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Patches the Horse
Posted by: Whasing Graimble3152 || 03/08/2006 11:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [273 views] Top|| File under:

The Unit. Heh.
Saw it.

• 13 Heads Roll - none literally - not counting Laser Guided Munition Hit and Gratuitous Mercedescide... figure a Driver, Henchman, and Evil Arms Dealer there, so mebbe 16 Deaders Total.

• All Bad Guys Die. All Good Guys Live.

• No Breasts.

• Gratuitous Interagency Turf Queenery.

• Gratuitous Hollyweird Drama Queenery.

• Gratuitous Power Abusery, Roguery and Back-Stabbery.

• Gratuitous New Guyery With The Right Stuff.

• Gratuitous Rebellious Wife Mongery.

• Gratuitous Mirror Murdery -- Deeply Humanizing -- Plus Comic Relief. Hollyweird Deft, LOL.

• Waay Low-Rent Command Center.

• Lotsa Damned Commercials.

• Really Cute Kid Mongery Almost Saves Non-Action Scenery.

Got the Fibbies right, heh. Always wanted one of those spiffy blue windblazers with the BIG yellow lettering, though. Betcha I could crash concerts 'n stuff with one. Stun baton would assist where needed.

Requesting comments on this or any other Hollyweirdery on troops, the military, WoT, Fibbery, whatevery.

Open Threadery. Bitchery welcome, heh.
Posted by: .com || 03/08/2006 01:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [391 views] Top|| File under:

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Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 3:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Fuck off troll.

I tried engaging your sorry halfwit ass once. You didn't have the decency to respond to a considered post directed to you - though you were still around afterwards, spouting more of your pointless brain farts. And this time you're an off-topic asshole troll. Fuck off.
Posted by: .com || 03/08/2006 4:11 Comments || Top||

#3  what is it a film or something - im kinda intrigued as to what it is - maybe im just thick lol. i'm gonna go trawling the net for it! :)
Posted by: ShepUK || 03/08/2006 4:50 Comments || Top||

#4  oh it looks quite good ill try and DL that today
Posted by: ShepUK || 03/08/2006 4:52 Comments || Top||

#5  LINKY? Or Shaawingee?

maybe i justa dontgit it?
Posted by: RD || 03/08/2006 5:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Apologies to those who didn't see it... It was a TV show that premiered last night. An article on it ran here last Wednesday... details there explain, I think.
Posted by: .com || 03/08/2006 5:19 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 6:33 Comments || Top||

#8  I thought there was some good stuff in there. I was surprised it got past the CBS censors, what with so many Arabs getting whacked, dialog about MP5's, flaunting of posse comitatus, threatening "fibbies". All very non-PC, anti-legalistic, anti-bureaucratic. Just having Arabs as terrorists is kind of a breakthrough for Hollyweird isn't it?
Posted by: HV || 03/08/2006 7:22 Comments || Top||

#9  How was it compared to 24?
Posted by: Edgar || 03/08/2006 7:42 Comments || Top||

#10  No Breasts.

Deal breaker. Even "Sleeper Cell" has had breasteses.

OK, it's on a pay cable channel, but...

Watching "Sleeper Cell" is like reading the last few years of Rantburg through a funhouse mirror. One episode was built around a Yemeni imam who worked to teach jihadis the error of their ways, beginning his instruction with them by saying "what is the greatest jihad?" The terrs were so freaked by the guy they killed him up-close-and-personal in the local mosque -- and put their whole plot at risk because of it. The episode ended with another Yemeni imam walking into a prison cell and repeating the "what is the greatest jihad?" question. Message: terrorism really, really is a perversion of Islam, pinky swear, and there are people working against it out there, really.

The week I saw that episode, we learned that the head of the real-world program that inspired their character was in charge of the mosque from which a tunnel was dug into the prison that was holding the jihadis.

