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2010-11-30 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Grunter 2010-11-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 And the silence punctuated by a single gulp from Kim Jong Ill was heard 'round the world.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-30 00:55|| 2010-11-30 00:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Iff you can't trust PENGUIN-ROASTING, LAID-BACK, AMISH POLAR BEARS IN COOL SUNGLASSES, BEER, TV + IPADS, ETC. WHAT CAN YE TRUST?

The Mother-to-be of OWG-NWO thought she was having an easy single birth but instead suddenly discovered she's OCTOMOM-OR-WORSE.

Iff a UNIFIED KOREAS = COLD WAR EAST-WEST GERMANY, we must remember that prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall + 1991 the then-USSR had built up MASSIVE MIL, NUCLEAR ARSENAL + STATE ECONOMY TO COMPETE AGZ THE US-NATO.

CHINA'S ARSENALS + ECON, while potent + competitive, WERE NOWHERE NEAR THE LEVELS OF THE COLD-WAR USSR.

The question is whether Chin can accept AMERS + EUROS + RUSSIANS + JAPANESE + INDIANS + MUSLIMS, etals. IN A NEWLY UNIFIED, LIKELY WESTERN DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST = NON/ANTI-COMMIE, NOT-DOMINATED-BY-BEIJING CAPITALIST KOREA, as ALLY + OCCASIONAL ANTAGONIST???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-11-30 00:55|| 2010-11-30 00:55|| Front Page Top

#3 "Here, you take the basket case"?

I think not. Have fun with your mad dog, Slick.
Let me know if you need it shot.

Posted by mojo 2010-11-30 01:03|| 2010-11-30 01:03|| Front Page Top

#4 TOPIX > WIKILEAKS CABLES: CHINA DOUBTFUL OF NORTH KOREA AS ALLY.

ARTIC = NORTH KOREA'S ECONOMY may had DE FACTO ALREADY COLLAPSED, wid TOTAL NATIONAL/STATE COLLAPSE POSSIBLE TO OCCUR WIDIN 2-3 YEARS [2012-2013]???

* ALso from TOPIX > NORTH KOREA CONFIRMS URANIUM ENRICHMENT PROGRAM AMID TENSIONS. Reveals brand-spanking new HEU ENFAC, complete wid MILYUHNS + DILYUHNS = 000's OF WORKING CENTRIFUGES.

* TOPIX/GUARDIAN.UK > [Wikileaks Docs] US EMBASSY CABLES: NORTH KOREA SITUATION IN CHAOS. DPRK Govt-State-Econ.

More + more ORDINARY NORKIES, OFFICIALS are defecting every year, espec into CHINA, to escape MASS STARVATION/FAMINE CONDITIONS INSIDE DPRK: + KIM JONG-UN'S SUCCESSION TO POWER VEE BIG DADDY-O KIM JONG-IL IS "NOT ALL THAT GUARANTEED"???

So to speak.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-11-30 02:08|| 2010-11-30 02:08|| Front Page Top

#5 OOOOOOPPPSIES, forgot WIKILEAKS DOCS = KIM JONG-IL'S HEALTH also appears to be PREMATURELY STARTING TO FAIL.

ABOVE + ARTIC read, DPRK ARMY SUPPORT OF KIM JONG-IL + HEIR IS CRACKING = NOT GUARANTEED.

IOW, PREMATURE DEATH OF KIM JONG-IL +
DUBIOUS/CONTESTED/PROBLEMATIC SUCCESSION = KIM FAMILY MAY NOT BE IN POWER ANYMORE CIRCA 2012-2013 = NOT TOO MUCH LONGER???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-11-30 02:16|| 2010-11-30 02:16|| Front Page Top

#6 From China's point of view.... is there any justifiable reason for the U.S. to have a base in Korea post unification?

Posted by AuburnTom 2010-11-30 11:44|| 2010-11-30 11:44|| Front Page Top

#7 ...a Military Assistance Group (MAG) to keep the flow of American military tech flowing US>Korea [formerly known as SK]>China.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-11-30 12:08|| 2010-11-30 12:08|| Front Page Top

#8 They have other ways to keep the military tech flowing. I suspect they'd rather remove US influence and make Korea either neutral or their own little buddy.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-11-30 16:40|| 2010-11-30 16:40|| Front Page Top

#9 VARIOUS NETTERS + MOI > CHINA is unlikely to accept a Unified Korea unless Chin is granted a large degree of TRADE, ETC. NATIONAL ACCESS; + that US, RUSS, JAPANESE + NATO Milfors are NOT ALLOWED TO SET UP ANYWHERE IN SAME + perhaps TAIWAN + NO NUCWEAPS FOR JAPAN + SOKOR + TAIWAN.

This latter entails that CHIN is likely to demand the formal disestablishment + withdrawal of ANY + ALL USFK MIL ASSETS, + LIKELY ALSO DITTO FOR USFJ.

IOW, "UNIFIED KOREAS" > exchange for WARM-WATER PORTS = PORTS RIGHTS IN JAPAN + SOKOR + TAIWAN FOR CHINA???

That sound you're hearing is NIPPON + SEOUL + TAIWAN BITING THEIR NAILS IN UNCERTAINTY.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-11-30 23:00|| NA 2010-11-30 23:00|| Front Page Top

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