ALMOST a quarter of British Muslims say the 7/7 bombings can be justified because of the Government's support for the war on terror, according to an opinion poll. And nearly half of those polled, or 45 per cent, believe the 9/11 attacks on New York were a conspiracy between the United States and Israel.
A third of those questioned said they would rather live under Sharia law in the UK than British law.
The survey, for a Channel 4 Dispatches documentary to be screened tonight, found Muslims under 24 were twice as likely to justify the 7/7 attacks as those aged over 45. It found 24 per cent either agreed or tended to agree that the 7/7 bombings were justified, although 48 per cent said they "strongly disagreed". A third of those questioned said they would rather live under Sharia law in the UK than British law. The survey also reveals concerns among Muslims about Britain's moral standards, with 40 per cent saying it is a country of bad moral behaviour.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[2 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
I wonder what percentage of real Brits think its justified to make Islam illegal.
#5
Pebbles, you are such a gentle soul... That would cost a bundle. You need to find more economical approach. How about deportation to the place of origin?
#7
I know, I know, some were born in UK. How about this... They have to go to Mekkka at least once in their life. How about accomodating and facilitating their religious duty by airdrop over Mekkka. No shoots necessary, Allan will provide, no doubt about it.
#8
They already cost a bundle. 90% are on benefits. The net difference would be very low, and the security boost/crime lowering/cultural improvement resulting from it would offset this.
#9
How about voting rather than blowing yourselves to bits to make a political point? How about getting a job to relieve the poverty in your community? How about speaking English to help you get on in society? Nope, not interested. F*ck off then.
Posted by: Howard UK ||
08/08/2006 8:10 Comments ||
Top||
#10
Howard UK: How do you REALLY feel? I'd like to see the MSM take a poll of UK citizens who have been there for 4-5 generations and see the outcomes of what they feel about Islam. These polls, while I'm highly skeptical of them, don't bode well for our cousins across the pond. Godspeed and happy huntin' dear Brits.
Posted by: BA ||
08/08/2006 9:18 Comments ||
Top||
#11
"A third of those questioned said they would rather live under Sharia law in the UK than British law."
In that case, why not swap 'em for the suffering non-muslims living in Indonesia, Pakistan and even Malaysia, for example? There'll be takers from over there.
#13
What more proof do the Brits and European want as to where their country is going. Prayer rugs anyone?
Posted by: Art ||
08/08/2006 10:18 Comments ||
Top||
#14
These polls, while I'm highly skeptical of them
Indeed BA! Its not that the conclusions asserted of this poll are implausible. But can someone explain how the polling solicitors can ethically claim that the respondents of one isolated poll translates into an entire segment of the population? On the rare occasions Ive been asked to participate in a poll, I always have something more important to do. (You know like clip my toenails or something.)
#15
Good point, Depot Guy. 44 percent of those polled simply hang up without comment. Polls are also slanted for results by the questions and by the phone numbers called.
recently, in Lebanon, a poll was taken asking if people support Hezbollah. Those called thought it was Hezbollah calling, so they said 'sure, love 'em'.
If I were a pollster, I would take a poll like an IQ test. Results:
Among group1, people who cannot think for themselves, global warming is the top issue.
Among group2, educated, the war on terror is the top issue.
Among group3, self-educated, the war against Islam is the top issue.
Among group1, coporate America is the enemy.
Among group2, American imperialism is the enemy.
Among group3, stupidity is the enemy.
Israel on Monday said it had ordered its ambassador to Venezuela to return home for consultations, following last week's recall to Caracas of Venezuela's Israel envoy, in protest at what President Hugo Chavez called Israel's "genocide" in Lebanon.
We have a problem with the leadership in Caracas that hugs the Iranian president who calls for the annihilation of Israel.
Chavez, an outspoken left-wing leader, has angered Israel with his display of affection for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has repeatedly called for Israel's destruction. "We are disturbed by the one-sided Middle East approach of the president of Venuleza," Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev told The Associated Press. "We have a problem with the leadership in Caracas that hugs the Iranian president who calls for the annihilation of Israel."
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[1 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Yep, that could be a problem for diplomacy
Posted by: Captain America ||
08/08/2006 0:48 Comments ||
Top||
MOSCOW, Aug 8 (Reuters) - The Kremlin on Tuesday branded U.S. sanctions against two leading Russian arms exporters "an unfriendly act" and warned they could rebound on U.S.-Russia relations.
The United States announced sanctions on Friday on seven firms from Russia, India, North Korea and Cuba for selling restricted items to Iran, which Washington fears is trying to make nuclear weapons.
The sanctions were imposed on Russian state export agency -- Rosoboronexport headed by a close friend of President Vladimir Putin -- and state-owned warplane maker Sukhoi.
"This looks like unfair competition. It was an unfriendly act towards Russia and it was not done in a spirit of cooperation," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
"If we are to speak about possible consequences of this act for bilateral relations, of course it has not contributed to a further strengthening of the partnership. Among other things we can not rule out further negative consequences for this relationship," he said.
The U.S. State Department said it imposed the sanctions after Washington received information the companies had transferred materials to Iran that could contribute to the development of weapons of mass destruction or missiles.
The sanctions took effect on July 28 and will be in place at least until July 28, 2008.
Last year Russia signed a contract to sell Tehran TOR-M1 ground-to-air missile systems and to modernise Iran's Russian fighters, bombers and military helicopters.
Russian media said the sanctions were triggered by Rosoboronexport's announcement last month of $3 billion in arms deals with Venezuela, tied up in a visit to Russia last week by President Hugo Chavez. Continued...
Turkey and France are engaged in a diplomatic tussle over Cyprus. France has been discussing a new "military cooperation" agreements with Cyprus. The terminology of one of the Turkish reports is shorthand for the problem: Turkey insists that France is talking to Greek Cypriots, not Cyprus.
France insists that this is not a "new" agreement. However, France is interested in assuring access to military facilities on Cyprus. Why? Think Lebanon.
France is also offering training for the Cypriot national guard. In early August, the Turks claimed that France wanted to build a military base in "southern Cyprus" (ie, the Greek-area of the island). Building a new base strikes many observers as unnecessary. Britain has bases in Cyprus and there is a large airbase at Paphos.
#1
Britain has 2 large military bases on Cyprus, which are UK sovereign territory, i.e. they are legally part of the UK. Cyprus doesn't have any say over those bases. So France talking to Cyprus rather than Britain is curious to say the least.
#2
You Turkish towels best recall that Al-Shiraq has said he would not hesitate to use full nuclear capacity if necessary. If you antagonize him it may be necessary.
