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2007-11-04 India-Pakistan

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Posted by Fred 2007-11-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1 "major crackdown on lawyers and politicians across the country"

Can we do that here too?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-11-04 01:04|| 2007-11-04 01:04|| Front Page Top

#2 What is it that they say about lawyers... that it's the 95% that give bad name to the rest?

Posted by twobyfour 2007-11-04 01:18|| http://www.twobyfour.nfo/]">[http://www.twobyfour.nfo/] 2007-11-04 01:18|| Front Page Top

#3 If you listen to the moonbats the same thing happens here every day, but when pressed to give examples or facts they start talking in tounges.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-11-04 01:20|| 2007-11-04 01:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Certainly must hand it to Moose. He's spent enough time in the Army to knows where the parasites and kak disturbers in society are.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-11-04 01:28|| 2007-11-04 01:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Police rounded up dozens of lawyers

See, every cloud has a silver lining.

Posted by phil_b 2007-11-04 02:28|| 2007-11-04 02:28|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually there is a good case for the claim that civil authority is impotent as far as solving the Pakistan's problems. If Mushy at long last moves against Pashtos and Waziris, then this could work.

Posted by McZoid 2007-11-04 02:55|| 2007-11-04 02:55|| Front Page Top

#7 it's the 95% that give [a] bad name to the rest?

Q: What's black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?

A: A Doberman!

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-04 03:57|| 2007-11-04 03:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Former ISI chief Hamid Gul arrested

The police on Sunday arrested Hamid Gul, an outspoken former chief of Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan's premier spy agency, during a small public gathering.

I am going to break a news that Former ISI chief Lt General (Retd) Hamid Gul has been arrested, said, the senior analyst of Geo Television Network Dr. Shahid Masood.

"It is not an emergency, it's martial law. One man has put the country at stake to save his rule," Gul said before he was pushed into a police van and whisked off.

Posted by john frum 2007-11-04 07:09|| 2007-11-04 07:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Imran Khan escapes arrest, flees home in Pak

Leading Pakistani opposition leader Imran Khan escaped from his home in Lahore on Sunday hours after police put him under house arrest following the imposition of emergency rule by President Pervez Musharraf.

"He was detained along with eight supporters at the house. The supporters are at home but he has slipped away," a close relative told Reuters. Police are still outside the house.

Posted by john frum 2007-11-04 07:12|| 2007-11-04 07:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Mr. McGul

General Hamid Gul

Gul, 2007 is a full blown Islamist w/ happy portfolio. sic, "Israel along with disaffected US Air Force Officers, *Did* 9/11."

Arnaud de Borchgrave interviews Hameed Gul former chief of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence. Sept 26, 2001.
Link

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-11-04 08:16|| 2007-11-04 08:16|| Front Page Top

#11 Unfortunately, arrest for the likes of Gul probably means confinement at his home.

The jihadis are simply too valuable for Perv to dismantle their operation.

He will try fine tuning, favoring one group over another, so that the infrastructure of terror remains intact and can be used at will against India and Afghanistan.

Posted by john frum 2007-11-04 09:24|| 2007-11-04 09:24|| Front Page Top

#12 Word, JF.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-11-04 13:04|| 2007-11-04 13:04|| Front Page Top

#13 He will try fine tuning, favoring one group over another, so that the infrastructure of terror remains intact and can be used at will against India and Afghanistan.

Which is why Musharref represents no sort of long-term solution in Pakistan. Old Patriot's proposal to partition Pakistan still stands as one of the only ways to dismantle what has become our world's Terror Central.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-04 13:24|| 2007-11-04 13:24|| Front Page Top

#14 "they did not show me any detention order at all"

I beleive the firearms the soldiers showed him that will shoot him if he leaves, is sufficient.

Again, the key will be the ISI - is he going to remove (by any means neccesary) those Islamists there, or will he continue to tacitly condone them?

So far, no signs of it.

Third world islamic nation with rampant fundamentalists - mix with Taliban and Nukes.

Scary recipe. We need to get the nukes controlled (by us), better yet get them OUT of there. If we cannot do that then we must render them inoperative by other than diplomatic means.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-11-04 16:24|| 2007-11-04 16:24|| Front Page Top

#15 The Chinese are really enjoying watching us squirm. I doubt they'll do much to help us in any regard in this matter, though I suspect they'll do anything for Perv, including taking the bombs into protective ~~custody~~ short term storage. Worked for Syria. For a while.

And we have to figure out how to keep Afghanistan supplied if Pak truly becomes the anarchy it aches to be.

This will lead to Turkey and Iran ratcheting up pressure on Iraq.

After India walked out on the nuclear deal, they're a weak reed. Howard's on the way out, Brown's got his troops on the way out and Sarkozy doesn't have any to send in we could work with.

I hate to say it but we're going to have to see a lot of Americans killed before enough Americans will support the kind of kinetics the situation requires.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-04 16:39|| 2007-11-04 16:39|| Front Page Top

#16 NS - You've read into this the worst case scenario, could you be more negative on your spin and not be a donk plant?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-04 17:01|| 2007-11-04 17:01|| Front Page Top

#17 Frank, what's not realistic? Or even probable? Bottom line, Pak land is sort of like Saudi. Right now we have to keep the lid on it, distasteful as that may be, cause we can't juggle that many balls.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-04 17:06|| 2007-11-04 17:06|| Front Page Top

#18 NS, I was too harsh, and I apologize for the juvenile jab (still pissed off from my Chargers' non-appearance at MN), however, the Chinese have been making entreaties for Port concessions in Pak, I don't think this helps them, short or long-term

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-04 17:14|| 2007-11-04 17:14|| Front Page Top

#19 Frank, I don't blame you for being ticked. I sure am. It's a helluva spot you've got us in Ollie.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-04 17:16|| 2007-11-04 17:16|| Front Page Top

#20 I concur with NS's albeit grim scenario. The scenario of radical Islam with access to nuclear weapons ranks as one of the very worst possible. Equally if not more revolting is how most of the Western world calmly accepts such a repellent notion.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-04 18:38|| 2007-11-04 18:38|| Front Page Top

#21 john frum's observation of the real Pak troops on the Indian border is what concerns me. He is more concerned about playing the great game with India, while the interior of Pak is rotting out before our eyes.

I think that Pak is going to crater, rapidly or slowly remains to be seen, but it will continue on its downhill slide into anarchy.

This is going to get real ugly, and there will be serious chain reactions.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-11-04 19:22|| 2007-11-04 19:22|| Front Page Top

#22 the "he" in the above comment meant Musharraf. PIMF

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2007-11-04 19:23|| 2007-11-04 19:23|| Front Page Top

#23 Reported on NPR this afternoon: our military leaders do not want funds for the Pakistani army jeopardized during the current emergency. Secretary Rice wants General Musharref to set new elections as soon as possible. It appears Nimble Spemble's cynical view is more realistic than my hopeful view yesterday.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-11-04 20:41|| 2007-11-04 20:41|| Front Page Top

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