From the November 1 / November 8, 2004 issue:
This is the first presidential election since September 11, 2001, and it will define America's response: On the one hand, we can attempt to return to the 1990s; on the other hand, we can face our challenges, and carry out our duties.
"We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance."
--John Kerry, New York Times Magazine, October 10, 2004
"What American would not trade the economy we had in the 1990s, the fact that we were not at war and young Americans were not deployed?"
--John Kerry, on Larry King Live, July 8, 2004
"During the decade of the 1990s, our times often seemed peaceful on the surface.Yet beneath the surface were currents of danger. Terrorists were training and planning in distant camps. . . . America's response to terrorism was generally piecemeal and symbolic. The terrorists concluded this was a sign of weakness, and their plans became more ambitious, and their attacks more deadly. Most Americans still felt that terrorism was something distant, and something that would not strike on a large scale in America. That is the time my opponent wants to go back to. A time when danger was real and growing, but we didn't know it. . . . September 11, 2001 changed all that. We realized that the apparent security of the 1990s was an illusion. . . . Will we make decisions in the light of September 11, or continue to live in the mirage of safety that was actually a time of gathering threats?"
--George W. Bush, October 18, 2004
THIS IS THE FIRST presidential election since September 11, 2001. Its central issue is the meaning of September 11. The events of that day did not really "change everything," as Bush sometimes says in a defensible shorthand. But they did reveal, as columnist Paul Greenberg put it, that "everything we had thought/assumed/expected in the Golden '90s hadn't been so." The surface peace of the 1990s had been bought at a great price. On 9/11 a failure of American leadership was revealed, a failure to look ahead and act forcefully to forestall threats--to do what Bush has called "the hard work of fighting terror and spreading freedom."
This is what President Bush thinks. John Kerry really doesn't agree. That's why it is so fitting that Bill Clinton will reemerge to campaign for Kerry this week. The choice will then be clearly posed: On the one hand, we can attempt to return to the 1990s. This is not, of course, an unattractive prospect, but it is surely an unachievable one. To pretend we can go back to the 1990s raises false hopes that will prove dangerous to the country. On the other hand, we can face our challenges, and carry out our duties--as President Bush has tried, with considerable success, to lead us to do.
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William Kristol is a Jew.
Sock Puppet of Doom, is William Kristol another one of those self hating jews? If so, is that all we need to know about him?
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Mike S - In the same vein as your gratuitous "comment":
Hmmm. I see no mention of "self-hate" here. Why, SPo'D hasn't even commented on this thread! You must be psychic - or something.
As for Kristol being a Jew, how do you know Mikey? How do you really know with absolute certainty? How can you ambush SPo'D without certainty?
*slaps forehead*
Duh, of course! Sorry - it's obvious, now:
You checked Kristol's foreskin!
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Skip the ethnic comments and consider the substance. Bill Kristol is absolutely correct. This election is very much a decision on our post-9/11 approach to terrorism. Are we going to play 'cops-and-robbers' like the '90's or are we going to remain on offense. For me the choice is obvious: on defense you have to be 100% right all the time (an impossibility); whereas on offense, we chase them into caves.
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The vote so far:
Is William Kristol a self hating Jew?
.com = no
Frank G = yes
PBMcL = undecided
Capt America = maybe, but substantially correct
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
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Been doing troll dust, Mike?
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10/23/2004 13:41
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I thought Democrat Jews were the self-hating type, i.e. voting against their interests.
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Mikey - you dumbfuck. I was mocking you (as usual)
Posted by: Frank G ||
10/23/2004 14:22
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Sylwester - Quit worrying about who hates what. I am not Jewish, but to use this as an issue is as gratiuitous as the ambulance chasing appeasers using the Veep's daughter for poliical hay.
Kristol, though I sometimes disagree with him, is right on point here! Anyone who doesn't realize that is like the ostrich in the new Bush-Cheney Ad.
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I misspoke. The Ostrich was in a Kerry ad, but the idea of an ostrich with head in sand is a perfect metaphor for the vast majority of Kerry supporters...
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BTW - Kedwards staff unveiled their stupid ostrich ad, but after comparisons to the Wolves ad by W's staff, they haven't used the Ostrich anywhere. A cheap PR release is all...
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10/23/2004 16:22
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Voting update
Is William Kristol a self hating jew?
Tom = Needs more info to decide.
Whoo = yes, if William Kristol is a Democrat
Big Ed = incoherent (ballot discarded as invalid)
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester ||
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Mike, what the hell is wrong with you?
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If someone is a self hating jew, then that's all we need to know about him. That would apply to William Kristol too, wouldn't it?
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mike you need help - I'd suggest cuddly therapy in a EU country. They'd understand and affirm you
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No, Michael. You need to look at the words in the posted article. Read them. Then you evaluate the article on its merits. You were taught to do this in 3rd or 4th grade, if you went to a halfway decent public school. If this is beyond you, please go back to lurking until you have seen enough examples to discern the principles of the excercise, at which point you may try again.
How do you know that Mike is not in the 2nd grade? If he hasn't reached the 4th grade yet then you can't blame him. Maybe he got left behind on the underfunded "No Child Left Behind".
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:-) Ship - Kristol is indeed Jewish, as for the self-hate, I don't think so. Typically he and the other "evil Neocon Joooooish Cabalâ¢" are accused of using America's strengths for Israel's security, nevermind that our interests are intertwined... It's a red herring
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At least one person was killed when a strong earthquake with a magnitude of 6.8 and several big aftershocks rocked northern Japan The focus of the initial quake was in the Niigata prefecture, some 150 miles north of Tokyo. The jolts, including aftershocks of magnitude up to 6.3 on the Richter scale, were also felt strongly in the capital rocking buildings. At least one person died, a Japanese news agency reported. Other media reported that several people had been injured. A bullet train was derailed in Niigata and an expressway was partially collapsed, media reports said.
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Expatriates of all nationalities are entitled to apply for Saudi citizenship and their travels abroad with re-entry visas will not disqualify them, press reports said yesterday quoting senior officials.... Shubaily ibn Majdoue Al-Qarni, chairman of the security committee which supervised amendments to the law, said Saudi citizenship would be open for all nationals working in the Kingdom. "The law does not aim at a particular nationality. On the other hand, it covers all expatriates in the country," he told Al-Madinah. But Al-Watan Arabic daily reported that the naturalization law would not be applicable to Palestinians living in the Kingdom as the Arab League has instructed that Palestinians living in Arab countries should not be given citizenship to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland. The fact that Arab states have been directly responsible for helping create the current "Palestinian" crisis has escaped media attention for far too long.
Diplomatic sources have estimated the number of Palestinians in the Kingdom at about 500,000. There are large concentrations of Palestinians in the country's western, central, eastern and northern provinces.
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Throgh their deeds you shall know them. It is telling that the people who know the Palestinians best want no part of them. The only "right of return" that applies to Palestinians is "from dust to dust."
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Palestinians living in the Kingdom as the Arab League has instructed that Palestinians living in Arab countries should not be given citizenship to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland.
"Dissolution of their identity" my hairy western @ss! More like continued and intentional disenfranchising of the Palestinians as a means of further fomenting their violent opposition to Israel's existence. The vicious cynicism of Arab politics makes even the UN look like a bunch of boy scouts.
One can only wonder when the world's remaining population will finally catch on to how a majority of the Middle East wants nothing more than constant turmoil and strife as a way of disguising their own brutally craven hold upon political power.
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So if you are a Paleo, you are stuck being a Paleo in SA. What about the UN Declaration of Human Rights, etc etc? A Paleo is just human cannon fodder and that is it, at least from the viewpoint of SA.
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Awhhh!!! Nobody want the Paleo's. Cry me a Euphrates River.
I guess it took a whole generation for the Paleo's to realize that, they are NOTHING but a pawn of the Arab states.
They also will have to come to the realization that the only friends they ever had, is ironically, the Jooooos. The Joooos gave them a job, fed them, protected them, gave medical attention, etc...............................Put your money where your mouth is, stopping killing the Jooos, instead kill your real oppressors--your own cousins around you, stupid morons.
Political motivations turned criminal Thursday night or early Friday when vandals smashed a large glass door with a section of cinder block at the Republican Party headquarters in downtown Flagstaff.
A pile of shattered glass joined egg shells filling the entryway to the GOP offices, located on Humphreys Street across from Wheeler Park. Fliers with information criticizing President Bush were staked up outside the door.
It joined a spate of torn and damaged signs reported by both Republicans and Democrats throughout the Flagstaff area. On Sunday, the campaign for 1st Congressional District Democratic challenger Paul Babbitt reported a dozen signs torn and damaged at its volunteer office on Verde Street.
Local GOP coordinator John Echols said he received at 7 a.m. phone call from an employee at Enterprise Rent-a-Car next door reporting the vandalism. Echols arrived to find the smashed door, but little else in the way of damage. Still, police are considerting the crime as a felony because cost to replace the door is expected to exceed $1,000.
"Thankfully, none of the office had been vandalized," Echols said, but speculated that the vandals most likely intended to cause more damage. "I think they may have been spooked. We are on a major thoroughfare."
For Echols, it's nothing new. In 2002, someone threw a rock through a window at the Republican headquarters, then located at the Bashas' plaza at the north end of Humprheys Street.
"I still have that rock from two years ago," Echols said, pulling it out of the closest in his headquarters office.
Echols also reported that a number of Bush-Cheney supporters have had their signs torn down, and a few "have had swastikas painted on them." Brownshirts leave their calling card?
But the Republicans are not the only ones suffering at the hands of vandals.
Babbitt campaign communications director Carlos Vizcarra said that on Sunday, all of the signs posted out in front of the office had been slashed. "And we have had other signs that supporters have had stolen or torn up." He doesn't have any broken bones, bullet holes or broken windows, however, and Repubs lose at least as many signs.
Vizcarra said it was hard to tell if the damage was politically motivated, but one Babbitt supporter told the campaign that his signs were destroyed but not the Bush-Cheney signs posted by his neighbor. We have a Dem commissar's word for that, it must be true.
Officer David Holland, the responding officer, said that he logged several items into evidence for the investigation. Among those items were the cinder block, a "good" fingerprint card, signage stakes, beer bottles, a piece of paper with names on it, glass, a hubcap, and witness statements.
He also logged items of "anti-Bush literature," he said.
Among the statements on the literature was, "We can't get back the last four years. We can't lose the next four."
The case has been referred to the detective division for follow up to include contacting the names mentioned on the the piece of paper.
Supervisors with the patrol and detective divisions have not heard of any significant problems regarding the damaging or theft of campaign signs.
"We don't get that many reports," said Sgt. Gerry Blair of the police department. "Most of the time, people don't report it."
He added that it has been his experience that campaign sign damage or theft is considered a nuisance by residents, and it has become an expected occurrance.The department will receive sporadic reports during a campaign season, but not to the level mentioned by the political party headquarters staff in Flagstaff.
Felony criminal damage is another matter, Blair said. Those crimes, like what happened early this morning, seldom go unreported.
"This is a felony and will be treated as such, and if we figure out who did it, we'll pursue prosecution," Blair said.
Blair emphasized that residents who experience campaign sign damage or theft should call police, so investigators can begin discerning patterns in the crimes.
"We can't investigate crimes we don't know about," he said. or that don't happen....
Slashed and stolen signs are NOT equivalent to massive vandalism, let alone to the shootings, personal assaults, and polling place obstruction we have seen from lefty guerrillas in recent weeks. Yet broken signs and slashed bumper-stickers are about all the Democrat equivalency pimps can cling to in their effort to obscure this ongoing nation-wide rampage. They don't need much of a smokescreen, however, since the national socialist mainstream media can be counted on to ignore all but the most egregious assaults, and to ignore the pattern completely.
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Anybody see a trend here lately? Check this out. It seems that people with poor manners tilt toward sKerry.
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My Bush sign got trashed late today; there's some damage to the Bush sign two houses up the street. (Curiously, the moonbat left my Voinovich (Senator) and Regula (Congresscritter) signs intact.)
I plan to go get two replacements tomorrow after church. I may even volunteer for the 72-hour effort. I don't get mad, I get even.
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The United Nations has rejected an Iraqi request to train about 30 judges and prosecutors to try Saddam Hussein and his close associates. WOW
UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric on Friday said Secretary-General Kofi Annan turned down the request because Baghdad has the death penalty. Dujarric said the request was rejected in part because "serious doubts exist regarding the capability of the Iraqi special tribunal to meet relevant international standards. The secretary-general recently stated that UN officials should not be directly involved in lending assistance to any court or tribunal that is empowered to impose the death penalty." Another reason prompting the rejection was that the UN had no mandate to help train Iraqi judges. Annan's rejection follows a week-long training session in London for Iraqi judges and prosecutors chosen to try Saddam and his key associates. Saddam should demand Kofi be brought to his trial as a witness for the 'defense'
The London courses were organised by American lawyers. After they ended on Monday, both Iraqis and their Western advisers agreed that Iraqis were unprepared to undertake fully fledged trials soon. The UN is, however, assisting in Iraqi elections planned for January by training Iraqi elections workers in Mexico and other places outside the country. (Well, they will be trained properly in the art of the bribe in Old Mexico.)
Dujarric said 6000 Iraqis had completed direct or indirect training and were setting up 585 voter registration stations.
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Does anyone want UN trained judges anywhere? The UN's reputation for blinding corruption and graft precedes them where ever they go. But to throw a bone toward the UN's way, execute Saddam the UN approved way: with machetes and burning tire necklace, or him and his entire family buried in a mass grave, or starvation.
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That's the really funny thing about the UN. When they do stuff like this it just winds up aiding/benefitting the USA and hurting the UN.
PLUS, we have all the entertainment the UN provides.
Anyway, it would probably be better to have the US law schools like those at like Stanford, Texas and University of Chicago train Iraqi judges.
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I am a bigger crook, Kofi. No, it's me. I am the bigger crook. I stoled food and medicine from Iraqi children, that makes me the bigger crook, Jacques.
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Caption:
Your cut gets put into your account at Zurich, but only after Tayraysuh makes the run, sometime next week. Now, my payment, which was late last month by the way, will be filtered through your account in Zurish to my bank in Bern, Then I will take care of everyone else.
The Macedonian government confirmed Friday the death of three Macedonian hostages in Iraq, the MIA news agency reported. The preliminary report of the Macedonian governmental expert team confirmed the death of three Kumanovo (northern Macedonia) citizens, Dalibor Lazarevski, Zoran Naskovski and Dragan Markovic,said the spokesmen of the government and Foreign and Interior Ministries at a press conference in Skopje. The expert team checked the videotape, showing the execution ofMacedonian hostages, at the Al-Jazeera TV station in Qatar and sent a report to the government, they said, adding that a new expert team from Macedonia would be sent to Iraq to find the bodies of the victims. (Thinking Americans have Fox, Muslim terrorists have Al-Jazeera)
Macedonian President Branko Crvenkovski and Prime Minister HariKostov reiterated respectively Friday that the murder of three Macedonians would not make Macedonia withdraw its soldiers from Iraq. The three Macedonians, who worked for a US building company, were seized by militants in Iraq on August 21st. The Al-Jazeera broadcasted Monday the segments of the videotapeprovided by the rebel group, Islamic Army of Iraq, showing that the group had killed two of the three, Dalibor Lazarevski and Zoran Naskovski, due to "espionage in favor of US forces". According to MIA's report, the third, Dragan Markovic, was alsokilled. His family in Kumanovo recognized his clothes in the photographs presented to them by state organs Thursday night. A three-member expert team of Macedonian government, led by theDeputy Foreign Minister Fuad Hasanovic, departed Tuesday for Qatarto verify the information.
(Maybe Kerry can throw some insults in this direction---> Macedonia, a country of the US-led coalition, has 32 troops stationed in north of Baghdad. In addition, there are hundreds of Macedonian citizens, whose accurate number has not been available,working in Iraq for foreign companies.
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Manhattan meter maids, are you reading this? lol
An incensed Iranian motorist doused his car in petrol and set it ablaze with a match after picking up a parking ticket. Iran's ISNA student news service posted photographs of the charred shell of the car on its website and quoted witnesses describing the driver's frantic but fruitless pleas to the parking attendant not to issue a ticket. "Extremely angry, he took a jerrycan of petrol out of the boot and set fire to his car," ISNA quoted a witness in south Tehran saying.
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I'll burn my car that will show you! Oh Shi... WAIT!! MY CAR!!!
(Top terrorists terrified someone may get a taste of freedom)
Iranian officials have barred Iranian journalist and human rights activist Emadeddin Baghi from traveling to the United States for an awards ceremony in New York. Baghi was scheduled to receive the Civil Courage Prize from the Northcote Parkinson Fund, which honors "steadfast resistance to evil at great personal risk." Officials confiscated Baghi's passport and prevented him from boarding a flight out of Tehran on October 4. The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) reported that a state security agent informed Baghi that a court order prohibited him from leaving the country. In addition to attending the ceremony in New York, Baghi was planning to meet with human rights experts in the Netherlands and Canada. In 2000, the Iranian government jailed Baghi for publishing articles about the role of the country's intelligence ministry in the 1998 murders of several Iranian intellectuals and dissidents. After his release in February 2003, CPJ says that Baghi has been subjected to ongoing surveillance and court summonses. Baghi, who has authored 20 books, now heads the Committee for Defense of Prisoners Rights.
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We let Micheal Morre spew his crap all over the place and we protect his right to say what he does because it is his right to do so. And the right of free speech is one of the foundations of the Republic. And we're the bad guys. But a theocracy, or is it a thugocracy like Iran/Cuba/NK/Pick one can pull this shit and how much you want to bet the Amnesty Int won't say squat
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Funny how that is, eh? Pubs are called fascists, but it's the LLL socialists who want to shut down free speech when it doesn't serve them. We'll sink or swim based upon the will of the people. We won't like losing to insane people, but the Rule of Law means something to the "right". We won't step over that line unless the Rule of Law breaks down... then we'll frog-march their asses to the border, methinks. ;-)
The Mad Mullahs, well, that's just whatever mood they're in. Totalitarians do whatever they like -- until they're swinging from a lamppost, that is.
Tehrani people will watch a meteor rain Thursday night, a member of an Iranian astonomy group, Iran Amateur Association, forecast Thursday. Unless the Iranian nuclear issue is resolved within diplomatic circles (not going to happen) something else will be raining down from Iran's night time sky.
Around 22 o'clock (local time), the raining will begin from the Orion in the eastern horizon at a volume of up to 23 meteors per hour, Ghaffari said. Ghaffari ensured sky enthusiasts that the watch risks no damage to naked eyes. The raining comes to a peak at mid-day with the meteors falling at a speed of 66 kmph at impact, he noted.
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Earthquakes with biblical casualty numbers...
Fire raining from the sky...
This dosen't look good. Other Signs and Protents to keep an eye out for, anyone?
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Do the mullahs really think they can collect one dime before being overthrown?
Iran has asked the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to add 97.2 billion dollars to its Iraqi debt assessment to cover reparations for the 1980-1988 war between the two states, Middle East Economic Survey (MEES) reports in its latest edition. Quoting "authoritative sources," the industry newsletter said the request, made in a letter sent to the IMF last month, "could not have come at a worse time for Iraq" as it negotiates a reduction in its foreign debt. (Where is all of Saddam's U.N. 'Oil-for-Food'(ooops.. Fraud), billions? Hidden in French banks?
According to the IMF, Iraq is saddled with a foreign debt estimated at 120 billion dollars, excluding reparations it owes Kuwait for its 1990 invasion of the emirate and the subsequent Gulf War. Pressure is building among Western creditors to reach an agreement on canceling all or part of the debt by the end of the year. But key creditors in the Group of Seven industrialized nations are at odds over just how much should be forgiven immediately, with France advocating a 50-percent reduction and the United States and Britain urging a cut of 95 percent. Tehran has in the past demanded as much as 1,000 billion dollars in reparations from the regime of ousted president Saddam Hussein. What a bloody joke, plus unbelievable gall! Here are Iran's oil rich Muslim fanatical mullahs paying & training terrorist jihadees to infiltrate into Iraq where they blow up Iraqi oil pipelines & cause general chaos and death. In turn the identical ruling mullahs expect the current Iraqi government, which they are attacking through Iranian trained proxies, to shell out massive amounts of money to Tehran so Tehran can turn around & fund additional terrorists to destroy Iraq's economic infrastructure, using Iraqi money!
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Could be a pretext for invasion. That kind of debt would lead to eventual war anyway. The Mullahs are mad anyway because the Shia muslims in Iraq don't want a theocracy controled from Teran.
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Sock, talk about debt, maybe this story has something to do with the mullahs looking for more dough? (link)
You are right on most thinking Iraqi Shia.
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Itraq should tabulate all the damage caused by Iranian proxies and send that to mullahs. I am sure it would be quite nice round amount.
Or send an email message to the big mullah with a single glyph:
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The international rule is that "if you win, then you can extract 'reparations' from your defeated enemy." Last time I looked, the Iranians fought to a draw and accepted a ceasefire delineated in UN resolution 598, so technically, they are still at war with Iraq. It's strange to ask the UN to extract reparations from a country that was defeated and occupied by the "Great Satan" rather than by either Iran or the UN. All in all, nice try.
