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2008-12-02 Iraq

Reports of widespread mistreatment and torture of detainees in Iraqi custody

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-12-02 09:03|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Saddam managed to avoid overcrowding the prisons.

Posted by Glenmore 2008-12-02 10:37|| 2008-12-02 10:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah, but you can't hardly dig a hole big enough to plant a tree without running into an old friend you haven't seen in a few years.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-12-02 11:14|| 2008-12-02 11:14|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, at least it's not us doing it. It's just Middle Easterners following their cultural norms.

Posted by Frozen Al 2008-12-02 12:41|| 2008-12-02 12:41|| Front Page Top

#4 http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/2008/02/the-dungeon-of.php

Posted by Plastic Snoopy 2008-12-02 15:58|| 2008-12-02 15:58|| Front Page Top

#5 UN agency feeling safe enough to be present thanks to US military power and sacrifice: check

UN agency singling out troubling conditions in a former dictatorship that only has a chance at a more civilized/open society thanks to US military power and sacrifice: check

Logically, I don't believe there's such a thing as "moral authority" - the whole point of morality is that it's above and outside individuals or organizations made up of individuals. Moral principles stand alone and can be applied logically to facts to yield judgments, and nobody has superior ability to identify the principles (though demonstrated ability to apply logical reasoning obviously varies substantially).

(end of geeky rumination on moral authority)

But .....

If there's anything like "moral authority" to judge and criticize Iraqi prison conditions and judicial processes, it is possessed solely by the US.

Note also the disingenuous slander that never dies: suspects are "held without trial" indefinitely (outrageous!) - because in fact they are NOT part of a normal judicial process, but detainees in a war emergency situation where normal civil judicial processes are neither feasible nor effective.

Posted by Verlaine 2008-12-02 20:00|| 2008-12-02 20:00|| Front Page Top

#6 exactamundo, Verlaine. The biggest mistake our internal and external ~~traitors~~ opponents have made is to apply criminal law protection to those who have neither earned nor deserve that distinction. Lawfare will be the undoing of us or the death of the opposition when the backlash hits. I expect the latter as they overreach and a "releasee" goes on a killing spree here at home

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-12-02 20:15|| 2008-12-02 20:15|| Front Page Top

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