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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Local Morons Vandalize Lubbock Mosque Again
Members of a Lubbock mosque fear for their safety as vandals have continuously defaced their place of worship. Within the last month, the Islamic Center of the South Plains at 3419 La Salle Ave. has been vandalized at least three times. Between 11 p.m. Monday and 6:45 a.m. Tuesday, someone wrote the misspelled word "Redemtion" in black spray paint and scribbled lines on the sidewalks.

"I don't know what is the message they're trying to give," said Faiz Rahman, a member of the mosque and the adviser to Texas Tech's Muslim Students Association. "Given that it happened three times within the last month, we're a little concerned."

Lubbock police Sgt. Marian McGuire said the incidents were reported, but whoever is responsible for the vandalism has not been identified. Trampled flower beds and smashed exterior lights have prompted the mosque's religious leader, Mohamed El-Moctar, to consider updating the mosque's security system and installing digital security cameras.

A contractor also will be brought to the mosque to determine the cost of repairs to the building's exterior.

"We are a very peaceful community - and we expect to be able to come to worship without any intimidation," El-Moctar said. "It's really disturbing for the community because we have a service late at night sometimes."

The Muslim community in Lubbock is estimated to be between 500 and 700 people. Membership at the center is about 150.

Last summer, a fence surrounding the mosque property was removed as part of a renovation project. A new 5,600-square-foot multipurpose building also was added as well as new landscaping and walkways. The project cost between $700,000 and $800,000 and was funded by local Muslim donations and fundraising events.

El-Moctar said the recent incidents began after the renovation was completed last month. The goal of the additions and changes to the mosque was to become a part of the community. "I think maybe the building is becoming more visible and possibly more vulnerable," he said.

He encouraged anyone with questions about Islam to sit down with him and other members of the mosque and discuss religion openly. "I would like to tell the people who did this they are welcome to come to the mosque at any time."

Rahman also said he is not angry with the vandals, but he would like them or anyone else with fear of what they don't understand to try and gain a different prospective. "Probably they just don't know us - we invite people to come in; this is an open place," he said. "It's a place of worship and it should not be vandalized."

This is not the first time the center has been targeted. In May 2004, four teenagers received probation for burglarizing the mosque and writing pro-American and anti-Muslim slogans on the walls.
Actually, the 2004 vandals simply wrote obscenities and generic stuff like "go home" on the mosque. There was nothing "pro-American" about it, and nothing specifically anti-Muslim for that matter. The article also fails to mention that they stole some stuff and did $12,000 worth of damage. The police were adamant that there was no real religious or political motivation behind the incident. They had a good reason: The perps turned out to be illiterate gang-bangers who told investigators that they had first intended to vandalize a synagogue but failed to find one and had settled on the mosque instead!
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 10/26/2006 14:01 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's a moskkk in Lubbock? Who knew.
Posted by: exJAG || 10/26/2006 15:13 Comments || Top||

#2  The Dixie Chicks favorite place of worship I hear.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/26/2006 15:23 Comments || Top||

#3 
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Posted by: sinse || 10/26/2006 16:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't condone burning mosques. I UNDERSTAND IT! ... but can't condone it...
Posted by: Jolutch Whiting5380 || 10/26/2006 16:45 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't either.
Not yet...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/26/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Darn! Sympathy meter's on the fritz AGAIN! Maybe when the Paleos rebuild the synagogues in Gaza, or they put Nick Berg's and Daniel Pearl's heads back on, or Muzzies stop blowing themselves up to kill other people. Yeah, yeah, that's when it will probably start working again! Bet on it!
Posted by: mac || 10/26/2006 17:00 Comments || Top||

#7  #4 I don't condone burning mosques. I UNDERSTAND IT! ... but can't condone it...

#5 I don't either.
Not yet...


I'm with ya. But I'm still trying to figure out what the difference is between a Mosque being built in my neighborhood, or a KKK Center, or a Neo-Nazi/White Supremacist Rally Hall, or any other organization that calls for the genocide of an entire race of people. I can't condone Mosque destruction yet...but I'm purt near close. The survival of our society may soon be at stake. If it comes to that, my matches are dry, and so's my powder.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/26/2006 17:14 Comments || Top||

#8  I don't condone burning mosques. I UNDERSTAND IT! ... but can't condone it...

You, me, and Sam Kinnison.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/26/2006 18:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Wait just one minute!

The Muslim community in Lubbock is estimated to be between 500 and 700 people. Membership at the center is about 150.