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Mark---don't get your mind too wrapped up in the MM's demand for Rape-a-nations. These guys are absolutely nuts, so what else is new? The EU negotiating with them is madness, too. The MMs fight their war on many fronts, and we must do the same.
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Alaska, we must do the same is correct.
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Tehran has in the past demanded as much as 1,000 billion dollars in reparations from the regime of ousted president Saddam Hussein.
Then let them sue in international court to get the money from the ousted regime of Saddam Hussein. But -- please clarify, those of you familiar with commercial law -- wouldn't that put them in line behind existing debt holders, such as all those owed salaries by the old regime, all those from whom the old regime made unpaid-for purchases (first domestically, then internationally), and of course Kuwait's war reparatations? I don't suppose there will be much left for the Mullahs even with significant portions of the old debt forgiven.
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... with France advocating a 50-percent reduction and the United States and Britain urging a cut of 95 percent.
Let's not allow this little gem to slip underneath our radar. France's indignant refusal to assist in the liberation of Iraq does not seem to be accompanied by a fraternal desire to see any sort of recovery in their fledgling national economy. Chalk up another big win for Gallic hypocrisy.
as the beat goes on... With 11 days to go before the November 2 presidential election, officials in the battleground state of Florida are looking into complaints of widespread voter fraud, the state's Department of Law Enforcement said. Over the last several weeks, the department has received numerous complaints from elections supervisors, the secretary of state's office and citizens alleging "sometimes organized efforts" to commit fraud in voter registrations, party affiliation forms and absentee ballots, the department said in a statement. Investigations are under way throughout the state. Some people who thought they were signing petitions apparently "later found out that their signatures or possible forged signatures were used to complete a fraudulent voter registration," the department said.
There were also reports of problems involving workers hired to obtain legitimate voter registrations. Some allegedly "filled in the information on the registration forms that should have been completed by the registrants," and in several cases workers "appear to have signed multiple voter registrations themselves using information obtained during the registration drive," the department said. "In many of the situations complained about, the workers were being paid on the basis of each registration form submitted." Most cases of voter fraud are third-degree felonies in Florida, punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine for each charge, the department said. (Coming in early 2005, "Dems in the Big House")
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Dozens of local voters said they have received phone calls at home from people claiming to be from the Franklin County Board of Elections and telling them to go to a wrong voting location to cast their ballots on Election Day, NBC 4's Elizabeth Scarborough reported. The Board of Elections said it has not made any such phone calls and is warning voters to beware. Voters have been calling the Board of Elections after receiving the calls from people claiming to be with the Board or with other groups. They said they were confused about where they should vote. With so many new voters this election season and with all of the hype surrounding the presidential election, Board of Elections officials said they are not surprised by the phony phone calls.
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are we to believe that NONE of these people had caller ID or that the feds can't check their phone records?
A national Republican group sued the Democratic controlled State Board of Elections today seeking to get its television ads on the air before Election Day. As the election battles heat up
The Republican Governors Association alleges the elections board is treating it differently from a similar Democratic group that was allowed to run advertisements for the governor's race. R-G-A leaders say they can't get a fair shake because all three Democrats on the five-member board have donated to Democratic Governor Mike Easley's campaign. The three Democrats voted last month to fine the R-G-A nearly 200 thousand dollars for airing an advertisement supporting Republican gubernatorial candidate Patrick Ballantine.
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There was a lot of talk on the Charlotte radio yesterday about this and also something about early voting on Sunday in Mecklinburg county at churches. I gathered the democrat elections board in Meck said Sunday voting was okay to get the black vote. The booths are to be set up at black churches in the area.
As for the item cited by the article I guess there is a hearing set for Monday.
I was only listening on my way home so only heard a small bit. Anyone else have any more info?
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More Dimocrat "Free Speech as long as its favorable to Democrats" crap coming from the former part of Jefferson.
Have these peopel no shame? Do they realize they are emulating Stalin?
U.S. and Iraqi forces have nabbed a senior member of wanted terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's inner circle during a raid in southern Falluja, according to the Multi-National Forces-Iraq. Five other people were also detained in the raid on the safe haven, which happened around 1:30 a.m. Saturday, the MNF-I statement said. Initially, the individual targeted and detained was thought to be a minor member of al-Zarqawi's circle. However, the MNF-I said that "due to a surge in the number of Zarqawi associates who have been captured or killed by MNF-I strikes and other operations, the member had moved up to take a critical position as a Zarqawi senior leader."
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Also from the linked article:
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has "serious doubts" that the special tribunal chosen to try Saddam Hussein and his top associates could meet judicial standards for fair and open proceedings, a U.N. spokesman said Friday. "It's doubtful whether U.N. officials should be involved in the establishment of a tribunal that is not a U.N. body," Stephane Dujarric said. "We have serious doubts regarding the capability of the Iraqi special tribunal to meet the relevant international standards."
Statements like this from Kofi has been a serial genocide enabler are a laugh. Kofi the Iraqi's will be glad to strech Saddams neck a quickly as they can. Don't worry they don't need your help. In fact I hope they kept that chipper around in case they decide to use it on him.
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Keep killing them at a rate such that novices become senior level within a week. Up and out personnel management courtesy of the US Armed Forces.
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10/23/2004 8:48
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"It's doubtful whether U.N. officials should be involved in the establishment of a tribunal that is not a U.N. body," Wonder if he means something like the IWCT at the Haque.Talk about a waste of time and money.
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Raptor, why do you think the Hague tribunal is a waste of time and money?
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10/23/2004 10:08
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Re #1 (SPD) Kofi has been a serial genocide enabler
In what ways has Kofi Annan been a serial genocide enabler?
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10/23/2004 10:10
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Mr. Sylwester, you are being disingenous. Use the brain you were born with.
Has the Hague tribunal managed to convict anyone yet? How long have they been working on this? What has been their per diem just for lunches, do you suppose?
Kofi Annan was in charge on the ground in Rwanda, and refused to pass on the military commander's urgent demands for more troops to prevent the upcoming massacre. Nor did he do anything once the massacre started.
Mr. Annan has been in charge during the entire series of events in Sudan: first the massacre of the black Christians and animists in the South, now the massacre of the black Muslims in Darfur region.
You have been reading Rantburg for some time. You know these things at least as well as this little housewife does. I shall expect proper answers to these questions, with working links, by the end of the weekend, as I'm sure you'll want to spend some time with your family.
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Tell me,Mike,just what has the IWCT done?How many war/genoicde/ethnic cleanser have been braught to trial?Don't you think that they should have managed to put people like Milosavich,and Koradic in prision by now.If you can't give me a deffinative answer,then you should at least concede that TW,and I just might be right.For the life of me I can not understand your blind loyalty to failed international orginazations.
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please provide evidence that Mike S has a brain. I'm looking forward to the evidence and will return here at 11AM PST to see what has been documented. Thanks in advance everyone. Provide footnotes, dates, and corroborating witnesses with affadavits (notarized). Thanks.
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10/23/2004 11:05
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Re #7 (Trailing Wife) Has the Hague tribunal managed to convict anyone yet?
Yes.
What has been their per diem just for lunches, do you suppose?
Above what level would the per diem indicate that Kofi Annan is a serial genocide enabler?
Kofi Annan was in charge on the ground in Rwanda, and refused to pass on the military commander's urgent demands for more troops to prevent the upcoming massacre. Nor did he do anything once the massacre started.
Pass on the demands to whom? If the demands had been passed on, then would the UN have sent more troops? What do you think Annan should have done once the massacre started?
Mr. Annan has been in charge during the entire series of events in Sudan
Mr. Annan has been in charge of the UN Secretariat, which implements the decisions of the UN Security Council. He has implemented all such resolutions about Sudan.
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10/23/2004 11:06
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And he happily pretends that the current state of affairs in Sudan is desireable; he pretends that the security council, or more accurately Sudan's economic partners France and China, and their veto power at the council, proves that the situation in Sudan is good.
I suspect it would be healthier for you if you pretended to believe in a pooka named Harvey. He's much nicer. I'll introduce you to him if we ever meet. He's the best friend anyone could ever have!
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10/23/2004 11:23
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Comment: Re #7 (Trailing Wife) Has the Hague tribunal managed to convict anyone yet? Yes.
Where's your proof,Mike?Let's see some documentation?Your always demanding others provide proof.Where's yours?Time to pony-up skippy!
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Here is a puff piece: Hague tribunal comes of age
Formed in 1993. Ninety-two accused war criminals have been brought before it, 42 of them already tried (including guilty pleas). It has completed no fewer than 22 trials; seven convicts have already served their time. Also: 1300 staff and a 100-million-euro budget (per year).
Let you decide if it is worth it.
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10/23/2004 11:51
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Just popping to check on that MS- brain evidence thing? Any luck yet?
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10/23/2004 11:52
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Thanks for the link, Ed. Are you satisfied with that, Raptor?
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10/23/2004 13:44
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Sounds expensive, even adjusting Nuremburg for inflation. But I guess it helps soften the Euro unemployment rate.
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10/23/2004 13:51
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More to the point... are the Hague Tribunal and its supporters willing to do anything to stop the ongoing genocide in Sudan or not?
Or are they merely a bunch of guys willing to show up after the battle is won by someone else and bayonet the enemy wounded?
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10/23/2004 14:02
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Hmmm - past 11AM - no evidence...
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10/23/2004 14:22
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LOL! I missed another train wreck at RantBurg Station.
The Boston Herald yesterday apologized for running explicit photos of an Emerson College student who was killed in the melee that followed the Red Sox' pennant victory. ``Yesterday, we ran two very graphic photos that angered and upset many in our community,'' Editorial Director Ken Chandler said. ``Our aim was to illustrate this terrible tragedy as comprehensively as possible and to prevent a repetition by portraying the harsh reality of what can happen when a crowd acts irresponsibly. ``It was never our intent to disrespect Victoria Snelgrove or her family,'' Chandler said. ``In retrospect, the images of this unusually ugly incident were too graphic. I apologize to the Snelgroves and the community at large.'' Snelgrove, who would have turned 22 next week, was a bystander in a crowd of thousands outside Fenway Park early Thursday when she was shot by one of several pepper balls fired by police to try to subdue fans throwing bottles and bricks. The Herald ran on its front and inside pages two photographs of her bloodied body splayed on Lansdowne Street, triggering scores of complaints. An incredible upbeat mood enveloped the Hub over the Red Sox's victory, then this horrible tragedy, taking the life of a bystander, 21 year old Victoria Snelgrove, a journalism major at Emerson College, who was shot in the eye by a 'non-lethal projectile' fired by a cop. Was this ***hole aiming at the girl's face?
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It's "non-lethal" at a safe range and the stupid fu asshat that fired it should have been aiming for a torso. What was a pepper ball being used on a crowd for? They are intended to be used on individuals not crowds. Sounds like the police were trying to start trouble not nip it in the bud.
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The projectile could have ricocheted off something--or its intended target might have ducked out of the way--nobody can say for sure based on newspaper articles alone. Certainly, if the cop who fired it was not aiming and was discharging this recklessly into a crowd, he needs to be punished.
This is most certainly a terrible tragedy, but I hope it doesn't prevent the police from responding to the inevitable riots coming next week. It is truly disgusting how these "celebrations" over a team's big win turn into orgies of burning and destruction anymore. The cops need to crack down on these morons--and somehow avoid incidents like this! This crap has been happening in Chicago, Montreal, Detroit, and many other cities--it needs to stop now.
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10/23/2004 10:48
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Unlike painballs, these pepper balls are made from hard plastic that shatters when it hits something hard. If it hit her square in the eye, I can understand where it might penetrate the thin bone of the eye socket.
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The so-called non-lethal baton-rounds (rubber bullets) in Northern Ireland used to kill people periodically, too. Best thing to do is to stay away from those demonstrations that look like they will deteriorate into mob actions. Learned that in Berkeley in the 60s. No bumps, no scars, got all fingers and toes.
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On Election Day, voters will be protected from campaign pressures by a 50-foot cone, an invisible barrier that campaign workers cannot breach. Not so for early voters. While the Voter's Bill of Rights in state law says they have a right to "vote free from coercion or intimidation by elections officers or any other person," a glitch in the newer early voting law does not include the same 50-foot guarantee.
As a result, with early voting taking place in busy public places like City Halls and libraries, voters are voicing complaints of being blocked by political mobs, or being singled out for their political views. Others say they have been grabbed, screamed at and cursed by political partisans of all stripes.
Republican Lawrence Gottfried, who became a poll watcher in Delray Beach after what he thought was inappropriate behavior at the polls, said the things he saw upset him. Gottfried said that while working at the Delray poll, actor Danny DeVito and his wife, actress Rhea Perlman, showed up. Gottfried is a fan, but he didn't ask for an autograph. "I said, `Look Mr. DeVito, I'm a big fan of yours and Rhea's, but you are blocking the entrance. You're campaigning, you've got a Kerry-Edwards button on, and it's not appropriate."
Gottfried, who used to be a Democrat, said the things he saw were "ridiculous." "There is a time for partisanship and it's OK to have a different point of view, but don't violate the sanctity of the polling area," he said.
Just like me. I wonder how many former Democrats have been created since 9/11?
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Those who block polling places, terrorize voters or election officials or otherwise attempt to interfere with the electoral process are striking at the very foundation of the democratic process and the Constitution.
They should be given one warning, then SHOT DEAD.
I am not kidding, if preserving the Constitutional process in the face of terrorist tactics does not justify lethal force, then nothing does.
Stay out of my way when I go to vote, pop-culture whores and slaves.
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Instead of a cone, they should make it pyramid-shaped... and put a large crystal at each corner. And make sure the feng shui is right - starting with a good space clearing. This will make the Hollywood type feel their muse when they enter the booth. There have been problems in the past with SAG members taking so long in the booth - trying to "get into character". Many have, thus empowered, committed suicide. This is a good thing - there's an over-abundance of character actors. And most are Donks, anyway.
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I will probably attempt to early vote in California. However, other than the state assembly race, it is alredy decided...
I am considering carrying pepper spray to the library where the close "early polling" place is in case such hollywierds show up and interfere, since both my wife and I are fans of the "W"....
Kerry will probably win here, but, I wonder if the dimbulbs in this state knew that our terminatin' governor is a member of Bush's slate of electors it would matter...probably not...
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Well, it could still be helpful for you to vote, in case we come close to one of those "since the D's won the popular vote the R's should just roll over and let their lawyers steal the electoral vote" situations like in 2000.
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I hope that this works and that they will be successful in stopping the madness in Darfur. We contribute the airlift and the Africans contribute the muscle and troops. I would like to see the Africans step up to the plate more. It will build some precidents for future actions and will take the stress off of our troops.
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10/23/2004 15:52
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No French airlift contribution?
IC. If ya broke as a joke, then ya broke.
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France has little or no Airlift capability. As a matter of fact they rely on the U.S.A.F. to shuttle their troops around when they are sent on 'peace keeping' missions. Of course we get little credit when we do give the French a lift somewhere.
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Whoa - so many questions, so little sense! We don't hafta like paint little roundels or something on the wings first, do we? That'd be so embarassing. Are they good tippers? Do we hafta serve funny food? Do they get to drink wine onboard? I'll bet they don't stay seated and mill around making a nuisance of themselves. I've been on Air Phrawnce - for a 14 hr leg - and know whereof I bitch!
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We're not the only nation in the world with airplanes! It never fails to amaze me how the US continues to stretch it's reserves on countries other countries could help, while we're at war!
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AP is right: better supplying transport than troops at this point. Canada & Australia are kicking in, too. I just hope the Europeans come through at their end.
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Better we help ferry in some one elses troops than our own. Its time for Africa to step up to the plate and help put the continent into some kind of shape. But if we could get the French to loan us a few Airbuses we could make the trip one way. Actually when they get the A380(?) flying a couple of squadrons of these would do wonders for airlifting of troops. Maybe Boeing could do double decked 747. Top deck for troops and the bottom for Hummers and Stykers
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I would imagine that we are dealing with Herc strips in that area of the world. Gravel if you are lucky, but probably just dirt strips. Airbuses won't cut it.
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I know Airbuses wouldn't cut, just hoping the birds would get bent enough to be turned into lawn ornaments
Wants ministers to hold tongues (translates into American as "Just shut up!")
Prime Minister Paul Martin is telling his cabinet to mind their own business when it comes to the U.S. presidential election. While some ministers have been speaking up about a preference for Democratic contender John Kerry in the Nov. 2 vote, Martin yesterday put a muzzle on the speculation. "The Americans will choose their president as Canadians will choose their prime minister, and I think that's the way we should let the comment go," Martin told reporters. The government will have to work with whoever wins on Nov. 2 and it has been standard practice in the past for ministers to keep their opinions to themselves on their preferred candidates.
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The U.S. military has arrested a "senior leader" in the network run by Jordanian terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, along with five others during overnight raids in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, officials said Saturday. American forces have stepped up operations in Fallujah in a bid to root out al-Zarqawi's terror group, Tawhid and Jihad, which is believed to operate from there. The group has been blamed in numerous suicide bombings and beheadings of foreign hostages, including recent twin blasts inside Baghdad's Green Zone, which houses the U.S and Iraqi leadership. The 1:30 a.m. raid in southern Fallujah targeted a site being used as a safe haven by al-Zarqawi's inner circle, according to a military statement. Intelligence sources said the man captured was previously thought to be a relatively minor member of the terror network. But because so many of al-Zarqawi's associates have been captured or killed, he moved up to take a more important role.
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Exxxcccceelllennntt!
(/Montgomery Burns)
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10/23/2004 10:49
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Anyone noticed that like his Hamas colleague this leader of suicide bombers allowed himself to be taken alive.
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"please don't kill me! I want the reward, really!"
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10/23/2004 11:06
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I suspect this raid actually happened several days prior and led to subsequent targeted bombings. Open wide Zarqawi, this one's aimed at your hindquarters..
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Fingers still crossed that our boys can serve his head up on a platter for W before the election.
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Pretending to be a Republican in Blue California.
I live solidly in "Blue" to-its-core Venice, Calif., a neighborhood so left-wing that anyone spotted in a Bush button is more likely to be a costumed trick-or-treater than an actual GOP voter. As a political and journalistic experiment, I decided to see how people who live in primarily one-party areas would react when faced with a living, breathing member of the opposition. I appointed myself an ambassador to bridge the Red-Blue divide and ventured into each side's territory dressed in the T-shirt, campaign button, and tote bag of the other...
For four days, I wandered Republican areas in a Kerry-Edwards shirt and button and loitered in the heart of Democratic country in styles by Bush-Cheney '04. I treated each foray as a run-of-the-mill busy day—visiting malls, stores, restaurants, coffee shops, and parks. I didn't try to provoke the opposition; I simply lived an active consumer's life while dressed in a great big Bush or Kerry T-shirt. I avoided any specifically political place, such as campaign headquarters, and any venue where politics would likely be discussed, such as churches or bookstores. The idea was not to see how people would deal with overt opposition but how the mere existence of a political opponent would be tolerated. And so, campaign logo on my chest, and no small amount of mortal terror in my heart, I sallied forth to see if political freedom would pass the T-shirt test in our two Americas, Red and Blue.
In my Kerry-Edwards shirt, I enter Red America certain that I am on the verge of inciting to rage a gang of angry yachtsmen who would soon be strapping me and my lefty leisurewear to their mizzenmast. Instead, I encounter only shades of indifference... Dressed to impress in my Bush-Cheney T-shirt, tote bag, and "W." button... A fashionably dressed woman seated at a sidewalk table makes a disgusted face at the sight of me. On line at Psychobabble coffee house, another woman in a blue velour tracksuit rolls her eyes and grimaces at me with undisguised hatred. Realizing there are no seats but the one next to me, she stares intently into her cup, avoiding my polluting glance, until another table opens and she quickly relocates. Out on the avenue once again, I am gifted with my second "Asshole" of the day, this time muttered by a young man with bright dyed raspberry hair... Driving home, I rip off my Bush-Cheney shirt so I can walk the streets of my neighborhood unjeered at and without terrifying little children....
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Very interesting, of course it's not a scientific endevour by any means, but it did seem obvious that he was treated with far more tolerance by the "red staters" than he was by the "blue".
I can't seem to grasp how being so intolerant makes one progressive?
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Its simple.
If you are left - why then being classless and free you are incapable of having CLASS!
Charlie Brooker
Saturday October 23, 2004
The Guardian
Heady times. The US election draws ever nearer, and while the rest of the world bangs its head against the floorboards screaming "Please God, not Bush!", the candidates clash head to head in a series of live televised debates. It's a bit like American Idol, but with terrifying global ramifications. You've
got to laugh. {SNIP} TO THE OFFENSIVE GARBAGE BY OSAMA-BAIT BROOKER On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you? Can the Secret Service go to London and question this piece of manure, the so-called "Charlie Brooker" , in a dark room with electrodes, iron maidens, and racks?
