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Suspect pleads guilty to terrorist plot in US, Britain
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Afghanistan
Afghan Senate chief threatens to resign
Wheels within wheels and all that.
Chairman of Afghanistan Senate and former mujahidin-era president Sibghatullah Mujaddedi warned that he would quit his office in protest if the government failed to control corruption and come hard on corrupt officials.

Mujaddidi is widely respected among Afghans for being a spiritual leader. He is also chief of the government-backed Reconciliation Commission assigned with the task to bring anti-government elements and dissidents in the fold of the government. Addressing a ceremony in Kabul to receive the 16 Afghan prisoners released from Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, Mujaddidi said President Hamid Karzai and Attorney-General Jabar Sabit were giving no weight to his advice on ending corruption in Afghanistan. He said undesirable people were present in the government.

He had time and again asked the government to purge the administration of those undesirable people but the government did not act. "Now, if they (the government) failed to take concrete steps on this front, I shall quit my job," said Mujaddidi.

Sources in the Afghan government told KUNA that the elderly politician, Mujaddidi, was not happy with the new Attorney-General Abdul Jabbar Sabit who is carrying out anti-corruption war in the country. The sources said an official, who was close to Mujaddidi, has recently fallen victim to Sabit's anti-corruption war and the chairman was not happy about that.

Sabit was recently appointed by Karzai and got vote of confidence from the Afghan parliament to purge government departments from corruption which is widespread in this war-shattered country. Both the international community and donors have repeatedly expressed reservations about widespread corruption in virtually all government branches.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Waiting for the flurry of activity this event kicks off.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/13/2006 17:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Not getting his fair share of the graft.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 18:02 Comments || Top||


16 Afghans, 1 Iranian arrive in Afghanistan from Gitmo
KABUL, Afghanistan - Sixteen Afghans and one Iranian released from years in captivity at the US prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, arrived in Afghanistan on Thursday, an Afghan official said. The 16 Afghans appeared at a news conference alongside Sibghatullah Mujaddedi, head of Afghanistan’s reconciliation commission, which assists with the release of detainees from Guantanamo and the US prison at the Bagram military base north of Kabul.

Mejadedi said many of the detainees had served up to four years in Guantanamo. He said “most” of the Afghan prisoners were innocent and had been turned in to the US military by other Afghans because of personal disputes.

The released Iranian prisoner, who also arrived in Afghanistan on Thursday, was handed over to the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross, he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder what will happen to these folks after four years of good food and clean water now that they are back on the dysentery diet.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 11:11 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Ethiopian prime minister vows to defend nation against any Somali Islamists' attack
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 14:17 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The best defense is a good offense.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Sometimes it is, sometimes permitting the enemy to overextend themselves and then cutoff and exterminate their troops is more effective. The Egyptians in the 1973 war with Israel got their troops so far out in the Sinai without food and water, that the Iraelis did an encirclement operation and just left the involving Egyptian divisions sitting there in the desert. The sun did all the work for the Israelis who then accepted the surrender of full Egyptian divisions. However, with the Islamist hordes in their technicals, I doubt that the Ethiopians would be so kind as to accept their surrender. Simply cut them off in the desert and let the sun bleach the bones. That approach saves on wear and tear to equipment and saves ammo.
Remember you have 7 days to live at most in the desert without water, less depending on temperature and wind conditions.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/13/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||

#3  #2: "Remember you have 7 days to live at most in the desert without water, less depending on temperature and wind conditions."

If I prayed for high temps and winds in that desert, would that make me a bad person, Wolf? ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#4  S: Simply cut them off in the desert and let the sun bleach the bones.