Click on link and look carefully at the photos. Especially the last one. Hat tip: Roger Simon
July 30 photo, shot by the Associated Press's Lefteris Pitarakis, showing covered "bodies" after Qana strike.
Worst case of rigor I've ever seen.
[Mods - any way to make pics appear here?]
(Note: August 8, 2006, Best of the Web - no permalink.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
08/08/2006 17:21 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
I really don't care how many body photos there are or whether the subjects are alive or dead. This is war and Israel is going to have to kill people, including some civilians in collateral damage. All these jihadis need to be beamed a steady stream of photos of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki to remind them that their stupid aggressive actions are not self-serving and that, so far, Israel is handling them with kid gloves. I just hope that, when the right moment comes, Israel will take off the kid gloves and deal with Iran. August 22nd would be good.
#2
Darrel, pics of Dresden et. al. won't mean anything. They know we (civilization) won't bother to defend ourselves if it means killing "too many" "innocent" people. So they crank up the propaganda, alongside a willing press, counting on their allies and fellow enemies of civilization to paralyze us.
Posted by: Robert Crawford ||
08/08/2006 19:19 Comments ||
Top||
#3
From what I have seen about this photo, it is real. The guy was developing a case of rigor mortis. What I found was several photos from several angles at different times (if you go looking for it on the internet) and they all show the same position. This same picture showed up here within the last few days and has already been hashed out!
#4
Gorb - assuming the guy really is dead, he died in an odd position and stayed in that position until rigor set in, which takes quite a while.
Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) we need to question every photo that comes out of the Mid-East. There are too many photos of dead children supposedly crushed in a collapsed building with no blood, abrasions, or even dust on them. Obviously blown-up buildings (can't tell if the bomb came from the IDF, was a "work accident," or was planted by the Hizzies) with one clean, new-looking stuffed animal right in the middle.
Until the MSM clean up their act, if they can - and start questioning the "media opportunities" set up by TERRORISTS who would gladly cut off some media heads if they were deemed no longer useful - I can't and won't trust them. And they brought that lack of trust on themselves.
Schade.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
08/08/2006 20:09 Comments ||
Top||
#5
The guy was really dead. He seems to have been dead much longer than the 6Am or 1AM building collapse. An the uncovered bodies did not have visible crush injuries. Now stories are coming out the bodies were moved there for the press to photograph.
Posted by: ed ||
08/08/2006 20:22 Comments ||
Top||
#6
He has his left knee straight up, and one of his arms ended up being pulled straight up, too. There are "before" pics of this guy that show him with his arm down, I think, which would lead me to believe he was killed recently. I don't know if rigor mortis can make a body change its position like that, but I think it can.
Yes, we do have to question every photo. Until the MSM start trumpeting that fact, many are guaranteed to fall victim to the terrorist propaganda machine, both here and abroad. But it is against their interests to do that, and you know what that means to a corrupt institution . . . .
(KUNA) -- Seven British anti-war protesters were arrested Monday after campaigners boarded a plane at a Scottish airport to search for US weapons being transported to Israel, police said. Two men and a woman were in custody after getting on what is understood to be a military plane at Prestwick Airport, in Scotland, in the early hours of this morning. Police confirmed a further four people, two men and two women, were also arrested at the airport.
Anti-nuclear campaign group "Trident Ploughshares" said its activists had boarded a US plane while carrying out an investigation into the British Governments involvement in the transport of arms to Israel. The arrested protesters were expected to appear in court tomorrow.
Four people were arrested at the airport yesterday after breaking through security fencing and running onto the main runway, the police added. It follows protests last weekend when two flights carrying hazardous material were diverted to the Royal Air Force base of Mildenhall, in Suffolk, southern England. The UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), the body responsible for policing the transit of the flights through civilian airports, said yesterday that it had given permission for the two US flights to stop at Prestwick last weekend, but no others. "We have not issued permission for the carriage of any dangerous cargo to Israel," a spokesman for the CAA said.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[1 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
nice security - why weren't they shot?
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/08/2006 10:18 Comments ||
Top||
#2
...Some years ago some protesters got onto an RAF base where an SR-71 was doing a RON and managed to spray graffitti on it. Airport security seems to be a real problem over there.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski ||
08/08/2006 12:04 Comments ||
Top||
#3
One day a crew is going to close the cargo ramp and some haggis-for-brains will end up being the designated love goat for some Pashtun tribe.
Posted by: ed ||
08/08/2006 13:03 Comments ||
Top||
#4
"understood to be a military plane " as in it wasn't, it was a commercial freight job, though frank is right these naive fuckers should of been shot where the fuck was security
Excellent roundup of the story by blogger Brendan Loy ("Irish Trojan") at the link. Sen. Lieberman's website and e-mail servers have been DoS'd for the last 18 hours--just in time for election day!--and the Kos Kiddies are spreading a bogus story that it's because Lieberman didn't pay his bandwith bill. Lamont's campaign denies doing it themselves, and I tend to believe them--but I wouldn't put it past some of the BDS sufferers who've lined up behind Lamont.
Anyway, go hit the link.
Posted by: Mike ||
08/08/2006 15:46 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
I may be crazy but I hope that Lamont, McKinney, and every other LLL Mo0b@+ running under the Democratic Party banner. It will only hasten the partys demise and keep them from power.
Posted by: Mike ||
08/08/2006 19:23 Comments ||
Top||
#4
A country needs two parties.
Three is too many, one not enough.
What we need to do is chase out all these stupids who think Che Guevara was some kind of great guy: basically bar the DU from the DNC.
Let 'em vote for LArouche or something.
Posted by: J. D. Lux ||
08/08/2006 21:30 Comments ||
Top||
#5
#4: "basically bar the DU from the DNC"
That won't work - the DNC has to want the DU to be gone. And they don't.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
08/08/2006 21:40 Comments ||
Top||
#6
I am a Dem.
Those DU babies threw me out after one post.
It is very uncomfortable to be stuck in the middle with vrtually no voice.
Rantburgers are MUCH (infinitely) mre tolerant than the 'tolerant;'
liberals.
I want them gone. They need to straighten up. This is not a game anymore . MArbles are at stake.
Posted by: J. D. Lux ||
08/08/2006 21:54 Comments ||
Top||
#7
I was a Dem for 31 years. No more. I can't even imagine what kind of mental space I'd have to be in, to even consider voting for one of the current crop of idiots.
Or ever again, for that matter.
Posted by: Dave D. ||
08/08/2006 22:07 Comments ||
Top||
#8
I am waiting for one person (either party) to lay out what Rantburgers all know (deplatitudinization) and describe a tough policy.