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Well, I just sent this to HOMELAND SECURITY. Maybe they have a working agreement with Scotland Yard. Free speech is good. Veiled threats against an allied leader are not part of free speech.
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This is insane. What, exactly, is it that Bush has done that's got these people in such a screaming, dribbling panic?
So far, we have (with U.N. approval) removed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and hunted down the Al-Qaeda fanatics it was harboring; put an end to the senseless, ineffectual farce of the U.N.'s attempts to disarm Saddam Hussein by going into Iraq and doing it ourselves; and have engineered a drastic stepping-up of law-enforcement efforts against Islamic terrorists and their enablers around the globe. And in the process of all this, we have adopted a policy which-- finally!-- absolutely INSISTS that these threats be dealt with.
And for this, Bush, and America, are hated with a fury I can't recall ever seeing before in any of my 55 years.
WHAT ARE THESE IDIOTS COMPLAINING ABOUT??????
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Dave D. This is my point. Hopefully enough people like me EMailed Homeland security as well as some of their own folks seeing this so they can contact Scotland Yard as I described above!
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How fucked is the Guardian? I believe this guy is their TV critic!
When Bush wins, I literally expect people like this heads to explode. They just physically and mentally won't be able to deal with it.
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tu3031 - Head explode? When "Team America II" comes out and they have a "London Newspaper Reporter" with an exploding head, you should contact the producers for royalties...
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The English are our kin. Pinko liberalism knows no boundaries, Al-Guardian is melting down as nor more or less that our fellow LLL.
I suggest they migrate on over to France or San Fran, at least they'll feel a bit better being among their fraternal cry-babies.
Stock up the valium!
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Holy shit!
This is not Al Guardian's first endorsement of a Bush assassination, but it is the most blatant.
To answer the future Gideon bait's critic's question, Oswald and Booth were both shot to death, Hinckley is still in the looney-bin, and two other Presidential assassins, Franco-phile Charles Guiteau and anarchist Leon Czolgosz, were hanged and electrocuted respectively.
Speaking of exploding heads, the local RC model shops might have the necessary tools, even at trans-Atlantic range.
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Here's the deal Dave, when you mix wack-job liberal political nonsense, with soul crushing envy you get this sort of twisted bullshit!
The lefty Euro-freaks know for a fact that their paltry little contributions to the world scene are rarely noticed compared to the juggernaught that is the USA.
It's just a real shame for the right minded and decent Euro's who have to live amoungst them.
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Well, Dave, it is possible that Brooker, like many British chatterati, has investments in companies that profited under the oil for food scam, or in other Arab-run enterprises. In the UK, Arab investment and influence in business and finance are so pervasive that open opposition to Islamic objectives can carry a definite economic penalty. The same is true for scientists, artists, activist groups, and others who depend in one way or another on voluntary grants or donations.
The Brit-bigots are not violent lunatics, they are something much worse, opportunists and whores.
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I hear what you guys are saying, and I can't argue with any of it; but it's starting to seem more like some kind of mass mental illness or something. This is just plain NUTS.
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why? Because the Tranzi dream is in tatters, and if Bush wins reelection, any remaining hope of reviving it will end. That's why.
The Tranzies believe in Democracy, as long as the people answer correctly. But the people shouldn't actually get a choice; they should just confirm the wisdom of the enlightened elite. Democracy is a fine thing if it's just for show, but the voters shouldn't actually be permitted to control major decisions because they're stupid and ignorant and unenlightened.
Especially if they're American voters, who most unfortunately get to choose the man who will fill the most powerful elective office on the planet, and who somehow don't realize that they're supposed to take their cues from their betters, like British leftist writers.
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Lol! Nice bitch-slap, SDB! I, myself, have given up on being a good follower of elitist fashion - I just can't quite get the hang of it. I guess I'll just have to remain a poor dumb cowboy, and try to be the best cowboy I can be. Sigh.
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PD - growing up in the SW USA, the worst cowboy is better than an EU role model
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That makes sense to me, Steven. And here at home, I have a hunch the furor among the leftist cogniscenti is propelled mainly by the realization that Bush, if re-elected, may well get to appoint two or even three new Supreme Court justices-- and for them, that would (or could, anyway) be an utter disaster.
But they're not talking much about that, preferring instead to whip up their knuckle-dragging hoards with "Bush Lied!" rhetoric and such.
All I know is, I've never seen an election this ugly and hateful-- not even in 1968 or 1972. Back then, the violent leftists were well outside the mainstream; but today's Democrats seem to have internalized the sensibilities of the "Days of Rage" crowd.
I don't like this. I don't like it one damned bit, because it's starting to feel like a civil war is brewing.
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The LLL hate of LBJ in the 60s was something to behold, but the LLL is outdoing itself today with Bush. It is absolutely pathological, all consuming. Pretty soon they will become autoigniting and the greenhouse gasses will go through the roof!
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A side note: I think we've been making a big, BIG mistake over the last decade and a half, talking about how we've "defeated Communism". In fact, we have not: it's alive and well right here. Progressivism, in my opinion, is nothing more than Stalinist communism with a crudely-drawn smiley face painted over it; and every "progressive" is just another budding Pol Pot.
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Frank - I'm afraid to ask - what is an EU role model? *cringes*
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Brooker bears an uncanny resemblance to Julius Streicher:
Same pointed chin, beady eyes, massive jawline, suspiciously non-Aryan nose (mother had Jewish patrons perhaps?).
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SDB, Its worse than that for the Left. If you look at the Left's position/arguments invariable they come down to 'We hold the moral high ground'. Post 9/11, its the Right that has been espousing positions that whatever you think about them from a pragmatic/utilitarian perspective, they are extremely difficult to argue against on moral grounds. Try and construct a moral argument for not removing Saddam.
This is why the Left has gone into such paroxisms. The moral underpining of their philosophy has been exposed as sand, and it isn't nice for the Left and in response they are lashing out at those who have caused it - personified in Bush.
From The New Yorker, an article by Philip Gourevitch
In the mid-nineties, Annan served as head of the U.N. Peacekeeping department for nearly four years, during which he oversaw the grim withdrawal of the U.N.'s force from Somalia, and the catastrophic failures of its missions in Bosnia and Rwanda. Nonetheless, he professes continued astonishment at the existence of evil. Since his elevation to Secretary-General in 1997, he has been charged by the U.N. Charter with looking after "the maintenance of international peace and security," and while that goal remains elusive, he exudes an uncanny sense of being at peace in himself. After all, as he never tires of pointing out, he has no practical political power. He controls no territory; he commands no troops; he cannot make or enforce laws; he cannot levy taxes; he exercises no administrative authority outside the U.N. bureaucracy, and he hasn't even got a vote in its General Assembly or on the Security Council. The Secretary-General, he says, is "invested only with the power that a united Security Council may wish to bestow, and the moral authority entrusted to him by the Charter"or, put more plainly, he has nothing but his voice. ....
Environmentalists hailed Russia as the world's ecological saviour yesterday after the Russian parliament made good on President Vladimir Putin's promise to endorse the Kyoto climate change pact. Yesterday's vote will see the UN treaty take effect early next year. The world's industrialised countries (with the exception of America, the largest polluter) will have to cut their collective emissions of six greenhouse gases to 5.2 per cent below 1990 levels in eight years or face stiff penalties and global humiliation... Once it is approved by Russia's upper house and President Vladimir Putin  which is all but assured  the pact will have been ratified by the necessary 55 countries that accounted for at least 55 per cent of global emissions in 1990. Russia's upper house still has to ratify the pact and Mr Putin sign it into law, but both are seen as being merely procedural. Yesterday's vote was billed as the one that counted.
Mr Putin signalled that Russia would sign on the dotted line in May, making it clear that EU support for Russia's bid to join the World Trade Organisation (WTO) had been influential. "We support the Kyoto process," he said at the time. "The fact that the EU has met us halfway in negotiations on the WTO could not but have helped Moscow's positive attitude to the question of ratifying the Kyoto protocol." Mr Putin decided to back the pact in the face of often fierce domestic opposition. Two reports  one by the country's academy of sciences and another by a senior policy adviser  recommended he reject because it would cause irreparable damage to Russia's economy. Andrei Illarionov, an adviser to Mr Putin on economic matters, was particularly negative, angering Jewish groups by likening it to a "global Auschwitz", whose main purpose was to stifle economic growth.
The importance of Russia's ratification cannot be overstated. With America's continued refusal to ratify Kyoto Russia, responsible for 17 per cent of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, essentially had the casting vote. To enter into force the pact needed to be ratified by developed countries responsible for 55 per cent of emissions. That figure was 44 per cent before Russia came on board; now it is 61...
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There is no way Russia produces 17 per cent of the worldâs greenhouse gas emissions. The US produces 25%. Russia with 1/2 the population, tiny apartments, little private transport, and anemic industry does not produce 40% per capita. Figures lie and liars figure.
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17% is the alleged Soviet figure, they're almost certainly way below that today. Methinks the Ruskies had this one played correctly from the start.
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ed: You have to calculate that, while Russia's industries are indeed anemic, they currently have zero pollution controls. So one old Russian plant produces pollution at levels not seen in the US since the 1950s (or before)--equivalent to dozens of modern US plants. Pollution in Russia is truly nightmarish, with schoolchildren often sent to the countryside just to get them out of the local contamination, and a horrific number of clearly pollution-related birth defects. The best visual image I can give for much of their industrial urban areas is the movie "Eraserhead".
I can believe 17% for the entire FSU, but Russia has slightly less than 1/2 the population of the FSU. So it makes no sense to assign the entire 1990 FSU CO2 budget to Russia. Can you say let the bribes commence?
FSU industries are extraordinarily polluting. I have seen it. But the CO2 output per unit production is more an indicator of energy effciency than a pollution metric.
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no word on how this'll affect China and India (it won't). Kyoto is a lying facade to strangle America's economy by the ankle-biters and weak sisters of the EU
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And the 55% magic number that magically puts Kyoto "in force" world-wide? Why, they pulled it out of their asses, of course! Along with most of everything else in the Kyoto Accord. Therefore, prudent people should wipe before handling.
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Kyoto is a lying facade to strangle America's economy by the ankle-biters and weak sisters of the EU.
True but since we've chosen not to play ball I see no downside for the US here. Exports from developed nations will become marginally less competitive in the global marketplace as compared to those from the US. This is a good thing for us.
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Check THIS out for links and info, from the non-Moonbat perspective.
You don't think that those who signed up for this phantasy won't attempt to punish those who didn't? If they could garner enough support to sign on, they'll have no difficulty getting support to add on punishment - likely via trade. I would be surprised if they didn't vote as a block to tie the WTO regs to this fairy tale - to, y'know, make it all "legitimate" and everything. It's already a UN thingy, so the next logical step...
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I agree that they'll try to tie us down with it thru regulatory, treaty, or moral tut-tutting. Any American politician willing to play that card should be run out of the country on a rail, right, Jean-Francois?
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No, I honestly don't think Western Europe can afford to kick off a full scale trade war over Kyoto. Most of them are carrying higher debt loads and facing relatively larger unfunded mandates than is the US. Having their producer's access to the world's richest consumer market damaged isn't something they can even afford to consider.
More likely we'll see them pushing a condemnation through the UN General Assembly where it can't be vetoed and/or attempting to sue for imagined damages in one of their European global courts.
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The numbers are fiction. They're based on "1990 emissions". In 1990, almost no one was tracking actual emissions on a comprehensive basis. So somebody was free to fiddle the numbers to their liking based on inference from fuel consumption, ASSumed efficiencies, etc. -- a consultant's dream job. I know of one large company that tried to work up their own 1990 numbers in about 1997 and found it to be an exercise in creativity.
The exercise is prone to error. Some companies use natural gas and oil as raw materials, for instance. In some cases, efficiencies are under-estimated because the people who sell new equipment and energy conservation systems stretch the truth to make their products seem more attractive. As one high-level corporate manager once said to me, "we've been doing energy efficiency improvement projects every year for decades -- you'd think we'd be at about 200% by now."
What should have been done in 1995 or 1997 was to set the baseline at about 1998 so some real numbers could have been obtained. Oh, well. That's Gore and Kerry for you -- half baked and half truths.
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Never before has there been such a systematic assault on industrial production.
Russia is playing with the EU politicians, and the EU citizens will pay for it in the form of reduced productivity and lower standards of living.
Note that it is a loss for everybody on the planet. Less productivity among 300m+ people means less trade means higher prices (over and above the expansion of fiat money, i.e. inflation).
Now, the only rational way around Kyoto would be for all industrialized countries to re-start nuclear energy production. But they're too busy helping Iran...
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"EU citizens will pay for it in the form of reduced productivity and lower standards of living." BZZZZZTTTT! We have a winner. That is what it's always been about, reducing the standard of living of the First world. This has almost zero to do with polution. If it did it would apply to 3rd and 2nd world nations. It doesnt. Guess who it's biggest target is? Gues what it's really about?
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Never before has there been such a systematic assault on industrial production.
That's true but an even more sinister aspect of Kyoto is that it's also the first global (or at least quasi-global) implementation of Marxist economics. Had the US signed on I'd be terribly worried about the future but as it stands I think our friends in Western Europe will be presenting to the world a very clear-eyed look at the junk science behind the treaty in relatively short order because without the designated stuckee they'll be left holding the bag.
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Never before has there been such a systematic assault on industrial production.
That's true but an even more sinister aspect of Kyoto is that it's also the first global (or at least quasi-global) implementation of Marxist economics. Had the US signed on I'd be terribly worried about the future but as it stands I think our friends in Western Europe will be presenting to the world a very clear-eyed look at the junk science behind the treaty in relatively short order because without the designated stuckee they'll be left holding the bag.
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Kerry "would have signed it" Gore "would have signed it" every democrat politician "would have signed it." You don't know how close we are to being stabed in the back by our own on this. The frankly don't give a shit they are all millionares and can afford to do what ever they want regardless.
Think about this you want to buy LPG or Charcoal to BBQ with and can't you find out it's because of Koyto. You can't drive your car or travel today because it's mandated becasue of Koyto. You get the picture it's about control by the leftist elites.
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hmmm but when they were in the Senate and had a chance to vote for it, nobody did, nor did Clinton/Gore push it. Talk is cheap, especially for chronic liars
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Putin's Russia is in Kyoto for the money, plain and simple. Their base numbers will bring in billions. Also, they will get into the WTO. Russia is acting like a 3rd world country. The EU is willing to give them billions of their taxpayers hard earned Euros without even a blink of the eye. It is all about money, the environmental issues are just a smokescreen.
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Clinton signed Kyoto to enhance his own personal popularity around the globe, pure and simple. He knew it didn't have a chance in the Senate.
The fact that the greens & Marxists are finding common ground is interesting but they're fundamentally very different groups. Marxists want to control the means of production, greens want to destroy it and send us back to the pre-industrial age. I could be wrong but that doesn't seem like a stable alliance.
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Y'all are forgetting something about the Kyoto accord:
The Europeans have never meant to abide by it.
Oh, they signed it, they ratified it (mostly), they wax eloquently on it, but as with many other solemn, sacred international treaties, they'll dump that sucker the moment it becomes inconvenient.
Remember the solemn, sacred financial accord the EU states signed to get their budget deficits reined in? Who's been the biggest defaulter since?
Why, the French of course. Quelle surprise!
The Kyoto accord has been aimed at one country all along: the US. They put in exemptions for India and China, they used funny numbers for Russia and others, they cooked the numbers as much as they dared for Europe, and they've prepared an extra-special edition of the "blind eye" for their friends. They've never intended to honor the sucker.
But we were supposed to. And every time we didn't, some NGO or LLL interest group would complain loudly and sue Uncle Sugar. They'd get us all tied up in legal knots. There would be grave pronouncements at international meetings comdeming American violations. Kyoto would be used in our elections with the malefactors (e.g., Republicans, factory owners, utilities, oil companies, etc) all on the defensive.
Kyoto has nothing to do with the environment, and everything to do with restraining the US.
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HT to Drudge - Schadenfreude serving
Only a couple hundred came out to see Cher Friday night at Miami Beach's CROBAR disco, but that did not stop the legendary diva from issuing an election warning against Republican control.
"There were supposed to be thousands of people here tonight. I'm not sure why that didn't happen, obviously the people putting on this thing were just not very good at it," an embarrassed Cher explained to the crowd. Alright, but you guys are here, that's right. When I was coming down the steps I though 'Oh s**t, well I'll just go out there and give it my best.'" why hundreds? maybe because you're a washed up has been?
The MIAMI HERALD had reported thousands were expected to rally at the discotheque. LOL
Cher warned moveon.org clubgoers to fight Bush, before "it's too late": "All the gay guys, all my friends, all my gay friends, you guys you have got to vote, alright? Because it would only be a matter of time before you guys would be so screwed, I cannot tell you. Because, you know, the people, like, in the very right wing of this party, of these Republicans, the very very right wing, the Jerry Falwell element, if they get any more power, you guys are going to be living in some state by yourselves. So, I hate scare tactics, but I really believe that that's true." state of Denial?
"I think that as Bush will, if Bush gets elected, he will put in new Superior Court judges, and these guys are not going to want to see gay pride week."
Cher declared that Abraham Lincoln "looks like Kerry on a crappy day."
Political activist Rosie O'Donnell is set to witness on Saturday night in Ft Lauderdale. O'Donnell will speak on Bush and his policies in Iraq at hotspot CLUB OVATION.
doesn't sound very hot to me...and what's up with Ex-Celebrities "witnessing". I guess you do that when you can't meet "performance" levels?
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I bet Gene Simmons is scrubbing his tongue with a brillo pad.
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How pathetic and surly and unrealistic and foolish and disingenuous and absurd can it get?
"Do you know who I am?" is certainly being overused this season, lol!
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If I want advice on what plastic surgeon to go to, Cher's my girl. On who I should vote for for president? Don't think so.
And Rosie's in Lauderdale tonight to speak on Iraq policy? Great! Maybe I'll fly down and get her advice on how to buy adopted children.
Big surprise, huh?
At least eight inmates released from detention at the U.S. military base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have returned to the battlefield against U.S. and coalition troops in Afghanistan and Pakistan, prompting complaints inside the Pentagon that international pressure had undermined the U.S. effort to fight Islamic fundamentalism. The most recent case is that of Abdullah Mehsud, a former Taliban commander released from the detention facility in March, who masterminded the recent kidnapping of two Chinese engineers in Pakistan. One of the engineers was killed during an Oct. 14 rescue attempt by the Pakistani military. The Mehsud case and incidents involving at least seven other former detainees demonstrate that mounting international pressure to either file charges against the prisoners or release them has led to inevitable mistakes, officials say. "I think it's time to question whether we are releasing too many of them," said a senior Defense Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The sheer number of people we are seeing on the battlefield is cause for concern." Ya think???
With the fading memory of the Sept. 11 attacks, officials say, international sympathy and legal support have gradually increased for about 550 inmates currently at the Guantanamo facility. Many have been held without charges or court hearings. Since late 2002, the Pentagon has released 202 detainees from Guantanamo, 146 of whom have been freed outright and 56 who have been handed over to the government of their homelands. Officials were also alarmed that Mehsud, a Pakistani national, may have hidden his true identity from U.S. interrogators during his 25 months in captivity. Recently, he has bragged to Pakistani reporters that he convinced his U.S. captors he was of Afghan descent. "If he fibbed, we've said from the beginning that these guys are masters of deception," said Maj. Mike Shavers, a Pentagon spokesman. Major, you sound like an idiot. Continued on Page 49
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The so-called international community hates us, so we can do no right, in their eyes. Big deal. So we must do right in our own interests, which means keeping the Gitmo Gang out of circulation by any means.
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I think we should have released them...into Cuba!
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Cripes... next time, forget about capturing them, just execute them.
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Ohio Republican Party officially filed challenges Friday to approximately 35,000 registrants in 65 counties where voter fraud is believed to have taken place. The state's Republican Party is pre-challenging these registrants' right to vote in the 2004 presidential election because mail to the new registrants was returned as undeliverable by U.S. Postal Service authorities. "Our goal in filing these pre-election challenges is to protect the integrity of Ohio's electoral process," said Bob Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party. "We want to ensure that voters are not disenfranchised by fraud in this election. This is an effort to clarify questionable registrations in advance so they don't become an issue on Election Day."
Earlier in the week, Bennett was joined by Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie at a news conference where he showed thousands of pieces of undeliverable mail to newly registered voters. Concern was raised when the rate of return was at an unprecedented higher rate than in the past. At the previous news conference, Bennett cited that the normal rate of return on new registrations in less than 1 percent. However, this year the rate of return has ranged from 2 percent to 11 percent in Ohio counties. Bennett also called on the Democratic Party to help in ensuring a fair and honest election this November, instead of making outrageous claims that the Republican Party is trying to suppress voters.
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Intimidation! Voter rights suppression! Meme! Meme! Meme!
The Dhimmidicks may have already succeeded in stealing this election - just through their "voter registration drives" - a joke if ever there was one in politics. If not, well, they'll try to do it in the courts.