The problem is that the Ethiopians are venturing out into Somalia, not the other way around. The problem with sub-Saharan militaries like Ethiopia's is that they tend to buy flashy weapons systems, but not enough gas, ammo or spare parts for them. And then there's the issue of supplying an expeditionary force deep into hostile territory, which adds the logistical burdens of food and water. They might start out with big systems, but end the campaign with small arms - with many hungry and thirsty soldiers discarding even those in their haste to get away from the enemy while conserving moisture and energy. Like I said earlier, I sure hope the Ethiopians know what they're doing.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2006 21:31 Comments || Top||

#5  That's why God created Blackwater and Executive Outcomes.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 22:38 Comments || Top||


Islamists condemn the UN pullout of Somalia
(SomaliNet) Somali’s Islamist group ruling much of southern and central Somalia described on Thursday the decision by the United Nations withdrew its international staff from areas controlled by Islamic Courts in Somalia as contrary to the progress of Somalia nation. The decision infuriated the Islamic Courts.
Fewer international hostages.
Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed, the head cheese leader of executive council of Islamic Courts who held this afternoon a news conference condemned the move in which the UN announced that it pulled out its foreign staff from southern and central Somalia as unwanted and hasty action saying the Islamic Courts couldn’t understand what compelled the UN to take such action.
Other than the shooting and explosions, you mean.
“The Islamic Courts see the UN move as hostile action against the social development in Somalia in term of security and the newly borne peace in the country,” Sheik Ahmed said. “The withdrawal by humanitarian aid agencies is apparently underground war against the Islamic Courts and its supporters because there is stability in the country,”
Draconian, deadly, turgid stability, mind you, but stability.
The UN said on Thursday it had temporarily pulled international staff out of parts of Somalia after receiving threats in areas controlled by Islamic Courts who continue to grab more lands. UN officials did not give any detail about their decision over the international staff that was pulled out of parts of Somalia.
Par for the course.
Asked whether the United Nation is referring the insecurity resulted from the recent killing of the Italian nun in Mogadishu in 17 September and day after Somali president Abdulahi Yusuf escaped an assassination attempt in Baidoa, Sheik Ahmed dismissed the allegations over that issues. “Even if they assumed that like it had better for them to notify us before they left the country to find out the threats,” he said. “you know that individuals were arrested for the case of the murder of the Italian nun and still Islamic courts conduct investigation to reveal the culprits as we have earlier told the Italian government,”
Anybody follow that?
Posted by: Steve White || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "...stability in the country,”

As in "Arafat is in stable condition?"
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/13/2006 7:25 Comments || Top||

#2  They are upset about the removal of UN money.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 11:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Well the guy's got a dishtowel on his head so I guess we'd all better listen up...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Got that cross-cultural white tee working too. This speaks to millions such as myself.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/13/2006 18:00 Comments || Top||

#5  yeah, but his is an authentic "wife-beater"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2006 18:22 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK families' Guantánamo appeal fails
An attempt to force the government to demand that three British residents be returned from Guantánamo Bay failed today. Three appeal court judges rejected arguments that the men, who have indefinite leave to stay in Britain, should be treated as UK citizens even though they were foreign nationals.

All the British citizens who were detained at Guantánamo have already been returned to the UK. Mr al-Rawi is an Iraqi national and long-term UK resident, Mr el-Banna a Jordanian national with refugee status in the UK and Mr Deghayes a Libyan national, also with refugee status in the UK.

Rabinder Singh QC, acting for the families of the men, told a hearing in July that the men's detention was unlawful. He said there was unfounded claims evidence that Bisher al-Rawi, Jamil el-Banna and Omar Deghayes had suffered torture at the hands of US interrogators, and that each was still exposed to that risk.
Tusk, tusk, wotta shame, someone mishandled their Korans, did they?
Mr Singh told Lord Justice Brooke, Lord Justice Laws and Lady Justice Smith that the government's continuing refusal to act was contrary to the Race Relations Act and breached the rights of the men's families, who were British citizens.

Announcing that the court of appeal had dismissed the three appeals, Lord Justice Laws said the refusal to request their return did not contravene human rights or race relations laws.