The latest episode had the (LA-based) jihadis testing phosgene on a dozen dogs, like the AQ associates in Iraq did.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/08/2006 8:00 Comments || Top||

#11  It was a fun and refreshingly non-PC romp. Got some technical details wrong...but those can be easily overlooked because the specwar guys are obviously the good guys. When was the last time you saw something come out of Hollywood where an American character, good guy, caps a jihadi as he screams Allahu Akbar in primetime? Happened last night on CBS. Oh yeah... no anguish over it afterwards.
Posted by: Fodamage || 03/08/2006 8:22 Comments || Top||

#12  an American character, good guy, caps a jihadi as he screams Allahu Akbar in primetime. Oh yeah... no anguish over it afterwards.

The mookies should be watching the American living room. If shows like this and 24 draw big audience, the pols will figure out that there is a substantial population prepared to prosecute a much more muscular war on "terrorism".
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/08/2006 8:53 Comments || Top||

#13  I saw it and liked it. The bad guy hijackers were obvious middle-eastern types. The good guys whacked 'em. A nice little tale of good and evil right out of the daily news. Refreshingly non-PC for broadcast tv. The murdered passenger falling to the pavement reminded me of the Navy Seal, Robert Stethem, the Paleos killed during one of their hijackings. The *bleep*ers.

Yeah, it could have used some boobage, but what can't? The gratuitous gratuitousness has already been noted by .com. I give it a thumbs up, so far.
Posted by: SteveS || 03/08/2006 9:01 Comments || Top||

#14  A little over the top in some areas, and funny as hell in others to people who "have the T-Shirt".

But suprisingly straight up and saying who the baddies were in that episode, because many times is its that black and white with no grey. Whats more surprising is that its made by those people on the Left Coast.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/08/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#15  I enjoyed the show. And a few things impressed me:

> The baddies weren't handled as just stupid zealots ... it appeared they had done their planning, with an on-ground spotting crew, the way the plane was wired, and how they expected to draw as much media attention as possible before blowing things up.

> The soldiers (those from The Unit, and the rangers they recruited on-site) came off as smart, direct, well-trained, and very, very capable.

> I actually liked he scenes about the wives ... a nice vehicle for two things: 1- introduce the viewer (and the "new guy's wife") into understanding a bit more about The Unit itself, and 2- show the impact of these guys' work on the folks who support them

Now, I was a little disappointed that their boss didn't morph into a silvery blob and become other people throughout the show ... but maybe I just watch too many movies!! ;-)
Posted by: ExtremeModerate || 03/08/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#16  Sort of off-topic but I'm writing a screenplay and have a bunch of questions about how the FBI works on an investigation. If anyone here has such knowledge and would care to exchange a few emails offline I'd be much obliged.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 03/08/2006 10:40 Comments || Top||

#17  I saw it and completely enjoyed it. During this morning's AWGSG (Angry White Guy Support Group) at my Federal job (non-WoT related), we all discussed and enjoyed it. In fact, one guy (former chopper mechanic in 'Nam) said "God, I pray we have guys like that in real life."

Was good enough to keep my wife involved (she liked the new guy's wife's drama) and she has recently becomed hooked on 24. Good non-P.C. stuff in there. While discussing this morning, we came upon some issues with CBS and the MSM...(1) there's a constant battle there (I'm sure) between there "business dept." who wants to make money and their News-heads, who can't help but put their liberal views into the "news." (2) the business side of the house must be beginning to wake up and win this struggle, with CBS being the home of shows like this one (The Unit), NCIS, formerly JAG and other military shows (in addition to the CSI series), but also their news side being one of the most liberal.

Unlike .com (unless he was being his usual sarcastic self), I for one applaud the lack of gratituitousness. More action, less sex in my book. Of course, they won't be able to keep it out of the story-line completely, but I watch shows like that for the "blow up the baddies" side, not the sex side!
Posted by: BA || 03/08/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#18  BTW, mods, my AWGSG comment is our lil' name for our coffee club to get through the P.C./idiocy of the day here at work. Please no sink-trapping.
Posted by: BA || 03/08/2006 10:57 Comments || Top||

