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2011-01-06 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Outrage Ensues After Pope Declares God Created Universe

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-01-06 15:20|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Um... he's the Pope. What did the 'outragers' THINK he was going to say?

Posted by Free Radical 2011-01-06 17:06|| 2011-01-06 17:06|| Front Page Top

#2 When the astronomers can see before the Big Bang, then we can have discussions about first causes and first causers. Until then, the theologians and the atheists are basing their arguments on faith in something vs. faith in nothing, not on facts.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-01-06 17:09|| 2011-01-06 17:09|| Front Page Top

#3 I, for one, am OUTRAGED that the pope did not finally admit that universe erupted from that seething vortex of madness, menace and perversion- the mind of the dead and dreaming CTHULHU!

Posted by The Mad Arab Abdul Alhazred 2011-01-06 17:17|| 2011-01-06 17:17|| Front Page Top

#4 #2 -- since time started with the Big Bang, talking about a 'before' time in that context is equivalent to talking about nothing. It's beyond human reason and calculation. The whole discussion is about faith anyway. And outrage.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-01-06 17:33|| 2011-01-06 17:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Patient: Doc, I think I might have delusions of grandeur.

Shrink: OK, let's start in the beginning.

Patient: In the beginning, I created the heavens and the earth.

Posted by Kojo Shomock8299 2011-01-06 18:47|| 2011-01-06 18:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Pope reaffirms Catholic doctrine - no surprise there.

Posted by CincinnatusChili 2011-01-06 19:56|| 2011-01-06 19:56|| Front Page Top

#7 and the materials for the Big Bang came from where?

ultimately you come back to an Original Source. I have a name for him. Liberals and Atheists don't. Guess I'm the stoopid one

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-06 20:26|| 2011-01-06 20:26|| Front Page Top

#8 I have always been struck by the similarities between the Big Bang theory and the story in Genesis. They are both creation myths told in a different language. Perhaps if the shepherds of ancient Palestine had a better grasp of quantum mechanics and astrophysics, there would not be so much conflict.

Really smart physics guy, Steven Weinberg, has a very readable book about the Big Bang called "The First Three Minutes". In the intro, he admits it really should be called "The First 2 Minutes, 59 Seconds and change" because not only do we not know how the whole mess got started, but from the physics point of view, we simply cannot since that information was lost in the resulting poof.

Posted by SteveS 2011-01-06 20:47|| 2011-01-06 20:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Coming from a conservative religious up bringing, the Creator of time and matter is not made up of time and matter. That is what is difficult to for one to get thier mind around. The same as a something such as a car designed and manufactured by a person does not begin to tell all there is to know of that machine's creator.

Posted by Zebulon Slusort4264 2011-01-06 21:01|| 2011-01-06 21:01|| Front Page Top

#10 So only by faith alone, one is able to accept such a grandeur possibility.

Posted by Zebulon Slusort4264 2011-01-06 21:12|| 2011-01-06 21:12|| Front Page Top

#11 nice point Zebulon. There has to be an origin

Posted by Frank G 2011-01-06 21:38|| 2011-01-06 21:38|| Front Page Top

#12 I majored in science in college, my brother is (literally) a rocket scientist, and we will both tell you that the Big Bang theory does not preclude a diety.

I've never understood why people say the two can't co-exist, unless they just want be atheists.

(And just so we're clear, I'm not religious - just logical.)

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-01-06 21:48|| 2011-01-06 21:48|| Front Page Top

#13 What Barbara said. Except I'm not related to any rocket scientists that I'm aware of. ;-)

Being an atheist is also a matter of faith, pending individual post-death proof one way or another. But even once we know how the Big Bang came to occur, that still does not address why. Science and religion ask different questions -- and both have their uses.

Posted by trailing wife 2011-01-06 23:31|| 2011-01-06 23:31|| Front Page Top

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