and tea partier...not |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 16:50 Comments ||
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his list of favorite books is really the only thing telling about him at this point:
So, he's bookworm. |
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Posted by: badanov ||
01/08/2011 16:51 Comments ||
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Shep Smith (I hate him) had AZ State Senator Linda Lopez on - she said she'd heard he was an "Afghan War Vet". Despicable POS |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 16:53 Comments ||
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#31 Shep Smith (I hate him) Frank
I suspect Smith has some sugar in his pocket. After listening to Beck's pycho-babble last evening, I'm ready to give him the boot as well. |
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Posted by: Besoeker ||
01/08/2011 17:03 Comments ||
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lots of phoney facebook pages are appering now
example
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001935064664
Jared LaughnerAdd as Friend
Like · 15,870 people like this.
Philosophy
People Who Inspire Jared
*
[Sara Palin]
Sara Palin
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[Sarah Palin]
Sarah Palin
Activities and Interests
Other
Tea Party Patriots, Sara Palin
Basic Information
Sex Male
Interested In Men |
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Posted by: linker ||
01/08/2011 17:06 Comments ||
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#35
I would only read that other stuff under duress of a college class assignment.
Posted by badanov
Or if you enjoyed gay themes. |
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Posted by: Besoeker ||
01/08/2011 17:12 Comments ||
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#36
I would only read that other stuff under duress of a college class assignment.
Posted by badanov 2011-01-08 17:05
Most of what I know in life, I learned from Penthouse Letters. I've been perpetually disappointed |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 17:13 Comments ||
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Sugar in his pocket? |
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Posted by: Nimble Spemble ||
01/08/2011 17:26 Comments ||
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In the modern era, the majority of political assassins in America have been leftists. If it turns out that this guy was left-wing, it would fit the pattern. |
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Posted by: Zhang Fei ||
01/08/2011 17:40 Comments ||
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His reading list sounds like an AP English class, or the bookshelves of a parent who had a degree in English lit, not things picked up due to interest at a bookstore or library. Nobody seems to read The Phantom Tollbooth anymore, more's the pity. But anyone who's faves include both em>The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf does not live to the right (or left) of psychotic on the political spectrum. |
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Posted by: trailing wife ||
01/08/2011 17:50 Comments ||
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It seems that our shooter was an atheist but more importantly someone inimical towards those who have a spiritual life.
The MSM will surely not mention this at all in the coming days. |
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Posted by: no mo uro ||
01/08/2011 17:53 Comments ||
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@tipper #39 - Krugman took down comments because he was afraid it would turn into a flame war. (Huh... ya think, Paul?) |
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Posted by: eLarson ||
01/08/2011 18:07 Comments ||
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IMHO it sounds like he'd describe himself as a left-wing anarchist*.
*With all that cognitive dissonance, no wonder he's insane. |
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Posted by: Bright Pebbles ||
01/08/2011 18:08 Comments ||
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#44
It is unacceptable what this kid did. He shall be in the hole quite a while.
This is America, Bless all of our Representatives. |
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Posted by: newc ||
01/08/2011 18:13 Comments ||
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he shot and killed a child. F*** him. I hope he's kept in a dank dark cell til they give him the needle. |
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Posted by: Frank G ||
01/08/2011 18:20 Comments ||
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He blew a federal judge away, too. That should seal it for him. |
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Posted by: Nimble Spemble ||
01/08/2011 18:23 Comments ||
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#47
Ironically, with the bullet passing entirely through her skull case, might have been a "better" injury than had it gone in halfway and stuck. This was a discovery made in 1559 with the death of King Henry II of France, resulting in the biggest leap in knowledge about the human brain until the US Civil War.
That is, a "drain hole" prevents a very destructive, even lethal build up of blood and pressure in the brain. And the flow of blood might even wash out contamination and provide a little oxygenation to otherwise starved tissue. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 18:25 Comments ||
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Someone has a shovel, I'll bring the honey. |
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Posted by: swksvolFF ||
01/08/2011 18:34 Comments ||
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#49
A woman who claims she was a classmate of his Twittered the following:
Caitie Parker @catieparker
Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that's not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!!