#19  The AWGSG is okay as long as your organization maintains the equivalent Angry Colored Guy Support Group, the Angry Hispanic Guys Support Group (the Mildly Irritated Hispanic Guys Support Group does not count!), Native American and/or Esquimeaux Guy Support Group, Asian-Pacific Islander Support Group, and Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transgendered-Hermaphroditic Support Group, and you've filled out the form 768. You did fill out the Form 768, didn't you?
Posted by: Fred || 03/08/2006 14:46 Comments || Top||

#20  Im still bummed out about Edgar, myself.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 03/08/2006 15:03 Comments || Top||

#21  Ummm, yeah, Fred, I filled it out. The way I figure, all of those groups already get a "history" MONTH (or PRIDE month in the case of GLBT groupies), so why can't we have just a AWGSG (who, BTW, doesn't even get a month!).

True story...the original founders here of the AWGSG were 2 vets and one very angry German. One of the Vets, who served in Vietnam, just mentioned the term Angry White Guy Support Group when someone NOT in the group was in our break room getting coffee. Next thing he knows, he's being hauled before our Deputy Administrator here in Atlanta to explain this AWGSG and what were it's goals. When he explained it was just a joking term of art (flying in the face of P.C. Idiocy that goes on around here which, BTW, has NOTHING to do with our mission), the Dept. Admins. finally relaxed, LOL!
Posted by: BA || 03/08/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#22  And, yes, LH, I'm bummed about Edgar myself, lol!
Posted by: BA || 03/08/2006 15:30 Comments || Top||

#23  Moderators: "Open threadery welcome," would be taken as an invitation for off-topic material. Isn't use of the "F" word be offensive here?
Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#24  LISTEN TO DOGS; the only thing that gets censored here is non-jingoisticrepublicanbushspeak.
Posted by: bk || 03/08/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#25  LOL! bk always with the funny DUI.
Posted by: 6 || 03/08/2006 17:03 Comments || Top||

#26  BK:
Okay: no open threads! Now I know, but how do you read Mr.com's invitation: "Open Threadery. Bitchery welcome, heh"? Contrary to his "F" word attack, I have never insulted Mr.com but I apologize anyway to make him feel like...dancing.
Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#27  have a bunch of questions about how the FBI works on an investigation.

Perhaps you can become the subject of one with your screenplay and you can learn about it first hand. Otherwise you might want to watch the FBI Files on Discovery.
Posted by: 2b || 03/08/2006 18:26 Comments || Top||

#28  Moderators: "Open threadery welcome," would be taken as an invitation for off-topic material.

'Open threadery' here means feel free to comment on the topic and 'topic drift' is okay. The key word is 'drift' - not "Gee look at this cow!" when the topic is semi-automatic weaponry (unless in reference to cows-with-guns).

Isn't use of the "F" word be offensive here?

Depends.... on the writer, the situation, the topic or lack thereof...
Posted by: Pappy || 03/08/2006 22:30 Comments || Top||

#29  "Requesting comments on this or any other Hollyweirdery on troops, the military, WoT, Fibbery, whatevery."

Seems as though the topic was specifically defined just above your carefully plucked phrase, Doggy. Seems as if it was defined loosely enough to stimulate comparison between this show and other, similar, Hoolywood efforts portraying the military. Since he created the thread, put it on the Opinion page, and did so obviously for an expressed purpose and you chose to ignore it, that you have missed the point.

I don't see what the problem is, other than you.

Would you prefer other F words?

Fool seems to fit.
Posted by: Flomoting Ebbeanter8112 || 03/08/2006 23:05 Comments || Top||

#30  What about between-the-lines material? JTA News from Israel reports:

"NATO spy planes conducted an exercise in Israel, apparently as a signal to Iran.
“We’ve had NATO AWACS deployed to do some demonstrations in Israel, and we do have an active dialogue with the Israeli defense force in terms of interoperability, and particularly as it regards the security of the Mediterranean basin at sea,” Gen. James Jones, the U.S. general who is the supreme allied commander in Europe, said Tuesday in Senate testimony."

