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2006-04-17 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
US Plan to Invade Iran Is Updated, Says Top Intelligence Analyst
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Posted by Fred 2006-04-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Giggle. Gen Barbara Ferguson, Arab News, is apparently incapable of understanding that a modern military has regularly updated war plans for almost every contingency, and most certainly for a country which has been a belligerent since 1979 and a major terror enabler. Gen Barbie should post her stories from retirement, along with the other fools. That's how this sort of peanut gallery babble is done.
Posted by Clomoter Grath1032 2006-04-17 03:29||   2006-04-17 03:29|| Front Page Top

#2 It's just a roundup of the stupidest off the wall shit said recently by completely out of the loop or ex or former whatever types that she could find. Perfect for the Arab News crowd. I thought it was quite funny. :)
Posted by Flurt Omaique3788 2006-04-17 03:47||   2006-04-17 03:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Interestingly enough, a quick Google does not seem to reveal any General Barbara Ferguson, but does reveal a 'Renaissance Woman' by that name who wrote an article about Easter with the Marines in 2003:

http://www.rwnetwork.net/Barbara_Ferguson

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-04-17 06:14||   2006-04-17 06:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Here's a REAL story on what we will probably do by a REAL General and it would not be to invade (twits) or use nukes (morons), as the silly gossip in this piece repeated from that passle of losers.

Target: Iran
by Thomas McInerney

The strike package, 1500+ aimpoints, with the desired result of setting them back at least 5 years. He talks about regime change a bit, too...
Posted by Elmuth Snolutch9577 2006-04-17 07:21||   2006-04-17 07:21|| Front Page Top

#5 When the United States formalized its war plans in the early 20th Century, potential foes were coded by color. Japan became Orange, Germany was Black, and Britain was noted as Red. British dominions also drew shades of Red: Canada was Crimson, New Zealand was Garnet, India was Ruby and Australia was Scarlet. I'm sure there are lots of 'plans' out there which will never see the light of day. Idle staff officers have to be kept busy to make sure the force managment people don't cut personnel slots in organizations.
Posted by Whoper Flart5291 2006-04-17 09:26||   2006-04-17 09:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Iran is Burnt Umber
Posted by Frank G 2006-04-17 10:08||   2006-04-17 10:08|| Front Page Top

#7 We have plans for just about everything. It would actually be news if we didn't have plans for everything and were just reacting instead of being pro-active.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-04-17 10:22||   2006-04-17 10:22|| Front Page Top

#8 I really hate the idea of "setting their nuclear program back five years". It is just idiocy. It accomplishes *nothing*. What kind of mindset thinks up something like that? Somebody who can't plan past next Tuesday? And what happens in five years? We do it again, like with Iraq?

That is why I am such an advocate of partitioning Iran. My argument is that the Iranian *people* want a bomb. So *any* government they get is *also* going to want a bomb. Ergo, the *only* way to keep them from getting a bomb is to carve them up in such a way that they *cannot*, no way, no how, get a bomb unless someone gives them a fully functional bomb.

There is no real argument against partitioning.

To do it, we must annihilate the Iranian army and Revolutionary Guard. Without them, we can cut up their country in the logical way, and the pieces all will have new owners more proper to the people who live there.

This is no great trauma to the Persian people, who live in what will remain--Persia. But they will no longer have the resources to build a nuclear weapon. Not in 5 years, or 10, or 50.

The few Persians who live in Iranian Kurdistan, Baluchistan, the Iranian Azeri lands, and the Iranian Arab lands can go back to Persia and leave the hated and despised minorities to rule over their own lands for a change.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-17 10:54||   2006-04-17 10:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Iranian OPLAN web link, for those interested.

http://members.lycos.nl/marketgarden44/
Posted by Besoeker 2006-04-17 11:42||   2006-04-17 11:42|| Front Page Top

#10 War Plan RED: Invasion Canada

Invading Canada won't be like invading Iraq: When we invade Canada, nobody will be able to grumble that we didn't have a plan.

The United States government does have a plan to invade Canada. It's a 94-page document called "Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan -- Red," with the word SECRET stamped on the cover. It's a bold plan, a bodacious plan, a step-by-step plan to invade, seize and annex our neighbor to the north. It goes like this:


Canadian Mounties
Any invasion of Canada by U.S. forces shouldn't underestimate the legendary Royal Canadian Mounted Police. (Patterson Clark -- The Washington Post)
Also In Style

* Hot Under the Collar
* Reporters In Glass Houses
* Bourgeois in Baltimore: Forty Uneasy Pieces
* Stevenson's 'Treasure Island': Still Avast Delight
* Left Bank Quartet Gets Plenty of Bang for Its Bartok
* Style Section

First, we send a joint Army-Navy overseas force to capture the port city of Halifax, cutting the Canadians off from their British allies.

