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2004-05-03 International-UN-NGOs

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Posted by Steve White 2004-05-03 2:43:45 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 My, how far the UN has fallen... from Lie to Hammarskjold to U-Thant to Waldheim to Boutros-Ghali to Annan.

Posted by .com 2004-05-03 3:06:12 AM|| 2004-05-03 3:06:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Ratko Mladic, the Serb commander and war criminal, deported the women and children under the eyes of the UN

Quite literally, in fact.

Posted by Rafael 2004-05-03 4:39:47 AM|| 2004-05-03 4:39:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 If Annan was WHITE, it would have been OUSTED from its cushy job long ago. The one mistake President Bush should acknowledge was the decision he took to allow that Hutu-loving fecesstain a SECOND term as Secretary General.

Posted by Garrison 2004-05-03 4:49:40 AM|| 2004-05-03 4:49:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I've said this earlier, so can I say it again? Thanks.#1 Good Lord man, they are both pathetic. Equally so I think. I wouldn't worry about the dork Wilson. Wait, they're both dorks and equally pathetic. What is bothersome is that the slimy snake Annie is going to slither out of this thing.You just watch as things unfold. I'll bet somehow, some way, by some general agreement the sanctity of the world body must be preserved and that is what will happen. I believe we'll see people, influential people, step forward in defence of those bastards and the whole thing will evaporate. I hope not,but if it does I hope someone has the moxie to formulate a petition to stop all taxes going to the UN. We ain't powerless ya know.Chine

Posted by Chiner 2004-05-03 5:27:17 AM|| 2004-05-03 5:27:17 AM|| Front Page Top

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One of the two great disasters for which he [Kofi Annan] bears a large share of the blame is the Serbian slaughter of 7000 people in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica, perhaps the worst massacre in post-war Europe. .... they failed to sound the alarm properly and did nothing to intervene. The Dutch fired not a single shot. NATO air power could have halted the Serbs, but Annan did not ask for NATO intervention.

This is similar to the argument that George Bush "bears a large share of the blame" for the September 11 attacks. Some one man in charge was supposed to foresee dastardly attacks and was supposed to adroitly marshal preventative measures.

In this argument here, NATO's failure to intervene is the fault of Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General of the United Nations. The Dutch contingent's small and weak force is the fault of Kofi Annan. The Srebrenice massacre is the fault of Kofi Annan. He could have prevented it, but he didn't. He "bears a large share of the blame." If he had ordered the Dutch soldiers to fire a shot, the massacre would not have happened. If he had asked NATO to drop some bombs, the massacre would not have happened.

The article ignores Annan's actions, after the massacre, to support an effective international response. He receives no credit here for anything at all.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-03 6:31:55 AM|| 2004-05-03 6:31:55 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-03 7:48:41 AM|| 2004-05-03 7:48:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 We all owe Annan a debt of gratitude. If Kerry continues to tout the UN as the way to win the war in Iraq, he could go down on Annan's sinking ship. If he acknowledges what a farce the UN has become, then his anti-American activities will make him look unfit to lead Americans into battle.

Annan's done. He's finished and he's taken the UN credibility along with him. He and Chirac and the others have already been exposed. There will be no putting a lid on this scandal - no matter how much the press tries to ignore it. In fact, each day the press ignores it, their credibility sinks even further.

Yumm...toast for breakfast. That sounds good.

Posted by Anny Emous 2004-05-03 7:55:00 AM|| 2004-05-03 7:55:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Mike,nobody saw 9/11 coming.On the other hand I saw the Ethnic clensing and massacre of Srebrenice
plus the Rawadan Genocide happening before my eyes on the news.
If I could see these crimes aginst humanity happening why couldnt he?
Are you going to sit there and tell me Kofi doesn't have a television, doesn't own a radio,and never buys a newspaper.
How come he absolutly will not acknowlege much less do anything about the slaughter happening right now in the Sudan?
Why is it that every place U.N.Peacekeepers(talk about wrong terminalogy!)are sent they do nothing?
What about Iraq?As soon as the U.N. compound got boombed they couildn't run away fast enough.