No0body does it. Even the president dances around the subject.
Beyond that I still cling to certain values but not to others.
Pro choice
Pro -universal healthcare
pro Social security
Pro-military
Anti flag burning and flag burning amendment
Anti gay marriage and anti anti-gay marriage amendment
Anti illegal immigration
Pro-mass deportation
Pro WOT
Pro nuking Iran
Generally still LOVE my country just like mom and dad taught me.
And STILL learning who my real friends are. Just like Joe L.
Posted by: J. D. Lux ||
08/08/2006 22:34 Comments ||
Top||
#9
We are your friends, J. D. Lux. Regardless where we stand on the lesser issues, we here all agree on the critical one: winning the War on Terror completely -- now -- so that our children won't have to re-fight it, either there or, God forbid, here. And I think that's how we'll all vote, regardless of party, until that happens.
#10
Thank you TW.
The level of decency here is abnormally high.
At dinner we spoke of this leiberman thing and thhe subject of another thread, the latent anti-semitism (not so latent) of the left wing.
I am not religious but I am trying to explain to my daughter that even though we are not religious and her mother is a catholic and I , a JEw she bears my name and must understand that the Jews are HER people, and that she is going to hear diusturbing stuff as I have.
Then she tells me a story.
At summmer camp, there were a couple of JEwish girls annd one was saying that she lives where there is no Temple so she had no Bat Mitzvah.
They gave her an impromptu ceremony, and some of the less well-educated girls werte teasing and making fun.
She says she tollf them off and I beleive it. Karatte lessons are a good thing. Gives you some spine.
I may not have any but at least I know how to grow it.
The thought that I could die while this stuff goes on and on is very hard.
Posted by: J. D. Lux ||
08/08/2006 22:56 Comments ||
Top||
#11
Good riddance to bad garbage. Leiberman changes his views to suit his moment. So another dhimmicrat slimes in place.
Posted by: J. D. Lux ||
08/08/2006 23:05 Comments ||
Top||
#13
Yes, Fred, et al attract an amazingly high caliber here. This place has kept me sane across several different dimensions since I found it -- only one of which involves knowing whether or not to worry when Mr. Wife gets on an airplane to fly across one of the oceans.
Charming story about your daughter -- clearly she understands the purpose of a bar mitzvah is to become a formal part of the Jewish community, and she made it happen. And kudos on her standing up to the idiots -- not many have grown character so young.
No guarantee she'll encounter antisemitism though. Truth to tell, I haven't really, despite living in Germany and then Belgium for half of the 1990s, amongst the corporate expats.
Senior representatives of the Taliban attended the grand tribal jirga's meeting with NWFP Governor Ali Muhammad Jan Orakzai on Monday, and were told that foreign militants should leave Pakistan. Maulvi Mir Qasim and Maulvi Muhammad Aalam, considered close to the Taliban in North Waziristan, were among 45 other jirga members who met Orakzai, official and tribal sources told Daily Times.
"The foreign militants must leave our soil," Orakzai told the Taliban representatives and jirga members. "Those who prefer to stay in Pakistan due to some genuine reason can be allowed after the tribesmen guarantee that these foreigners will obey the laws of the land," he said.
A jirga member said that Orakzai was told to stop the "army's direct interference in official administration business". The jirga assured the governor that the Taliban would abide by the law if the security forces withdraw from North Waziristan, he said. He said that Orakzai had asked the jirga members to make the Taliban meet the government's demands as "generously" as the government had accepted their demands — the release of prisoners, removal of check posts and restoration of privileges for elders. Official sources said the meeting had a difference of opinion on cross border infiltration. The Taliban commanders are asking for safe passage, which the government refuses to accept, said the sources.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[7 views]
Top|| File under:
BAGHDAD - The top US general in Iraq said on Monday that US and Iraqi forces would drive death squads and militants out of Baghdad, in another attempt to restore security to the capital by the end of September. There is a comprehensive plan ... to change the situation significantly prior to Ramadan, General George Casey, the top US commander in Iraq, told a news conference following a meeting with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.
Over 3,700 US troops from the 172nd Stryker Brigade began arriving in Baghdad on Sunday to help stem rising sectarian violence, which has threatened to push Iraq to civil war. The beefed up forces are an admission that Operation Forward together, a security crackdown in the capital driven by what the Iraqi government has said is about 50,000 Iraqi forces, had failed to ease violence.
What you will see are Iraqi security forces, supported by the coalition, clearing out areas where there are terrorists and death squads, and then establishing the security presence to protect the people, Casey said. Its clear to everyone that the people in Iraq are tired of terrorism and want peace and security. That peace and security will come when all Iraqis reject violence and accept peace.
The United States boosted its soldiers in the capital, in a blow to Washingtons hopes that it can start bringing its troops home, after Iraqi forces failed to curb increasingly savage sectarian attacks or confront armed militias blamed for fanning tension.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has sworn to disarm these groups, but must proceed with care because some are connected to members of his newly formed government of national unity.
And until that's fixed the violence won't go away.
All the operations are designed to protect the population, and if the people of Baghdad cooperate with their security forces, this can happen very quickly, Casey said.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[1 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Maliki might be playing to the taters, but a serious enema is in order and will be administered.
The 172nd is in surgical mode.
Posted by: Captain America ||
08/08/2006 0:41 Comments ||
Top||
#2
Seems like the press is still in the "impending civil war" mode.
Was it 12 or 18 months ago the bad guys torched a gasoline truck and killed dozens? (Over a hundred?) Remember when bombers killed dozens in a single blast? Kinda quiet, now, is it not?
Posted by: Bobby ||
08/08/2006 6:04 Comments ||
Top||
#3
Does this mean they are going to roast Tater? He (and Iran) are behind a lot of this. Arrange for him to have an 'accident'.
#5
It is an interesting tactic the Islamists are using in Iraq. They kill as many Muslims as they can in order to wear down the will of the coalition to continue the efforts to bring freedom and democracy to Iraq. They say "leave - or we'll brutally kill our own innocent people." We don't leave, so the Islamists intentionally blow up innocent Iraqis day after day. The international media and the Arab world then attribute the deaths to the infidel US and coalition occupation, but strangely there are few photographs of the carnage wrought by Islamist bombs.