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We may have to win this one ugly. Perhaps to the point of having entire counties thrown out because of the massive fraud. That is why we need to also concentrate on senate and house races in non battleground states which may be below the radar. Because of massive gerrymandering here in California, there is no district where voter registration is closer than 55-45 (counting 2 parties only) either way, but in other states, and in Senate races, by definition, immune to reapportionment lines we must proceed with the fight, and if on election fraud has altered things in Florida, and Ohio... God help us, but 2000 will look like a sunny picnic.
Key point of the article:
Prime Minister John Howard argues that Australia will meet the targets for greenhouse gas emissions set at Kyoto, but will not ratify the pact because he believes it would push industry and jobs offshore to countries which do not back the agreement. "The government will not sign the Kyoto protocol. Australia is already reducing greenhouse gas emissions," a spokesman for Howard told Reuters on Friday.
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Dead Jewes' writings praised by French critics
A hidden literary treasure of wartime France is taking the book world by storm, while reviving uncomfortable memories of French collaboration with the Nazis, more than 60 years after its author was sent to her death in Auschwitz. Irene Nemirovsky's Suite Française, transcribed and edited by her elder daughter, who clung to the manuscript as a keepsake of her mother, has been sold to publishers in 17 countries in an extraordinary bidding war. The book combines two novels, one dealing with the flight of Jews from Paris during the great exodus of 1940 and the second with the early period of Nazi occupation. It has won acclaim from French critics, with calls for a posthumous award when the Goncourt prize, the country's premier book award, is announced next month.
Suite Française - the completed half of what Nemirovsky planned as the four-volume "work of my life" - is regarded by some commentators as the most important descriptive wartime writing since Anne Frank's Diaries. From the appearance of her first novel, David Golder, in 1929, when she was 26, Nemirovsky was feted as the darling of Parisian literary society. But she was also a Jew, born in Kiev to a prosperous banker's family. When the Germans invaded France, Nemirovsky was deserted by almost all those who had previously sought her company and admired her work. Despite appeals to the German ambassador to Paris and Marshal Petain, the leader of the puppet Vichy regime, she was arrested by gendarmes and deported to Auschwitz in July 1942, dying of typhus a month later at the age of 39. Her conversion to Roman Catholicism as war broke out, and her family's move from Paris to Burgundy, failed to save her. Her husband, Michel Epstein, was detained later along with his two brothers and sister. They, too, perished, almost certainly in the Auschwitz gas chambers. Nemirovsky's daughters, Denise and Elisabeth, were spared, apparently because they reminded a German officer of his own child. For the rest of the war, they were cared for by a Catholic woman who moved them from one safe house to another. In a suitcase carried on each of a dozen moves, Denise Epstein kept the leather-bound notebooks containing her mother's last writings...
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And to think that several of my favourite writers escaped what would have been a certain death under the Nazis and Communists (e.g. Ludwig von Mises and Ayn Rand, who escaped from the Soviet Union through Berlin and I believe France).
That is one of the unseen tragedies of war and tyranny. As everybody always points out, millions of innocent, decent people killed -- but further, hundreds if not thousands of geniuses in countless professions are killed too.
Here is an example: A few years ago I visited an exhibit on amazing wooden furniture from early 20th century Central Europe. The factories producing these pieces of furniture were shut down during WW I. All owners, managers and the huge majority of employees died in the war. No one was left who knew the processes that had been developed in the previous decade. Hence no such furniture was ever made again.
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A powerful indictment of Vichy France. This is the portion of not so distant history the majority of Frenchmen simply can't recall too well.
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...while reviving uncomfortable memories of French collaboration with the Nazis
You're kidding? I thought everybody in France was blowing up trains or cutting Nazi sentries throats, like in the movies. Or did most of them join La Resistance after the war?
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They joined the resistance after the war like a lot of SKerry's "Winter Soldiers" were in the Army duringthe Vietnam War (i.e. huge amounts of them are fakers and liars, for political expediency).
Interesting editorial that affirms past discussions in Rantburg.
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Itâs a decent article with a clear statement of the problem and gives a couple of simple steps to reverse the trend.
It also points to Asian countries whose populations are older than Europeâs and who will face the crisis first. The Asian countries arenât likely to use immigration to offset population decline. The Asian countries are also more willing to use government-mandated solutions.
I believe the Asian countries will use four approaches:
First, economic incentives for productive citizens to have more children.
Two, advanced robotics applied to healthcare.
Three, advanced medicine to improve the health of the aging populace (allowing the elderly to continue contributing to society).
Four, cloning and artificial wombs to produce the desired population levels.
I donât believe nations such as Japan, South Korea or China will do nothing as their populations age and shrink.
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Wait a sec - China needs to shrink. Massively. Of course, this may be accomplished by nature in a SARS-like sweep, if they don't get on the stick and push health education and teach people, among other things, that living with their animals is a really bad idea.
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unfortunately this is another reason the powers-that-be wink 'n nod at the illegal immigration binge. It provides future workers to maintain the SSI program, given hispanic birth rates. A Faustian bargain
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China will shrink as their self-induced AIDS epidemic kicks in. Whole sections will be graveyards. Then, too, with all those one-child households, a generation from now things will be very different.
DEBKAfile's Palestinian sources reports: Arafat is more seriously ill than the bout of flu officially admitted. His health declined sharply in last 24 hours. Three Tunisian doctors are due in Ramallah - with Israeli PM's permission — to determine if immediate surgery indicated. He would then be flown to overseas hospital via Amman.
Perhaps the phat lady should begin warming up? One can only hope.
I believe she's running through her scales even as we speak blog...
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Debka==Salt to taste.
Arafart is not going anywhere. If he leaves the Koresh compound, Israel is not going to let him back in. Arafart wants to go as a martyr.(snicker>LOL>ROFLMAO) That means the 20-30 terrs holed up in the Koresh compound is going down, toes up.
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Oh boy, those Tunisian doctors can work wonders...right. Say hi to hitler and himmler in hell you POS
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Everything reported in this world should be salted to taste, Debka needs no more than the rest.
I've kept a skeptical but steady eye on Debka for the past few years. I'm confident to say I am most comfortable to put at least as much, if not more, stock in their reports compared to most any other of the media sources.
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Don't be so sure: Fred's other posted story from WTOP (AP wire?) has the same info on Tunisian doctors visiting the Fish...over the "flu"
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Lastest from Debka, salt as you would any other news dish--
Six Tunisians doctors arrive in Ramallah Saturday to examine Arafat who has broken Ramadan fast.
DEBKAfileâs Palestinian and intelligence sources report Arafat needs gall bladder surgery but his physicians more worried about recurring acute intestinal infection. The old Ramallah compound isn't smelling so good right now with those WMD poops. Definitive diagnosis calls for his removal to overseas hospital. Sharon under American and European pressure to permit not only his departure but also his return to Ramallah.
Go Fat Lady go! Sure he can leave, and sure he can come back.... in a casket! Surely a paleostani arafat funeral would give us some good slogan chanting, seething and ululating for our viewing enjoyment, and expand the IDF's target selection!
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The Arafish has held up in Ramallah the best that he can. He knows that by leaving he will be out of power, so he has stayed on in his little dump. Now he is physically paying the price, and time is running out. My only question is: will the IDF mount a special forces operation to recover the RED FOLDER before someone else gets it??????
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Also, I think that American pressure is just public words to sooth the minds of total idiots. The US has no use for the Arafish.
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As a humanitarian gesture, perhaps the IDF could create a sterile surgical area at the Muqata utilizing the Zionist Death Ray�
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Six Tunisian doctors are due in Ramallah...
Maybe they could get Suha to come down too. Then they could shrink them all down and inject them. They could call it "Disgusting Voyage"...
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Kalle,
You are right. He wants to be buried in Jerusalem. But, Sharon will NOT allow Arafat to be buried in Jerusalem. I think Arafart's burial will look something more like this.
One day in New York City
when the lights they looked so pretty
I was walking down the street in tipsy pride
No one I was distrubing
as I lay down by the curbing
And a pig came by and lay down by my side
As I lay there in the gutter
Thinking thoughts I could not utter
A lady passing by was heard to say
"You can tell a man who boozes
By the company he chooses"
And the pig got up and slowly walked away
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When he croaks, the IDF ought to seal off the Paleos until their civil war is over.
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Alaska Paul, in the decades that have passed since I learned this bit of doggerel, you are the first I've ever seen to quote it besides myself. Congratulations! My version is a little different and I blame it upon having learned it from "The Rugby Joke Book" that my friend brought back from Europe as a gift to me in the sixties. The second verse is a rough approximation, but the first is true to form.
One evening in October
when I was far from sober
to keep my feet from wandering, I tried.
My legs were all aflutter
so I lay down in the gutter
when a pig came up and lay down by my side.
We sang, "Never mind the weather
just as long as we're together,"
when a lady passing by was heard to say.
"You can tell a man who boozes
by the company he chooses."
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
Slowly walked away, slowly walked away.
Yes, the pig got up and slowly walked away.
On cattle shows I've centered
in one a pig I entered
being tired I lay down with him by my side.
My rest, disturbed by noises
that turned out to be some voices
I looked up and Greta Garbo caught my eye
She said "What a lof'ley fella."
As she poked me with her umbrella
then she turned and whispered to her friend, "I say,
you don't suppose that other
just might be his brother?"
And the pig got up and slowly walked away.
Slowly walked away, slowly walked away.
Yes, the pig got up and slowly walked away.
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Ah, Zenster! We be soul bro's Heh heh! I always admire one such as yourself that appreciates such great literature, **hic***
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Zenster! We be soul bro's
Alaska Paul, permit me to consider such an appellation a privilege. Never having been farther than a 100 mile canoe trip through the Bowron lakes, Alaska is on my list of places to visit farther north. I'd be honored to buy the first round should the chance present itself. You've demonstrated a consistently well-thought-out, yet appropriately intolerant attitude towards terrorism and the corruption that spawns it. Would that any of our politicians exhibited such a deft understanding of the situation. Skoal!
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I wonder if any other countries have full field hospitals, including sterile surgical suites, similar to those of the US military.
If they do, it's surprising none has been deployed on Arafat's behalf ...
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I wonder if any other countries have full field hospitals, including sterile surgical suites, similar to those of the US military. If they do, it's surprising none has been deployed on Arafat's behalf ...
Sadly, medically indicated euthanasia is still unpopular in the United States.
The bullet-riddled body of a Palestinian was found near a trash bin on a Gaza City street Saturday, and Hamas said it killed the man on suspicion he passed along information that helped Israel assassinate the group's founder and nine others. Also Saturday, five Tunisian doctors were en route to the West Bank to examine Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who has the flu. A Tunisian diplomat said Arafat is recovering, and that the exam is a precaution. Palestinian militants have killed dozens of alleged informants in the West Bank, but such attacks have been rare in the Gaza Strip, where the Palestinian security services still function to some degree. Hassan Musallam, in his 20s, had been missing for several days. His body was found two days after Israel killed the deputy chief of the Hamas military wing, Adnan al-Ghoul, in an airstrike. The secretive Al-Ghoul, a top bombmaker and weapons engineer, had been on Israel's most-wanted list since 1990. The Hamas military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, said Musallam was interrogated and "provided us with information and details about the way he assisted the Zionist enemy in carrying out the crimes of assassination."
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welcome to Paranoia and Purge City, County of Gaza
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Five doctors for a flu follow-up? That's a lot of collaboration too!
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Tom "Five doctors for a flu follow-up? That's a lot of collaboration too!"
One to check on the Rais, the other four to be kidnapped and held for ransom.
Two French soldiers with the NATO-led peacekeeping force in Afghanistan died in a road accident near Kabul this week, the alliance said Saturday. The soldiers' vehicle overturned on a road north of the capital on Thursday, said spokesman Lt. Col. Patrick Poulain. No other vehicle or person was involved in the accident. They were the first French soldiers in the nearly 9,350-strong multinational peacekeeping mission to die in Afghanistan, and the accident is under investigation. The spokesman did not name the soldiers, who served in a reconnaissance squadron, part of the Third Regiment of the Hussards, based in Germany.
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Are these the first French casualties in the greater WoT, besides of course, the French national terrorists?
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Rest in Peace.
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saw that on Captain's Quarters too - good for Powell: A North Korean Foreign Ministry spokesman told the official KCNA news agency that the United States must drop its hostile policy and be prepared to join a compensation package in return for the North freezing its nuclear programs.
The North also said the United States must accept its proposal to discuss what it called "South Korea's nuclear problem" first at the talks, referring to tests with nuclear materials conducted in the South by scientists in the past that Seoul said were never authorized.
Ummm....no
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Compensation package?
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
You won't get one from the Bush Administration. Maybe you can hold out for Kerry for a long shot attempt at Jimmuh/Halfbright dhimmitude appeasement. Don't hold your breath. And the SKor plutonium thing was small potatoes. It is a red DEAD HERRING, heh.
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Democratic nominee John Kerry contends the administration has mishandled the North Korea problem and should have embraced the Clinton-era policy of direct talks with the country.
Suspected Islamic militants killed 16 people heading to a soccer match in a pre-dawn ambush south of Algeria's capital Saturday _ the first bloodshed since the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, an official statement said. The victims, mostly youths, were driving to Algiers for the match when they were ambushed on the road near Medea, 30 miles south of the capital. They were buried Saturday, and the mourners included Interior Minister Noureddine Yazid Zerhouni. In the past, Algeria's Islamic rebels have intensified their campaign of violence during Ramadan, killing about 1,200 people during the month of fasting in 1997 at the height of their insurgency.
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If you kill 16 people are you still a suspected militant?
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Well, during Ramadan, it could just be put down to "religious exuberance"
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Lol, Para! Prolly like the UN thingy where they have some magic criteria for "genocide" vs regular old run-of-the-mill mass murder. So I'll bet there's a secret nuance code for when someone graduates from "suspected militant" to "murdering terrorist".
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Well, Para, we're going to have to stop joking about suspecting Presbyterians in these attacks, since some of that faction's most noted authorities have joined the "militants" themselves..
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Driving fuel, water, ice and the U.S. mail across Iraq is dangerous business, but for many civilian contractors it is worth the risk for a chance to serve their country. This is the untold story of America's unsung heroes working in Iraq. "This job is unlike any other job in the world. Soon as you go outside the wire, you know, I mean, it's dangerous," said driver Paul Chevalier.
Civilian contractors working for KBR, the Houston-based Halliburton subsidiary, drive more than 3.3 million miles a month in Iraq to transport fuel and supplies for the U.S. Army. Seventeen drivers have died in ambushes. Many braving the job came for the opportunity to earn three times their normal salary, but have discovered a calling to help the Iraqi people since getting behind the wheel in the liberated country. Ruthie Brisbane, a 54-year-old grandmother working in Iraq, explained what she wants for the Iraqis: "That they can be free and live without fear ... I want to see them live a life very close to ours."
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"I sincerely apologize, and I meant in no way to denigrate the tragic plight of America's barefoot and pregnant white trash women," said Heinz-Kerry. "They are the real heroes, facing the daily living hell of raising their ugly and unwanted children, and many must make do without access to the most basic childcare staff or personal Esalen trainers."
LOL
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Interviews with dozens of former and current Iraqi officials by congressional investigators have produced new evidence that Saddam Hussein micro-managed business deals under the U.N. oil-for-food program to maximize political influence with important foreign governments like Russia and neighboring Arab states. The Iraqi officials, who were flown outside of Iraq for their own safety during the interviews, provided a list of foreign companies favored by Saddam and his top lieutenants for import contracts under the U.N. program. They also revealed a parallel blacklist of companies that the then-Iraq leader disqualified from getting deals, investigators told The Associated Press.
The precaution of redoubled secrecy comes after an Iraqi official involved in the oil-for-food investigation of corruption died in a car bombing in late June after speaking with investigators from the House International Relations Committee. The official, Ehsan Karim, who headed the Iraqi Finance Ministry's audit board, was interviewed in Amman, Jordan, on May 21. The Iraqi officials also helped investigators identify Iraqi front companies, which operated abroad to solicit and process alleged bribes from foreign companies and to help facilitate imports for the Iraqi government, including dual-use military goods such as vehicles. The oil-for-food program, which ran from 1996 to 2003, was created to permit the former Iraqi government to sell limited amounts of oil in exchange for humanitarian goods as an exception to U.N. sanctions imposed after Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. One of the documents, known as "the exempt list" and obtained by AP from congressional investigators at the House International Relations Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Hyde, R-Ill., catalogues companies personally approved by Saddam and top lieutenants to circumvent Iraqi regulations to sign deals. The list contains hundreds of names of companies from more than two dozen countries. No French, Chinese or American companies are on the list, but more than 280 Russian and 100 Saudi companies account for well over half of the list. The investigator who provided the document to AP said Congress might not have the full list.
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No French, Chinese or American companies are on the list, but more than 280 Russian and 100 Saudi companies account for well over half of the list.
The Swiss company Cotecna must be on the list somewhere. After all, Kojo Annan worked for a consulting firm that did some consulting work for Cotecna.
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The investigator who provided the document to AP said Congress might not have the full list.
Enlightened moderates are out, Madrassahs are in. In 1947, Pakistan had some 20 dozen madrassahs. The half of Pakistan left now, according to interior ministry's rather conservative estimate, has 20,000 with 3 million students and they churn out 40,000 graduates every year. Pakistan's primary schools are not far behind. The Economic Survey 2003-04 says 17.4 million Pakistani children are attending primary schools (according to UNICEF, an additional 13 million school-age Pakistanis will never see the inside of a classroom). Here is a sample of what the fortunate 17.4 million primary school Pakistani children are being taught: The official Curriculum Document, Primary Education, Class K-V specifically prescribes "simple stories to urge jihad ." Under 'Activity 4', the specific prescription for three- and eight-year-old Pakistanis is: "To make speeches on jihad and shahadat." The Ministry of Education..formally endorses the following 'Learning Outcome': "Recognize the importance of jihad in every sphere of life." The officially certified direction for five- and ten-year-old Pakistanis is: "To make speeches on Jihad ." The "Affective Objective" for Classes I-V is: "Concepts of Ideology of Pakistan, Muslim Ummah and Jihad."
Of the 17.4 million primary schoolers only 4 million enter the Middle School (the rest drop out). The lucky 4 million are given further tutoring in jihad. Pakistani textbook writers are obliged under explicit instructions from the Ministry of Education, the National Bureau of Curriculum and Textbooks, to "create a feeling among students that they are the members of a Muslim nation. Therefore, in accordance with the Islamic tradition, they have to be truthful, honest, patriotic and life-sacrificing mujahids." The National Bureau of Curriculum and Textbooks, Social Studies Curriculum for Classes VI-VIII under the National Curriculum Committee, has similar recommendations for jihad, Tableegh [proselytize], Shahdat, sacrifice and the rest. Of the 4 million middle schoolers only 1.6 million enter the High School. The lucky 1.6 million then receive advance jihad tutoring. Urdu Curriculum (Compulsory, optional and Easy course), Classes IX and X, National Bureau of Curriculum and Textbooks, Ministry of Education sanctions the following 'Learning Outcome': "Must be aware of the blessings of jihad ." The Curriculum Wing of the Ministry of Education, more often than not, equates jihad with guerilla warfare. Our education ministry continues to 'inspire' our children to become guerrilla fighters. Punjab Textbook Board continues to make our children "aware of the blessings of jihad " to "make speeches on jihad " to "create a yearning for jihad" to "love and aspire for jihad ."
As a consequence of it all, our madrasas manage to add 40,000 real jihadis every year to our existing reservoir of jihadis. Then there are 1.6 million wanna-be jihadis who graduate from our 16,059 high schools every year. Does our education ministry know that right after the Battle of Khyber our Holy Prophet (PBUH) had stated that jihad-e-asghar (smaller jihad) is over and that jihad-e-akbar (greater jihad) had begun? Doesn't that mean the end of armed jihad (jihad-e-asghar) and the beginning of jihad against poverty and illiteracy? To be certain, we are going to need all the jihadis we can produce and then some more. At least four major jihads are coming up. Make no mistake: the first jihad is against all the 'enlightened moderate Pakistanis'; the second is against the 293 million inhabitants of the 'Great Satan'; the third, against the more than 6 million residents of Israel ; and then there are a billion Hindus to be taken care of. An 'enlightened moderate Pakistani' is now an endangered species. While the WWF is overly busy saving sperm whales, pandas, Iberian ibexes, Monk seals, Blue-fin tuna, one-horned rhinoceroses, seahorses and Lady's Slipper orchids there is no one to save enlightened moderate Pakistanis.
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Florida probes activists' voter-registration effort
Law-enforcement authorities in Florida have begun a statewide investigation into suspected voter fraud, focusing on accusations that a liberal activist group used a statewide petition drive for a constitutional amendment to raise the minimum wage to improperly register anti-President Bush voters. Amid accusations that voter registration applications have been switched, duplicated, destroyed, forged and otherwise improperly obtained, the investigation has centered, in part, on petition and registration efforts by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). ACORN, which claims to have registered 1.1 million new voters nationwide since July 2003, has actively been collecting signatures on petitions for a constitutional amendment to raise the state's minimum wage from $5.15 to $6.15 an hour. That proposal, now on the Nov. 2 ballot, is expected to boost turnout among 300,000 poor and blue-collar voters in the state , who would be expected to support Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts rather than Mr. Bush.
