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2006-08-10 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-10 05:19|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Christopher Hitchens coined the term, "Islamo-Fascism" in 2001. Unless I am mistaken, the President never used the term until last Monday. Joseph Farah has been saying that this enemy is worse than any other that we have faced.
Correct. He called the modern Wahhabi and Shia versions of fascistic jihad "Islam with a fascist face" in 2001.

President Bush was too quick to listen to Wahhabi-sympathizing groups like CAIR and their Saudi sponsors, remember Prince Bandar? He should have gone after the Mordors of radical Islam, i.e., Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran right from the start after 9-11. Now he is a dollar short and nearly five years too late.

I called it back in October 18, 2001:
AT WAR WITH AN IDEA

Posted by Lancasters Over Dresden 2006-08-10 09:53|| http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp]">[http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp] 2006-08-10 09:53|| Front Page Top

#2 He said "America is at war with islamic fascists" in his remarks on the runway in Wisconsin this morning. And he didn't bother to qualify it with any ROP bullscrit afterward...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2006-08-10 14:27|| 2006-08-10 14:27|| Front Page Top

#3 I should think that adding Fascists to the term Islamo modifies it enough to give him a bit of wiggle-room. "I didn't mean the peaceful Muslim, I meant the other ones. The fascist ones).

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-08-10 14:41|| 2006-08-10 14:41|| Front Page Top

#4 We move into a different phase of the war...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-08-10 14:44|| 2006-08-10 14:44|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't care what "phase" of the war we're in, as long as we keep killing our enemies. That's all that counts in the long run.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-08-10 15:22|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-08-10 15:22|| Front Page Top

#6 I meant that we're now calling our enemies by a name rather than some 'concept'.

PS some Lebanon maps at U Texas at Austin

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-08-10 15:42|| 2006-08-10 15:42|| Front Page Top

#7 "nihilistic Islamic absolutism (NIA)" works for me just as well, but could some kindly Rantburgers share their knowledge of fascism? In the most recent examples of fascism, what are the primary traits? How did religion play a role in fascism in WWII Italy, Germany, Romania...?

Definition of fascism from answers.com. Now who does this sound like:

fas·cism (f?sh'?z'?m)
n.
often Fascism
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Posted by Jules in the Hinterlands 2006-08-10 17:00|| 2006-08-10 17:00|| Front Page Top

#8 How did religion play a role in fascism in WWII Italy, Germany, Romania...?

Google up: Haj Amin el Husseini (Grant Mufti of Jerusalem), or Waffen-SS Handsar Division which he personall recruited. He was "rad" way before then, but it's a start.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-10 17:06|| 2006-08-10 17:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Right-wing radio is heaping praise on the President for linking this enemy, with that of WW2. Kudos to them! But, the White House link reveals that they are 4 days late in heaping praise.

Quick! What percent of Muslim "allies" have stabbed Bush in the back? Karzai? Maliki? Musharaf? CAIR/ISNA/AMC? Is it 100%? I think so.

Maybe the President has had enough. And, CBS might be playing a Mike Wallace interview, tonight, in which Iran's Ahmadinejad threatens the life of the President (if Drudge is right). You have heard of 9-11, 3-11, 7-7. How about 8-11: tomorrow should be the day when the gloves come off and we stop trying to democraticise the enemy and start slaughtering them. There are enough Secular elements in Pakistan and Iraq to suppress the clerics, if we put Islamofascist backs to the wall. As for CAIR-ISNA-AMC: ban them as terror support groups.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-10 17:17|| 2006-08-10 17:17|| Front Page Top

#10 The President used the term "Islamofascism" last year in a speech to the National Endowment for Democracy

Posted by mrp 2006-08-10 17:30|| 2006-08-10 17:30|| Front Page Top

#11 Fascism? Ask Mussolini: "...Fascism reasserts the right of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual. And if liberty is to be the attribute of living men and not of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the liberty of the State and of the individual within the State. The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist State - a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values - interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people...it is the purest form of democracy if the nation be considered -as it should be - from the point of view of quality rather than quantity, as an idea...expressing itself in a people, as the conscience and will of the few, if not, indeed, of one..." Benito Mussolini, 1932.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-10 17:34|| 2006-08-10 17:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Sounds like Islamism to me. The state and the spiritual are simply different facets of the supreme entity. The fascists approach it from the state and the Islamists approach it from the spiritual; but they both end up in the smae place, totalitarian tyranny.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-10 17:46|| 2006-08-10 17:46|| Front Page Top

#13 You put in a few Islam buzzwords(Like Ayatollah and Ummah) and Am-mad-and-I-need-a-jihad could deliver that tomorrow.

Posted by j. D. Lux 2006-08-10 18:09|| 2006-08-10 18:09|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks, Besoeker and NS.

I still would like to find out what behaviors are common, besides calls/actions for deaths of Jews and general greed.

You could replace "the State" with "Islam" easily here:

"The Fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value."

Posted by Jules in the Hinterlands 2006-08-10 18:53|| 2006-08-10 18:53|| Front Page Top

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