A likely story. I say: after the cartoon jihad, the Euros started hearing Iran's "death to__" chants, decided to to put "organization" back in NATO. NATO's "collective security" provision (article 5) is still operative, in reference to US security interests, post 9-11. Secret diplomacy aimed at a wider interest, is probable. I see: dead people.

Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 3:48 Comments || Top||

#31  Dunno, but cut and paste always works. Check out this new weapon:

Funny letter to Ahmadinutbar:

N'Orleans, black, white, or cream?:

I be gots to goes.
Posted by: Listen To Dogs || 03/08/2006 6:33 Comments || Top||

The Murder of Ilan Halimi (and what it means for french jews)
I don't agree with Millière's ideas on several points, but IMHO, since I've discovered him in the french weekly "Les 4 vérités", his diagnosis of France has mostly been spot on.
By Guy Millière

How many Jews are still living in France today? Around 500,000. The number is going down year after year. Those who leave go mostly to Israel. Some of them move to Canada or to the United States. The larger part of those who stay in France are frightened and anxious. They feel they need to make escape plans for the future. "France is not safe for us anymore," one of them said on a TV show a few weeks ago.

And this was before the murder of Ilan Halimi.

This young Parisian Jew was kidnapped by a gang of thugs on January 21st and held captive for three weeks. On February 13th, early in the morning, he was found on the edge of a railway station, naked and handcuffed, his body covered with burn marks from acid and cigarettes. He had been savagely tortured and stabbed in the neck. He was not dead yet when discovered, but he died a few minutes later.

Little by little, information emerged about the crime. There were at least fifteen thugs, maybe more. They had used a girl to seduce Halimi into the trap where he was captured. They knew he was a Jew and they had chosen him for that reason. In his pocket they found the phone number of a rabbi and he was the first person they called, telling him: "We have a Jew. The family has to pay. If the family cannot pay, it will be the synagogue." In succeeding days, they called the rabbi again, howling sentences full of hatred. Later, they called the family, asking for $600,000, before lowering the price to $5,000. They spoke to the mother, to Halimi’s sisters, uncle, and father. When they were not asking for money, they were reciting suras from the Quran. In some of the conversations it was possible to hear Halimi screaming in the background. The thugs sent a videotape showing the young man naked, humiliated, handcuffed, just like on a Zarqawi videos from Iraq.

They called many times, but the police, stating later that "technical problems" kept them from tracing the calls, told the family to stop answering the phone and to stop negotiations with the kidnappers. The police also claimed that there was "no anti-Semitism involved." When the judge learned almost all the details about the case, he did not speak about anti semitism either. But as the case became news all over France, the motive became really obvious to deny any longer and the judge finally declared, "anti-Semitism is involved." Some politicians started using the word too. A ceremony was organized in the main Paris synagogue and deputies and ministers came. Jacques Chirac, who only three years ago had insisted that "anti-Semitism does not exist in France" even showed up. A protest against the hideous crime was organized a few days later, but political correctness had already won out: the protest was mostly against racism in general, not the specific pathology that had claimed Halimi’s life. "It's necessary to avoid tensions between communities," declared one of the organizers. There were some Muslims at the protest--fifteen, maybe twenty out of 30,000.

In the days since the dying Halimi was discovered, some journalists have been making ugly discoveries. The gang of thugs (they called themselves "the Barbarians") had sequestered the young man in an apartment that had been rented by the doorman of the building. The doorman knew what had been happening but did nothing. Many other residents in the building had heard a man screaming, but had decided to mind their own business instead of calling for help, even anonymously. "When you live here, you think about yourself and only about yourself," one of them said.

The screams must have been loud because the torture was especially atrocious: the thugs cut bits off the flesh of the young man, they cut his fingers and ears, they burned him with acid, and in the end poured flammable liquid on him and set him on fire.

The head of the gang, Fofana, was arrested in a brothel in Abijan, Ivory Coast. He had been able to leave France freely, without being stopped at the border. He spoke to a French TV channel while in Abijan. He was smiling at the camera and eating a good lunch. He said he was not anti-Semitic; he just wanted money (and, he added, "Jews have money.") He insisted that he had not killed anyone; to torture and to burn is not to kill. Had he any remorse? No. He was only disappointed: he had not been successful and he had not gotten any money. The future? "If the guillotine were still in use,” he smiled, “somebody would suggest that for me."