Voter fraud is of particularly interest in Florida, a battleground state, where recounts and legal challenges after the 2000 presidential elections delayed final results for five weeks before Mr. Bush was declared the winner in Florida by 537 votes. ACORN claims to have registered 212,000 new voters in Florida for the Nov. 2 elections. An ACORN offshoot, known as Floridians for All, a political action committee, says it has collected signed petitions from nearly 1 million people in the state to increase the minimum wage.
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"In Florida, most violations of voter fraud are a third-degree felony" - which is reason in and of itself to keep felons from voting. You want to steal my vote, be prepared to lose yours.
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But if felons can vote, then we have an endless loop.......
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By the time the "democrat public employees union members" doing the investigation finish we will have held 3 more election and the statute of limitations will have run out.
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careful in tarring: I belong to my public employees union (agency shop) but withhold political dues (Beck decision)....most engineers (not all, of course) are Reps
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They are going to have Engineers investigating this? I bet they use lawyers. I wonder if lawyers withold their political dues? Betcha they don't. Betcha even most cops don't and they tend to be conservative. But I bet all the leadership are Dems. So I will be waiting till hell freezes over for this to resolve.
Cincinnati's headquarters for the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign was broken into overnight. Money and a sign were taken from the office, on Seventh Street near Court Street. The thieves got in by breaking out a window. The office was also ransacked, officials said. It also houses other Republican organizations. No one had been arrested. The dead Nazi Brownshirts in hell are grinning again tonight
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It seems that there've been one or two of these events almost every day for weeks now. Is anyone on the 'net collecting them in one place?
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Yep - trying to stop the famous "96 hour" campaign that the Republicans use to jump their core turnout.
But its nto going to work: Republicans tend to have a lot of Christians working for them, and they know that Jesus Saves, so they do too. [Rimshot: Ba-dum-ching]
I am now and OFFICIAL POLL WATCHER for the Republican Party.
Cannot wear anything supporting a political party, so...
Going to go get a high and tight, and wear my biggest Black Cowboy hat, pointy toed boots, and VFW shirt and American Legion Jacket that has the big gold Cavalry Crossed-sabres on the back.
And dare ANYONE to try monkey business in my assigned precinct.
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OS, what is a "high and tight"? Oh, and congratulations! Trouble won't be trouble anymore when you are done with it. Remember to play nicely with your toys, and clean up afterwards ;-)
SENATOR CARL LEVIN, the Senate's fiercest and most partisan critic of the Bush administration, released a "report" Thursday challenging the administration's claim that Iraq had a relationship with al Qaeda. The report was produced by the Democratic staff of the Senate Armed Services Committee, with no input from the panel's Republicans. Its release comes 13 days before the presidential election. If those facts alone don't suggest a transparently political maneuver, the contents of the report do. The 45-page Levin report is third-rate partisan hack-work. Its anonymous authors and its namesake should be deeply embarrassed. I say this not only because I disagree strongly with its inherently subjective conclusions. Basic facts are wrong. Congressional testimony is misdated. Quotes are erroneously sourced. Context is nonexistent.
First, some background on Levin. No one in Congress has been as dogged in his efforts to downplay the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda. He has grilled witnesses in Congress, crafted numerous press releases, and sent dozens of letters to the executive branch. He even held a preemptive press conference to challenge the Senate Intelligence Committee's review of pre-Iraq war intelligence. He did this despite the fact that he signed the unanimous, bipartisan report.
Shortly after the end of the Iraq war, Levin faulted the intelligence community for bowing to administration pressure and producing overheated intelligence products. This is how he put it in a June 16, 2003, interview on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer. "We were told by the intelligence community that there was a very strong link between al Qaeda and Iraq." Eight months later, Levin reversed himself in an interview on Fox News on February 2, 2004. "The intel didn't say that there is a direct connection between al Qaeda and Iraq. That was not the intel. That's what this administration exaggerated to produce."
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Levin: âOh no, no relationship whatsoever. Sure, they had lunch every now and then, but discussions on how to finish off us infidels once and for all, is that really a crime?â
/Levin
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Levin is a self hating jew. What else do you need to know.
Thanks for your insightful diagnosis, SPD.
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Levin does have one redeeming quality. He has one of the most adventureous hair jobs on earth. As more leaves, the blender gets turned up. Look for nasal and ear hairs to be thrown onto the pate. He and that idiot Graham from Florida are absolute baffoons, not serious people for serious times.
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Ooooh, don't forget the Chia Pet - Joe Biden! Just think, he wants to be our next SecState! This is the guy who's stumping for Skeery calling Bush "brain dead" - and SecState is his payoff. Must've put Holbrooke's shorts in a bunch. He'll have to settle for NSA Advisor or go back to UN Amb or Amb-at-large or something. Gotta hurt, y'know?
But anyway, ol' Plagiarism 101 Chia Pet Joe - don't forget him when you think "Adventures in Hair"!
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Levin has had his ass handed to him at "debates" in the Jewish community between him and Kock, and even a Blogger or two who spoke against him. Of course these were all out in NJ and Fla, so not much was heard nationaly about it, nor in his home state.
France's anti-terrorist police on Friday identified a young Frenchman killed fighting the United States in Iraq, the first confirmed case of what is believed to be a growing stream of Muslims heading from Europe to fight what they regard as a new holy war. Redouane el-Hakim, 19, the son of Tunisian immigrants, died during an American bombardment of insurgents in Fallujah on July 17, according to an intelligence official close to the case. Intelligence officials fear that for a new generation of disaffected European Muslims, Iraq could become what Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya were for European Islamic militants in past decades: a galvanizing cause that sends idealistic young men abroad, trains them and puts them in touch with a more radical global network of terrorists. In the past, many young Europeans who fought in those wars came back to Europe to plot terrorist attacks at home.
"We consider these people dangerous because those who go will come back once their mission is accomplished," the intelligence official said. "Then they can use the knowledge gained there in France, Europe or the United States. It's the same as those who went to Afghanistan or Chechnya." Hundreds of young militant Muslim men have left Europe to fight in Iraq, according to senior counterterrorism officials in four European countries. They have been recruited through mosques, Muslim centers and militant Web sites by several groups, including Ansar al-Islam, the Kurdish terrorist group once based in northern Iraq. French officials stress that there is not yet evidence of a broad French network funneling fighters to Iraq, and terrorism experts say the vast majority of foreign fighters there come from other countries in the region. But experience with returning fighters from other Muslim holy wars is causing anxiety in Europe. Virtually all of the major terrorists arrested in Europe in the past three years spent time in Bosnia, Afghanistan or Chechnya. Two years ago, French anti-terrorism police broke up a cell of Chechen-trained militants who they believe were plotting a chemical attack in Paris. Those arrests triggered an investigation that is still active into what French counterterrorism officials call "the Chechen network."
"Now, the new land of jihad is Iraq," the intelligence official said. "There, they're trained, they fight and acquire a technique and the indoctrination sufficient to act on when they return." A network of recruiters for Iraq first appeared in Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Norway within months of the U.S.-led invasion, officials said. Some officials said that the recruitment effort has spread to other countries in Europe, including Belgium and Switzerland. The network provides forged documents, financing, training and information about infiltration routes into the country. The movement to Iraq has increased in recent months, officials say, but they decline to provide specifics. One senior European intelligence official said that there is evidence that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born militant believed to be operating in Fallujah, has established a sophisticated network that has helped recruit nearly 1,000 young men from the Middle East and Europe. "These young men know where the action is. They easily cross the borders of Syria or Turkey, and they go directly to Fallujah," the official said.
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"Now, the new land of jihad is Iraq," the intelligence official said. "There, theyâre trained, they fight and acquire a technique and the indoctrination sufficient to act on IF when they return."
I think the ratio of those staying (permanently) and returning is very, very slim.
The Bush Doctrine in action.
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â¦causing anxiety in Europe
Besides us having to deal with them how is that a bad thing? Europe needs to get enough anxiety to do something beside whining.
The senior law enforcement official in Chechnya announced Friday that the authorities had nearly captured Aslan Maskhadov, one of the best-known leaders of the Chechen resistance, and that Mr. Maskhadov was planning to surrender soon. The announcement, made by the first deputy prime minister, Ramzan Kadyrov, in Grozny, the Chechen capital, underscored the sense of urgency driving the hunts for senior separatists. It also exposed the tension among the Russian security agencies conducting them. Mr. Kadyrov, the outspoken leader of a paramilitary force that is publicly loyal to Moscow and composed principally of former Chechen rebels, was unequivocal, saying that Mr. Maskhadov had narrowly escaped a recent battle in the Nozhai Yurt district, and "is searching for ways to reach the federal center to hold talks on laying down arms. He will surrender to the authorities in the near future, or we will eliminate him."
The Kremlin has made the capture of insurgent leaders a priority in its effort to quell a guerrilla war that has spilled over Chechnya's border several times this year, including the attack last month at Middle School No. 1 in Beslan. Mr. Kadyrov, son of Akhmad Kadyrov, the Chechen president who was assassinated this spring, is young, unrestrained and violent, and often described as a wild card in Chechen affairs. Even as he spoke of imminent success, security agencies involved in the search distanced themselves from his remarks. Maj. Gen. Ilya Shabalkin, for counterterrorism forces in the North Caucasus, said he had no information that Mr. Maskhadov was contemplating surrender. "Let's talk about realistic topics," he said.
Sergei N. Ignatchenko, the senior spokesman for the Federal Security Service, the domestic successor to the K.G.B., was more circumspect but made clear the agency would not second Mr. Kadyrov's claim. "Kadyrov said this, and we don't comment on what he says," he said. "There can be no justification for terror against innocent citizens, and that acts like this prevent international recognition of the Chechen state," Mr. Maskhadov said, according to a statement posted on a rebel Web site that has been closely identified with him.
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A suicide attacker killed himself and wounded at least seven others, including three members of the NATO-led peacekeeping force, in a grenade attack on a busy shopping street in central Kabul on Saturday. Kabul police chief General Baba Jan said the attacker had six hand grenades strapped to his body, of which three failed to detonate.
"Not that it mattered much to him, as it turns out."
"One person was killed who is believed to have been the attacker," said Lt Colonel Patrick Poulain, spokesman at the headquarters of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in the Afghan capital. The bloody corpse of the attacker lay on the sidewalk, near a damaged ISAF vehicle, Reuters eyewitnesses said. The attack happened on Chicken Street, a well-known haunt for foreigners shopping for carpets, jewelry and antiques. Poulain said seven people were wounded in the blast. One of the ISAF troops was in a serious condition, while the other two were only slightly hurt. There were no details on their nationalities. Poulain said one of the civilians wounded was believed to be a foreign woman, but added that this was unconfirmed.
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Anyone want to bet on how many more of these murder bombings will be required for the Islamic world to see just how foolish it is to inculcate a mentality of mindless violence in its believers?
There is no evidence to suggest that Pakistan has made a strategic decision to abandon militancy in Jammu and Kashmir, claims a US think tank. According to the US Institute of Peace Kashmir-focused outfits have enjoyed the extensive and enduring patronage of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and the Pakistan Army. While the study by the institute accepts that Pakistan appears to have lowered the profiles of various militant organisations and restricted their ability to raise funds, recruit personnel, and launch teams into the Indian side of Kashmir, there is still an international concern about Islamabad's continued support of militant training and operations.
The concern is most apparent in the case of the United States in relation to its security interests in the region, warranting sustained pressure on Islamabad to abandon its support of proxy warfare, reports the Daily Times. The study further goes on to claim that most Pakistanis interviewed are of the view that Al Qaeda is not an asset to the Pakistan Army, but a source of much trouble for Pakistan's Kashmir and Afghanistan strategies. According to the research, "Pakistan, that continues to desire meaningful engagement with the United States, will likely be motivated to continue its current efforts to calibrate the violence that emerges from militant camps."
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A suspected member of the Muslim extremist Abu Sayyaf group that seized tourists and workers from a Philippine resort three years ago has been captured, police said Saturday.
Galib Daman, who carries a P200,000 (US$3,570; euro 2,810) bounty on his head, was arrested Thursday in the southern port city of Zamboanga by police and army intelligence agents, said the regional police chief, Vidal Querol.
Querol said Daman allegedly was involved in the 2001 raid on the Dos Palmas resort southwest of Manila where the Abu Sayyaf seized three Americans and 17 Filipinos. He is also suspected of involvement in the mass kidnapping of students and teachers on Basilan Island in 2000.
The announcement of Daman's arrest came a day after the Australian government said it had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the Philippines and advised travelers to stay away from southern regions used as bases by terror groups.
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Associates of Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat said on Friday that his health was in decline again, Channel One has reported. Hadash MK Ahmed Tibi dismissed the reports, stating that Arafat was only suffering another bout of the flu.
"Inclining, perhaps, or reclining, but certainly not declining."
Just like Generalissimo Franco.
The chairman has apparently had a temperature, fatigue and other signs of the disease in recent days. However, one of Arafat's aides had said on Tuesday that Arafat's health had improved.
"Piffle! He's the very picture of health."
Arafat apparently caught his cold two weeks ago on Tuesday, while walking in the windy courtyard of his headquarters, aides said. That evening, he felt nauseous during dinner, couldn't finish his meal and went to bed early, an aide added. His condition was so bad Friday that he was unable to complete the first day of Ramadan prayers and unlike past years, he did not receive delegations arriving at his headquarters known as the Muqata in the West Bank city of Ramallah for his holiday blessings.
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...Faster, please.
Mike
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A face only a mother camel 'might' love..
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That photo in the original post....he already looks like death warmed over.
Ah say, ah say, boih, yuh look lahk two miles o' rough road!
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That's his Yassin look.
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ugh! What's that smell?
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Arafatâs health declines again
Too bad the Israelis can't be of more assistance in this particular case. Israel most richly deserves the satisfaction of blowing Arafat's terrorist carcass straight to hell. No amount of slow torture or prolonged suffering could ever compensate for the wanton violence and bilious hatred that Arafat has spread throughout his all too lengthy lifetime. The only forewarning he deserves is to get a brief glimpse of the missile launch that finally parks him for his dirt nap. This maggot cannot die soon enough or painfully enough.
Kofi to Chirac: "You really should get that checked out."
A senior UN official has warned that no solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will be found without international involvement. In a briefing to the Security Council, Kieran Prendergast spoke of "a palpable sense of drift and foreboding... towards chaos". Palpable? Drifting? Wotta wordsmythe, lol! More than palpable - and ongoing for almost 60 years, Mr UN Dood.
He urged both sides to abandon violence and engage in negotiation and he warned that there would be no peaceful agreement if both sides were left to themselves. It only takes one side to make a hash of everything you bubble-boys spout. And "they" will never stop until one side, or the other, no longer exists. Put that in your pipe and puff it.
Since the start of the latest intifada, or uprising, in September 2000, some 3,839 Palestinians and 979 Israelis had been killed, said Mr Prendergast, the UN Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs. And, if I may be so bold, who declared the intifada? Who wanted this insanity? Who would've been held accountable for their failure to achieve any of their required milestones under any of the various accords and plans - and lose control of the the money-train - so they sabotaged the best chance they ever had with the intifada?
And an estimated 36,000 Palestinians and 6,297 Israelis had been wounded. Any guess why the Israelis figures are precise - and the Paleo numbers are phantastic phake phantasy?
These "staggering" figures, he said, demanded action. "Are we going to go on like this? Is there not a better way?" he asked. Yes and Yes. But you and your Thugs and Crooks Inc. organization wouldn't entertain an actual solution.
Neither side, he said, was fulfilling its obligations under the international peace plan known as the road map. Oh, really? How cunning of you to notice. News Flash: It's DEAD. The "Road Map" was wadded up and tossed away years ago, you dim-witted apologist. It's DEAD. Just like the UN.
...more...
Drifting toward chaos... Where do they find these people?
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I think the situation is a little bit closer to the old Far Side cartoon where the Crisis Clinic floats down the river towards the waterfall while its top floors are engulfed in flames...
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Wed night we drove past a building that my wife pointed out said "Crisis Pregnancy Center" I said dear it's an abortion clinic. She said "OH! Thats why they have an armed guard out front."
When Israel has a fence up perhaps these stupid Paleos will get their heads out of their ass. Well one can hope. The UN help? Not likely.
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I think the Middle East has been drifting toward Chaos for way to long. It's time to pass Chaos and go straight to Hell.
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For once in history, not even the UN can be held responsible for the perpetual havoc being wrought in the Middle East. This cesspit of misery is so exclusively of Arab manufacture as to defy even the remotest attempts at laying blame elsewhere. So long as genocide, violent jihad, theocracy and intolerance reign supreme, all of the Middle East will continue to be a hellhole of human misery. No amount of nuanced discussion or political prestidigitation can ever mask the naked outright evil that Islam has spawned. And it will remain so until all Moslems firmly renouce their dreams of global domination or are simply obliterated, every single one, by a world grown long-tired of their psychotic atrocities.
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I like my coffee strong, Zen. That's pretty damned strong stuff you're serving. Melike. The truth is a bitch, sometimes, but it's obvious that the vast majority of the grief present in the ME and elsewhere, particularly where Islam exists or is trying to achieve dominanace, is due to Islam's tenets of hate and blame. Enough, already.
We (the West) have already met them more than halfway - fuck what their whining apologists say for pay or out of dhimmitude. The Israelis have done everything short of letting them win in their loudly declared wars of annihilation. Enough. Enough. Enough. They can either have their 1400 yr overdue reformation - or face the very modern swords of Free Men and Women - and cease to be.
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I like the Far Side cartoon where the two fish are standing on the table, looking at their fishbowl, which is on fire. One fish turns to the other and says, "Thank God we got out in time, but now we are doubly screwed!"
The ME has been the pit that it has been for a long time. It is tribal, it is kinship, it is haggling and deals. The big problem is that it is awash in money, and that money, the wealth of the industrialized world, is not being used very wisely for the benefit of all.
So we come to choices for our own security:
1. Drag them kicking and screaming into the modern world,
2. Take out the big troublemakers through the appropriate means,
3. Show them a better way,
4. Deny them their money by getting alternate sources of energy and let them rot on the vine.
5. Combinations of the above.
Nothing is easy, especially with "allies" stabbing you in the back. But one way or another, the ME must be cleaned up. One thing that we must do is to throw the monkey on the back to those that have been benefiting from the US military's heavy lifting all these years.
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They can either have their 1400 yr overdue reformation - or face the very modern swords of Free Men and Women - and cease to be.
Precisely, .com. The only amazing aspect of what you're saying is how this concept seems to go completely unnoticed by the majority of Muslims. With continued tacit or overt support of terrorism, all Islam is placing their collective neck in the noose. A few more atrocities will spring the trap door so they can twist gently in the breeze. I'll lay in some fine Champagne to open when that happens.
As to your post, AP. My only reply is "all of the above."
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I blame this on Mohammedanism, the Koran and incendiary preachers of Jihad. Today's Arab culture is the direct off spring of Koranic principles. Unfortunately for everyone on this planet, chaos, anarchism, nihilism, authoritarianism, all find happy homes in the Islam of today
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A firm grasp of the arm. Check.
Eyes closed. Check.
Lips slightly parted. Check.
Kiss me. Kiss me now Jacques. Kiss me like you and I are the only two firey hearts in this cold, cold world.
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.com, while your comments are usually good, they're exceptional today.
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Sadly, when they commit the atrocities - innocents die. It's readily apparent the world's not ready for anything pre-emptive - even the most serious advocates have a personal threshold that must be met. And of those who can't contemplate pre-emption, most seem only vaguely aware that there is a real and identifiable agent that has created a problem. Sigh. So more will fall under the knives and RPG's of these vermin. I can only hope that it isn't necessary for most to lose someone they know and love personally before they get it. As things are, many still blame everyone but the actual perpetrators - as shown in the Dhimmidick ad of the woman who lost her husband on 9/11 and, instead of blaming bin Laden and Islamists, meanders through an amazing maze of illogic to blame Bush. Clinton, I would give a partial, but Bush? Heavy sigh.
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Oops, Phitle Jearong2969 (pretty nifty, Fred!) is me.
Thx, RWV - I think there is a higher % of deeper-than-avg, quite serious comments, today - we're all being lifted bodily, I think. I need that, heh, and prolly more than most, sigh. I know I've read several today which have made me stop cold and really think. Lol, I wish I was known for that! :-)
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See? See what I mean, RWV? I try to go straight. I try to rise up to a higher plane of discourse. But they just drag me back down!
- Michael Corleone
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back to the cheap-shot snide remark family, amigo...LOL
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Lol! Guilty, as charged. RWV had me feeling like I was improving in my posts... becoming better than I am - thanks for the bitch-slap of reality, Frank, lol! ROFL!!!
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Ya know, folks, we are all brilliant. But we do so love the bars and the gutters. We try to walk the straight and narrow, but the gutter is FUN!
