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Government Corruption
Trump Absolutely DESTROYS Lawless NYC Judge Engoron After Case Collapses
[THEGATEWAYPUNDIT] President Trump used his Constitutional right to Free Speech on Friday to go off on the crooked Judge Arthur Engoron, New York State Attorney General Letitia James for continuing this lawfare suit against President Trump and his family after the star witness testified this week that there is zero evidence that President Trump misrepresented the value of his assets to gain business loans for his company.
Oh? How very interesting.
There is no victim in this lawsuit. President Trump paid off each loan and the banks admitted they would readily loan him money for future projects.
Hmmmm....
Engoron is the same bizarre and unhinged judge who opened the garbage trial against Donald Trump
...His ancestors didn't own any slaves...
and his business empire by giggling to the cameras.

The case never should have been filed. This is lawfare at its worst. The prosecution even had the gall to suggest that Mar-a-Lago, one of the most expensive properties in the world, was only worth $18 million. This judge and this lawsuit is a sick joke.

It appears the only criminal activity in the case was by Letitia James after she misrepresented the numbers and filed an outrageously dishonest suit against Trump and his business empire with no evidence.

Trump went off on Truth Social on Friday, saying the judge "HAS GONE CRAZY IN HIS HATRED OF "TRUMP."

President Donald Trump: The Judge in the New York State A.G. case refuses to accept the overturning of his decisions by the Appeals Court. This is a first in the history of the State! HE HAS GONE CRAZY IN HIS HATRED OF "TRUMP." Also, their "STAR" witness just admitted his statements were all a big lie. He broke down in court. The Radical Left Judge said he doesn’t care. He is trying to protect RACIST A.G. Letitia James, who has no case, lost the appeal, but has a tyrannical and unhinged Trump Hating Judge. She campaigned for A.G. on, "I Will Get Trump," long before she knew anything about me. This is Judicial Misconduct, coupled with Prosecutorial Misconduct, and somebody from the State of New York must step in and stop this Complete & Total Miscarriage of Justice!
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I heard Engoron was a McDonalds model during law school.

Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Too bad it's a Gateway Pundit "story."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 6:57 Comments || Top||

#3  After 2024 we will need to clarify the legal status of past office holders. There needs to be some accountability for guys like Fauci and Biden for turning their offices into ATMs. There needs to also be some protection for office holders against every prosecutor in the country launching rogue political cases. Our Legislative branch is broken, so I don’t see an easy fix. A Constitutional Convention featuring AOC, ANTIFA and Dan Crenshaw seems like a bad idea.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/29/2023 10:56 Comments || Top||

#4  He is challenging the judge. I love it. The judge fined him. Trump immediately called him out. The judge is either beat by Trump or the judge will have to jail him for contempt. Nice play...
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/29/2023 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5 
Posted by: ACA JOE || 10/29/2023 13:36 Comments || Top||

#6  That was my question from Day One: Who exactly did Trump defraud? And why did none of the people that he "defrauded" bring any action against him?
Posted by: Tom || 10/29/2023 14:43 Comments || Top||

#7  I don't know what the law says in NYC.

§ Section 265b of the German Criminal Code criminalizes certain acts of deception in connection with certain loan applications. In this context, the lender must have been deceived about the borrower's financial circumstances when a loan application was made.

Three types of conduct qualify as deception:

The credit fraudster makes false statements in a credit application.
He or she submits incorrect or incomplete documentation.
The deceiver fails to report a deterioration in the financial circumstances.

It doesn't matter whether you actually fully paid back your loan. The fraud could still be prosecuted.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 15:07 Comments || Top||

#8  ^I understand that the bank in question is a German one.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/29/2023 15:16 Comments || Top||

#9  EC, by that standard every home owner in America is guilty of felony fraud. They used the valuation for property taxes vs. the loan estimated value to show the fraud. My home, for example is valued at $400k on the market, yet its tax value is $230k. If I get a loan for the 400, I would be in the same boat as Trump. In America, this is how homes, large and small are bought or financed, by market value, not tax value.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/29/2023 15:23 Comments || Top||

#10  Valuation is a tricky issue. But when you say your apartment has 30,000 square feet, when it actually has 10,996 square feet, you're in trouble.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 15:32 Comments || Top||

#11  ^ True, but irrelevant in this matter. As I understand, the issue is the valuation of the collateral properties, not the square footage. Corrections welcome.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/29/2023 15:59 Comments || Top||