Catie Parker
Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/ the gunman. I can't even fathom this right now.
Catie Parker
He was a poticial radical & met Giffords once before on '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"
Catie Parker
He was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix, The DOors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class
Catie Parker
As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.
Catie Parker
he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in '06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical.
Catie Parker
more left. I haven't seen him since '07 though. He became very reclusive.
Catie Parker
it's loughner just checked my year book.
Catie Parker
This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 18:39 Comments ||
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#50
Catie Parker
This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me
You must mean Good Morning, Catie Parker |
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Posted by: badanov ||
01/08/2011 18:47 Comments ||
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The left are making a big deal out of Sarah Palin putting a gunsight on her as one congressman targeted for election defeat. However, KOS put a bullseye on her, first. |
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Posted by: Anonymoose ||
01/08/2011 18:50 Comments ||
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#52
This was a comment from his "favorite" video -
You leftwing assholes just don't want to face facts that the dude killed a federal judge...a Bush appointee...and a moderate Dem. congresswoman was wounded...and Jared's page shows he was a liberal...his classmates said he was a liberal. His videos show he was anti conservative. His blogs show he was liberal. So stop talking out of your asses, you stupid fucks!
Looks like he was pretty liberal. Also, on his youtube page, Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto were among his favorite literary works.
I don't know if he picked her because she happened to be closest or not, but I'll bet he thinks she isn't "left" enough.
When I heard she had been shot, my first words were "I'll bet it was a liberal who did it." |
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Posted by: gorb ||
01/08/2011 18:55 Comments ||
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It's kind of amusing how the media, reliably left-wing as usual, never looks at left-wing kooks. Its gaze is perpetually fixed on right-wing kooks. Kaczynski killed 3 and maimed dozens. No analysis of left-wing extremists followed. Both Kennedys were assassinated by left-wing extremists, Sirhan and Oswald. No real analysis of the movement that spawned these perps. Ditto with the guy who almost did in Reagan. |
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Posted by: Zhang Fei ||
01/08/2011 19:22 Comments ||
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Nor will the media consider that politics doesn't explain everything. Sometimes it's just straight-up kookitude. John Hinckley was mainly out to impress Jodie Foster, no? As TW points out, Loughner's views sound utterly incoherent rather than right or left. Interesting that he posted what sounds like a suicide note - yet, he lived. A failed suicide-by-cop? |
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Posted by: RandomJD ||
01/08/2011 19:56 Comments ||
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#55
"When I heard she had been shot, my first words were "I'll bet it was a liberal who did it.""
Isn't it usually, gorb? :-( |
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Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
01/08/2011 20:20 Comments ||
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fwiw, Giffords is AZ's first Jewish US Representative |
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Posted by: lord garth ||
01/08/2011 20:31 Comments ||
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| #57
Unlike Goldwater who was an Episcopalian. I guess the desert sun confuses everybody. |
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Posted by: Nimble Spemble ||
01/08/2011 20:38 Comments ||
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#58
Dude was obsessed with Govt. mind control
from inf*wars dealing with his utube posts
link
also photos of him
from sm*king g*n
link
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Posted by: linker ||
01/08/2011 21:04 Comments ||
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huffy p*st
link
8:38 PM ET 2nd Perp Sought
Coppers are seeking a second perp in today's assassination attempt, Chief Constible Dupnik says. |
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Posted by: linker ||
01/08/2011 21:11 Comments ||
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#60
A Nobel Prize winner hit a new low today:
We dont have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. Shes been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that shes a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that the whole Tea Party was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palins infamous crosshairs list. |
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Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 ||
01/08/2011 21:43 Comments ||
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#62
a 'favorite' has shown up on his utube site (i do not think i missed it before - ?)
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