Then we seize Canadian power plants near Niagara Falls, so they freeze in the dark.

Then the U.S. Army invades on three fronts -- marching from Vermont to take Montreal and Quebec, charging out of North Dakota to grab the railroad center at Winnipeg, and storming out of the Midwest to capture the strategic nickel mines of Ontario.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Navy seizes the Great Lakes and blockades Canada's Atlantic and Pacific ports.

...

It sounds like a joke but it's not. War Plan Red is real. It was drawn up and approved by the War Department in 1930, then updated in 1934 and 1935. It was declassified in 1974 and the word "SECRET" crossed out with a heavy pencil. Now it sits in a little gray box in the National Archives in College Park, available to anybody, even Canadian spies. They can photocopy it for 15 cents a page.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/29/AR2005122901412.html

Its our JOB to be ready and have a plan for EVERYTHING, even the fairly unreasonable. So why is everyon eacting surprised that we have plans for an invasion of Iran? Probably had an OPLAN for that updated yearly since 1979.

Aside fromthat, we will not invade Iran. Anythign sent on them is pre-emptive of their acquiring nuclear weaponry and punative for continuing to be a rogue nation run by a fundamentalist fanatic who sees hiw role as being the one who brings the Muslim Messiah by making war.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-04-17 13:55||   2006-04-17 13:55|| Front Page Top

#11 LOL. I sure hope it's been revised to make the seizure of Quebec optional.

Do you think they need help with the Bermuda invasion plan?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-17 14:02||   2006-04-17 14:02|| Front Page Top

#12 * Hot Under the Collar
* Reporters In Glass Houses
* Bourgeois in Baltimore: Forty Uneasy Pieces
* Stevenson's 'Treasure Island': Still Avast Delight
* Left Bank Quartet Gets Plenty of Bang for Its Bartok
* Style Section


War Plan RED: Invasion Canada
UPDATE:
Just back from reconnoitering Victoria Island OldSpook.

Was mooned by the locals on a regular basis, please advise alternate contingencies.
Posted by Red Dog 2006-04-17 14:46||   2006-04-17 14:46|| Front Page Top

#13 I can live with setting Iranian plans back five years, Anonymoose. That's about what Israel did to Iraq's Osiraq nuclear plant, and then events intervened to keep Saddam Hussein's plans off-track. The key is to give the world breathing room while a permanent fix is put in place, and to get the attention of the many others with nuclear intentions. "Let not the Best be the enemy of the Good," after all.

Fifteen cents a page to make copies, Old Spook? My goodness.

Red Dog, you might consider getting a pair or two of those clever undershorts from Kmart, the ones with the tongue sticking out, and share the friendly expression with your Canadian hosts -- to show your appreciation. In the meantime, why don't you sit down next to me, and have a nice cup of tea and a piece of honey cake. And for those who'd care to join us, the honey cake and macaroons are on the table, and something a bit stronger is on the sideboard for those who don't appreciate tea properly. :-)
Posted by trailing wife 2006-04-17 15:53||   2006-04-17 15:53|| Front Page Top

#14 Divisonal Field Exercises are over. The friendly seizure of Memphis is only ___ days away. Thence to Line Wrigley for a ____ pause until the assault on Madison.
Posted by Task Force Dothan 2006-04-17 17:06||   2006-04-17 17:06|| Front Page Top

#15 TF Dothan, the cover of your plan wouldn't happen to be...orange, now would it?
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2006-04-17 17:12||   2006-04-17 17:12|| Front Page Top

#16 That's deeply held. I can tell that the mechanized forces of Alabama include certain light assets from Eastern Tennesse
Posted by Task Force Dothan 2006-04-17 17:15||   2006-04-17 17:15|| Front Page Top

#17 Red Dog, you might consider getting a pair or two of those clever undershorts from Kmart, the ones with the tongue sticking out, and share the friendly expression with your Canadian hosts -- to show your appreciation. In the meantime, why don't you sit down next to me, and have a nice cup of tea and a piece of honey cake. And for those who'd care to join us, the honey cake and macaroons are on the table, and something a bit stronger is on the sideboard for those who don't appreciate tea properly.

I'm so there TW!! Love the tea btw and the honey cake is very sweety of you!! :-)
Posted by RD 2006-04-17 21:42||   2006-04-17 21:42|| Front Page Top

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