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Posted by: Steve White || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
"Wudn't me!" : Chechen PM
CHECHNYA'S strongman prime minister, Ramzan Kadyrov, said yesterday that he did not order the murder of Anna Politkovskaya, the Russian investigative journalist who wrote articles alleging that he was behind brutal rights abuses.
“Chechens do not go in for violently settling scores... I do not kill women, and I have never killed women," Mr Kadyrov said...”
"Chechens do not go in for violently settling scores, certainly not with women. And she was a woman... I do not kill women, and I have never killed women," Mr Kadyrov, 30, said in comments broadcast by television. "As for Anna Politkovskaya, she did not get in my way ... I think the people who ordered her killing did it once again to blacken my name."
"I wuz framed!"
Mr Kadyrov's pro-Moscow militia - known as the "Kadyrovtsy" - was a regular target of her writing. The Novaya Gazeta newspaper, where Ms Politkovskaya worked, said it believed that her murder was linked to Mr Kadyrov: either an attempt to silence his most vocal critic, or a ploy by his rivals to discredit him. In an article published on 11 September, Ms Politkovskaya wrote: "In Chechnya, the 'Kadyrovtsy' beat men and women ... and they cut the throats of their enemies." Human rights groups say Mr Kadyrov's forces effectively run Chechnya on the Kremlin's behalf and are behind frequent abductions and killings. Mr Kadyrov has denied the accusations.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't be him, becuz PRAVDA says America was the one. i.e. Russian hooligans pulled the trigger but America gave the orders.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/13/2006 1:45 Comments || Top||

#2  He's probably telling the Truth(Tm). I mean, if you can't trust a chechen warlord, then, who can you trust, I ask you?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Is that a rug, a really bad haircut, or some kinda fungus?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2006 10:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Is that a rug, a really bad haircut, or some kinda fungus?

Whatever it is, nobody ever asked him that way, and lived.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 11:03 Comments || Top||

#5  damn fine looking haircut
Posted by: Jim Traficant || 10/13/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Taiwan official: We won't develop nuclear weapons
A senior Taiwanese official said Thursday the island has no plans to develop a nuclear weapons capability of its own, despite claims of a successful nuclear test by regional neighbor North Korea earlier in the week. Monday's claimed North Korean test significantly raised Asian tensions, with many commentators suggesting it would set off a new nuclear arms race in the region.

However, Joseph Wu, the chairman of Taiwan's Cabinet-level body in charge of relations with China, told The Associated Press that Taiwan will not develop a nuclear weapons capability, because to do so would ratchet up tensions with the communist mainland, its longtime political rival. "We won't develop our own nuclear bomb," Wu said. "Our best military option regarding China is to bolster our defensive missile capability."
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Our best military option regarding China is to bolster our defensive missile capability."

How easy is it to modify 'defensive' missiles into 'offensive' missiles?
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/13/2006 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  That depends on what your definition of "defensive" is.
Posted by: W J Clinton || 10/13/2006 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  SEAN HANNITY > PacRim/East Asian democratic nations + US allies, including TAIWAN, should all partcipate in Global GMD = should buy or have US systems emplaced in their countries. * CHINA will NOT do anything against NORTH KOREA unless all Asian democracies-moderates either possess nuclear weapons, or in the alternate have effective US-style BMD on their soil.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/13/2006 1:34 Comments || Top||

#4  If the Japanese put the X-band radar on their southern most islands and move one of their Aegis-capable destroyers close to Taiwan, the US ABM shield would effectively include Taiwan. As an alternative, the Japanese could help the Taiwanese "upgrade the electronics" on one or more of their destroyers with the Japanese-developed equipment that permits interoperability with Aegis/ABM. Keeps the US out of the picture as far as electronic equipment transfers, and as long as it is formally defined by Japanese law as defensive, that does not violate Japanese arms export rules. But it certainly pokes a big fat dirty thumb in China's eye, and would serve as retaliation for not curbing China's dog, North Korea.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 10/13/2006 2:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Taiwan has long since decided, it's better to "Go Red than Dead", with regards the Dragon breathing down it's neck. The penalty for aggression now fall with South Korea,Japan, and the US. The only way now to 'check' the Norks move is to Detente with the M.A.D. doctrine that worked well for the West during the Cold War years. Japan and South Korea should both declare that their nations will "Go Nuclear" unless the NORKS back down!!
Posted by: smn || 10/13/2006 4:34 Comments || Top||