Fofana will be judged and sentenced. He will spend 10 or 15 years in jail, maybe less. Then, he will be released. He knows France's laws. He has been sent to jail 12 times (the previous time for attacking a bank and leaving a clerk severely injured), and he has been released 12 times. Before deciding not to take case, his French lawyer had started to state to the media that Fofana is a nice guy, not "capable of violence," and not a racist: "It must have been a collective moment of crazy behavior." added the lawyer. If a judge agrees that it has just been "a collective moment of crazy behavior," Fofana and the rest of the gang will not even go to jail: they will head for an insane asylum where they will be cured after a few months. Already, a number of columnists and intellectuals, in the typical French way, are starting to say the real victims of this crime are the thugs and their families.

During the last ten weeks, the people who tortured and killed Ilan Halimi had tried unsuccessfully to kidnap four other Jews in Paris. The police had descriptions of these people. They knew where these people were operating. They did nothing.

A little more than two years ago another Jew named Sebastien Sellam, was savagely killed in the eastern part of Paris. The murderer cut off his head and took out his eye globes with a fork. He came home a few minutes later saying to his family: "Now, I can go to paradise. I killed my Jew." He was a Muslim, just like most of the gang that killed Ilan Halimi. He was sent to jail, then to an insane asylum. He has been declared cured and will be out in April.

During the last couple of years, several Jewish doctors have been blackmailed and threatened in France. Some have been killed, but the "official reason" for the murders never made a connection between the fact that the victims were Jews and the killers were Muslims. During the same years, many tombs in Jewish cemeteries have been desecrated and covered with Nazi slogans. Jewish children in a number of high schools have been harassed by Muslim children, but in the end, the troublemakers have been able to stay in the high school and the only the Jewish kids have had to leave and to go study elsewhere.

This week, a teacher in Paris was brought to justice because he had told a Jewish student that he would have to be sent to "the oven" after the class (his colleagues immediately protested that the teacher is a good man and did not deserve punishment). A nurse in Strasbourg was mugged, attacked with a knife and covered with swastikas and anti-Semitic slogans because her agressors thought—incorrectly--that she was a Jew. A dozen Jewish students were mugged by supporters of the Palestinian cause on the campus of one of the main French universities. ("They looked Jewish," explained one of the muggers). Nobody has been arrested. In Sarcelles, a small town in the north of Paris, three Jews were mugged last Saturday on their way to the synagogue. Two of them are still at the hospital.

I am sad to have to say so, but it's impossible to rely on the French government to protect the Jews of France: the government has too many interests in Muslim countries. It's impossible to rely on the police because the police in France are not independent and have to do what the government asks. For the same reason, it's impossible to rely on the judicial system. It's impossible to rely on journalists to tell the whole truth because the media are infected with chic leftism.

Radical Islam is at war with civilization. A few days ago, Caroline Glick wrote in The Jerusalem Post that now every Jew is on the frontline of this war. She was right. The question now is not only whether the Middle East will belong to Hamas, to Al Qaida, and Ahmadinejad, but whether France and Europe will belong to the people who murdered savagely Ilan Halimi.

Guy Millière is a French writer who lives in Paris.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/08/2006 08:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The war can't start soon enough.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/08/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#2  The Euros don't care - the Islamists can kill as many Jews as they wish and the Euros won't lift a finger. Anti-semitism never left Europe, it just hid for a little while.
Posted by: DMFD || 03/08/2006 21:03 Comments || Top||

Saddam's Lidice: the dictator's trial reveals a telling historical parallel.
Wall Street Journal EFL; go read it all.

In the late spring of 1942, the world learned the name Lidice. Czech resistance had assassinated deputy SS chief Reinhard Heydrich in Prague, and Adolf Hitler ordered Heydrich's successor to "wade through blood" to find the killers. Nearly 2,000 innocent civilians were murdered by the Nazis without turning up the culprits. So the decision was made to obliterate an entire village, so that the world would know the price of Nazi blood.