Last summer, a fence surrounding the mosque property was removed as part of a renovation project. A new 5,600-square-foot multipurpose building also was added as well as new landscaping and walkways. The project cost between $700,000 and $800,000 and was funded by local Muslim donations and fundraising events.


Let's use a middle figure of $750,000 and divide it by those 150 members.That's a WHOPPING $5,000 donated per person. Add in their bake sales and fundraisers, hell, let's include their entire Muslim community overestimated at 750 members.

That's still a tidy $1,000 per person.

Where'd all the money come from? My bet is on Saudi Arabia. If true, does the Lubbock mosque have a Wahabbist imam? If so, is anyone monitoring the Friday night spewing?

Something's rotten in Denmark!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/26/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Well I don't know how Muslims do it, Zenster, but my church did it 45 years ago by borrowing the money and then taking pledges from the congregation and collecting them weekly for 20 years. Every week my parents put two envelopes in the collection plate -- the regular one and the building fund one. No crime, no conspiracy, no Muslims demanding an investigation.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/26/2006 21:17 Comments || Top||

#11  Islam is a death cult, there's no good reason why we or any other free country should let them assemble, no less own property.
Redemtion !
Posted by: wxjames || 10/26/2006 22:41 Comments || Top||

#12  No crime, no conspiracy, no Muslims demanding an investigation.

Maybe that's because it was highly unlikely that your parents' church's building fund was being footed by genocidal Nazi admirers. Do you have the dollar amount that was involved? I wonder what part or fraction (more like) it was of almost one million dollars (adjusted for inflation). Too many Islamic organization in America have shown themselves to be fronts for collection or distribution of terrorist financing.

When a tiny congregation comes up with almost a million dollars, my warning bells go off.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/26/2006 23:37 Comments || Top||

#13  too bad they didn't burn the mutherfucker down
Posted by: sinse || 10/26/2006 16:24 Comments || Top||


Canadian lottery sellers suspiciously lucky: CBC
Posted by: ed || 10/26/2006 07:34 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Gay pride flag stolen at St. Cloud State
A gay pride flag has been stolen from St. Cloud State. Someone took down the rainbow flag from the university's administrative services building last weekend. The flag was raised in honor of Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transgendered-and-Allies History and Awareness Month and was intended to be on display through October.

In a mass e-mail, SCSU sociology professor Tracey Ore points out that some students had started a group called "Remove the GLBT Flag" on the Facebook website. On the site, the group contends the flag misrepresents people on campus. The message also says the flag pole should not be used to represent any one organization. It's not clear if one of the members of the group removed the flag.
Posted by: Fred || 10/26/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh well. More chicks for the football team.
Posted by: ed || 10/26/2006 6:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Expect CSI St. Cloud to get right on this one.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 10/26/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  The flag was raised in honor of Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transgendered-and-Allies History and Awareness Month

Was I supposed to know that?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/26/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#4  The St. Cloud gay pride flag was found today. It turned up, mysteriously, in Trenton, New Jersey.
Posted by: Mark Z || 10/26/2006 11:47 Comments || Top||


Principal suspended for giving student wedgie
LIVINGSTON, Mont. — A high school principal received a six-day suspension and a letter of reprimand for giving one of his students a wedgie.
Ohfergawdsake.
Eric Messerli pulled a Park High School senior's soccer jersey over his head and yanked upward on the waistband of the boy's underwear at a soccer game Oct. 5. Other school officials said he was joking around with the student and did it playfully. He was suspended for two days without pay and four days with pay before the school board decided Monday to let him return. He tearfully told the board: "I've made mistakes in my life, but none have had the impact that this one has had."

Messerli, who was back on the job Tuesday, will be required to talk with students and staff members about the incident to restore respect and authority. He said his first reaction was to resign, but he decided to "tackle this mess" head on. "I want to live in a world where we don't have to hide when we screw up," he said.
Nurse! Give him an enema!
Posted by: Fred || 10/26/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  At least in Montana, he gets his job back, gotta luv that. Next time, shove a head in the toilet and make all those tears and groveling worth your while. Sheesh.

Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 2:31 Comments || Top||


Danny Rolling is executed for Gainesville killings
STARKE - Danny Rolling, the man who murdered five University of Florida students and plunged the city of Gainesville into panic in the summer of 1990, was executed tonight. The governor's office said Rolling, 52, died around 6:13 p.m.
Posted by: Fred || 10/26/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So he should've died at age 36. Wotta wa$te.
Posted by: .com || 10/26/2006 3:46 Comments || Top||

#2  That ain't the half of it, .com. He's another one of those pukes that claimed the death penalty was unconstitutional because it might hurt. Boo freakin' hoo.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 10/26/2006 4:43 Comments || Top||

#3  A genuine monster. Hope they cremate.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/26/2006 7:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Somethings take far too long in this country. Sixteen years is far to long to determine guilt and punishment. I thought the guy admitted to the killings too. I guess the bleeding hearts get into the act and slow things down.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/26/2006 9:01 Comments || Top||

#5  he's dead, Jim. Not even his mother cares.
Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 12:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Funny, the state killed him and yet the sun rose in its appointed position precisely on time this morning.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/26/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Is that the same Steve White, the guy quoted by Instapundit all the time?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/26/2006 17:27 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Australia 'blessed' by Sheik: says visiting British Muslim
AUSTRALIA was blessed by the presence of the Muslim leader who compared immodest women to uncovered meat, sparking accusations that he condoned rape, a visiting British Muslim cleric has said.
Muslim leaders at Sydney's Lakemba mosque last night met for four hours to determine the fate of Sheik Taj Aldin Alhilali, who outraged Muslim community leaders and federal and state politicians with his comments, which he made during a Ramadan sermon last month.

Alluding to rapes in 2000 where four women were separately gang-raped by a group of young Muslim men, the sheik said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore makeup and inappropriate clothes, The Australian reported.

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?" the sheik asked.

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

"If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (head scarf), no problem would have occurred."

But British Muslim Council of Great Britain chairman Imam Abdul Jalil Sajid today said it appeared to him that the comments had been taken out of context.

"I know that he is one of the greatest Muslim scholars on earth and Australia is blessed with him, and I know he went to Iraq to get released an Australian national (Douglas Wood) from the clutches of a heinous regime at the time," Dr Sajid told the Nine Network's Today program.

"We have to appreciate and give him the credit with the result (Mr Wood's release) but I agree and take your point that he must communicate better.

"Probably his comments have been taken out of context.

"Probably he needs to restrain himself to get the words right before he says anything.

"Probably he needs to look into the wider implications of his comments. I think all these will take time. I have no doubt of his integrity, his leadership and also his belonging to this country, which he has adopted to live (in)."
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/26/2006 19:14 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds like the British Muslim needs a different home country as well. Beat the shit outta these mooks and deport em
Posted by: Frank G || 10/26/2006 21:05 Comments || Top||


Sheikh's sermons put on hold after making comments about women
The Lebanese Muslim Association says one of the nation's most senor clerics will not give sermons at Sydney's Lakemba Mosque for the next two to three months.

The association met last night to discuss controversial comments about women made by Sheikh Taj el-Din Al Hilaly.

Association president Tom Zreika says the board met the Sheikh last night and it accepts the comments he made during a sermon last month were misinterpreted.

But this morning Mr Zreika says some board members wanted stronger action taken against the Sheikh.

"There were a few items there we didn't fully accept," he said.

"Some people on the board would have liked to see more done but unfortunately we can only speak as a board."

Mr Zreika says the Sheikh will not be giving sermons at Lakemba Mosque for the next few months but he will not say whether the Sheikh agreed to this or whether the board imposed the suspension on him as punishment.

"It was a very, very intense meeting and you can take it either way," he said.

He says the Sheikh will issue a statement later today, clarifying his comments.

Parliamentary secretary for Multicultural Affairs Andrew Robb is outraged that stronger action has not been taken against the Sheikh.

Mr Robb says he believes there will be strong pressure from other Muslims for the Sheikh to be asked to resign.

"I must say I'm shocked - I'm quite angry about this and frustrated by this decision of a few leaders in Sydney to wipe their hands of this matter - I think it's unacceptable," he said.

"And I do suspect it in no way reflects the widespread disgust that I observed across the Muslim community around Australia yesterday."

Community Relations Commission chairman Stepan Kerkyasharian wrote to Sheikh Al Hilaly yesterday, asking him to explain the comments.

Mr Kerkyasharian says he is not satisfied with the Sheikh's and Muslim leaders' responses to the controversy.

"The original reported sermon was unquestionably, unquestionably about rape," he said.

"Now we're told that he will not be preaching for a few months - that sounds like a punishment and a suspension to me.

"I think someone needs to make a very clear statement as to what is really happening."
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/26/2006 19:10 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's face it - Muslims really believe that women who don't wear the burka are asking to be raped. In addition, of course, to the principle that raping infidels is something that Muhammad personally endorsed and engaged in. This is why Muslim youths gangraped several Australian women with the silent approval of the Muslim community.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/26/2006 22:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
GOP Blames Mich. Governor for Slayings
A campaign mailing from the Michigan Republican Party blames Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm and the state corrections director for a crime spree that resulted in the deaths of three people. The brochure has a photo of Patrick Selepak, who pleaded guilty to killing Melissa and Scott Berels of New Baltimore and Winfield Johnson of Genesee County's Vienna Township in February. The headline says: "This violent criminal was mistakenly released into your community."