Then switch screens to Lebanon. There the Islamists launch rockets under cover of women and children in an attempt to kill Israeli civilians. As they launch the rockets, they anticipate there will be defensive retaliation at the site by Israel. Within minutes, Israel indeed retaliates with a pinpoint bomb at the site of the rocket launch, but the terrorists have gone leaving behind the civilian shields who have become innocent casualties. Then amid reams of photos of mangled bodies and wailing friends, relatives and parents, the international media and the Arab world again attribute the deaths to the infidels Israelis.
BAGHDAD, Iraq - About 10,000 workers in Saddam Husseins former regime have been re-employed as part of national reconciliation, reversing their purge after the March 2003 US-led invasion, an official said.
More than 8,000 of the reinstated employees worked for the key interior and defense ministries, Rashid Najeb Saleh, the chief of the Agency for Dissolved Entities, told a news conference on Sunday. All Iraqis are under the umbrella of Iraq and now we are seeking the national reconciliation through this directorate, he said.
Any chance the 10,000 signed an apology or an acknowledgement of wrong?
The agency was set up by the government in 2005 to help tens of thousands of workers made jobless in the purge after the 2003 invasion toppled Saddam.
The program involved purging the government of senior officials who were members from Saddams Baath Party. But in the absence of proper records it is likely that tens of thousands of lower level officials were also sacked.
Most government officials in Saddams time were Sunnis, who had traditionally suppressed the majority Shiites. The de-Baathification purge fueled dissatisfaction among the Sunnis against the US-backed Shiite-dominated government, and contributed to the sectarian strife sweeping the country. The strife has taken the form of tit-for-tat killings by Shiite and Sunni extremist groups.
Saleh said the decision to reinstate former employees is very important to resuscitate a wide segment of our Iraqi society. He said nearly 700,000 Iraqi citizens including up to 400,000 members of Saddams armed forces have been deprived of their rights.
During Saddams time about 2.5 million people were members of the Baath Party. Many would have joined it to secure well-paid government jobs and perks rather than to show support for Saddam or Baathism.
I seem to recall any number of ex-Nazis saying the same thing in 1947.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[1 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
I don't know if it's just my armchair analyst spideysense kicking in, but that dude seems to be a tad bit better trained than the cannon fodder that the Paleos put out against the IDF.
Not to mention, some decent gear.
AR/M16/M4 with optic, foregrip and collapsible stock.
#2
Lessee here:
AR/M-16: check
Human Shields: check
Personal Photographer, courtesy of AP: check
Yep, definitely nice kit.
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
08/08/2006 15:39 Comments ||
Top||
#3
Courtesy of US Government in the 1990's. One 25mm smart shell will end this crap. Wonder how the program is going.
Posted by: ed ||
08/08/2006 19:05 Comments ||
Top||
#4
A Palestinian militant fires toward Israeli troops during an arrest raid in the West Bank village of Qabatiyeh near Jenin, Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006. Four Palestinians were wounded when the army arrested an Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades militant,
Odd.... no mention from the AP of the human shields. But they did mention that 4 other human shields 'civilians' were wounded... implying that the blame is on Israel for arresting the 'militants'.
Despite complications, at least 15 countries have expressed a willingness to contribute troops to an international stabilization force in southern Lebanon if one is formed after a cease-fire and under a clear UN mandate. At least nine other nations say they're ready to provide support; six others remain undecided about their roles. The breakdown, with details where available:
Deploy troops:
AUSTRALIA - "very limited" contingent
BRAZIL - no specifics
CHILE - no specifics
FRANCE - no more than 5,000 troops
GHANA - no specifics
INDONESIA - 1 battalion (about 800 troops)
ITALY - no specifics
LITHUANIA - no specifics
MALAYSIA - 1,000 troops
NIGERIA - no specifics
NORWAY - 1 squadron of 4 missile torpedo boats, nearly 100 marines
PORTUGAL - no specifics
ROMANIA - no specifics
SPAIN - no specifics
TURKEY - "significant" contribution likely; no specifics
Provide support:
BRITAIN - possible technical assistance
CYPRUS _ transport humanitarian aid; possible staging point for forces
CZECH REPUBLIC - humanitarian aid, firefighting equipment
DENMARK - navy ship possible
GREECE - help transport aid
JAPAN - humanitarian aid
POLAND - keep 200 U.N. peacekeepers already in Lebanon
SLOVAKIA - doctors, humanitarian aid
UNITED STATES - train and equip Lebanese army
Undecided:
FINLAND
GERMANY
PAKISTAN
RUSSIA
SLOVENIA
SWEDEN
If it ever happens and I have my doubts, it looks like France, Turkey + Indonesia/Malaysia, with a few token forces from elsewhere. And if they do try and disarm Hizbollocks, they will take a lot of causalties and I predict will be withdrawn by the end of the year. Another bloody clusterf**k brought to you by the UN.
Redacted by moderator. Comments may be redacted for trolling, violation of standards of good manners, or plain stupidity. Please correct the condition that applies and try again. Contents may be viewed in the sinktrap. Further violations may result in
banning.
#7
"Stabilization force"? Stabilization isn't the question-UNIFIL was all about stability: the regional "stability" of hating Jews, the "stability" of not confronting Islamofascism in the form of Hezbollah. The $1m question-what will any one of these troops DO to those who violate the ceasefire?
Australia looks like a good bet, but their presence is listed as "limited".
Posted by: Jules in the Hinterlands ||
08/08/2006 9:23 Comments ||
Top||
#8
Olmert demanded 15,000 combat troops to enforce Hizb'allah disarmament, and Israel holds the high ground in this negotiation, so long as they don't give in to the world. At this rate, it'll be years before they stop plowing Lebanon with missiles.
#9
The last UN peacekeeping force did absolutely nothing. In fact, they watched Hizb build bunkers and bring in missiles. So why do this again? The UN has the imagination and the will of a gunnysack of hammers.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
08/08/2006 10:44 Comments ||
Top||
#10
They would there to protect the Hezbos from the Israelis. No?
#12
I can't think of anything worse than Hezb'Allah terrorist weapons pointed at the backs of German troops with their weapons pointed, pursuant to UNIFIL orders, at Jewish troops. No International force should go in until all Hezbs are dead at which point an international force will be unnecessary.
D-Day --- Stability force deploys
D+30 ---- Hizb'allan launches multiple suicide attacks on German, Norweigian, Spanish and Australian observation posts.
D+31 ---- 1st world nations begin withdrawal
D+32 ---- Hizb'allan approaches 3rd world and Islamic contingents and promises them safety in return for looking the other way and the occasional favor. Amazingly, all agree.
D+33 ---- Hizb'allan resumes infiltrating arms and militias into south Lebanon.
D+180 --- Missile attacks on Israel resume.