On the evening of June 10, German troops sealed off the Czech mining village of Lidice, chosen because two of its native sons were serving in Britain's Royal Air Force. They gunned down Lidice's 173 men in groups of 10, shipped the women to the Ravensbruck concentration camp and deported some of the remaining children to Germany.

Next the Germans had the village razed, its graves dug up and its rubble buried. Finally, they proudly broadcast the details of what they had done. The world got the message. "If future generations ask us what we are fighting for," said U.S. Navy Secretary Frank Knox, "we shall tell them the story of Lidice."

Fast forward 40 years and to another village, this one called Dujail, in Iraq. In July 1982, Saddam Hussein was nearly killed there when gunmen opened fire on his motorcade. The dictator's reprisal came swiftly: That night, security forces arrested 350 villagers, including 15-year-old Ahmad Hassan Mohammad. . . . Of Mr. Mohammad's 10 brothers, seven were murdered by Saddam's henchmen, along with 141 others from Dujail.

As with Lidice, Dujail was razed and its orchards bulldozed. Also like Lidice, the purpose of the massacre was not to dispense justice but to make an example of the villagers. "You people of Dujail, we have disciplined Iraq through you," Mr. Mohammad recalled one of the torturers saying.

Now come to the present. Last week, Saddam acknowledged in court that he had ordered the summary trial that led to the execution of the villagers and the destruction of their farmland. "Where is the crime?" he asked, claiming that as president of Iraq all his actions were lawful. Nazi defendants at the Nuremberg trial famously adopted a similar defense. . . .

. . . We tend to forget that, for all of Iraq's current troubles, the U.S. and its allies deposed a dictator whose methods and purposes were eerily similar to those of the Nazis, even when it came to a comparatively small massacre such as the one in Dujail. That's something in which Americans can take justifiable pride, as much as the World War II generation did in defeating the Nazis. And it's something to which critics of the war, at least those who profess sincere concern with human rights, ought to give some thought. . . .

The John Murthas and John Kerrys and Cindy Sheehansand Pat Buchanans need to be repeatedly reminded of this--whatever your intentions in opposing the war, you are as a matter of objective fact approving and enabling (in the pop psychology sense of being Saddam's "enabler") the massacare of Dujail.
Posted by: Mike || 03/08/2006 06:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:

#1  On the Hitler/Saddam parralel : normally I hate the reductio ad hitlerum, but in this case I'll make an exception, since the baas party's actual translated name was "pan-arabic national-socialist party".

The baas is a *nazi* party, not in the msm sense ("you oppose gay marriage, you're a nazi"), but in the actual, national-socialist, Hitler-inspired sense... and yet, you had all thoses euro pols, whose legitimation is their guilt-inducing sacralization of their "opposition" to nazism ("it's either us, or the nzai wolf will come back and bring us to the darkest hours of our history"), who not only supported and had ties with Saddam, but sometimes were his personal friends (like Shiraq)... and now, they complain about the removal of the only "secular", "western-friendly" leader in the ME, and long for the goold old days... what a bunch of phonies abnd hypocrits!

The links between national-arabism, or national-islamism, as you would call it, and historical nazism are many, and still manifest not only in ideological stances, but also in "details", like the *nazi salute* still used by the hezbollah, the baas, and the hamas.

On an unrelated note, I'd really recommand this site about nazism, since the (false) idea that fascism and nazism were RIGHTwing was the greatest achievement of post-WWII communist propaganda, and still explains a lot the incredible shift to the left of the ueuropean political landscape.
Hitler was a leftist.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/08/2006 7:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Great WSJ editorial, putting matters in proper perspective.

May Saddam & Co. realize the same pain they inflicted on these innocent victims of Dujail.
Posted by: Captain America || 03/08/2006 8:13 Comments || Top||

Terror Networks
"even though i've been raised as a mussulman, i'm not one of them"
Worth reading. This is a great series written by a young man of Pakistani background who's also lived for several years in the Saudi kingdom, went to high school here in the States, college in Canada (because it was more affordable). He has turned away from Islam and considers himself an American. His comments on 9/11 are worth reading alone, but they have more punch if you read the whole account.