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UN bureaucracy makes a very good living by extorting money from industrialized countries for, supposed, humanitarian goals in third world. UNWRA is one of the best money-makers among these rackets. Now, itâs going to hell. Canât blame Kofi & Co for getting upset.
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We try to walk the straight and narrow, but the gutter is FUN!
As if!
However much we might like to occupy whatever hilarious aforementioned gutter, the terrorists have long ago stolen that from us. Gutters, sewers, waste processing plants ... terrorism be thy name.
An Australian BASE jumper injured in a failed jump from China's tallest skyscraper on October 5 has died in hospital here, his family said on Saturday. Roland Simpson, 34, sustained a fractured skull after his parachute lines became twisted during a jump from the 1,368 foot Jinmao Tower in the Shanghai financial district. Simpson, known to his friends as Flat Slim, died from his injuries in Canberra Hospital on Friday surrounded by family and friends, close relatives said in a message posted on the Australian BASE Association's website. Simpson, a forester, was among 38 BASE jumpers from 16 nations invited by the Shanghai Sports Bureau to take part in the jump from the tower. He was an experienced jumper who had made more then 1,200 jumps and had competed in many competitions. But he encountered problems with his parachute during the jump and landed on the roof of a building instead of the patch of lawn designated as a landing area.
I met a pro BASE jumper once. His biggest jump was off the Petronas Towers in Malaysia. I asked him if he enjoyed the trip, and he said, "No, it was too short. I had to fly back to Canada the next day so the docs could put the pieces of my ankle back together." Yipes.
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Actuarial tables. Odds. Old saying (of mine): If you fuck with the bull, eventually you'll get the horn. As long as you die doing what you love...
It's only a matter of time before a deadly flu pandemic strikes, an international vaccine expert has warned, saying that the world is ill-prepared to cope with a major outbreak of the disease - possibly because the manufacture of vaccines is governed by profit. "We are talking about a killer influenza that would kill probably tens of millions of people," John D. Clemens, director of the International Vaccine Institute, said Friday. "We're not talking about if, we're talking about when."
The United States is suffering a shortage of flu vaccines after a British supplier, Chiron Corp., was barred from shipping between 46 million and 48 million doses to the nation because of contamination at its plant. "The current shortage of vaccine in the United States can be attributed to reliance on too few producers," Clemens said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press. "Globally, in terms of vaccine development and production that could respond quickly to a killer influenza pandemic, we're inadequately prepared."
Clemens - whose institute has been helping to introduce new vaccines against diarrhea infections, bacterial meningitis and mosquito-born viral diseases for developing nations since 1999 - warned that similar supply disruptions could hit vaccines against other pandemics. "Something like 80 percent of the world's measles vaccines come from one company in India," Clemens said. "If that company had a problem like Chiron had, it would be a disaster."
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So we'll all wear face masks, and wash our hands a lot. With such basic precautions, I don't see the First World nations reaching epidemic conditions.
As for the rest of the world, unfortunately they will suffer as they always have. But then, they wouldn't have been able to afford to vaccinate their citizens anyway. On the other hand, except for those suffering from AIDS or war-induced famine, the world population overall is healthier, therefore more resistant, than ever in the history of the species.
I suspect there will be a quick die-off of the most succeptible as the disease travels around the globe, and then a few clusters of cases, much like the SARS epidemic.
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This Mr Clemens, from the IVV in Seoul, is being rather disingenuous.
If he's talking about a flu pandemic, he's referring to something on the scale of the "Spanish Flu" (link1 / link2 / link3 / link4) - and there won't be a single dose of vaccine available - it will have to be custom engineered after it appears. By phreakin' definition to become pandemic it'll be highly virulent, highly contagious and, in a very short timespan, killing many - almost everywhere. It will be something we are unprepared for - because we can't be - there is no way to know precisely what gene-jumping has occurred until it's loose, killing people, recognized and correctly diagnosed, sampled, and a vaccine is reverse-engineered. That takes time, luck, and smarts, not stupid statements.
What a scare-mongering dickhead. Must want some grant money (big surprise).
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.com is absolutely right. The odds of being prepared to deal with a pandemic are miniscule. Flu shots are a crapshoot anyway. The white coats get together and GUESS what three of the innumerable strains of flu will be the problem that year and make a blended vaccine to cover them. If they guess right, there is some protection; if, as is likely, they guess wrong, the flu shot is worthless.
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"...possibly because the manufacture of vaccines is governed by profit..."
.com is right on the money. It's not about saving lives -- it's about the vaccine research establishment getting more routine government handouts instead of having to justify their existence to the shareholders -- which they probably can't. This is like trying to justify NASA funding on the basis that someday it may save us from an asteroid hit.
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Read the awesome non-fiction book, The Coming Plague, now 10 yrs old but still spot-on and available used and cheap, now - as low as $6 on amazon - and get the shit scared out of yourself, heh. I read this book when it was brand-new in hardback. Never saw things the same again, afterwards. I had a Singapore Air stew beside me on an overnight Pacific flight for hours reading along - gasping every few minutes and asking - did that really happen? I was so deep into it I didn't even try to hit on her.
When the next influenza bad boy shows up, I'll be one of the canaries - gone in the first wave. You guys get to pick up the pieces.
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note that the flu vaccine comes from eggs and as noted above, is geared for certain strains. Impossible to stock ahead for a Superflu
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After the strain has been determined, how long is the manufacturing process before the bottles are ready to ship? Anybody know out there?
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Long enough that Important People and medical first responders will scarf up all the doses, leaving very little for the general population until the worst is over. I still hold by my prediction above, though. The world is very different now than it was in 1918 (especially since the epidemiologists now seem to believe that the Spanish Flu pandemic actually started in about 1916 in the English army camps -- they kept their food animals penned up not too far from the hospitals. And the men were so very fond of pork, duck and chicken.)
Oh, no! They got Jean-Francois!... Errr... No. It was somebody else...
Intelligence agents have identified the first French national known to have been killed fighting with the insurgency against US forces in Iraq, officials said Friday. The 19-year-old, named as Redouane El Hakim, is believed to have travelled to Iraq via Syria at the start of the year and been killed in a US bombardment on Fallujah in July.
You're welcome, Jacques!
Officials close to the case, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Hakim was one of several French citizens of Muslim background who have gone to Iraq to fight along insurgents there. "It's difficult to estimate their number, but there mustn't be more than around 10 or so," one official said. "There is no organised network, it's more thrown together." According to Le Figaro newspaper, intelligence agents know of two other Frenchmen in Fallujah at the moment.
That'd be Jean-Pierre and Jean-Claude, no doubt...
Hakim, who was of Tunisian origin, had lived in the Paris region and was accompanied by his brother Boubakeur, 21, the officials said. But Boubakeur was detained by the Syrian authorities and remains in custody there. Hakim was buried in Iraq, one source said, adding that the exact date of his death was not known. He and his brothers were known to frequent a radical Islamic group that was investigated earlier this year in the western Paris suburb of Levallois-Perret. The French sources said the French militants heading to Iraq appeared to be entering through Syria. Other Muslims looking to join the jihad, or holy war, against the US-led forces "make it to Iraq via Britain then Saudi Arabia on the pretext of making a pilgrimage, and then Syria before entering Iraq," one official said.
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Drop the late Redouane's shoes over Paris.
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Three Muslim Filipinos acting on orders from the Jemaah Islamiyah Southeast Asian terror network have confessed to plotting a bomb attack on the US embassy in the Philippines, the military said Thursday. The three suspects, Abdul Manap Mentang, his girlfriend, Monawara Usop and Mursid Mubpon, were arrested in Manila over October 6-7 and confessed under interrogation, military spokesman Lieutenant General Edilberto Adan said. They told investigators they were ordered to scout out the US embassy in Manila last month in preparation for another bombing, Adan said in a statement. "Last September 23, Mentang, his lover live-in partner Monawara Usop, and Mubpon conducted casing operations on the US embassy," Adan said. "Mubpon was tasked to design a bomb triggering mechanism utilising a cellular phone in connection with their plan to bomb the said embassy."
No further evidence against the three was given. The three also confessed to bombing the airport and the wharf at the southern Philippines city of Davao last year, Adan said, also after receiving orders from JI. Mentang told investigators he is a member of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), a local Muslim separatist group, and that he assembled the bombs used in the Davao attacks, Adan said. Mentang also said he was trained by a senior Jemaah Islamiyah leader and bomb maker, an Indonesian identified as Zulkifli, who ordered the bombings in Davao. Adan also charged that an Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah member, Abdul Jabidi, had supplied the explosives used in the Davao attacks as well as three other bombing elsewhere on the southern island of Mindanao between 2002 and 2004.
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Mentang living in sin ith his girlfriend? I guess the Allah's rules don't apply to the most holy of Allah's children, just to the little folks. Some muslim pigs are more equal than others. I hope Mentang did the honorable thing and threw acid on that jezebel's face.
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The Black Watch is being deployed as part of a US Marine expeditionary unit to take "decisive action" against insurgents in Iraq, Chief of the Defence Staff General Sir Michael Walker has revealed. General Walker stressed the 850-strong battle group, whose deployment was announced yesterday by Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon, would retain their own rules of engagement. But he said they would be under the "tactical command" of the relevant American corps commander.
General Walker also repeated the Government's promise that the Black Watch would be home by Christmas, saying that, even if they needed replacing in Iraq, those resources already existed within the Multi National Force. "This is all about capabilities not numbers," General Walker told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme. "The Multi National Force corps commander wants to redeploy his troops within his corps, including our battle group in concert with them on behalf of the Iraqi government.
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what is the "black watch"? Can anyopne explain this too me?
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Well it used to be a Scottish regiment you didn't want to screw with in the old days. Not sure about now. I think it might be a major employment project in Scottland anymore. If they are being deployed with teh Marines I think that tells ya something.
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The origin of this regiment was the raising in 1725 of six independent companies of highlanders from clans which had remained loyal to King George I during the Jacobite rebellion of 1715, with the task of keeping peace and order in the highlands. Because of their job of âwatchingâ and the dark colour of the tartan they wore, they became known as The Black Watch.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A2780147
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They play a mean sheep bladder.
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When my brother (Silentbrick) and I visited Edinburough Castle and saw the Black Watch museum/chapel in the late 80s, the guide made the amusing observation that the Black Watch had only lost their battle flags twice in their history, and that if we wanted to see them they were hanging at West Point in the US.
More sobering was the small chapel with a large book that contained the names of those members of the regiment who had been lost in action through the centuries.
In 1997 my wife and I saw the Black Watch's band and drum corp in concert on their stop here in Austin, Tx. Very, very cool. What was really amusing were a couple of sword dancers (they danced with and over swords) who we saw chatting it up with some girls after the concert who had their outer shirts/uniforms off. Their T-shirts underneath had various pro-Scotland/anti-England slogans on them.
If you ever see the Black Watch band advertised in your area, it's worth buying a ticket. Enjoyable evening.
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KABUL (Reuters) - As counting in Afghanistan's presidential election neared its end, a dip in incumbent Hamid Karzai's lead has put more onus on an independent panel to decide if voting irregularities could have upset the result.
Election officials hope the panel that includes a Canadian diplomat and election experts from Britain and Sweden will have its report ready by midweek, shortly after the counting ends. The panel had called for a meeting on Saturday afternoon with candidates. But many remain sceptical about the process. "We do not count on the panel... It is not the solution to our claims," said Ahmad Shah Ahmadzai, who was eighth in a field of 18.
Another candidate, destined to be an also-ran, shared the same reservations. "From our side, we will raise and discuss the issue of the violations and frauds, during the meeting with the panel. I doubted from the very beginning that the panel has any power to solve the problems," Abdul Hafiz Mansoor told Reuters.
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Three 10 point pimp slaps is a row is enough. It is bad enough looking at Jon bon sKerry's ugly mug, but having Dean popping up too is just too much.
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To test your anti-terrorist skills click the link.
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THE furious row over Europe's new "anti-gay" commissioner has plunged the European Union into a full-blown crisis with MEPs threatening to reject the entire commission unless he is fired. Incoming commission president Jose Manuel Barroso yesterday defied calls to ditch his chosen justice commissioner, the Italian Rocco Buttiglione, for his views on homosexuality and marriage. His decision to stand by Mr Buttiglione enraged political leaders wielding a majority of votes in the European Parliament. They have pledged to veto Mr Barroso's entire commission when it is put to the vote next week. Mr Buttiglione, a conservative Catholic and friend of the Pope, is due to be given responsibility for the EU's anti-discrimination policies. But he caused outrage by describing homosexuality as a "sin", suggesting women should spend more time having babies and less time working, and that single mothers "weren't very good".
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into a full-blown crisis
Does any editor read this stuff before it goes out on the wire?
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What is telling I think is that homosexual marriage is only legal in the Netherlands I believe. It's not even an issue in the rest of Europe that is open for debate. The only persons who are worked up are the MEPs and their parrots in the EU media.
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As a sidenote, however, the problem wasn't the guy's views about same-sex marriage so that's irrelevant one way or another -- when the article says "his views on homosexuality and marriage", it means his views on two different issues, not in connection with one another -- a) homosexuality b) marriage.
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Aris, the issue is how the elite of both the U.S. and the E.U. have attempted to make this perverted behavior "mainstream" and to make those defending centuries-old values the evil ones. Similar to how one must fight the Islamonuts we must also fight/defend against the destruction of institutions which have helped form the glue of civilization in the Judeo Christian West.
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Similar to how one must fight the Islamonuts we must also fight/defend against the destruction of institutions which have helped form the glue of civilization in the Judeo Christian West.
Sorry, but I can see no "similarity" whatsoever between the fight against a tyrannical murderous ideology that has killed and enslaved millions upon millions of people worldwide, and the so-called fight against the legitimization of homosexual behaviour or same-sex marriage.
The still expanding virtues of the "West" are what have *allowed* tolerance towards homosexuality and the beginnings of instituting same-sex marriage, a tolerance which isn't yet found in either the Islamic countries nor the Third World, nor other tyrannical regimes.
Islamofascists want to drag society back, gay-rights supporters want to push society forwards.
So, even if Conservative christians oppose both, wanting to remain where they are instead, don't even pretend that their reaction to both impulses is the same battle.
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If there ever was a EU "scandal", this is one I like. It would be perfect if the EU parliment rejected Barroso's commission. This would strengthen the power of the parliament which is democratically elected, while the commission members who hold most of the power are appointed.
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Aris: "Islamofascists want to drag society back, gay-rights supporters want to push society forwards."
I think that in this case there are more than just two directions. Ultra-liberal is not the only alternative to ultra-conservative.
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Tom> "I think that in this case there are more than just two directions." Perhaps. Still, let's atleast agree that there's more than *one* direction. And that pro-gay rights people aren't driving towards where the Islamofascists want to go.
Porter Goss' initial moves as CIA director appear to herald a post-election purge at the already troubled spy agency, according to current and former top U.S. intelligence officials. Goss, a former Republican congressman, has put at least four former Capitol Hill Republican staffers into top positions in his CIA office and has given them broad authority to make personnel and restructuring decisions, the current and former intelligence officials said. One of the aides, whose identity Knight Ridder is not disclosing because he served under cover, has been "going around telling people they are to fire 80 to 90 people" in the Directorate of Operations, the CIA's covert arm, according to a former official. His account was repeated by several knowledgeable current and former officials who maintain close ties to the agency.
Tensions between an incoming CIA director and the agency's veterans, particularly in the Directorate of Operations, are common, as they are in any large institution resistant to change. Most observers agree the CIA, along with the rest of the U.S. intelligence community, is in need of reform. A Senate Intelligence Committee report issued in July found the CIA's prewar assessment that Iraq had hidden weapons of mass destruction programs was exaggerated, lacked evidence and was driven by "group think." The Directorate of Operations, which oversees clandestine intelligence collection, has been criticized in particular for failing to recruit human spies in Iraq who might have given an accurate picture of Saddam Hussein's regime and WMD programs.
But the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said they were concerned by the partisan affiliation of Goss' team. "If he has brought strongly partisan staff with him - and he has - that seems to call (Goss's pledge) into question," said another top official, who recently left the CIA. A CIA spokesman, who asked to remain unnamed, said Goss has made no decisions on restructuring. "We are not at the structural phase yet," the spokesman said. "These people ought to be given a little time. It's been less than a month since he's (Goss) been sworn in. That goes for some of the people he has brought with him."
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I wonder how much of this CIA-White House feud is due to Clinton-era appointments and is a simple Democrat-Republican feud. Then too, a lot of government employees are Democrats simply because the Democrats are the party of government.
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V,
At least the parts of the gov I am familiar with, the security departments tend Republican while the socal welfare folks tend Democrat. The CIA may be different and has a reputation for being politicized. Didn't the CIA recruit heavily from NE Ivy League schools? And couldn't this early indoctrination be the basis for their political leanings?
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When I was an Ivy League student (Penn, class of '74), I do remember certain of my classmates being recruited.
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All I can say is...
About
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Some of it is Demo partisan ship, much of it is NE Snobbishness and "empire building" by execs who never did field duty nor analysis, and were "managers" from the late 1980's under Bush-I onward (got worse under Clinton, many things were polticised and got that jsutified because "the cold war is over").
LITTLE known US actor Brandon Routh has been chosen to don the cloak of the "man of steel" in a Hollywood revival of Superman that will be filmed in Australia. The 25-year-old was signed to star in the reincarnation of Superman, due to hit screens in 2006, following an exhaustive search for an actor to fill the role made famous by Christopher Reeve, who died earlier this month. Hollywood's latest heartthrob superhero was picked after a hunt for a lead actor that spanned the United States, Britain, Canada and Australia. The Warner Bros movie will be directed by Bryan Singer, who also made the hit comicbook hero X-Men movies, and will begin shooting in Australia early next year, a studio source said. The superhero will be reborn in the movie that will tell of his arrival as a baby after his father, Jor-El from the planet Krypton, sends his son to Earth to escape an advancing army of baddies.
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Lol! At first I thought this was a dupe of the story above - and someone was in snarky overdrive with the title, heh.
I hope he keeps his Ozzie accent and has fun with it. It'll make it more interesting - trying to figure out WTF he's saying.
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..I know a new Superman movie has been in the works for a long time, but I predict a bad end for this one because of Chris Reeve's recent passing. No one is going to be able to picture anyone else except Reeve in the part from here on in.
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The media have hammered President George W. Bush on the employment issue despite 13 straight months of positive job creation and other good economic news. The October 8, 2004 jobs report was the latest evidence that they treat Bush far more critically than they treated President Bill Clinton on the same issue â sometimes even for the same results. Much much more at the link. All very interesting if not at all surprising.
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MUSLIM militants in Indonesia's capital today vandalised a cafe in an area popular with foreigners because it was serving beer during the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan. Around 300 members of the Islamic Defenders Front ordered customers at the Star Deli in south Jakarta to leave, before smashing the building's windows and doors, said Alawi Usman, a spokesman for the group. "We are against immorality," he said. "The guys saw the beer on the table and what happened, happened. We are doing this for the future of the country's youth." No-one was injured in the attack, which police did nothing to stop, Usman said.
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Sounds like France, same time next year.
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During daylight hours? Then this makes perfect sense - to a Mooselimb. Sheesh. Is Indo a buncha amateurs at this IslamoRamaDamaDingDong stuff?
For your non-Mooslimbs and "bad" Mooselimbs, what you're supposed to do during daylight hours is:
1) Let people in the back door. Using the front door is like rubbing their noses in it. We're eating and drinking. You're a dumbass Mooselimb and you're starving. Tough shit, right? No, wrong. That's like a bad move, K? When the mutawa get on the case, not even the local cops will say diddley-squat. So be cool.
2) Avoid cooking shit that they can smell 5 blocks away, like barbeque over hickory or mesquite and choice beef slathered with secret sauces that make Mooselimb mouths water. I know it's a joy beyond words, but it's really hard on the guys fasting til sunset. Pisses 'em off. Seriously.
3) Draw all the curtains and seat people at interior tables so the pitiful Mooselimbs languishing on the sidewalk outside can't see all that ice cold beer and hear the laughter and clinking of cutlery as you dine on fine foods while they starve and blame the Jooos for their discomfort.
4) When your non-Mooselimb customers have sated themselves and paid the bill, adding a nice tip for the privilege of fucking Ramadam's rules, they should discreetly exit by the back door in ones and twos - and avoid coming around the corner and issuing large belches which, again, piss off the Mooselimbs - hell, during the daylight hours of Ramafuckingdan what doesn't piss off the Mooselimbs?
5) And remember, the Ramafuckingdan restrictions are: no eating, drinking, smoking, or public fornication during daylight hours. So put out your stogies and dismount before going back out in public.
There, that oughtta keep our Indo friends from such silly mistakes during the remainder of Ramafuckingdan. Rookies.
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Which Paris cafes will be closed this month for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?
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raptor - In a word, yes, but I thought it might be interesting to those who've not experienced the joys of Ramadan in a country under the thumb of Official Islam to see what we actually DID do. What I posted above is common sense and true in practice. Most restaurants are closed during Ramadan. Everyone "knows" who's open and is quickly taught the rules of the game.
