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2004-10-17 Great White North

QuÃ©bec's PQ leader promotes bold separation plan (again)

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-17 2:10:21 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 If they put it to a vote, English speaking Canada would say. "Good riddance to bad rubbish." Learning to speak bad French is just too large a price to pay for the privilege of supporting the ungrateful Quebecois. Although, maybe it would be good if Quebec took Ontario and the Atlantic provinces too.

Posted by RWV 2004-10-17 2:18:21 PM|| 2004-10-17 2:18:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 A land-locked province, mind you. These people are just dumber'n a bag of hammers...

Posted by mojo 2004-10-17 4:57:20 PM|| 2004-10-17 4:57:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mojo-
Quebec is not landlocked. They have easy access to the ocean via the St. Lawrence river. I agree, however, that they are idiots.

Posted by Spot 2004-10-17 5:02:05 PM|| 2004-10-17 5:02:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Spot - Canada has access. Quebec must negotiate them.....

Posted by Frank G 2004-10-17 5:10:52 PM|| 2004-10-17 5:10:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 From what I can see, Quebec has a straight shot from Montreal out to the Atlantic. Unless the Newfies want to mount a blockade.

If Quebec weren't part of Canada, how would that affect their elections? Would the Liberals lose enough seats to lose power?

Posted by jackal 2004-10-17 6:03:48 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2004-10-17 6:03:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Let them withdraw. Don't let them in NAFTA. Seal the borders. They can become a Department of France. We can take all the French off of everything we buy from the other parts of Canada that actually produce something. Oh, and let's adjust the U. S. Border to the St. Laurence.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-17 6:18:11 PM|| 2004-10-17 6:18:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 As long as Nell and the Inuits have a vote to stay in Canada, then good riddance.

Posted by Dudley Dooright 2004-10-17 6:32:49 PM|| 2004-10-17 6:32:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 So they want to become France, Jr., eh? Remember Le Grande Charles deGaulle's little number in Quebec before he left Canada? Heh. I say, let 'em go. The US and other Canadian provinces will develop closer relations and Quebec will be forced to look itself in the mirror without any more tantrums to throw.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-10-17 6:38:22 PM|| 2004-10-17 6:38:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Geez, just go already, wouldja? I doubt the rest of Canada would care.

If the Atlantic provinces don't want to go with Quebec (and why should they? They seem to have good sense), and it proves too difficult for them to remain with the rest of Canada, and they don't want to be independent, I'm sure we could arrange something. Up to them.

Good luck, Canada, in getting rid of your Phrench millstone.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-10-17 6:42:41 PM|| 2004-10-17 6:42:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Careful about those Atlantic Provinces. From what I've heard, they'd be solid blue. Just what's west of Ontario.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-17 7:00:23 PM|| 2004-10-17 7:00:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 It might be nice to hear Newfies tell frog jokes.

Posted by RWV 2004-10-17 7:01:28 PM|| 2004-10-17 7:01:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The last thing Quebec wants is real independence.That bit about economic union means they want the rest(ie. West)of Canada to continue paying the bills,while local politicians make all the decisions.The best thing Canada could do would be to say,fine,have your vote now,and if you vote yes,we agree to your independence,but you should know,the day after the vote we are not sending another Federal dollar to Quebec,and we will be sending you a bill for all the Federal buildings we payed for in Quebec.So vote or STFU!

Posted by Stephen 2004-10-17 7:02:11 PM|| 2004-10-17 7:02:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Separation ain't gonna happen folks. Federal Canadian politics is a game played too well by Quebec. Much like how France games the EU to its benefit. Well at least it did until the new arrivals missed out on their opportunity to shut up.

What Quebec really wants is all the trappings of an independent state, but without the serious obligations of one--like having to make its own way in the world. It's close now. They've got their own immigration policy fer crissakes. (The fact that Quebec has an immigration recruiting office in Damascus should give us pause.)

Quebec will never walk away from the intra-provincial financial transfers it commands from being the pivot point in federal politics. It's a shame Quebec doesn't separate. The two way game of placate Quebec/agitate for "sovereignty" is profoundly corrupting for all the players.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-10-17 7:18:47 PM|| 2004-10-17 7:18:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Quebec is not landlocked. They have easy access to the ocean via the St. Lawrence river. I agree, however, that they are idiots.

Quebec will be landlocked.

Posted by The Only Armed Force That Matters 2004-10-17 8:19:33 PM|| 2004-10-17 8:19:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 But CL, they have an anthem an' everything! They're ready to go! Vive La Belle Quefrog...

Posted by Seafarious 2004-10-17 8:27:36 PM|| 2004-10-17 8:27:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 This is why my mother-in-law finally traded in her Canadian citizenship for American.

Posted by trailing wife 2004-10-17 8:33:45 PM|| 2004-10-17 8:33:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The funniest part is that 83% of the territory is claimed by Cree and they would "separate" from Quebec and their phrenchophony. They make no bones about it.

I'd say go for it, Quebfrogs! But total independence only, no funny stuff.

Which is, as Classical_Liberal notes, unlikely, the gravy train would run no more.

In time, the western provinces would get fed up, and split along the western Ontario border.

Posted by Memesis 2004-10-17 9:30:23 PM|| 2004-10-17 9:30:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 The only thing is, the Quebec separatists don't want to allow the Cree to separate. Odd that. But the Cree do have a valid claim, imo.

This is all started with that DeGaul guy when he exclaimed "Vivre le Quebec libre!". Asshole.

Posted by Rafael 2004-10-17 9:45:19 PM|| 2004-10-17 9:45:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Rafael, you think that Cree would ask them nicely for a permission? Bw...bw...hahahhahahaha

Posted by Memesis 2004-10-17 10:55:05 PM|| 2004-10-17 10:55:05 PM|| Front Page Top

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