May there be many more like him - although his account makes clear the barriers to that.
Posted by: lotp || 03/08/2006 09:12 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A good point, many Moslems are afraid that if they just quit Islam, their lives are in danger. But if they convert to Christianity, they have some greater degree of protection. This is why conversions seem to be a zero-sum game.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/08/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Excellent read.

Favorite quote "They’ll happily and greedily take the fruits of liberty but then adamantly refuse to water the tree."
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 03/08/2006 12:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Isaac Schrodinger is a strange name or possibly psuedonym for a former muslim

I wonder what the story is there
Posted by: mhw || 03/08/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Dunno about the Isaac, but Schrodingers cat is neither alive nor dead...
Posted by: Seafarious || 03/08/2006 17:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Funny, he was last I 'looked'. ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 03/08/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

Brigitte Gabriel's speech - Intrel Summit, Feb 18.
Posted by: Jaitle Jinemp6361 || 03/08/2006 08:30 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

Symposium: To Rape an Unveiled Woman
Long FrontPageMag symposium about the "sexual jihad", hat tip Ed in a comment yesterday.
Chokefull of freudian stuff I find a bit heavy (though myself have many "issues", ahem!), but very interesting nonetheless, and one participant acknowledges the purely racist aspect of theses often collective rapes of infidel women by muslims.

This is not a petty matter, according to what I've read many moons ago by a correctional officer writing in a forum, about 85% of meals served in Paris area prisons, in the sectors reserved for convicted rapists, are muslim meals; even if this is not exact, an official survey about "tournantes" (horrid "youths"/msm novlang to name gangrapes) found that 75% of perps are from african/north african background (and thus muslim, in their vast majority), while a similar study in Holland found a figure of 2/3rd... and there is a rape epidemic in northern Europe too, Fjordman wrote about it, not to mention the australian cases or the UK "grooming".
Note ethnicity of the perps vary a lot from country to country (arabs, kurds, somalis, pakistanis,...), but the cultural-religious background stays the same
Most of the victims are often very young (teens or pre-teens), either western women, motive being there purely racist and sexist (western women are "sluts", western men are "unmanly" and unable to satisfy them, so the über muslim men step in), or "overly westernized" muslim women (sexual predation thus used as a normative enforcement tool).

For thoses who can read french (pity them!), I'd recommand this excellent ebook on the subject (400 ko zipped pdf).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/08/2006 06:29 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [305 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The bit in there about the families of the rapists not understanding why their little Mohammed has been arrested was particularly chilling.

Moderates? No, not really. Just quiet.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/08/2006 8:02 Comments || Top||

#2  While some UN organizations keep on complaining about this, the Western feminists keep silent because they are not interested in the general problem but rather concentrate on clutching to their few elitarian privileges, mainly in business.

I wish this was said louder, and more often. NOW and company are a disgrace to women everywhere.
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 03/08/2006 9:07 Comments || Top||

#3  if castration was the penalty for jihad rape, there would be a bit less of it
Posted by: mhw || 03/08/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#4  The best solution for chronic rape is to teach women self-defense. It's a percentages thing. If a significant number of women resist at all, the "degree of difficulty" for the rapist jumps considerably.

Even though only a tiny percentage of the women who resist can do so effectively, the very act of resisting at all is what makes the difference.

An analogy is a door lock. It will not keep out a burglar for a long time, but it will delay him and make his job harder. It is just easier to look for an unlocked door. If the burglar has to look too much to find an unlocked door, they leave the neighborhood to look for a less guarded neighborhood.

But rape defense is even better. Because those women who can defend themselves effectively are like the one, random door, that is wired with anti-burglar explosives.

That one woman out of two dozen that could stick a knife in the rapist severely cuts down on the number of rapists. It just becomes too damn dangerous to rape.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/08/2006 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Didn't bother to read the story, did you, 'moose?