"Governor Granholm and her state prison director. If they can't do the job, why are they still on the job?" the brochure says.

Selepak had been mistakenly released on a parole violation shortly before the killings because he had not had a hearing within 45 days. Several parole workers were disciplined, state rules were clarified and the corrections department has started a reorganization.

State Republican spokeswoman Sarah Anderson said several hundred thousand mailers were sent statewide. "Nobody's saying Granholm did this on purpose," Anderson told The Detroit News for a story Thursday. "Nobody's saying she put this murderer on the street. But as the state's CEO, the buck stops with her."

Michigan Democratic Party spokesman Jason Moon said the mailing shows Republicans are growing desperate as the Nov. 7 election nears. Granholm has a slight lead over her Republican opponent, Dick DeVos, in recent polls. GOP officials say they didn't consult with DeVos, though his campaign said the mailing is appropriate.

The state Supreme Court ruled in 2003 that parole violators do not need to be released even if they do not get a hearing within 45 days. A state review found that the mistake made in Selepak's case had been made 40 other times in the span of a year, including some cases involving inmates accused of committing crimes after their release.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/26/2006 15:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Editorial masquerading as a headline. Should read "GOP says Governor's incompetence led to release of Killer".
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/26/2006 17:16 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Allegedly abused pit bull may be put under...
Saw this in the paper someone left in the stall and couldn't beleve it.... YJCMTSU!
Pierce County Animal Control officials say a 4-year-old pit bull at the center of an alleged case of felony bestiality will likely be euthanized, prompting an outcry from animal-welfare groups. The pit bull, named Sara, has been kept in isolation at the Humane Society of Tacoma & Pierce County since shortly after a woman told police she photographed her husband having sex with the animal in the couple's Spanaway yard.
EEewwwwwww!
Michael Patrick McPhail, 26, was charged Thursday with one count of first-degree animal cruelty and later released. McPhail told authorities he was returning to his Spanaway home. Because one of the conditions of McPhail's release forbids him from having contact with animals, Sara and the family's other pit bull might never return home, said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.

Sayre said the dog bit someone earlier this year. Details were unavailable.
Gee... I can't imagine why the dog would want to bite people.....
In the week since McPhail's arrest, the Humane Society of Tacoma & Pierce County has received numerous calls from people interested in adopting Sara, Sayre said. Pierce County Deputy Prosecutor Karen Watson said Sara won't be euthanized while investigators gather "evidence" of her injuries as part of the case against McPhail. She said she doesn't know of any alleged abuse against the family's other pit bull.

McPhail was charged Thursday with first-degree animal cruelty. After catching McPhail with the dog, his wife snapped two photos with her cellphone camera, ...
Cause your just not gonna believe this shait!
... then dialed 911, authorities said.

McPhail is believed to be the first person in Washington state to be charged under a new law that makes bestiality a Class C felony, punishable by a maximum of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine. The law was spurred by the case of a Seattle man who died last year after having sex with a horse at an Enumclaw farm.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/26/2006 16:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Perhaps they ought to send this guy to Enumclaw to see how he likes it.
Posted by: gorb || 10/26/2006 16:41 Comments || Top||

#2  By law here in Tucson, adult pit bulls cannot be adopted out. It's a shame, as some as very sweet and friendly.
Posted by: Jackal || 10/26/2006 20:59 Comments || Top||


San Francisco to get free wi-fi for all! Or... not.
Link found via Gateway Pundit
Over the last two years, San Francisco has expressed an interest in bringing wireless internet access to the entire city, but two years later we are still arguing about how to get this done. It started in September 2004, when the San Francisco Board of Supervisors approved a resolution allocating $300,000 for the city to investigate various wifi options so that they could bring affordable internet access to the entire city. In January of 2005, Mayor Gavin Newsom used his state of the city address to show his committment to free wifi by declaring that “we will not stop until every San Franciscan has access to free wireless Internet service.”

Over the next year, the city studied the various issues associated with bringing free Wifi to the city and by December of 2005, the list of possible vendors had been narrowed down to 7 companies who offered formal proposals to the city. In April of 2006, the mayor announced that they had selected EarthLink and Google to help build and run the network at no cost to the city. At that time a lot of excitement and buzz was generated by the possibility of the citizens of San Francisco having free WiFi.