Posted by raptor 2004-05-03 7:58:33 AM|| 2004-05-03 7:58:33 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-03 9:00:47 AM|| 2004-05-03 9:00:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Kofi Annan is an executive who basically only carries out the will of the United Nations members, especially the will of the Security Council. Two members of the Security Council -- Russia and China -- consistently vetoed or threatened to veto effective measures to counter Serbia.

I think that's basically true; it's also true that the stuff needed to get things done in the face of these obstacles is called leadership.

Posted by Rawsnacks 2004-05-03 9:34:17 AM|| 2004-05-03 9:34:17 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-03 9:56:56 AM|| 2004-05-03 9:56:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 The obstacles were two Security Council members with veto power.

I know. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Insert quote about good men doing nothing here.

Posted by Rawsnacks 2004-05-03 10:24:12 AM|| 2004-05-03 10:24:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Mike if Kofi had a hair on his ass he would have been screaming far and wide for something to be done.Yet I don't recall hearing him say a thing.
Same goes for Rawanda.

Posted by raptor 2004-05-03 10:47:01 AM|| 2004-05-03 10:47:01 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-03 10:56:00 AM|| 2004-05-03 10:56:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 I've been thinking of making a T-shirt, but can't settle on the slogan.

"US out of UN"
or
"UN out of US"

Rantburgers?

Posted by growler 2004-05-03 10:56:49 AM|| 2004-05-03 10:56:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Mike - Kofi's son participated in the Oil-For Saddam bribes - think Kofi's clean? - get him out!
Expose the UN for the cowardly criminal hellhole it's become

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-03 10:59:33 AM|| 2004-05-03 10:59:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 The fact that much of the world is comprized of thugocracies and kleptocracies and that many of the countries have organized hate campaigns against the US guaranteed that the UN would be the kind of organization that it has become. Maybe Kofi expedited this slightly, but the fundamental flaw of the UN is not the SecGen; it is the membership.

Posted by mhw 2004-05-03 11:20:13 AM|| 2004-05-03 11:20:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 By the way, do you want the UN Secretary-General to "overcome obstacles" and to "scream far and wide" when he doesn't like US vetoes in the Security Council?

Not me; I want the UN to be exposed and destroyed as a utopian fraud, the quicker the better.

Posted by Rawsnacks 2004-05-03 11:21:42 AM|| 2004-05-03 11:21:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Well spoken, mhw, in comment #19! What does anyone expect the UN to do given its membership of dictatorial and tyrannical governments holding the majority of the votes? When Israelis attack the West Bank or Gaza in raids to eliminate terrorists, everyone at the UN is all a-froth to condemn Israel. When the terrorists blow up an Israeli bus full of women and children, they order mineral water.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-03 11:40:58 AM|| 2004-05-03 11:40:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 Why Mike, if Kofi DID say anything, loudly, far, and wide, about these massacres, then they'd be on the record. Since you're so much for him, why don't you CITE those records?

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Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-03 12:07:19 PM|| 2004-05-03 12:07:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 NO other organisation is regarded with such respect as the United Nations.

I had to hold back a loud, hysterical laugh when I read this one.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-03 1:20:58 PM|| 2004-05-03 1:20:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 By the way, do you want the UN Secretary-General to "overcome obstacles" and to "scream far and wide" when he doesn't like US vetoes in the Security Council?

Part of the problem here is that Anan has taken it upon himself to make pronouncements as if he was a statesman and not just an executive.

That leaves him open to criticisms which are unfair if aimed at a mere bureaucrat. Anan wants the respect of a leader without the responsibility, or so it would appear.

Posted by rkb 2004-05-03 2:53:04 PM|| 2004-05-03 2:53:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Coming soon-The UN Shuffle.Kofi will hold press conference announcing he is stepping down-not because he did anything wrong,but because he loves the UN soooo much and he doesn't want to be a distraction from the important work the UN does.Sven will retire quietly w/comment he did the best he could against all those lying Iraqis.New leader will announce that all is in the past,and that UN has to look toward future.

Posted by Stephen 2004-05-03 4:08:03 PM|| 2004-05-03 4:08:03 PM|| Front Page Top

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