#14
11A5S
You seem unusally optimistic about the time lapse between "Hizb'alla resumes infiltrating arms and militias into south Lebanon" and "Missile attacks on Israel resume".
I'm assuming the time lapse would be 1 week.
Al
Posted by: Frozen Al ||
08/08/2006 14:32 Comments ||
Top||
#15
Australia's busy in its backyard. It seems to me they have to expect action in Indonesia.
Posted by: Eric Jablow ||
08/08/2006 16:20 Comments ||
Top||
#16
This just in form Israel; Keep mulling, we're reloading.
#18
I do believe the US should contribute, and heavily - as in, tell the Israelis to pull back beyond the blue line, then plaster everything south of the Litani with load after load of B-52s with a maximum load of iron bombs. THEN the UN can deploy the rest of its forces to grade, plow, and seed (with anti-personnel mines) the bare landscape of everything south of the Litani, build a few guard-posts along the river, and "maintain order and security". It'll be a bit rough on the locals, but all that have stayed were told to get out long before this. Tough.
Posted by: Old Patriot ||
08/08/2006 17:07 Comments ||
Top||
#20
The West and allies better be careful on this one. The UN desn't really have the cajones to do anything that is useful. Any peacekeeping force has to be ready to disarm and/or kill the Hezzies. The U.S. seems to be assuming that Lebanon and the Hezzies are two separate entities. From what's coming out of Lebanon, this doesn't seem to be true--they seem to be wedded at the hip.
Contributing to the problem are the pencil-necked doofus in Syrian and the sawed off Hitlerian dictator from Iran. Why not go after the real problem?
#21
Frozen Al: I just figured that it'd take em 5-6 months to bring in another 5-10K rockets by mule cart, ambulance, taxi, etc. If there is a next time, I suspect that Hizb will try to coordinate it's barrages much more carefully and get more effect on target (which is a nice way of saying kill more joooos).
I forgot two milestones:
D+34 ---- UN GENSEK proclaims that the peacekeeping mission is "saved" because of 3rd world and Islamic countries remaining.
D+35 ---- Robert Fisk writes nasty column praising Maylaysia and Ghana for staying while the evil Westerners bugged out.
#22
The western troops will become human shields and the muslim troops will be hezb'allah allies. I am really ashamed for any US gov official who would even consider this. Israel should annex the land to the Litani river. The only troops should be Lebanese north of the Litani. If additional attacks are launched, then there is no doubt which government is responsible and should suffer the consequences. If you allow war to be launched from your territory and lose, you deserve to lose said territory. Actions have consequnces. End of story.
Posted by: ed ||
08/08/2006 19:27 Comments ||
Top||
#23
French backing out (no surprise), probably want Hezbos to watch themselves.
Posted by: Captain America ||
08/08/2006 20:41 Comments ||
Top||
#24
For some things we can depend upon the French. This was the nicest gift they could give to Israel. You've got months to go Olmert. Use them wisely. Pretend it's only weeks.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert defined the war with Hizbullah as an existential threat during a live Internet broadcast to US Jewish organizations late Monday. According to Olmert, "For the first time since the 1960s, Israel has an enemy whose goal is to eliminate our existence."
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[5 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
"For the first time since the 1960s, Israel has an enemy whose goal is to eliminate our existence."
Ummmm, maybe I'm missing some nuance, but what about the PLO and Hamas?
#3
Sadly, there are those in the Jewish community here who need it bluntly said. But supposedly the community has not been so united on Israel's side since 1973 (the Yom Kippur War).
I have a feeling Bibi Netanyahu is going to win the next election. The progression needed to happen -- the Intifadas demonstrated conclusively the falsity of the pacifists' fond hope that it would all go away if only Israel would do as the world prescribed; Olmert's Kadimah showed there is no Third Way without Sharon's warlike hand at the helm; only Bibi's way remanins.
#5
IIUC, Olmert has said that he didnt mobilize earlier cause Halutz didnt ask for it.
Kinda what Rummy said about more troops for Iraq. Ya know, something about no plan surviving contact with the enemy, the inherent uncertainty of war, all that. Odd that the folks who excuse Rummys 3 years of mistakes, are pouncing on Olmerts handling of the war, when we have so little real info about who ordered what, or even whats really happened on the ground in Lebanon.
As for the int. politics, ANY Israeli govt is going to have to pursue politics and diplomacy. Even Bibi. Bibi signed the Wye Accords. Not because of the cloth he is cut from, but because thats the strategic reality Israel faces.
#7
In 1998, then Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu appointed Sharon as Foreign Minister.
Phony "right-wingers" Ariel Sharon and Binyamin Netanyahu have been busy for years surrendering Israel to the PLO Arab Muslim terrorists - In 1998, as then Prime Minister Netanyahu's foreign minister, Sharon assisted him and the Jew-hating Traitor-in-Chief Bill Clinton in crafting the agreement to surrender 13% of Judea and Samaria to the PLO Muslim Nazi terrorists.
Netanyahu and Sharon then went together to the infamous 1998 Wye Plantation summit, where they negotiated with the Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat. Under the supervision of the Jew-hater Bill Clinton, Netanyahu and Sharon agreed to surrender another 13% of Judea and Samaria to the PLO Nazi terrorists.
I hope they do a little better than Bibi. He speaks well.
Defense Minster Amir Peretz said Monday he has ordered the army to step up the offensive against Hizbullah rocket launching sites in Lebanon if the diplomatic process remains inconclusive. "We are at one of the most decisive stages of this war," Peretz told the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. Peretz said in the absence of a diplomatic agreement, he had instructed the army to "take control" of launching sites "wherever they are to minimize the fire of Katyusha rockets and take the Israeli people out of the shelters."
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
THE Hamas speaker of the Palestinian parliament, Aziz Dweik, who was arrested by Israel over the weekend, was in hospital today after complaining of chest pains, the Israeli army said. "He complained of dizziness and chest pains. A prison doctor examined him and decided to transfer him for further tests to Sharei Tzadek hospital in Jerusalem," an army spokesman said.
Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri said in Gaza Mr Dweik was taken to hospital "after being severely beaten".
"He underwent tests at the hospital and will remain under observation." Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri said in Gaza Mr Dweik was taken to hospital "after being severely beaten".
The RAB would never be so sloppy...
"We accuse the Zionist enemy. According to our information, he is in a serious state," Mr Masri said. Israeli troops seized Mr Dweik on Sunday from his home in Ramallah, branding him a terrorist.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[2 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
...he is in a serious state...
That's true, unlike a made-up "state" like Palestine, or a non-serious one like Lebanon.