Unfortunately, as with a lot of things in San Francisco, politics once again seems to have derailed something that could have been so great.

Despite the announcement made last April free WiFi instead has turned out to be vaporware thus far with Google and Earthlink discovering that dealing with the local San Francisco political scene is about as fun as being set up on a blind date with Mike Tyson after being rubbed down in meat sauce.

The lunacy of San Francisco politics can take several forms and town hall meetings are sure to attract some of San Francisco’s craziest nut jobs. While I was surprised not to see San Francisco’s representative from the 12 galaxies, Frank Chu, attend the meeting, I did get to see Chris Sacca from Google face a parade of activist oddballs who neither understood technology nor the positive social impact that free wifi could bring to some of the city’s most disadvantaged citizens.

At the meeting, Sacca did an excellent job or remaining calm and explaining the technology in language that anyone could understand, still these local political gadflies seemed to feel that EarthLink and Google providing free WiFi to the citizens was akin to killing kittens because, they attacked Sacca with a venom that was absolutely shocking.

Some of the crazier demands that were suggested at the meeting included a “requirement” for every San Francisco renter to sign a lease addendum with their landlords before being allowed to install a WiFi card in their PC, forcing Google to agree to transport kids back and forth to the Zoo in their Google buses and a requirement for EarthLink to pay the electrical costs for running computers in order to prevent brownouts...
There's more, much more at the link.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/26/2006 09:58 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...Who's buying the poor and disadvantaged their laptops and WiFi subscriptions? Seems to me it doesn't matter whether or not you can get WiFi on Alcatraz, if you don't own a computer and don't have a WiFi account it ain't gonna matter.

Or should I just sit down, shut up, and color?

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/26/2006 13:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Damn, just got my boggle back and now this.

Wait... I'm getting cosmic vibrations... It decodes as:

SF is flypaper
Posted by: .com || 10/26/2006 13:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Poor Frank Chu (the "galaxies" guy) is the least of San Francisco's problems, and the least trouble among its crazies. He never makes trouble in public hearings, or ever says anything really. He just carries his sign. I see him nearly every day.

As for the rest, yes they are a big problem. They sue, they petition, they hog public meeting time, they threaten people right and left, they gum up the works. And the worst ones are the ones in public office.
Posted by: buwaya || 10/26/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||

#4  The whole idea is that SF will have its own free wireless ISP. The computers, etc. are not in the package.
Posted by: buwaya || 10/26/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL I just love San Francisco! They never fail to entertain. I can just imagine a public meeting there, it would look like something out of the Star Wars bar scene.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/26/2006 16:23 Comments || Top||

#6  The bar scene in Star Wars was actually filmed live in the old Eddie's Club in Gallup, New Mexico, which was a little north of the tracks on old US 666.
Posted by: Slaviger Angomong7708 || 10/26/2006 18:14 Comments || Top||


YJCMTSU: Girls' room his, too
Transgender men free to use ALL of MTA's loos
The line for the girls' room just got longer. Men who live as women can now legally use women's rest rooms in New York's transit system under an unprecedented deal revealed yesterday.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression," the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund announced yesterday. The group filed a complaint against the MTA on behalf of a 70-year-old telephone repair technician who was arrested for using the women's room at Grand Central Terminal.

The technician, who is assigned to the terminal by Verizon, was born Henry McGuinness but now goes by Helena Stone. "I'm a 24-hour woman," Stone declared proudly. "I just feel like a woman and I like to wear women's clothes."

The MTA would not comment on the settlement but Stone's lawyer said it also includes mandatory transgender sensitivity training for MTA employees and a $2,000 payment to the technician for legal fees. Michael Sullivan, Stone's lawyer, called the settlement of the complaint with the Human Rights Commission a "milestone" toward recognition of the city law that prohibits discrimination against transgender men and women.

But some Metro-North riders at Grand Central yesterday were stunned by the ruling. "I would not like that," said Gloria David, a retiree from Connecticut. "I have nothing against gay men or drag queens, but they can use the men's room. I just don't want to go to the bathroom next to a man."

One rider feared predators might dress as women and lurk in the women's room.

But Rena Gantz, 23, a properly indoctrinated college student, shrugged off the settlement. "It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."
Simply brilliant.
Posted by: .com || 10/26/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Something tells me that if Rena were to see the "Loretta" scene in Life of Brian, she wouldn't get the joke.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 10/26/2006 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  "Where's the Palestine Liberation front?"