Lemme tell you, when you're sitting in your car in the parking lot, sneaking a smoke and a cup o' joe from your Thermos, and you look around and see smoke rising from the slightly-opened windows of 3 or 4 other cars scattered around the lot, and then you see some asshat muttawa roaming the parking lot looking for you and all the smoke stops cuz the windows go up, it stops being funny and gives you just the slightest hint of what "police state" means. Definitely un-funny. Fuck Ramadan.
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Sorry if I sound melodramatic, bro - it's just that it's all true and it was a bitch of a month to get through. I survived 5 of the mofo's - and they sucked like an F5. I could even say they're seared, seared! -- nah, I won't go there, heh. Plz forgive my lack of humor on this topic!
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Lol! Hmmmm. I dunno, am I doing it right? I always thought seething was more of a feeling thingy than a factual thingy. Y'know, reality isn't just a set of conditions I have to deal with (facts), it's how I feel about, um, y'know, like uh, everything. Heh. Those things I posted were actual facts, so I think I'm still doing it wrong, I bet. I've always been wedded to facts (So that was the problem!) - so I'm afraid I'll prolly need seething training.
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"Alcohol, the cause of and solution to all mankind's problems."
- Homer Simpson -
Does anyone else get the feeling that Muslims are born with their panties in a wad? However poor in form it is to generalize, I'm getting absolutely f&%king sick of how just about anything remotely related to pleasurable human existence is a dire offense to all Islam.
The only way they'll get a bottle of beer out of my hand is when I shove the empty up their whiny ass. And you can be confident that I'll make sure to be drinking out of a 40 ouncer when it happens.
Pakistani Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told VOA that terror suspect Abdul-Rahman, arrested this week, had been a messenger for the al-Qaida network.
So he was a runner...
"We have arrested Abdul-Rahman, who was dealing with the communications for al-Qaida. This man, we have arrested from Peshawar," Mr. Ahmed says. The arrest of alleged al-Qaida communications operative Mohammed Naem Noor Khan earlier this year reportedly led authorities to several other key al-Qaida figures. But Mr. Ahmed said it is unclear whether Abdul-Rahman's capture would lead to other fugitive suspects.
He's probably got only a single route, so he'll know his controller and anywhere from a couple to a half dozen operatives. Other than revealing his little piece of the organization chart, he probably doesn't have any useful information...
The news comes as Pakistan's military continues operations against alleged foreign terrorists in its semi-autonomous South Waziristan tribal agency. Military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan says five soldiers and an unknown number of suspected militants were killed in fighting Wednesday at the Waziri town of Spinkai Raghzai. Pakistani political commentator Ayaz Amir says the general public is now questioning whether the campaign is in the country's best interest. "Rightly or wrongly, whatever is being done over there is being seen as coming because of American pressure. And that is why there is not much public support for all this," Mr. Amir says.
You either run your country or you don't. If you don't, you've got no bitch when somebody else comes in and cleans out the corners that have started to stink. They can cooperate with the Americans or not, but if they don't, they've got the example of the Taliban right next door. Actually, they've got it in exactly the area that's being thumped.
But he says the government believes flushing militants out of tribal areas is necessary for domestic security and not meant as a diplomatic gesture to the United States.
That's about what I just said, with a dollop of national pride tossed in.
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"Ja, welcome to the new Nordic Division of Al-Qaeda Global Holdings. We are Ãpen for Business. And Al-Qaeda means business."
Norway has joined 60 other countries where the terrorist al-Qaida network has established a foothold, says the International Institute for Strategic Studies. It said Norway's agreement to send troops to Iraq for "humanitarian" work after the invasion also placed the country on al-Qaida's list of targets, Aftenposten reported Thursday. The man believed to be the terror group's deputy leader, Abu Musab al-Zarkawi, has twice mentioned Norway as a probable terror target.
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I think they mean Ayman al Zawahiri.
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It can't be true...What could Al-Qaeda possibly want in that cold 'icelandic' country? There are not even, any blacks up there???
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I hope they settle in the North of Norway. In a few years Ramadan will be in July. A whole month where there is enough light to distinguish a
white thread from a black one.
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Actually there is no need to go so far to the North. In July 2000 I spent a week in Estonia. At anytime during the night there is enough light to read.
Via Bros. Judd again! ...The Hawai'i Poll, taken among 600 likely voters statewide between Oct. 13 and Monday, had Bush at 43.3 percent and Kerry at 42.6 percent. The margin of error was 4 percentage points. [...] Nearly a third of the people who plan to vote for Bush described themselves as Democrats while only 5 percent of Republicans say they will vote for Kerry. "I'm a Democrat but I strongly support what President Bush is doing," said Jun Elegino, a nursing student at Hawai'i Pacific University who serves in the Army National Guard. "He's my commander in chief...."
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Keep Teresa foaming at the mouth, as well as the rest of the dems. keep up the voter fraud stories, as well as the vandalism and burglaries of Republican campaign offices, and the dems will lose Hawai'i.
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I'm volunteering to help the GOP get out the vote in Hawaii. Bags packed. Ready to go. They haven't called back with the ticket/reservation....
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My bird does not have the range, Frank. We will get out about 800 miles, then it's time to swim, heh heh.
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I saw a scenario (unlikely, but not implausible) in which Hawaii would decide the winner. I think Kerry got Ohio and Florida, while Bush got Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Mexico. Plus or minus a state.
Think of all the lawyers that went to Florida in November/December 2000. How many would go to Hawaii?
We need a way for Alaska or Maine to be the deciding state.
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Two points, first 600 likely voters is a small sample. Second, if Kerry declares victory early as planning voter turnout in the west will be really low. Its up to Republicans to push for people to go to the polls no matter what, for local elections if nothing else.
Personally I think we're looking at a landslide. I think the number of Democrats willing to admit they'll vote for Bush is a lot lower than the number that really intend to vote for Bush, a fact that screws the polls all over the place.
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Now will you believe me when I say California is still in play. There is a HUGE concerted effort by Republicans to get out the vote. It's going to be close if in this State. A ton of voters are voting Absentee and they are mostly Republicans.
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"The United States should not abstain from the one fight that is crucial for the future of mankind."
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Environmentalists have hailed the Russian parliament's ratification of the Kyoto Protocol on climate change as a huge step forward. Russia's lower house, the State Duma, voted 334-73 to approve the treaty, meaning enough nations have signed up to bring it officially into force. "We'll toast the Duma with vodka tonight," a Greenpeace activist said.
However Washington said it still does not intend to adopt the pact, which calls for cuts in greenhouse gases. "We do not believe that the Kyoto Protocol is something that is realistic for the United States and we have no intention of signing or ratifying it," State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said. ...more...
Drunk on imaginary power and vodka, the Greenies toast Tsar Putty and practice their fairy dances in the twilight. Putty merely smiles his death's-head grin and picks everyone's pocket. Meanwhile, the evil Americans shake their heads and heave a sigh.
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Within 90 days of Russia's ratification, Kyoto signatories must start making cuts that will reduce emissions...
Other than make empassioned speeches, is anyone actually doing anything to reduce emmissions? You know, stuff like cutting back on industrial output, reducing fuel use or shutting down industries? Didn't think so. Kyoto - The Feel Good Treaty of the Year.
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NZ is. They're fining the hell out of their farmers when their sheep and cattle emit nasty gaseous methane. It's a fucking brilliant plan. The entire country's economy ought to be in the shitter within a coupla years.
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Cutting emissions? France and Germany will have no problem seeing as ther industry is all headed for China and there real economic growth is negative.
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Does each NZ sheep have methane monitors on it's derriere? How else is the gov going to know much to tax?
All I see Kyoto doing is:
1. Shoveling EU money into FSU graft.
2. Shifting industry to non-Kyoto counties.
3. Speeding up adoption of nuclear power.
I wonder what enviromentalists consider the greater evil, carbon dioxide or nuclear waste?
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I'm still trying to figure out how all those pre-industrial nomadic humans 20,000 years ago melted the ice sheets covering Europe and North America, raising the oceans over 300 feet.
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I'm still trying to figure out how all those pre-industrial nomadic humans 20,000 years ago melted the ice sheets covering Europe and North America, raising the oceans over 300 feet.
Figure no more! Archaeologists found that the melting of the ice sheet coincided with the first human consumption of beans. This massively raised the emission of greenhouse gasses.
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JFM / Don - Lol! You guys nailed it, methinks! When those pesky humans began settling down, giving up their evil hunter-gatherer ways, and beginning their evil more systematic rape and torture of poor GAIA, well - it was all downhill from there, heh. We're doomed! Doomed, I tell ya!
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I had forgotten about the NZ Fart Tax. Here is the story of one inventive Kiwi's attempt to bring the full power of the Scientific Method to bear on the problem. From Silent Running.
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.com----ROTFLMAO! The crowd around the banner looks a bit less than enthusiastic.
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AP - Heh - I wondered if anyone was ever gonna check the link. One of my favorite LLL / GAIA / ELF / ELP / Total Idiot pix, lol! I swap it off as my desktop, now & then. Makes me feel really sane!
Cambodia needs international help in erecting defences against terrorism or it could become a safe haven for al Qaeda and similar groups, Chile's U.N. ambassador has warned. "Without that, they will become a breeding ground for terrorism," Heraldo Munoz, the chairman of a Security Council committee that monitors al Qaeda and related organizations, said on Friday after an official visit to Cambodia. The southeast Asian nation has to date adopted no counter-terrorism legislation, set up no financial intelligence unit and signed just four of the 12 international conventions against terrorism and ratified none of them, Munoz said. "Therefore, there is reason for concern, particularly since Cambodia in the south does have a Muslim community that has been discriminated against and there has been violence," he said.
How do you even tell if you've been discriminated against in Cambodia?
A visit to Cambodia by an Indonesian-born preacher named Hambali was another sign the country could become a haven for militants hoping to stage attacks against domestic targets as well as other countries, Munoz said. Hambali, whom authorities believe was Osama bin Laden's key link to Southeast Asia, has been in U.S. custody since his arrest in Thailand last year. He "spent some time in Cambodia. He was not vacationing there, clearly," Munoz said. Cambodia was aware of its need to act but lacked the resources, including international law experts and translators to convert documents into the local language, the envoy said. "With no cooperation, there will be no progress against terrorism," Munoz said. "Otherwise, we will see terrorist actions in these countries. We are very certain of that."
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Two weeks after coordinated bombings at several Red Sea resorts in Egypt, Israeli and Egyptian investigators have yet to assemble a clear picture of how the attacks occurred or identify the people or group behind them, according to officials who described a frustrating shortage of evidence, the same problem that plagued other major terrorism inquiries in the early stages.
The Oct. 7 attacks along the Sinai Peninsula's rugged east coast killed 34 people, many of them Israeli tourists in the midst of a long holiday weekend. In the past two weeks, investigators from Egypt and Israel have pored over evidence from three crime scenes. Egyptian officials have questioned dozens of tribesmen from the remote desert region, which provided the attackers with vulnerable targets and a seemingly traceless escape.
Drawing on fragments of evidence and traits the case appears to share with large attacks in Africa and Europe since May 2003, Egyptian and Israeli investigators say they believe the Sinai bombings were carried out by Egyptians who belong to a previously unknown cell inspired by the global ambitions of al Qaeda and guided by experienced foreign militants. Those initial conclusions fit a pattern that emerged from investigations into bombings in Madrid, Istanbul and Casablanca, Morocco, but only after months of following leads that at various turns pointed to different organizations with vastly different motives. As in those cases, the first phase of the Sinai inquiry highlights how difficult investigating terrorism has become at a time when rising violence in the Middle East is moving scores of anonymous young men to take up arms against the United States and allied governments. "This is an octopus with al Qaeda at its heart," Col. Zohar Alafi, deputy director of the Israeli military's intelligence research division, said last week during a hearing of the Israeli parliament's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. "It is composed of independent cells whose common denominator is hatred of Jews and Christians and the desire to topple 'heretic regimes' that cooperate with the United States and Israel."
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Mossad was responsible. Only the Jews could cover their tracks so completely.
/Cairo intellectual
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Election officials are beefing up security and taking other precautions at many of the nation's 200,000 polling places amid continuing concern that al-Qaida terrorists are intent on disrupting the U.S. political process. Some officials are increasing police patrols and assigning plainclothes officers to monitor voting sites on Election Day. Others are taking steps to secure ballot boxes, set up emergency communications systems and locate backup polling places in the event of an attack. "We have to prepare for the worst situation," said Brenda Fisher, elections director for Anne Arundel County in Maryland.
FBI and Homeland Security Department officials stress that a steady stream of intelligence indicating the threat of an election-year threat is general in nature, with no specific indications that terrorists might strike polling places. But elections officials say they can't discount the possibility that al-Qaida might be attracted to long lines of voters to make a violent statement against democracy.
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Long lines of voters? Not most places. The turnout is always pathetic given the number of eligible voters.
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Sock, I already voted. Some states allow it. For this election the turnout is expected to be larger then the normal low numbers. Since many people are taking advantage of 'early voting' it could reduce long lines in some key urban areas on November 2nd.
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And then the extra police presence will be assailed by the LLL as "voter intimidation."
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My ballot is waiting for me to open fill out and resend. Hopefully if will get counted this time. There was some kind of rumored scandal in 2002 that kept my absentee ballot and those of others from being counted.
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Sock, can you go in person if your state does the 'early voting' bit? Just to make sure your vote is counted properly, and NO paper ballot, if you know what I mean...
I feel this election in terms of Dems pulling all kinds voter fraud stunts will be the worst since the post Civil War era in the South. The Dems have had lots of practice.
Even if the presidental voter tally turns out being something like, 53% Bush, 47% Kerry, the power mad radical Dems will still scream & file countless law suits, demanding a full state by state recount, or worse, another election.
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SPD, I voted yesterday and for early voting I had to stand in line for 40 minutes. And the line didn't go down. Others seemed to keep coming in to take their place at the rear of the line to wait their turn. I didn't see anyone come in, survey the line and then decide to come back later or another day. No they weren't illegals, nor did they appear to be party turn outs. The very first day of early voting, a couple days ago, around 270 voted at the centralized location. This is in a low population county in New Mexico. Yeah, all counties in NM are low population, but this is something I haven't seen in 10 years of voting here. Something is happening.
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Announcing the extra security will decrease the likelihood of political idiots creating incidents. And then, the good guys will already be there should an incident occur. Win/win for everyone (except the police families, of course).
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Early voting sites here in Texas are reporting record voter turnout as well. I went to one at 4pm last wednesday and there may have been 75 - 100 people in line.
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Somebody want to explain to me how AQ could disrupt a significant portion of 200,000 polling places? Their better strategy would be another WTC-type spectacular about mid-day just to dusrupt everybody's schedules. Of course that might help give Bush four more years, in which case AQ has screwed themselves again.
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I don't know about the authorities, but I was thinking Democratic Underground types or AFL-CIO thugs would be more likely to attempt somethng.
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I have a gut feeling this election is not going to be as close as the pundits are predicting. I would not be suprised to see either Bush or kerry win by around 10% and the EC go 2 to 1. There's going to be a lot of people who normally don't vote voting this year. its just that it is too hard to get a handle on just how they'll go due to most of them being off of the radar screen
Two soldiers and three civilians were killed in clashes between security forces and militants in different parts of the South Waziristan tribal region on Friday. Unofficial reports said that two soldiers were killed when a remote-controlled bomb exploded near the Laddah Fort at Friday noon. Nine other soldiers received injuries in the incident and they were shifted to a military hospital in Wana. The area is inhabited by the Mahsud tribe. Residents said that soon after the bomb explosion the security forces started intense firing from the Laddah Fort. They said that a woman and her minor boy were killed when their cab came under fire in the area. Her four-year-old daughter also received injuries in the firing.
Army spokesman Maj-Gen Shaukat Sultan told Dawn by telephone that only four soldiers were wounded in the bomb explosion. He said that the militants attacked a military convoy in Jandola in which a few soldiers received "minor injuries." According to reports, the situation at Spinkay Raghzay is also tense as heavy exchange of fire has continued between the security forces and the militants holed up in the mountainous area encircled by the army troops for the last four days. Residents said that an artillery shell hit the residence of Haji Mian Wali Khan, killing his 22-year-old son Attaullah Khan whereas two of his close relatives received injuries. The injured have been identified as Mahmood Khan and a six-year-old boy Haneef Khan.
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ShintoLDSMethodist Muslim militants in Indonesia's capital today vandalised a cafe in an area popular with foreigners because it was serving beer during the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan.
Ethel, Fred needs the defibrillator...STAT!
Around 300 members of the Islamic Defenders Front ordered customers at the Star Deli in south Jakarta to leave, before smashing the building's windows and doors, said Alawi Usman, a spokesman for the group.
"This here establishment has been closed on account of health code violations. Off to mosque for all you slackers, or me and my posse here will afford you some personal health code violations. Capische?"
"We are against immorality," he said. "The guys saw the beer on the table and what happened, happened. We are doing this for the future of the country's youth."
Yasss, of course. It's For The Children (TM).
The Islamic Defenders Front was formed in 2000. It has a history of vandalising entertainment centres during Ramadan. Many analysts say that extorting money from frightened bar owners is its primary motive, rather than defending Islamic principles.
Just think of it as an excise tax.
No-one was injured in the attack, which police did nothing to stop, Usman said. Police confirmed the raid occurred, but declined say why they did not try to prevent it.
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On Sept. 15, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III and John E. McLaughlin, then acting director of the CIA, brought a special note of concern to their daily briefing with President Bush. Fresh intelligence had arrived pointing to plans for a mass-casualty terrorist attack before Election Day, bolstering previous indications that such an assault was possible on U.S. soil, according to accounts of the briefing provided to Mueller's and McLaughlin's subordinates. What's more, intelligence officials told Bush, there was reason to believe that the plotters may already have arrived in the United States, according to the accounts. The new information led the FBI and other agencies across the government to launch a well-publicized campaign aimed at foiling potential plots before the elections, including hundreds of interviews in immigrant neighborhoods and aggressive surveillance of suspected terrorist sympathizers.
But five weeks after the effort began, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials say they have found no direct evidence of an election-related terrorist plot. Authorities also say that a key CIA source who had claimed knowledge of such plans has been discredited, casting doubt on one of the earliest pieces of evidence pointing to a possible attack.
Intelligence officials stress that they continue to receive reports indicating that al Qaeda and its allies would like to mount attacks in the United States close to the Nov. 2 elections, and that such reports have been streaming in since terrorists blew up commuter trains in Madrid days before Spanish elections in March. Yet after hundreds of interviews, scores of immigration arrests and other preventive measures, law enforcement officials say they have been unable to detect signs of an ongoing plot in the United States, nor have they identified specific targets, dates or methods that might be used in one.
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..Man I wish I'd never seen headlines like this - because if something happens, it'll be used as evidence of another 'intelligence failure'..
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No specific evidence of election terrorist plot
apparently they haven't been following the Democrat brownshirts. The enemy within
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It's a U.S. Homeland Security Department nightmare, and Honduras' most outspoken Cabinet member says it's happening: Al-Qaida operatives recruiting Central American gang members to carry out regional attacks and slip terrorists into the United States. Yet U.S. and Central American officials say they have found no evidence supporting Honduran Security Minister Oscar Alvarez's allegations. And human rights groups accuse Alvarez of trumping terrorism reports to justify his crackdown on gangs, who in response have adopted terror-style tactics such as beheadings - 20 so far - and threatened the government.
Romulo Emiliani, a Roman Catholic bishop working closely with gang members in the northern city of San Pedro Sula, called the reports "an attempt to distract the public while the government puts thousands of youths in jail." The U.S. government has long worried terrorists would tap into smuggling networks that move migrants and narcotics across Mexico's porous northern border and into the United States. To combat those fears, Mexico has worked with the United States to keep a close eye on drug and smuggling activity. It also has made it much harder to enter Mexican territory legally if a person comes from a country with terror ties. Alvarez, however, has stoked fears that terrorists are joining migrants crossing illegally into Mexico from Central America, then moving north.
A spokesman for Mexico's National Immigration Institute said officials have caught "a significant number" of people from the Middle East trying to sneak into the United States from Mexico, although he refused to release exact numbers. One smuggler was arrested recently for allegedly moving Iranians and Iraqis into the United States. There has been at least one confirmed report of a suspected terrorist in Central America. U.S. and Panamanian officials say Saudi native and alleged al-Qaida leader Adnan G. El Shukrijumah stayed in Panama for 10 days in April 2001, five months before the Sept. 11 attacks. There also are fears El Salvador could be hit by terrorists for supporting the U.S.-led mission in Iraq.
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Gentle readers, I can't vouch for the Honduran situation, but I've spent time reviewing a videotape made by Latin Americans (Brazilians, to be specific) of the military base I was stationed at here in the good old USA. To the untrained it would probably look like a tourist video, but the subject's constant muttering while filming about how much the tape's buyer better appreciate this, how much risk he's taking, how he could go to jail for this--all make it quite clear he knew what he was doing. To anyone who's ever done targeting, it was clear how he was directed to sweep from certain point to certain point, identify certain features, and close in on others. His was a recon mission, and he wouldn't have been caught if he hadn't have gotten lost on a side road. In the end we couldn't hold him, but we kept his tape, the police kept his car, and INS sent him back to Brazil. We never found out who tasked him, by what means, for how much.