Mushir al-Masri seems to be saying the only thing he can imagine because that's the only thing he can imagine. "What do you mean he just developed chest pains? He has obviously been severely beaten because that is what we would do!"
Aziz probably developed chest pains because he thinks the only logical thing to do with prisoners is to beat them for no good reason.
I went to Iraq in the 1970s to do a course in Islamic studies. While I was there, I saw that my own community did not have the same quality of life as other Muslim communities in the Middle East - our own land, our own country.
Indonesian police said on Monday that the government had banned Islamic militants from travelling to the Middle East or elsewhere to fight Israel. The comments by a police spokesman came after the self-styled head of the Jakarta-based ASEAN Muslim Youth Movement said more than 200 militants had been sent on missions to attack Israel's interests and countries that support the Jewish state.
Suaib Didu told Reuters last week fighters had been trained to carry out suicide bombings to revenge Israel's military strikes on the Palestinian territories and Lebanon. "We will prevent them from leaving. The government bans such travel," national police spokesman Anton Bachrul Alam said, adding there was no evidence anyone had left the country for the purpose.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[2 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
If they really wanted to be helpful, they'd let them go, then give the routing to Israel.
#2
These guys are just illegal immigrants looking for a back door. Lebanon's nominal per capita GDP is four times Indonesia's. Many of these guys will want to do as little fighting as possible, especially shoulder to shoulder with Shiite heretics, and then stick around after the hostilities are over.
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/08/2006 10:32 Comments ||
Top||
#5
Jackal: How would you like to live in a country that views Lebanon as having its streets paved with gold?
They're in good company. Burma, Vietnam, China, Philippines, Cambodia and Laos are some of the other East Asian countries where much of the population would love to make Lebanese salaries.
(KUNA) -- Sri Lanka Monday asked Tamil rebels to return to the peace talks and committed itself to find a negotiated settlement to all contentious issues. "We still believe that we must get back to the table. We feel Tamil rebels are also feeling the same because of international pressure," Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera told reporters after a meeting with senior Communist Party of India (CPI) leaders A B Bardhan and D Raja in Delhi Monday.
Samaraweera said he had good discussions with CPI leaders on the developing situation in Sri Lanka. "We agreed that the only way out was a negotiated settlement which would deal with the general aspirations of the people," he said. Sri Lanka has reiterated its commitment to the ceasefire agreement despite numerous attacks by the Tamil rebels, he added.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[1 views]
Top|| File under:
The most interesting part:
Now we have the Haij photos, some of which indicate staged casualties. Examination of photos from Qana, where an Israeli smart bomb was alleged to have killed over fifty women and children, indicates that the dead bodies had been dead for some time already, and were brought to Quana so they could be brought out of a bombed building.
Many of us were thinking just this from the advanced state of rigor mortis of the bodies. Did experts examine the photos and come to this conclusion? Sadly, SP doesn't give references.
Posted by: ed ||
08/08/2006 11:56 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[12 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Joe, put the keyboard down, step away from the monitor.
Russia has not supplied modern anti-tank armaments to the Middle East, so Hezbollah militants cannot possibly be in possession of them, Deputy President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems Col. Gen. Leonid Ivashov told Interfax-AVN. Had Hezbollah obtained modern close-combat weaponry, including grenade launchers, I think that Israeli army casualties would be incomparable to the current figures, he said.
You'd like to think that, except we've all seen how 'modern' Russian weapons work in the Middle East.
Ivashov previously headed the Russian Defense Ministrys Main Department of International Military Cooperation.
Ivashovs statement came as a response to a Monday article in the Israeli Haaretz daily claiming Hezbollah had obtained Russian RPG-29s from Syria. Hezbollah has rather primitive missile launchers for use in guerrilla warfare, items which Russia has never produced. Such weapons may be manufactured in the Middle East, Ivashov said.
Meanwhile, head of the Military Forecasting Center Anatoly Tsyganok ruled out the possibility of deliveries of modern anti-tank weapons to Hezbollah from Russia or Syria. Any accusations alleging Russian or Syrian deliveries of anti-tank weapons to any forces in Lebanon are unfounded. The Israeli side has not presented any evidence of this, and it is unlikely that it will, he told Interfax-AVN on Monday.
Except that they have. Right there in the MosNews. Oooops.
RPG-29 weapons have been supplied to India, China and some other countries. Most probably, such weapons, should Hezbollah militants really have any, might have been brought to Lebanon through third countries, Tsyganok said.
The majority of the Israeli Defense Forces ground-troop casualties, both infantry and armored, were the result of Russian-made anti-tank units of Hezbollah, according to intelligence sources quoted by Haaretz daily. The same sources note that these units have not retreated from southern Lebanon following the deployment of large Israeli ground forces in the area.
The Hezbollah anti-tank teams use a new and particularly potent version of the Russian-made RPG, the RPG-29 that was sold by Moscow to the Syrians and then transferred to the Shiite organization. The RPG-29s penetrating power comes from its tandem warhead, and on a number of occasions has managed to get through the massive armor of the Merkava tanks.
At first Israeli inquiries that Russia was transferring modern anti-tank weapons to Syria and on to Hezbollah were received with anger. The Russians demanded proof that this had been done.
Contrary to common practice, Israel transferred to Russia the tail-end of a rocket for analysis. The Russian response was that in the absence of a serial number it was difficult to identify it as part of a load delivered to Syria.
Oh. No serial number. Tail section wasn't good enough for you.
Israel believes Hezbollah also has an advanced anti-aircraft missile, the SA-18, from Iran, the paper adds. It is particularly lethal against helicopters, and even though none of the missiles have been fired against Israeli Air Force aircraft, the flights over Lebanon are taking the necessary precautions.
And let's keep an eye on the Russians at the UNSC -- wonder if they'll try to spoil the 'ceasefire' resolution at Arab request?
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[7 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Request: RBee translator re: Hizbo member of kidnap team.
#2
We know nothing ! We did nothing wrong ! Don't look at us, we're completely innocent ! You told us to be good capitalists, what do you expect ! No more questions !