"He's over there..."
Posted by: badanov || 10/26/2006 0:54 Comments || Top||

#3  mandatory transgender sensitivity : check.
$2,000 payment : check.
law that prohibits discrimination : check (see two above).

Yup, all is going swell, along the lines defined by the Forces of Progress.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/26/2006 3:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Does this mean a bull dyke can use the men's room?

One would think.
Posted by: Mark Z || 10/26/2006 6:14 Comments || Top||

#5  I can see why women don't want to go potty with a 6'4" 250 pound "gal" in a dress, pony tail and falsies. And yes I did see that in a large corporate environment and took all my self control to keep from falling down laughing.
Posted by: ed || 10/26/2006 6:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Why bother having restrooms segregated by sex? It would save money and lawyers valuable time if we just had one ditch on the side of the road for everyone.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/26/2006 6:29 Comments || Top||

#7  By the way, I've always wondered : which lavatory does Ranma use?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/26/2006 7:03 Comments || Top||

#8  "Hey, GK, look over there. Is that a woman or a man?"
"If there's any doubt about it, I ain't interested."
Posted by: GK || 10/26/2006 8:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Next up: A $1,000 fine for laughing at a tranny.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/26/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#10  The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression,"...

Rhetorical question. So you're at the Streisand concert at the Garden, Helena, and the line for the lady's room is out the door. There is no line at the men's room.
How "consistent is your gender expression" now?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/26/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#11  Oh, enough already, just do your business in the bushes, and let's be done with that!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/26/2006 10:49 Comments || Top||

#12  The result of this in airports etc. will be lounges with individual toilet rooms and the mirrors and wash sinks being shared by for both sexes. And the best part about it will be that men will have to wait in line just like the we do ;-)
Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 12:30 Comments || Top||

#13  How Vicious! Vindictive! Vengeful! Venomous!

You aren't my ex, are ya?

;->
Posted by: .com || 10/26/2006 12:36 Comments || Top||

#14  That's not what I hear. Unisex bathrooms will be lined only with stand up troughs. Then men will get to complain about women's aim.
Posted by: ed || 10/26/2006 12:37 Comments || Top||

#15  Think this through, Ed. Do you guys REALLY want your mothers, wives, aunts to be there and insist you wash your hands afterwards???
Posted by: lotp || 10/26/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#16  It could be a problem about the toilet seat up and down issue, but pretty soon they will have minders to make sure you all pee sitting down.
Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 12:41 Comments || Top||

#17  I will tell dear ole granny I already washed my hands in the bowl.

Anon, you laugh now.
Posted by: ed || 10/26/2006 12:50 Comments || Top||

#18  that is so funny - I was thinking about making up a snarky comment along those lines but truth is stranger than fiction!

Things won't really be "equal" in the true sense of the word today, until the lesbians win their inevitable demand that you have to cut it off and give it to them.
Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 13:15 Comments || Top||

#19  Lol, ed. So, um, it just means they'll be "trained" not to lift the lid, first...
Posted by: .com || 10/26/2006 13:21 Comments || Top||

#20  FRANCIS: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry.
REG: What's the point?
FRANCIS: What?
REG: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?!
FRANCIS: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
REG: Symbolic of his struggle against reality.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/26/2006 14:20 Comments || Top||

#21  Something like this really happened at Motorola in Los Angeles during the 80s. Once again it was the women who objected.

We had a DBA who was changing genders (it was a 2 year process), and the question came up which room "it" should use.

He wanted to be called Sheila, but everyone called him "He-la".

Al
Posted by: frozen al || 10/26/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||


N.J. rules same-sex couples should get same rights as heterosexuals
Gay couples should have access to the same rights as heterosexual married couples, New Jersey's Supreme Court ruled today. But it's possible that lawmakers will designate civil unions, not marriage, as the route to provide such rights. "Only rights that are deeply rooted in the traditions, history, and conscience of the people are deemed to be fundamental. Although we cannot find that a fundamental right to same-sex marriage exists in this state, the unequal dispensation of rights and benefits to committed same-sex partners can no longer be tolerated under our State Constitution," said the ruling, written by Associate Justice Barry Albin.

The high court gave lawmakers 180 days to rewrite marriage laws to either include same-sex couples or create a new system of civil unions for them. The decision was similar to one made by justices in Vermont in 1999. That state created civil unions.
Posted by: Fred || 10/26/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I love you, Johnnycakes.
Posted by: Vito Spatafore || 10/26/2006 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  'Gay marriage' is about money and only about money. Were it honestly debated as such I would have much less of a problem with 'gay marriage' were its proponents to drop the rampant deception that occurs at present all over the world whenever this subject is brought up.