Posted by: Robert Crawford || 03/08/2006 11:05 Comments || Top||

#6  This exchange was interesting and had some good points, but it seems to me to overcomplicate the problem. It's overintellectualized. This quote seemed to capture the essence:

"These Muslim rapists are...completely emasculated. They cannot control themselves sexually and they are sexually confused as well. Power, aggression, rage and sex yield a near lethal mix arising out of bizarre family dynamics which they experienced growing up."

They want what they want and will take it violently (just like other desires in the Muslim world are so often taken by violence).

They are sexually frustrated and humiliated about it.

They consider women sexual bedpans.

That about covers it.

The part about parents kissing their baby boys' genitals after circumcision about made me toss up breakfast. What a disgusting (incestuous) tradition.
Posted by: Jules || 03/08/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Jules, there is also a real desire to "destroy" the victim.
Samira Bellil, a westernized muslim girl who was a repeated victim of "tournantes" (recreative gangrapes), and who died of cancer last year IIRC (with muslim forum making such nice comments on her death, see the sc at link, if you speak french...), wrote a book about her ordeal, and spoke freely about the mysoginist islamic culture the "youths" live in (I think she was an apostate, she had very harsh words for islam in a tv debate I saw), and its focus on woman-denying.
She told of the use of objects, or even the participations of *dogs*, to further humiliate the girl raped.
Also, there is a feature commonly found in such rapes, and not often discussed openly, but the victims are frequently urinated upon afterward.
Can't get any clearer, can it?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/08/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#8  What you say is true, 5089. Sexual repression and humiliation, doctrinal license for Islamic men to assault women (and girls) because they are women, and the equation of women with dirt, resulting in defecation and urination on victims, or other forms of dehumanizing and defiling them...these are all part and parcel of destroying women in Islam-body, spirit and soul. I was merely pointing out that pages and pages to describe what's happening isn't really necessary.

And I do speak French and downloaded the article. Thanks-it will give me a chance to brush up on my skills and gain more insight into this sick condition called "equal rights for women under Islam".

BTW-I enjoy your posts very much.
Posted by: Jules || 03/08/2006 13:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Jules, I'm not worthy, but thanks anyway, this soothes my fragile ego.

As for the ebook, it's from an interesting site on anti-white racism; judging from forums flame wars between people who actually knew its author, where actual racists and white supremacists fend off with plain "islamophobes" (that would be my type) or "angry white males", I'm pretty sure the man behind that site is NOT a racist.
anyway, he's honest enough to sign with his real name and assume the consequences (he's been actually arrested for that).

The ebook is ca. 4 years old, a bit dated perhaps, I'd say, and is not the work of a professional writer, but a compilation and synthesis of past articles, I hope you won't be too disappointed.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 03/08/2006 14:25 Comments || Top||

#10  TMI
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/08/2006 15:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Robert Crawford: A female friend of mine was bicycling when she observed a rape in progress. The perp had his pants around his knees and was beating the woman with a piece of pipe about the face in an alley.

My female friend got off her bike, broke both of the perp's kneecaps, shattered his jaw, broke his neck and crushed his left hand and wrist.

She was a Kenpo black belt. A thin woman of average height.

Just saying.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 03/08/2006 15:31 Comments || Top||

#12  The Article.
Posted by: 6 || 03/08/2006 17:05 Comments || Top||

#13  My female friend got off her bike, broke both of the perp's kneecaps, shattered his jaw, broke his neck and crushed his left hand and wrist.

My kinda gal. Bet the perp didn't brag about that one. Needs to happen more often. This situation goes well beyond rape as sexual victimization or aggression. It turns sex into a weapon of spiritual death. It is difficult to imagine that any woman who has been gang raped ever regains a healthy attitude about sex. To use what is a truly sacramental act between two individuals who are deeply in love as a method of destroying enjoyment of same goes beyond criminal.

Castration with a dull, rusty butter knife barely begins to address the issue. Think wide aperture crosscut paper shredder with a extremely slow feed mechanism.
Posted by: Zenster || 03/08/2006 21:40 Comments || Top||

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