#5
Art Bell's guest HOWARD BLOOM denoted his opinion that be it from Iran proper, or via Hezzies-Hizzies, the final agenda of both Iran + Islam-based Radical Terror is the imposition of Radical/Revolutionary Islamist fundamentalism upon the ENTIRE WORLD, and that in antiquity, Mohammed and adherents only attacked the Jews both to PC acquire by force any Jewish wealth, etal. + espec to use same as prelude for larger follow-on military campaigns against his enemies. Bloom also indic that, despite allegations of the Western role in African slavery, Islam has by far uprooted or destroyed more African, etc. lives than anything the West ever did. Bloom > the "Islamic Bomb" was tested over ten yeras ago in 1998 by the Pakis in collusion wid Iran and other Muslim govts, + Israeli's response in Lebanon is in his opin only the openning shot of WW3. Bloom indic the major Islamist tactics agz the West is guile, i.e. deception and diversion etal., and espec "patience". CONCLUDES THAT IRAN HAS "SUNBURN" DUAL-USE CM'S + TECH, WILL LIKELY ATTEMPT TO DEV LONGER-RANGE MISSLES BASED ON SUNBURN AND OTHER TYPES, AND THAT IRAN AND ALIGNED RADICS ARE LIKELY NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL THE WHOLE WORLD IS UNDER RADICAL ISLAM/ISLAMIST OWG. ALSO INDIC THAT ANY "ISLAMIST BOMB" ALSO POINTS AT MOSCOW AND BEIJING DESPITE ANY MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADE BETWEEN THEM, AND ARGUES THAT A LARGE ALBEIT UNKNOWN PERCENTAGE OF US- AND INTERNAT MUSLIM COMMUNITIES ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE FUNDAMENTALIST AGENDAS.
#7
Thank you Col. Gen. Leonid Ivashov for that brilliant clarification. We here at that Rant were saddened to learn of your pending retirement and relocation to Groznyy. You'll be missed.
IRAN yesterday rejected a United Nations demand that it halt uranium enrichment work, vowing instead to expand its controversial nuclear programme and threatening to block oil exports to the West if sanctions are imposed.
In a blunt response to international concern about Irans nuclear ambitions, Ali Larijani, the chief negotiator on atomic issues, said that Tehran was ready for a showdown with world powers when the matter was taken up by the UN Security Council this month. We will expand nuclear technology at whatever stage it may be necessary and all of Irans nuclear technology including the [centrifuge] cascades will be expanded, he said in Tehran.
The announcement was regarded not simply as another rhetorical outburst from Tehran but rather the precursor of a formal reply to the West which will be delivered in full on August 22.
Mr Larijani said yesterday that Iran had a right under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) to build a civilian nuclear programme. He said Iran was planning to expand its operations at the heavily-guarded Natanz facility in central Iran, where the authorities hope to have 3,000 centrifuges which enrich uranium by spinning it at supersonic speeds operating by the end of this year. We will expand nuclear activities where required. It includes all nuclear technology including the string of centrifuges, he said. We wont accept suspension.
Mr Larijani also served warning that Iran would retaliate if the world imposed sanctions. We will react in a way that would be painful for them. They should not think that they can hurt us and we would stand still without a reaction.
We do not want to use the oil weapon. Do not force us to do something that will make people shiver in the cold. We do not want that, he said.
Experts are divided over whether Iran would carry out its threat to withhold oil sales as a political weapon. The dispute with Iran is already responsible for pushing crude oil prices up to record levels. As Iran is the fourth largest Opec exporter, a freeze on oil sales could push up prices even further and could trigger an energy crisis.
Iran would, however, also suffer greatly. Oil accounts for 80 per cent of the countrys export earnings and the local economy would collapse if crude exports were halted indefinitely.
In the past Iran has cleverly managed to divide the permanent members of the UN Security Council, using China and Russia, which has large commercial interests in Iran and is building the main nuclear power station at Bushher, to avoid sanctions. The international mood has hardened, however, not least because of Irans support for Hezbollah in its war with Israel.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
DUBAI Lebanon's war ravaged economy is on the brink of collapse, said Sami Haddad, Lebanon's economy minister in an interview on the BBC yesterday.
That usually happens when you're on the losing side of a series of wars.
As the heavy bombardment of the country in its fourth week, the direct damage to the country's infrastructure is estimated at $3.5 billion upwards while the reconstruction costs, according to analysts are likely to exceed $5 billion.
The war has hit Lebanon's key economic sectors such as tourism and agricultural exports hard. The conflict has almost wiped out Lebanon's tourism industry. Tourism accounts for about 15 per cent of the Lebanese economy, and had risen 50 per cent in the first half of 2006.
"Off to Kabul, Ducks, Beirut is being plastered!"
The government had hoped the country would draw in a record 1.6 million visitors this year, bringing in about $2.5 billion in foreign exchange to the economy. We have completely missed this year's tourist season. Confidence is a huge factor in the Lebanese economy. We depend a lot on tourism, and now that's been knocked, it could take years to come back, the minister said.
You can tell he's a minister 'cause he's so smart about this stuff.
Speaking about the collateral damage, Haddad said apart from the damage to the physical structures, the conflict has severely damaged the country's environment and in financial terms could amount to several billions of dollars.
Haddad welcomed international contributions, particularly those from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait that helped the economy to remain stable during the first few weeks of the war. While Saudi Arabia deposited $1 billion in soft loan it provided $500 million towards the Widows Ammunition Fund reconstruction of the country. Kuwait along with other Gulf states together have contributed another $500 million. Financial aid in all forms are welcome. We need more to rebuild the economy, Haddad said.
Lebanon, already saddled with a public debt of about $40 billion, or 180 per cent of GDP, will have to rely solely on foreign donations to rebuild.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Tired of getting bombed? Just return the 2 Israeli soldiers, and retire Hezbollah. It really is just that simple.
#3
What a shame. And, no ones going to be coming there for years to come, since rubble inspection usually does not make it to No. 1 on most folks to do list.
Warning: the photo in the article (at the link, not the one to the right) may show Adnan Hajj's favorite 'rescue worker' with a different helmet. Not sure, take a look.
The Lebanese army called up 5,000 reservists last night to prepare for deployment along the border to try to speed up the departure of Israeli forces, the main hurdle to the United Nations security council adopting a ceasefire resolution. The Lebanese army will only be deployed when Israel and Hizbullah agree to end hostilities.
The army, regarded as neutral by Israel, has not been involved in the present conflict. Its deployment would mark a significant change in the balance of power within the country: for more than 20 years southern Lebanon has been a virtual no-go area for the Lebanese army.
Not neutral? This is the army that the Hezbies have thoroughly infiltrated. They have their own people in key positions and have intimidated others. A good chunk of the army is Shi'a and won't fight the Hezbies.
Fouad Siniora, the Syrian lackey Lebanese prime minister, told a meeting of his cabinet that he wanted the troops deployed much quicker than had been generally expected. Under Mr Siniora's proposal, up to 15,000 Lebanese troops would fan out in the south to guarantee an end to fighting, and the present UN peacekeeping force would be doubled to 4,000 troops to help until the international force arrives, an aide to the prime minister said.