I can't recall anyone ever being honest about this. Any agenda that requires its proponents to be systematically dishonest should always be opposed.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/26/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Then, let us get real honest. Marrige is part of Institution. There is a line that cannot be crossed there.

The Constitution of the United States of America adds equal rights under the law.

The state has no right to impose it's view of Marrige on the Church - but as so often, the ability to do so exists.

There is an overreach for rights which is not necessary.

What is disgraceful is when those who live with same sex partners are denied access to the hospital, Funeral, quarters, Property rights, and other major legal areas due to sex or familial approval because of a families denial. Love is not a political statement, nor should it become a state of depravity and loss.

The state may not impose upon church same sex marrige, nor may the church prevent God from recognizing someones love for another.

I have an odd feeling that this argument is at the forefront for little other reason than what you said Phil; Money. If so, rott their souls. All of em.

But by bill of rights, persue Civil unions. I back civil union.

They need to wait for the Marrige part until a better time, like when they won't all get killed under shiria law because they were gay and did not understand that they do not have a good history of forming or maintaining wholesome families.

I think the timing for this argument is very wrong considering that we fight for the ability to even have a beer after work, or an elected government for that matter.
Posted by: closedanger@hotmail.com || 10/26/2006 1:30 Comments || Top||

#4  It's a lie. Gay folks have the exact right that everyone else does. To find a nice partner of the opposite sex and marry them. The law applies to all and should. This ruling applies only to gay people. It's wrong.
Posted by: badanov || 10/26/2006 1:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Bad, you see the need for no "Special rights" if there is Equal rights under the law then.
I agree.

Marrige is between a man and a woman.
Posted by: closedanger@hotmail.com || 10/26/2006 2:19 Comments || Top||

#6  What really concerns me is the rights of people who have sex with dead dogs hit by cars! What about their rights? Are they not people too?
Posted by: anon || 10/26/2006 2:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Once the State(s) formally surrenders, the next step is to demand that the State-Fed withdraw any and all tax breaks + other for mainstream organized religion. As said times before, the greatest/ultimate threat to America as we know it is from within. Hardline activists don't give a damn that SOCIALISM-GOVERNMENTISM > temporary boons/benefits in return for long-term detriment regressions, + national-societal weakness. I may be wrong, but I believe that it was MARK STEYN??? whom said that the WORLD AS WE KNOW IT IS ENDING, THAT NON-NATURAL FORCES/POWERS THAT BE ARE [SELFISHLY] FORCING THE WORLD TO END, and that THE FUTURE GLOBALIST WORLD WILL BE ONE OF DARKNESS, a GLOBAL DARK AGE(S) + AGE OF IGNORANCE-STATISM willfully and deliberately imposed upon the world by itself, or words to that effect. * Once SOCIALIST ANTI-AMERICAN AMERIKAN WASHINGTON DC = USSA-USR starts runing out of $$$ ala Cold War USSR-Commie Bloc, Amerika will start "cutting back" and taking thingys = rights away ala HILLARY'S "TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU" SPEECH. LEFT > America is the only one that can make Socialism Utopianism-Globalism work, ergo America = Amerika is the only one that has to give up its sovereignty, independence, + endowments for the good of the world. OUR DESTABILIZATION, DEFEAT, _ DESTRUCTION IS FOR OUR OWN GOOD. OWG + SOCIALISM NOW, SSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH EXPLANATION-JUSTIFICATION TO AMERICAN = AMERIKAN VOTERS LATER = NEVER. National Cantonization/Enclavization would be funny iff the Lefties actually believed = intended to obey their own agenda.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/26/2006 4:08 Comments || Top||

#8  "I may be wrong, but I believe that it was MARK STEYN??? whom said that the WORLD AS WE KNOW IT IS ENDING, THAT NON-NATURAL FORCES/POWERS THAT BE ARE [SELFISHLY] FORCING THE WORLD TO END, and that THE FUTURE GLOBALIST WORLD WILL BE ONE OF DARKNESS, a GLOBAL DARK AGE(S) + AGE OF IGNORANCE-STATISM willfully and deliberately imposed upon the world by itself, or words to that effect."

That should read "who" -- Mark Steyn who.
Posted by: Rory B. Bellows || 10/26/2006 4:15 Comments || Top||

#9  "The state has no right to impose it's view of Marrige on the Church"

Nope, the CHURCH has no right to impose it's view of marriage on the state.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 10/26/2006 6:31 Comments || Top||

#10  What really concerns me is the rights of people who have sex with dead dogs hit by cars! What about their rights? Are they not people too?