#12  "He has to be guilty because I want him to be" is a lame argument.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 16:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Any responsible lender does their own evaluation - this is a bogus suit promised in James' election campaign. Should be thrown out in a nano-second
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 16:27 Comments || Top||

#14  "Assessed value " has no bearing on "market value". That is Real Estate 101. Anyone attempting to argue to the contrary is turning a blind eye to the basics.
Posted by: Crusader || 10/29/2023 17:19 Comments || Top||

#15  ^turning a blind eye to the basics

Like gender fluidity?
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/29/2023 17:25 Comments || Top||

#16  From a Fortune article


"Donald Trump’s corporate executives once boosted the estimated worth of his Trump Tower penthouse by $20 million partly because of the value of his celebrity, according to trial testimony Thursday.

Another $100 million hike in the estimate was based on a single email from a real estate broker, who hadn’t commissioned an appraisal, didn’t inspect the triplex and was told it was three times its actual size.

[...]

But McConney’s testimony came with evidence that the documents were integral to some of Trump’s loan deals. In letters shown in the court, McConney told a bank that he was providing Trump’s 2015 and 2016 financial statements as required under the conditions of a loan for his Seven Springs estate north of New York City.

[...]

McConney reasoned that there was no “right way” to determine valuations and that it was appropriate to calculate the value of Trump’s apartment based on asking prices instead of sales prices as appraisals do.

https://fortune.com/2023/10/06/donald-trump-organization-corporate-controller-court-boosted-value-tower-penthouse-20m-celebrity/
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 17:27 Comments || Top||

#17  Is it common, EC that Pols campaigning as Prosecutors would declare that, if elected, they would pursue a political business organization? That alone, should have disallowed this travesty
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 17:32 Comments || Top||

#18  Frank G, that's indeed a very American speciality. In Germany prosecutors are not elected by the people and therefore don't campaign.

To clarify: Appraisals of high value real estate is notoriously difficult.

If I want to put down a modest apartment as a collateral, this would be quite easy, as there are enough sales of similar properies to establish are more or less realistic value.

An outstanding posh mansion in the heart of Munich? Much more difficult. Evaluations may differ dramatically, because you may not have sales to campare it with.

But if I send my bank an evaluation made by a real estate agent who has never seen the property, and the evaluation says the property is three times bigger than it actually is... that would be a problem.

Trump's case is probably even more complicated because Deutsche Bank wanted to do business with him and might have known that Trump's statements had to be taken with more than a grain of salt. Due diligence and all that.

I haven't studied the details of this case, so I won't judge.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 17:55 Comments || Top||

#19  "similar properties to establish a more or less realistic value."

Sorry, mobile phone.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 17:56 Comments || Top||

#20  Excellent comment at 18.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 18:02 Comments || Top||

#21  Dank u well, Besoeker.
Actually if Deutsche Bank KNEW that Trump's appraisals were not realistic but didn't verify, there's no fraud.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 18:05 Comments || Top||

#22  Political Persecution, Period.
Posted by: Enver Dingle4916 || 10/29/2023 18:11 Comments || Top||

#23  Judges and prosecutors, whether elected or appointed all go native once installed.

Elected / appointed. A distinction without a difference.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 18:20 Comments || Top||

#24  This may not be fraud either. But tell me it doesn't smell bad. Go on, tell me...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 18:22 Comments || Top||

#25  As part of the New York civil investigation of the Trump Organization a New York court has found that from 2011 to 2021 Mar-a-Lago has been assessed by Palm Beach County as having a value from $18 million to $27.6 million, while at the same time Trump's financial statements has valued it from $427 million to $627 million as part of an alleged scheme to both lower insurance premiums and to get favorable loan terms. In contrast, leading area real estate experts have estimated the property could be worth as much as $1 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago

The more you pay, the more it's worth (Don McLean)
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 18:41 Comments || Top||

#26  That's cute, EC. If the bank's didn't self-evaluate and agree, it's all bullshit, no matter what you site? Were the loans paid? Yes.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 21:05 Comments || Top||

#27  I find it interesting the the aggrieved party in this suit is not the bank, as one might assume. Apparently, they merrily went along with the deal and in no way feel defrauded. Instead the State of New York is quibbling over an estimated number on a form. I bet that "no ex post facto laws" thing in the Constitution is just killing them.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/29/2023 21:27 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Strategist James Carville Claims Top Democrats Are Telling Him to Shut Up About Biden's Dismal Polling Numbers
[Breitbart via Gateway] Democrat strategist James Carville, also known as the Ragin’ Cajun, was part of the team that helped Bill Clinton win the presidency twice.