Which means twice as many useless UNIFIL soldiers getting in the way.
The US president, George Bush, speaking at his ranch at Crawford, Texas, said that whatever happened at the UN, the US would not permit a vacuum in southern Lebanon into which Hizbullah, backed by Iran and Syria, could move fresh weapons.
He said the two-stage peace plan under discussion envisaged the Lebanese army, backed by an international force, probably led by France, moving into the Israeli border area and the international force also patrolling the Syria border to stop illegal arms shipments. "As these Lebanese and international forces deploy, the Israeli Defence Forces will withdraw and both Israel and Lebanon will respect the Blue Line that divides them," Mr Bush said.
An international force of about 15,000-20,000 is proposed to back up the Lebanese army.
I'm still waiting to hear who's going to provide this army. Maybe the Samoans have a few soldiers to spare.
A Lebanese army statement last night called on retired officers and regular soldiers who completed service five years ago to report to various military sections across the country from August 10 to 16.
Posted by: Steve White ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[6 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
That wasn't "Green Helmut Guy." As for a revamped Lebanese army, as long as it is 40% Shiite it cannot be trusted.
#3
"A revamped Lebanese army" may be just another morphing of more of the known s**t dying to hit the fan judging from the type of 'leadership' by invertebrate sinioras.
Opposition from Lebanon caused the United States and France to delay vote on a UN resolution, diplomats said. The current draft of the Security Council resolution calls for "the immediate cessation by Hezbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations" %u2013 implicitly giving Israel the right to pursue "defensive" operations. Israel views the draft favourably, as it does not order Israel to withdraw its 10,000 soldiers from southern Lebanon.
Lebanon wants the draft UN resolution to include an explicit demand for a full Israeli pullout from southern Lebanon. France asked the US to delay a discussion of the draft resolution to make certain changes. France's UN Ambassador Jean-Marc de la Sabliere said changes would probably be made to the draft resolution.
The Security Council has scheduled a public debate on Tuesday on the conflict, to be attended by envoys from several countries. A Lebanese official said Arab League foreign ministers would send a delegation to the United Nations to try to push through the amendments Lebanon wants.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[11 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
This requires further discussion. All parties retire for reconsideration and plan to reconvene in 90 days.
Lebanon is ready to deploy 15 000 troops in the south up to the border with Israel when the Jewish state pulls out all soldiers from the area, information minister Ghazi Aridi said after a cabinet session on Monday. "The government asserts that it is ready to send 15 000 troops to the south, with the Israeli withdrawal beyond the Blue Line," or Lebanon's UN-drawn border with Israel, he said. Asked about the military presence of Hezbollah which has been controlling the border area, Aridi said: "Where the army will be, it will be on its own."
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[8 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Ready? Morphing Hezbos no doubt
Posted by: Captain America ||
08/08/2006 0:54 Comments ||
Top||
#2
Where the army will be, we will be elsewhere. Shooting over their heads if need be.
Lebanons Prime Minister Fouad Siniora won strong support from Arab states to plead his case at the United Nations for a full Israeli withdrawal even as Israeli warplanes intensified airstrikes and launched a new commando raid in south Lebanon on Monday, killing at least 23 people in one of the heaviest tolls in days. Siniora got strong backing from the foreign ministers, who warned the UN Security Council against adopting resolutions that dont serve Lebanons interests. They decided to send a high-level delegation to New York to press Lebanons case.
Three loud explosions rocked Beirut shortly after nightfall and within two hours of the Arab ministers leaving. Lebanese security officials said they were artillery fired from ships off the Mediterranean coast where they also are enforcing a sea blockade. A Lebanese army statement called up reserve soldiers in a move apparently linked to a possible deployment of about 15,000 troops on the border.
Prime Minister Fouad Siniora is pressing for an arrangement in a draft UN resolution that has Lebanese troops deploying quickly in the south with the backing of a beefed-up UN force, so that the Israeli military can withdraw as part of any ceasefire deal. So far, the draft prepared by the US and France only calls for a halt in fighting, leaving Israeli forces still in the south until a more powerful UN force can be deployed.
Posted by: Fred ||
08/08/2006 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[8 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Musta been those sad tears from puppet-boy
Posted by: Captain America ||
08/08/2006 0:56 Comments ||
Top||
#2
Keep crying. You do that so well. Have you been practicing, or is it second nature ?
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
ALMOST a quarter of British Muslims say the 7/7 bombings can be justified because of the Government's support for the war on terror, according to an opinion poll. And nearly half of those polled, or 45 per cent, believe the 9/11 attacks on New York were a conspiracy between the United States and Israel. 
(KUNA) -- Seven British anti-war protesters were arrested Monday after campaigners boarded a plane at a Scottish airport to search for US weapons being transported to Israel, police said. Two men and a woman were in custody after getting on what is understood to be a military plane at Prestwick Airport, in Scotland, in the early hours of this morning. Police confirmed a further four people, two men and two women, were also arrested at the airport.
Senior representatives of the Taliban attended the grand tribal jirga's meeting with NWFP Governor Ali Muhammad Jan Orakzai on Monday, and were told that foreign militants should leave Pakistan. Maulvi Mir Qasim and Maulvi Muhammad Aalam, considered close to the Taliban in North Waziristan, were among 45 other jirga members who met Orakzai, official and tribal sources told Daily Times.
(KUNA) -- Sri Lanka Monday asked Tamil rebels to return to the peace talks and committed itself to find a negotiated settlement to all contentious issues. "We still believe that we must get back to the table. We feel Tamil rebels are also feeling the same because of international pressure," Sri Lankan Foreign Minister Mangala Samaraweera told reporters after a meeting with senior Communist Party of India (CPI) leaders A B Bardhan and D Raja in Delhi Monday.
IRAN yesterday rejected a United Nations demand that it halt uranium enrichment work, vowing instead to expand its controversial nuclear programme and threatening to block oil exports to the West if sanctions are imposed. 
DUBAI Lebanon's war ravaged economy is on the brink of collapse, said Sami Haddad, Lebanon's economy minister in an interview on the BBC yesterday.
Opposition from Lebanon caused the United States and France to delay vote on a UN resolution, diplomats said. The current draft of the Security Council resolution calls for "the immediate cessation by Hezbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations" %u2013 implicitly giving Israel the right to pursue "defensive" operations. Israel views the draft favourably, as it does not order Israel to withdraw its 10,000 soldiers from southern Lebanon.
Lebanons Prime Minister 