They have the right to be bitten by rabid dogs and have their throats torn out slowly by our leader, while the rest of the pack tears at their living flesh.
Posted by: the Pack || 10/26/2006 7:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Are they gonna make a new licence plate for the state too???? NEW JERSEY "THE HOMO STATE" or have the MASSHOLES got that one?????
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 10/26/2006 9:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Hey, in Massachusetts we're just grateful it's not mandatory...yet.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/26/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#13  "the unequal dispensation of rights and benefits to committed same-sex partners can no longer be tolerated under our State Constitution."

Does this mean anyone can sue for equal "benefits" as well? Maybe I can get a health insurance package that has better eye and dental coverage. Those retirement and GI benefits look mighty tasty as well.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 10/26/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#14  I want to marry Teddy Kennedy so I can inherit his money. And also John Kerry. It's my right.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/26/2006 11:21 Comments || Top||

#15  And so do I! But, it is also my right to keep this polygamous same-sex marriage on a purely platonical level, just to be clear on that.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/26/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#16  But which one gets to screw over the other in a divorce?
Posted by: mojo || 10/26/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#17  The defense of marriage is not 'discrimination.' Marriage has for millennia meant the union of a man and a woman. To label the defense of that age-old standard 'discrimination' is to indict the grand sweep of human history and every civilized nation that has ever existed. Attempts to raise the red herring of 'bias,' only debase public debate and distort the central question, which is, whether marriage is a malleable social construct silly putty in the hands of judges to be reshaped as they deem fit or whether marriage is what it has been since creation, the union of one man and one woman for life.

If it is, as proponents suggest, discrimination to deny same-sex couples the privilege of marriage, then it is also discrimination to deny the privilege to anyone else who wants to get married. Who else wants to get married but is denied by the state? Many people. And as soon as this taboo is broken, watch them line up.

How long do you suppose it will be, once same-sex marriage is a reality, before brothers want to marry sisters? How long do you suppose it will be before sisters want to marry sisters? How long do you suppose it will be before brothers want to marry brothers?

How many same-sex marriage advocates want to go down that road?

If incestuous marriages don't scare you off, how about marriages involving more than two people? What possible reason could we find for "discriminating" against threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes, etc.?

A man in Great Britain was in the news a few years back who wanted to marry his dog. How could we possibly "discriminate" against an idea like that?

The truth is that most of us do believe in discrimination. In fact, we discriminate every day when we make choices. I'm not sure you can live without discriminating – between good food and bad, between safe conduct and unsafe conduct, etc.

Discrimination can be a good thing – a necessary component of life. It's a bad thing only when we use it prejudicially against people because of immutable circumstances – like the color of their skin.

People who are homosexuals, transsexuals, transgendered people, intersexuals, lesbians and metrosexuals are characterized in those ways because of their conduct, their behavior, their choices.

Those folks have exactly the same rights as heterosexuals. They can marry one member of the opposite sex. No one forces them to do so. But they have that right.

This system has worked pretty well for the last 6,000 years. We tamper with it at great peril to our society.

Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/26/2006 14:31 Comments || Top||

#18  I tried to get domestic partner benefits from my girlfriend's employer (Cook County, Illinois). They replied that we had to either be married or of the same sex. Don't I have a genuine equal protection argument?
Posted by: Mark E. || 10/26/2006 15:04 Comments || Top||

#19  I for one think there ought to be a civil union option between two people of any persuasion. And I think people ought to be either married or party to a civil union before they are eligible for benefits from their partner's work.

Until this happens, Mark E., I suggest you go to Thailand and get one of those sex change operations. Just be sure to keep your penis on ice until then or in case you change your mind. :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/26/2006 16:50 Comments || Top||

#20  mcsgeek1 hits the nail on the head. And some wacko from the Church of What's Happening Now is going to come along with his revelation that if multiple wives were OK for Abraham, they're OK for everyone. And based on the logic of this opinion, they're going to have a hard time stopping it in NJ. Cause they're in a loving arrangement. This will nnot stand, and the gays may not be happy with the way it ends.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/26/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#21  This will nnot stand, and the gays may not be happy with the way it ends.

As long as it ends...
Posted by: badanov || 10/26/2006 17:34 Comments || Top||

#22  I think corporations should be treated the same as other kinds of persons. I want to marry Exxon!
Posted by: Slaviger Angomong7708 || 10/26/2006 18:17 Comments || Top||

#23  No you don't, Slaviger Angomong7708. Exxon is forever spilling things, and you really don't want to be responsible for the cleanup.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/26/2006 20:43 Comments || Top||



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