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2014-12-28 Home Front: Culture Wars

Where are my Reparations? The slaves that time forgot

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Posted by Hupineger Glomomp7489 2014-12-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Reparations? Have to buy off half of Boston at a minimum, and most police and fire in the east coast cities.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-28 00:55|| 2014-12-28 00:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Try this on for size The English trade in Irish Slaves in the New World

White and Black Slaves in the Sugar Plantations of Barbados. None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.

The first slaves imported into the American colonies were 100 White children. They arrived during Easter, 1619, four months before the arrival of a the first shipment of Black slaves.Mainstream histories refer to these laborers as indentured servants, not slaves, because many agreed to work for a set period of time in exchange for land and rights. Yet in reality, indenture was enslavement, since slavery applies to any person who is bought and sold, chained and abused, whether for a decade or a lifetime. Many white people died long before their indenture ended or found that no court would back them when their owners failed to deliver on promises.

In the 17th Century, from 1600 until 1699, there were many more Irish sold as slaves than Africans

Tens of thousands of convicts, beggars, homeless children and other undesirable English, Scottish, and Irish lower class were transported to America against their will to the Americas on slave ships.

You read that right: Slave ships.

References: John P. Prendergast, The Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland, Dublin, 1865

Thomas Addis Emmet, Ireland Under English Rule, NY & London,Putnam, 1903

Prendergast, The Conwellian Settlment of Ireland

Richard Ligon, A True and Exact History of Barbadoes, London, Cass, 1657, reprinted 1976

Sean O’Callaghan, To Hell or Barbados: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ireland, (Dingle, Ireland: Brandon, 2001)

James F. Cavanaugh, Clan Chief Herald

For Mather’s account of the case, see Cotton Mather, Memorable Providences, Relating ToWitchcrafts And Possessions (1689)

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-28 01:03|| 2014-12-28 01:03|| Front Page Top

#3 This throws a monkey wrench into the reparations mantra, eh?

Posted by OldSpook 2014-12-28 01:05|| 2014-12-28 01:05|| Front Page Top

#4 But the numbers of the Irish were much smaller. They soon gravitated toward local gov't jobs, such as law enforcement and fire departments...... oh wait !

Posted by Besoeker 2014-12-28 04:47|| 2014-12-28 04:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, and just remember "...to the shores of Tripoli". While the captain and passengers of a pirated ship were ransomed, the average seaman was just another sell in the African slave market.

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-12-28 08:50|| 2014-12-28 08:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Irish slavery gave way to "indentured servitude." The Irish could come here and work for a given number of years and then earn their way out of servitude. My great grandfather did just that in the early 1800s. He worked for a time in America to earn his freedom. His wife and children stayed in Ireland to come later. Unfortunately, his two girls died in Ireland before they could get here. His wife did make it here. They were grateful to be here.

The African-Americans should quit whining and get on with life. Quit being victims.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-28 09:19|| 2014-12-28 09:19|| Front Page Top

#7 40 acres and a mule

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