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2008-06-22 Home Front Economy

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Posted by Steve White 2008-06-22 12:32|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 How about instead of counting their big dollars before they design and buiold the vehicle they discuss how they will build a faster, more dependable, and IED resistant vehicle to keep our young men and women alive in combat.

Posted by 49 Pan 2008-06-22 14:07|| 2008-06-22 14:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Spell check, spell check.

Posted by 49 Pan 2008-06-22 14:08|| 2008-06-22 14:08|| Front Page Top

#3 That's ok, 49 Pan - we got the message. Right on! Too much government contracting has become a huge game of "how much can we get?", rather than "What kind of first-class equipment can we supply at a reasonable price?". We're going to hell as a nation because too many "citizens" want everything they can get from the government for the least they can return in support. Our parents' generation actually fought for freedom. Today's generation leaves that to the "redneck rubes that don't know any better, or the failures from our public school system". The average person after three years in the military is more mature than most collage graduates, and many are better educated in reality.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-06-22 14:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-06-22 14:51|| Front Page Top

#4 ..or the failures from our public school system'.

...or those who escaped Ritalin induced lobotomies in our failed public school system.

As we say - fixed it for you :)

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-06-22 14:58|| 2008-06-22 14:58|| Front Page Top

#5 The diesel-electric is pretty interesting. I can swinging that to a mutli-fuel engine or a fuel cell in the future, all without a redesign.

Plus it could serve as an in-place generator when not mobile. Directed energy weapons, some of those sonic crowd control things, etc.

Question is can they get something like that which will acheive proper power/weight ratios? If so, this will be a pretty revolutionary vehicle.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-22 15:28|| 2008-06-22 15:28|| Front Page Top

#6 If you used a composite body instead of old timey steel it would prolly be pretty easy to get the power to weight ration just right.

Posted by T\ 2008-06-22 16:31|| 2008-06-22 16:31|| Front Page Top

#7 If you used a composite body instead of old timey steel it would prolly be pretty easy to get the power to weight ration just right.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-06-22 16:31|| 2008-06-22 16:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Make it radiologically protected so it can drive through areas that Muslims once called theirs.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-06-22 16:33|| 2008-06-22 16:33|| Front Page Top

#9 BP, the surviving ones will still claim it, even if it isn't theirs. They claim everything else.

All that glassed-over sand will just become the 999,999th Most Holy Place in Islam.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2008-06-22 17:07|| fots.cdgroup.org]">[fots.cdgroup.org] 2008-06-22 17:07|| Front Page Top

#10 How about instead of counting their big dollars before they design and buiold the vehicle they discuss how they will build a faster, more dependable, and IED resistant vehicle to keep our young men and women alive in combat.

It's the Chicago Tribune. The attitude is 'look at how much money Illinois could make from the military-industrial-complex-usually-reviled-by-us'.

The survivability aspect doesn't get mentioned until the ninth paragraph.

Too much government contracting has become a huge game of 'how much can we get?', rather than 'What kind of first-class equipment can we supply at a reasonable price?'.

You can thank a combination of politics, the legal system and industrial consolidation for that.

Notice that many of these companies are teaming up with other corporations. Not because they can build a new vehicle, but because they are experts in managing defense contracts.

When the government issues a few, long-term, highly politicized, long-term contracts fraught with legal pitfalls to a low-population defense industry, would you expect the price to be reasonable?

Posted by Pappy 2008-06-22 17:43|| 2008-06-22 17:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Bantum Motors, where are you when we need you?

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-06-22 19:18|| 2008-06-22 19:18|| Front Page Top

#12 "Showing its age" > COMPARED TO WHAT, the 0.45-cal. 1911, BAR, the 105, 120, 155, the LAW, DRAGON, HUEY, COBRA, M113 Series, ......
.....@etc. + OH I DUNNO, the JEEP [WW2-Cold War]???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-06-22 19:24|| 2008-06-22 19:24|| Front Page Top

#13 I saw some of the purported sepcs for the diesel electric. Each wheel individually driven, each can have up to max power availble to it.

Oshkosh is building the body and drives, NG is bringing in submarine guys for diesel electric. Has someone from Israel alledgedly working armor, and some working on amphib/fording capability.

No battery storage though. Weight. But it woudl be kinda cool to have one of those with batteries that will run the drives for, say 15 minutes, dead silent.

All kinds of tactical advantages I can think of.

If nothing else, it will be among the most unique vehicles there in that it brings generation power wherever it goes. Big advantage there for command post vehicles, as well as FBO.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-22 21:34|| 2008-06-22 21:34|| Front Page Top

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