Anyone can be paid to perform a mission for the Islamogangsters, even lily white Americans. That the Islamogangsters can tap into existing South American networks for a lot of functions is no surprise. Worse, the South American angle is the least funded portion of the GWOT, because it's been tarred as the Drug War. IF the Islamonazis are seriously attempting to mount another major attack, they could do worse than to come from our southrn front.
The left is unhinged if you didn't already know it. This is absolutely unreal. Good links to the melt down against the Swift Vets. While we are at it how about $50?
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here's the video - he lost his mind. I emailed MSNBC and asked them to remove him from his position
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That is an amazing clip. O'Donnell was insane. I've just sent emails to the MSNBC TV and Scarborough Country addresses giving them my opinion of his behavior.
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I saw a 'Rock the Vote' Special on MTV this morning and the left is definately coming unglued. They talked about the war on drugs and how Bush supports stiff laws and Kerry doesn't. They even had a drug dealer in prison that had a very sad story on how the 'Rich White College Kids' tricked him into selling 'too much' and thereby getting a longer sentence. His Mom and Dad also quoted as 'My son would nver sell that large amount of coke.' So I guess they were cool as long as he was small time drug dealer? These people need to be sterilized so they don't infect the rest of the population.
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Thanks .com,
So I take from the article that Pat Buchanan was the host and O'Donnell was there just to attack the guest O'Neill.
That just seems so wrong on so many levels.
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Oh - you gotta watch it - it's just amazing. You got the gist - but the punch is to see this so-called "journalist" literally have a meltdown.
I've only written an email to a news org once before, but this guy pushed my buttons, big time. O'Neill was classy, cool, and dignified. Polar opposites in behavior.
Asia burned 22.6 million barrels a day of oil last year, accounting for 29 percent of world consumption, according to BP Plc's Statistical Review of World Energy. Asia's consumption has risen 41 percent from a decade earlier, led by demand in China. ``Asian nations are, after all, the factories of the world,'' said Song Seng Wun, an economist at G.K. Goh Holdings Ltd. in Singapore. ``If the costs of production go up due to energy prices, then'' the region may be affected more than the rest of the world.
China last year surpassed Japan as the world's second- largest oil consumer after the U.S., because of a surging economy. Chinese oil use is expected to jump 15 percent to 6.3 million barrels a day this year, the International Energy Agency said. Based on China's 1997 consumption figures, a $10 a barrel increase in oil prices over a year will ``influence'' the country's consumer price index by 0.3 to 0.4 percentage points, Zheng Jingping, spokesman at National Bureau of Statistics in Beijing, said yesterday. China's 9.1 percent growth in the third quarter was faster than the 8.9 percent projected in a Bloomberg survey. (By the year 2050 China's population will reach 1.6 billion people. That's a lot of frozen Chinese dinners!)
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The main opposition party in Tunisia withdrew its 89 candidates in the forthcoming parliamentary elections, saying that the government prevented them from reaching their message to the voters.
Dumb move. It guarantees you'll be without any power after the election. Tunisia isn't Saddam-era Iraq.
One official in the progressive democratic party asked to be anonymous said that the candidates of the party withdrew in protest of the several obstacles placed by the government to prevent them from reaching the voters, including the confiscation of the final statement, adding that the decision will be announced today ( Friday) in a press conference held by the party leadership.
Plenty of non-traditional ways of getting your message out.
The progressive democratic party announced it will boycott the presidential elections, saying it fears that the elections which will be held on Sunday will open up the door before reviving the tradition of "life-long" presidency.
On Sunday, Tunisian voters will head to the ballot boxes to chose members of the parliament and the president of the country.
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Click the link to this 'Arab News.com' story and notice the 'Help John Kerry Win" &...."Four More Years of Bush?" ads!
The Kerry crowd is activly seeking $$$$$$ through placed ads on a pro-Islamic news web-site or sites? It sure looks like it!
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Those are google ads (like on this site) and are chosen based on the the page content.
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John Kerry boasted earlier this year that he's met with a number of world leaders who are secretly rooting for him to defeat George Bush on Nov. 2. But in an unprecedented series of announcements in recent days, most U.S. allies are lining up behind Bush - with Kerry garnering the backing of several of America's most outspoken antagonists. The scorecard:
Bush: Japan, Australia, Russia, Italy
Kerry: North Korea, Cuba, & the Palestinian Authority
I'm having a tough time believing that this election is even going to be close.
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You haven't seen just how viciously the Dems are already cheating, AzCat ...
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Kerry: North Korea, Cuba, & the Palestinian Authority
THAT, my friends, is an endorsement! LOL!
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All Israeli citizens over the age of 18 are legitimate targets for suicide bombers and other attacks by the Palestinian "resistance," the president of the Canadian Islamic Congress says, a view that has outraged other Muslim organizations as well as Jewish groups. Mohamed Elmasry believes that because all Israeli men and women must serve in the country's army, they are fair targets for suicide bombings and other "low-tech" weapons Palestinian militants may deploy. He reiterated his position, first broadcast last Tuesday on The Michael Coren Show, an Ontario weekday current-affairs program on Crossroads Television System, in an interview with The Globe and Mail yesterday. "Israel has a people's army and a draft and therefore they should be considered legitimate targets. They are part of the occupying power, and Palestinians consider them targets for suicide bombers as well as other means," Mr. Elmasry said.
His organization also conducts an annual survey measuring "anti-Islam" bias in Canadian media outlets through their use of anti-Muslim phrases including "Islamic terrorist" and "jihad militant." Mr. Elmasry singled out the National Post as having a pro-Israel bias, but said yesterday this bias extends to most Canadian news organizations, including The Globe and Mail. Does the schlub need a survey to measure"anti-Islam" bias with his pro-Islamic terrorism comments?
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Ok,I guess this means that every Paleo over 18 is a ligitamet target.
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That must mean the 1 million arab-Israeli citizens are also marked for the gas chambers. Include in the Beduin-Israelis, Druze-Israelis, Christian-Israelis, and atheist-Israelis. The Canadian Islamic Congress' ovens are going to be busy.
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When this world finally comes to its senses, those people who spew Islamic hatred, as in maggots like Mohamed Elmasry, will become "legitimate targets."
It is high time to simply begin offing every single sh!thead who spouts this sort of jihadist claptrap. Our world has neither the time nor resources to make any attempt at politely mediating Arabic culture's endless hatred of the Jews and everything else faintly related to human freedom or enjoyment of life in general. It's time for Islam to confine their displeasure over other ways of life or have theirs ended for all time.
Muslims can feel free to voice dissatisfactions about Western culture within their own homes or mosques. If they presume to trot it out of doors for general application, they can feel free to catch a slug for their troubles.
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
Iraq's disparate Shi'a groups might have reached an agreement to form a single slate of candidates for the elections scheduled for January, the "Financial Times" reported on 21 October. Although senior Shi'a cleric Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani has not voiced his approval, his representative in Lebanon Hamid al-Khaffaf said that "a committee has been formed. It already started its work, praised be God," the "Financial Times" reported, citing Lebanese TV. "The committee will try to ensure that all Iraqis -- be they parties, movements, currents, or independents -- will be represented on one list. This list will be open to all," al-Khaffaf said. However, al-Sistani's representative in Dubai, Murtadha al-Kashmiri, contradicted the reports, saying that al-Sistani "will not choose the candidates for the election. That is for the people to decide." A representative for the Al-Dawah party, Jawad al-Maliki, said "there is a preliminary agreement between the various groups," but he did not disclose details. The United States reportedly opposes a single Shi'a list, favoring a "consensus" list that is not sectarian.
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We'll know they are really serious when they hire James Carville as a consultant.
Beat me to it, RWV! I was thinking along the same lines, but couldn't remember the names of any of those curly-haired boys who spin for Skeery... I should've thought of old Baldy! Perfect!
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"a committee has been formed. It already started its work, praised be God,"
Does anyone else have a problem with this?
Politicians would be well advised to STFU about praising God and attend to their duties of improving the corporeal lives of those they represent. This inextricable intermingling of religion and government is a recipe for disaster.
One need only examine how America's Office of Faith Based Giving is now funneling whatever part of a million dollars to self declared world messiah Sun Myung Moon's organization to understand how poisonous conflating church and state will always be. Again, when do we channel our hard-earned tax dollars to the (fully registered) Church of Satan?
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First Stage democracy -- pretty darn cool! After all the practice they'll have working out compromises within the group -- and I rather imagine they will achieve no better than partial success toward their goal -- they will be much better prepared to deal with democracy on the national level. They have a lot of catching up to do to equal the Kurds, who've been working on it for over a decade. On the other hand, the Sunnis won't know what hit them if they don't quickly get up to speed (which they won't be able to do -- they have too long been accustomed to playing cock o'the walk. This will be a salutory experience for them.)
'Come Closer to Allah Through the Blood of Infidels' Saud Bin Hamoud Al-Utaybi, who is wanted by the Saudi authorities, wrote the following in the journal's opening editorial: "Muslims! Go out to [fight] Jihad for the sake of Allah! Paradise has already flung open its gates and the virgins of paradise are already decked out in anticipation of their grooms this is Allah's promise. He [Allah] will not grant peace of mind to anyone who has a heart until he has gone out to fight against Allah's enemies, as he was commanded. He who does not act [i.e., fight the Jihad ] out of obedience to Allah's command, and out of zeal for the honor of the Muslim women which was defiled at Abu Ghreib and in the other prisons of the leaders of unbelief, and out of fervor, and out of mortification at [the thought of] shirking [battle] what else could arouse him [to go to battle] other than all of these?âŠ
"Muslims! You should at the very least pray for your brothers the Jihad fighters, who gave their lives and spilled their blood for Allah in defense of the holy sites that were desecrated and in revenge for the pride of the Muslim nation that was wounded by the cross bearers and by the Jews. Don't forget to pray for your brothers in FallujahâŠ
(because they are as depraved & wacko as the brain dead mook he wrote this crap)
"We pray for the Jihad fighters in Fallujah and in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, the Arabian Peninsula ⊠in wounded Palestine, which the most wicked of all humans have been flooding with iniquity for more than 50 years, without there being anyone to stop them, and in Egypt, in whose borders your valiant brothers took action and attacked a hotel in which Jews were gathered and killed dozens of them as an offering to Allah before Ramadan. We ask of Allah that he not deny them [their] reward for this colossal feat. (Sooooo peaceful)
"Don't forget your brothers in Algeria who have been fighting for Allah for more than ten years. [These fighters] have suffered from the abandonment of those close to them, from the enmity of those far from them, from the enemy's assault and from [various] afflictions and tribulations, but this has not weakened them. We appreciate them, and Allah will grant them their reward. We ask Allah to grant victory to them and to the other Jihad fighters everywhere⊠(Oh grand mufti of morons let us blow up before the Marines blow us away.)
"Oh, men of Jihad everywhere! There are two types of Jihad in Ramadan: The diurnal Jihad [expressed by] fasting and the nocturnal Jihad [expressed by] prayer. Perform the J ihad against your enemies with your [own two] hands, sacrifice your souls and your property in fighting your enemy, as an imitation of [the acts of] your Prophet [Muhammad] in the month of Ramadan [and in order to] enrage your enemies. I bet they can't buy medical insurance due to a pre- existing 'condition'.
"Oh, men of Jihad, the victory of Allah's religion will be as [Allah] said: 'Fight them until there is no civil strife [ fitna ] in the country, and God's religion shall reign supreme.' [ Koran 8:39] For the country is full of civil strife and unbelief. wild stuff
"Oh, men of Jihad, cleanse the country of unbelief and unbelievers by means of Jihad and war [and by means of] the sword and the spear. Do not be led astray by the power of the infidels because their strength, be it what it may, is under Allah's control and His agenda. 'Agenda'? similar to Kerry's election agenda?
"Know that Allah grants you victory and supports you as He promised. Make use of this glorious month because it brings together great elements: fasting, nocturnal prayer, the reciting of the Quran and other good deeds. Therefore, trust in your Lord, fight your enemies, and cleanse the Arabian Peninsula of the unbelievers." After they 'cleanse' Arabia there might be two terrorists & three camels remaining plus a lot of sand. The oil is tarnished by 'infidels' so blow it up
Sick is not the word for this jihadic dribble. Is there a team of psychotherapists in the house, or some mean psychiatrists? How about a group of exorcists? Better yet, an urgent shipment of nutron bombs to our Coalition forces where ever required.
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Well, I guess hugs and singing Kumbayah is not going to work with these chaps.
After reading this madness, I have a great need to take a shower and use up a whole bar of soap. My wife, who is a psychologist, says that they are broken people that cannot be fixed, and she has dealt with all types. So I guess that it is just the Orkin Man, now.
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Seriously folks I think these assholes need to get laid. They are so sexually frustrated and impotent (maybe that explains the big turbans and robes "ifs you gotta ta be impotent yh gots ta dress impotent") the only release they have is violence.
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Love the picture, looks like Ming the Merciless with constipation.
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Cheaderhead, you go ahead and take care of the laying, if you feel its that important. I think I can speak for most females in this case when I say, ICK! No thank you!
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Interactive: 'Mapping The Races' in the link
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one of the best sites on the net for this stuff is realclearpolitics.com There is link for a map there that is updated daily (hourly?) and lots of good articles. Also, another map at electoral-vote.com
This is one of the very best - solid statistical and logical analysis and tracking on a state-by-state basis, evey single day. Very attentive to not letting bias creep into the ratings of which state is doing what (unlike CBS).
I also like Real Clear Politics - RCP is the best site for raw stats and polls.
Minnesota has Bush at even, Bush has had a lead in Iowa for a few weeks and is up +6 now, and Wisconsin has been showing even and Bush +1 to +4 for weeks as well, yet CBS had both those states "Kerry".
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so that's why the Islamists worship it....
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Their research and analysis shows that earthquakes, coupled with shifts in the faults, often occurred at a time when the moon's gravity and earth's tides jointly helped such plates move.
I worked for USGS in earthquake research in the early '70s and we realized that this could be a factor then. We measured the tilt of the earth at various places along the San Andreas fault in california and sent the real time data into Menlo Park. After factoring out earth tides, we looked at what was left. We figured that these tilts could be precursors to an earthquake or fault slip.
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Next, cyclic variations in solar radiation, found in variable stars such as our Sun, have effect on Earth's climate. Ah, no couldn't be, could it?
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Don't panic -- the article is on Australia. Here's one that doesn't require registration.
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Myself, I've always wonder want interesting effects of living downwind several states from of all those open air nuke tests in the 50s, when I was but a young child, was going to have. Never have seen any serious science on it.
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my dad lived North of the testing - Fallon, NV; died of a brain tumor/cancer as did many of his contemporaries....I'm not concerned in litigation, just also curious
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Expatriates of all nationalities are entitled to apply for Saudi citizenship and their travels abroad with re-entry visas will not disqualify them, press reports said yesterday quoting senior officials.... Shubaily ibn Majdoue Al-Qarni, chairman of the security committee which supervised amendments to the law, said Saudi citizenship would be open for all nationals working in the Kingdom. "The law does not aim at a particular nationality. On the other hand, it covers all expatriates in the country," he told Al-Madinah. But Al-Watan Arabic daily reported that the naturalization law would not be applicable to Palestinians living in the Kingdom as the Arab League has instructed that Palestinians living in Arab countries should not be given citizenship to avoid dissolution of their identity and protect their right to return to their homeland.
The United Nations has rejected an Iraqi request to train about 30 judges and prosecutors to try Saddam Hussein and his close associates. 
With 11 days to go before the November 2 presidential election, officials in the battleground state of Florida are looking into complaints of widespread voter fraud, the state's Department of Law Enforcement said. Over the last several weeks, the department has received numerous complaints from elections supervisors, the secretary of state's office and citizens alleging "sometimes organized efforts" to commit fraud in voter registrations, party affiliation forms and absentee ballots, the department said in a statement. Investigations are under way throughout the state. Some people who thought they were signing petitions apparently "later found out that their signatures or possible forged signatures were used to complete a fraudulent voter registration," the department said. 
U.S. and Iraqi forces have nabbed a senior member of wanted terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's inner circle during a raid in southern Falluja, according to the Multi-National Forces-Iraq. Five other people were also detained in the raid on the safe haven, which happened around 1:30 a.m. Saturday, the MNF-I statement said. Initially, the individual targeted and detained was thought to be a minor member of al-Zarqawi's circle. However, the MNF-I said that "due to a surge in the number of Zarqawi associates who have been captured or killed by MNF-I strikes and other operations, the member had moved up to take a critical position as a Zarqawi senior leader."
``Yesterday, we ran two very graphic photos that angered and upset many in our community,'' Editorial Director Ken Chandler said. ``Our aim was to illustrate this terrible tragedy as comprehensively as possible and to prevent a repetition by portraying the harsh reality of what can happen when a crowd acts irresponsibly. ``It was never our intent to disrespect Victoria Snelgrove or her family,'' Chandler said. ``In retrospect, the images of this unusually ugly incident were too graphic. I apologize to the Snelgroves and the community at large.'' Snelgrove, who would have turned 22 next week, was a bystander in a crowd of thousands outside Fenway Park early Thursday when she was shot by one of several pepper balls fired by police to try to subdue fans throwing bottles and bricks. The Herald ran on its front and inside pages two photographs of her bloodied body splayed on Lansdowne Street, triggering scores of complaints. 
The U.S. military has arrested a "senior leader" in the network run by Jordanian terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, along with five others during overnight raids in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah, officials said Saturday. American forces have stepped up operations in Fallujah in a bid to root out al-Zarqawi's terror group, Tawhid and Jihad, which is believed to operate from there. The group has been blamed in numerous suicide bombings and beheadings of foreign hostages, including recent twin blasts inside Baghdad's Green Zone, which houses the U.S and Iraqi leadership. The 1:30 a.m. raid in southern Fallujah targeted a site being used as a safe haven by al-Zarqawi's inner circle, according to a military statement. Intelligence sources said the man captured was previously thought to be a relatively minor member of the terror network. But because so many of al-Zarqawi's associates have been captured or killed, he moved up to take a more important role.
The bullet-riddled body of a Palestinian was found near a trash bin on a Gaza City street Saturday, and Hamas said it killed the man on suspicion he passed along information that helped Israel assassinate the group's founder and nine others. Also Saturday, five Tunisian doctors were en route to the West Bank to examine Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who has the flu. A Tunisian diplomat said Arafat is recovering, and that the exam is a precaution. Palestinian militants have killed dozens of alleged informants in the West Bank, but such attacks have been rare in the Gaza Strip, where the Palestinian security services still function to some degree. Hassan Musallam, in his 20s, had been missing for several days. His body was found two days after Israel killed the deputy chief of the Hamas military wing, 
Interviews with dozens of former and current Iraqi officials by congressional investigators have produced new evidence that Saddam Hussein micro-managed business deals under the U.N. oil-for-food program to maximize political influence with important foreign governments like Russia and neighboring Arab states. The Iraqi officials, who were flown outside of Iraq for their own safety during the interviews, provided a list of foreign companies favored by Saddam and his top lieutenants for import contracts under the U.N. program. They also revealed a parallel blacklist of companies that the then-Iraq leader disqualified from getting deals, investigators told The Associated Press.
France's anti-terrorist police on Friday identified a young Frenchman killed fighting the United States in Iraq, the first confirmed case of what is believed to be a growing stream of Muslims heading from Europe to fight what they regard as a new holy war. 
"One person was killed who is believed to have been the attacker," said Lt Colonel Patrick Poulain, spokesman at the headquarters of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in the Afghan capital. The bloody corpse of the attacker lay on the sidewalk, near a damaged ISAF vehicle, Reuters eyewitnesses said. The attack happened on Chicken Street, a well-known haunt for foreigners shopping for carpets, jewelry and antiques. Poulain said seven people were wounded in the blast. One of the ISAF troops was in a serious condition, while the other two were only slightly hurt. There were no details on their nationalities. Poulain said one of the civilians wounded was believed to be a foreign woman, but added that this was unconfirmed.
Three Muslim Filipinos acting on orders from the 
...The Hawai'i Poll, taken among 600 likely voters statewide between Oct. 13 and Monday, had Bush at 43.3 percent and Kerry at 42.6 percent. The margin of error was 4 percentage points. [...] Nearly a third of the people who plan to vote for Bush described themselves as Democrats while only 5 percent of Republicans say they will vote for Kerry. "I'm a Democrat but I strongly support what President Bush is doing," said Jun Elegino, a nursing student at Hawai'i Pacific University who serves in the Army National Guard. "He's my commander in chief...."
Two weeks after coordinated bombings at several Red Sea resorts in Egypt, Israeli and Egyptian investigators have yet to assemble a clear picture of how the attacks occurred or identify the people or group behind them, according to officials who described a frustrating shortage of evidence, the same problem that plagued other major terrorism inquiries in the early stages.
'Come Closer to Allah Through the Blood of Infidels' 