You may not agree with his politics, but he definitely knows the business of elections and how to win.

Carville is trying to sound the alarm to members of his party about Joe Biden’s awful poll numbers but claims he is being told by top Dems to shut up about it.

Breitbart News reports:

Democrat Leaders Pressure Strategist to Shut Up About Joe Biden’s Low Polling Numbers

A prominent Democrat strategist claims that "leading" party members are pressuring him to shut up about President Joe Biden’s low polling numbers in the lead-up to the 2024 election.

James Carville, a long-time political consultant who worked on both Bill and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaigns, told the Atlantic that Biden’s numbers are "not good" and that Democrats are trying to get him to stop talking about it.

In a Friday article about Rep. Dean Phillips’ (D-MN) newly announced bid to primary Biden, Carville said that his own party members are telling him to hush up about the difficulty the president is facing in his reelection attempt, but not because he’s wrong — his words are just upsetting them.

"Nobody is saying, ’James, you’re wrong,’" he said. "They’re saying, ’James, you can’t say that.’"

"I’m looking at polling data, and I’m looking at all of it. The president’s numbers are just not good—and they’re not getting any better," he argued.

Are Democrats in complete denial or do they know something that the rest of us don’t?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 02:53 || Comments || Link || [29 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Are Democrats in complete denial or do they know something that the rest of us don’t?

They know something that the rest of us don’t. Unfortunately, for them, what they know ain't true.
Posted by: Grom the Reflective || 10/29/2023 4:13 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: Otto Gurly-Brown9938 || 10/29/2023 7:14 Comments || Top||

#3  What ever happened to Jim's wife ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 7:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I wish Carville would completely shut up.
Posted by: Chris || 10/29/2023 8:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Carville is the one democrat i actually respect. The fact he is getting flak indicates he is right on target.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/29/2023 8:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Joe is mentally degraded with no chance of rebounding. The degradation appears to be logarithmic rather than linear. He needs a med trip to Delaware on almost a weekly basis. His poll numbers are not going to be what gets him.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/29/2023 11:26 Comments || Top||

#7  He is making it harder to justify the Biden "Win" after they cheat like hell.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/29/2023 13:06 Comments || Top||

#8  James Carville always struck me as an "honest prostitute" : he is loyal to the Democrats and speaks his mind (mostly). Carville is speaking now only because he thinks Cackles and Senile are bad for the Democratic Party ...not any real public sentiment for the rest of us.
Posted by: magpie || 10/29/2023 19:48 Comments || Top||

#9  What ever happened to Jim's wife ?

Mary Matalin traded the Republican party for the Libertarians in 2016. Nowadays she mostly is a pundit and sits on the boards of various organizations.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2023 20:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Thx TW.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 23:09 Comments || Top||


Former Vice President Mike Pence suspends his 2024 presidential bid
[MSN]Who would know?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under:

#1 

Lord of the Flies
Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Yea, Pence political career was over the second he pulled a 'Brutus' on Trump.

We don't need this traitor pulling the same shit to America.
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 10/29/2023 5:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Good. Now go away.
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/29/2023 9:59 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm sure there's a spot as a 'conservative' opinion provider on MSNBC or CNN for you.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/29/2023 10:04 Comments || Top||

#5  /\ Indeed. Chronic narcissism and addiction to power will prevent a full retirement from public life.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 10:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, but will Kinzinger and Cheney put up with him trying to hog their act.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 10:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Puppet Show
Mike Pence Campaign
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/29/2023 11:00 Comments || Top||

#8  The fly is still running.
Posted by: European Conservative || 10/29/2023 13:36 Comments || Top||


Pence hit with cluebat, ends campaign for the White House after struggling to gain traction
Heralded by some as the smartest political move of his entire life.
NEW YORK (AP) — Former Vice President Mike Pence on Saturday dropped his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, ending his campaign for the White House after struggling to raise money and gain traction in the polls.

"After much prayer and deliberation, I have decided to suspend my campaign for president effective today," Pence said at the Republican Jewish Coalition gathering in Las Vegas. "We always knew this would be an uphill battle, but I have no regrets," he said.

Pence becomes the first major candidate to leave a race that has been dominated by his former boss-turned-rival, Donald Trump.

