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2013-03-18 Home Front: Culture Wars

Should voters have to prove citizenship to register?

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Posted by Glomoper Phuger4189 2013-03-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 No!

All that should be required is a Social Security check. Your addy and all pertinent residential info is already in the Social Security system. If you have paid or contributed 40 quarters, or are the spouse of someone who has - you are good to go.

Proof enough for me. :-)

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-18 04:15|| 2013-03-18 04:15|| Front Page Top

#2 And a pulse.

Former Arizona Senate President Russell Pearce, a leading Republican proponent of Proposition 200, strongly disputed claims that Arizona doesn't have voter fraud problems. "They turn a blind eye," Pearce said of the state's election officials.
Example:
But Karen Osborne, elections director for Maricopa County, where nearly 60 percent of Arizona's voters live, said voter fraud is rare, and even rarer among illegal immigrants.
"That just does not seem to be an issue," Osborne said of the claim that illegal immigrants are voting. "They did not want to come out of the shadows. They don't want to be involved with the government."

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-03-18 04:42|| 2013-03-18 04:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Failing #1 above, a copy of your US Military ID card or DD Form-214 with 'Character of service' annotated as "honorable" and a valid driver's license will suffice.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-18 05:42|| 2013-03-18 05:42|| Front Page Top

#4 "They did not want to come out of the shadows. They don't want to be involved with the government."

...except to register the kids at school [and free lunch program], show up at the emergency room [usually a university or state operation since most private facilities have closed or become 'urgent care' centers to avoid bankruptcy driven by the federal 'must provide service mandate'], to get food stamps, etc, etc, etc.

Should voters have to prove citizenship to register

How about setting up a TSA booth to go through before entering the election facility?

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-03-18 09:19|| 2013-03-18 09:19|| Front Page Top

#5 Third world foreigners of all types allowed in to support third world style politicians to determine Americas political future is what the entire mess is all about. They get the spoils.

Posted by Dino Shomomp7692 2013-03-18 10:19|| 2013-03-18 10:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Yes, there should be some proof that you are who you say you are. Yes, there are legal requirements like citizenship, non-felon status, etc.

Also, they should purge the voter registration records after each presidential election and make you re-register.

If you vote means anything at all, then it is worth putting minimal procedures in place to protect it. I have to renew my bloody driver's license every ten years. Why not my voter registration every 4?

Posted by Iblis 2013-03-18 11:02|| 2013-03-18 11:02|| Front Page Top

#7 Is the pope Catholic?

Yes. I'm happy to report that he is.

Yes.

Our politicians are bad enough as it is. The last thing we need is millions of illegal aliens skewing our elections in favor politicians like Barack Obama.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-03-18 11:25|| 2013-03-18 11:25|| Front Page Top

#8 In Europe nobody would even think to ask.

In France you need a voter card and an ID (with photo) to vote. In order to get the voter card you need to prove you are a citizen.

Posted by JFM 2013-03-18 11:26|| 2013-03-18 11:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Our politicians are bad enough as it is. The last thing we need is millions of illegal aliens skewing our elections in favor politicians like Barack Obama. Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305

A bit too late for course correction on that one.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-18 11:31|| 2013-03-18 11:31|| Front Page Top

#10 In France you need a voter card and an ID (with photo) to vote.

And the Lightbringer does want us to be more like Europe, right?

Posted by Glenmore 2013-03-18 12:37|| 2013-03-18 12:37|| Front Page Top

#11 ...actually, more like Chicago.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-03-18 13:51|| 2013-03-18 13:51|| Front Page Top

#12 "help spend a couple of trillion dollars, no background check needed!"

/Democrat "thinking"

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-03-18 14:25|| 2013-03-18 14:25|| Front Page Top

#13 A bit too late for course correction on that one.

Yep. And that's why nobody will ever have to prove anything to vote in our elections.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-03-18 14:26|| 2013-03-18 14:26|| Front Page Top

#14 I agree with Iblis 100%. Purge the rolls and force everyone to reregister and ensure there is a deadline at least a year in advance. If you can't be bothered by then you don't deserve to vote.

I love absentee voting but I'd dump that as well. Allow anyone to fill out a ballot ahead of time but it has to be deposited in a booth on the day (with ID requirements and everything).

To much fraud slips by because of this convenience.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-03-18 14:57|| 2013-03-18 14:57|| Front Page Top

#15 And felony with serious time for anyone caught of fraud. It's not a game and we shouldn't treat it as such.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-03-18 14:58|| 2013-03-18 14:58|| Front Page Top

#16 YES, Dammit, we have no time for Phonies.

If you're caught Your voting privileges are revoked.

That means NO VOTING, EVER.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-03-18 15:13|| 2013-03-18 15:13|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm with rjschwarz and Iblis

I've often said make it so that you *must* re-register *in person* with positive ID every 4 years. No motor voter, no GOTY, if they are lazy to get off their fat ass every 4 years then they are obviously too lazy to research the issues and will do far more harm than good. The only exception would be for someone physically unable to appear at the country clerk's office personally - and in that case an election official (no volunteers) will go to them.

And the price for unearned federal assistance (i.e. Welfare) is your right to vote. If you have been on welfare for the previous year - you can't simply vote. No - you can't vote yourself more money.

And a lifetime ban on any voting if you are caught comittiting fraud. Lifetime ban on any public office if an elected official is involved in voter fraud.

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-03-18 16:03|| 2013-03-18 16:03|| Front Page Top

#18 Lifetime ban on any public office if an elected official is involved in voter fraud.

Elected, appointed, or contracted.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-03-18 16:54|| 2013-03-18 16:54|| Front Page Top

#19 Taxocracy, one unit of tax extorted = one vote unit.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-03-18 19:30|| 2013-03-18 19:30|| Front Page Top

#20 By most accounts there are 11-22.0Milyuhn illegals in the US, the majority or bulk of which are likely to vote DemoLeft + apply for Fed-State public benefits widout even being demanded or having to change their illlegal status to legal.

AS PER OWG-NWO + NAU 2015, + TRANS-ATLANTIC UNION + TRANS-PACIFIC UNION, ETC. THE NUMBERS WILL ONLY GET WORSE GIVEN ...

> DESIRE FOR THE US UNDER OWG + NAU, ETC. TO BE A [unofficial] "BORDERLESS" COUNTRY WHERE MILYUHNS OR SCORES OF MILYUHNS OF FOREIGN WORKERS WILL BE INVITED IN TO LIVE + WORK, TO INCLUD REMITTING $$$ BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN.

> NO SERIOUS EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE GOP-DEMS TO TRULY SECURE OUR BORDERS, OR CLOSE LOOPHOLES IN IMMIGRATION + CRIMINAL TRAFFICKING.

The figure of 11-22 milyuhn illegals TODAY will be seen as "the good ole'days" when the numbers of illegals were L-O-W compared to post-2015 OWG NAU, etc suborned Amerika.

US FEDERAL = STATE SOCIALISM = NEW "SOVEREIGNTY",
+ prolly safe to say also the NEW "NATIONAL" = LIMITED GLOBAL/GLOBALIST "ECONOMY"???

SPACE "ECONOMY"???

ANTI-NATIONALIST, ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-ELECTORAL/VOTER, ANTI-PERSONALTY, ANTI-CIVIL LIBERTIES/FREEDOM ... ... ...@.

Voter Registration or Gun Control,etc. IMO it all ultimately comes down to the above.

You know - the "WILL OF THE PEOPLE"!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-03-18 19:53|| 2013-03-18 19:53|| Front Page Top

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