The decision, more than two months before the Iowa caucuses that he had staked his campaign on, saves Pence from the embarrassment of failing to qualify for the third Republican primary debate, Nov. 8 in Miami.

But the withdrawal is a huge blow for a politician who spent years biding his time as Trump’s most loyal lieutenant, only to be scapegoated during their final days in office when Trump became convinced that Pence somehow had the power to overturn the results of the 2020 election and keep both men in office — not something a vice president could do.

While Pence averted a constitutional crisis by rejecting the scheme, he drew Trump’s fury, as well as the wrath of many of Trump’s supporters who believed his lies and still see Pence as a traitor.

Among Trump critics, meanwhile, Pence was seen as an enabler who defended the former president at every turn and refused to criticize even Trump’s most indefensible actions time and again.

As a result, an Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research from August found that the majority of U.S. adults, 57%, viewed Pence negatively, with only 28% having a positive view.

Throughout his campaign, the former Indiana governor and congressman had insisted that while he was well-known by voters, he was not "known well" and set out to change that with an aggressive schedule that included numerous stops at diners and Pizza Ranch restaurants.
Who would know?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2023 00:00 || Comments || Link || [21 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
His Campaign Failed.
Could it be because he turned traitor to Cover His ASSets?

Posted by: NN2N1 || 10/29/2023 9:54 Comments || Top||

#2  He's always had the thrilling representation of a warm bowl of curdled milk
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 10:37 Comments || Top||

#3  On the old National Lampoon Radio Hour, there were fake commercials. In one, the sonorous basso voice of the announcer says:

"How about a nice, lukewarm bowl of rancid garbage? Hmmm?"
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 10:48 Comments || Top||

#4  At this point, the Never Trump donors will be trying to consolidate their efforts towards something viable. They will open theirDunkin Donut box to make a selection and realize that it contains only dog turds. The next play will be Youngkin. I can see them canceling the laser debates. In the end, they will settle with RFK Jr after the demolition derby ends.
Posted by: Super Hose || 10/29/2023 11:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Younkin can run for VA gov again after sitting out a term. DeSantis, OTOH is probably done forever politically at this point.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 12:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Early in the initial process I looked at a "possible" Trump/ DeSantis winning ticket.

But that fell apart when Mr. D. wanted the #1 spot from the start. Instead of waiting 4 years.

Leaving me and most of the voters wondering who Trump will pick as VP?

Surely no DC Swamper can be trusted.
Given the wave of Traitors quickly covering their ASSets, we have seen already.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 10/29/2023 13:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Trump has a nearly perfect track record of picking backstabbers. I don't see that changing at this late date.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/29/2023 13:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes, but to be fair DC is pederfeelia for ugly people.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/29/2023 13:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Trump has a nearly perfect track record of picking backstabbers.

So many of them were foisted upon him by the usual suspects. He trusted the supposed 'experts' in the RNC and Washington the first time. I don't believe that will happen again.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/29/2023 14:49 Comments || Top||

#10  ^ IIRC Chris Christie (R-Donuts) recommended Chris Wray. Nuff said
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 16:25 Comments || Top||

#11  VP - Giuliani or Johnson.
Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 21:00 Comments || Top||

#12  IMNSHO: DeSantis as VP could ensure GOP control for 12 years
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 21:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Or Van Duyne.
Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 21:04 Comments || Top||

#14  uh huh... WTF?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2023 21:06 Comments || Top||

#15  I get a weekly news letter from her. Van Duyne has huge numbers of meetings with many police, medical, different race groups, and tries to get Dems interested in legislation from the right. She has many Dem allies. As mayor she won over moderate Islamists. She defeated the Islamist "clock boy" lawsuit. She is new to Congress but is aggressive behind the scenes without drawing attention of the leftist media. She is smart. But at the same time you don't want to mess with her.

https://twitter.com/seanspicershow/status/1714038513057075294/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1714038513057075294¤tTweetUser=seanspicershow
Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 21:17 Comments || Top||

#16  She is new to Congress

Gove her a decade to season, then look at her for something bigger.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2023 21:23 Comments || Top||

#17  Respectfully Disagree. In the "Facebook Updates" section below are just a few events she was a part of during the past week or so. Sorry but with Trump about to go to jail over today's rampant leftist political persecution, we don't have "ten years".

https://vanduyne.house.gov/
Posted by: Captain Splat8849 || 10/29/2023 21:30 Comments || Top||



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