#6  From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

The Republic of China (Taiwan) denies having chemical or nuclear weapons. During the 1970s, the ROC had an active program to produce plutonium using heavy water reactors, but after strong pressure from the United States, the reactor was dismantled and the U.S. impounded the unreprocessed waste from the reactor. There is no evidence that the ROC possesses any nuclear weapons or any current programs to produce them, although it does have the general technological level to develop the ability to enrich uranium or process plutonium.


Sounds like they could get one in a hurry if they need it.
Posted by: Mike || 10/13/2006 7:40 Comments || Top||

#7  I sense an unspoken "Yet" in that statement.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/13/2006 9:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Taiwan has 6 commercial power reactors and 2 more coming online. That's a lot of plutonium that can be lost in reprocessing.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Why develop your own when you can buy them on eBay?
Posted by: SteveS || 10/13/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||

#10  We won't develop nuclear weapons

Already have them?
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/13/2006 13:56 Comments || Top||

#11  "A senior Taiwanese official said Thursday the island has no plans to develop a nuclear weapons since they already secretly have some"

Heh™
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#12  Again, wrong message to be sending the belligerent communists. Taiwan, understandably, wants to keep a low profile, but delaying this announcement would have introduced a little ambiguity, which could only have helped create uncertainty where it is most needed.

The West continues to pander to China's communists. So long as we persist in doing this, we can only expect the politburo's Mandarins to laugh up their sleeves at such abject foolishness. Much like their Arab terrorist counterparts, crushing physical force or the threat thereof is all that they will respect.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/13/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#13  if things get real bad, if Nkor really starts brandishing deliverable nukes, if China totally wimps out on trying to keep Kimmie on the leash, then Japan will probably build nukes. Once that happens, Taiwan can build nukes with far less opprobrium.

If the above scenario does NOT pan out, and Taiwan builds nukes, Taiwan will look like its unilaterally changing the balance, and will piss off the US, and enrage China.

So Taiwan has every incentive to do nothing till Japan jumps first.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/13/2006 15:43 Comments || Top||

#14  LiberalHawk
If I was a betting man I would bet the bank on Taiwan having a few. That said they would never admit it.

Don't forget the mountains in Taiwan are mainly granite and marble. If something is made above ground... why it is only good planning if a duplicate is made in deep under a mountain.

Also, never forget how deep they hold (excuse the spelling) San Min Ju ee.

Posted by: 3dc || 10/13/2006 16:21 Comments || Top||

#15  LiberalHawk

Consider the english form of the ROC's national anthem that we were required to sing every morning after the US Pledge in elementary grades at Morrison Academy. (Taichung)

San Min Ju Ee our aim shall be
to found a free land
world peace be our stand

lead on comrades, vanguards ye are
hold fast your aim by sun and star
be earnest and brave
your country to save

one heart one soul
one mind one goal

Posted by: 3dc || 10/13/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||


UN vote on North Korea delayed to weekend
A US drive to impose tough UN sanctions on North Korea for its reported nuclear explosion was delayed to Saturday at the earliest after China balked at most some measures sought against the reclusive state. China and Russia managed to get some changes in a text the United States had wanted to put to a vote in the UN Security Council on Friday on a package of economic and arms sanctions.

Japan's UN Ambassador Kenzo Oshima, the current council president, told reporters he hoped for a vote on Saturday on a revised text, the third this week, which would be distributed later on Thursday for governments to analyse. "I think we are almost there and most likely, if we are lucky ... for a vote most likely Saturday," Oshima told reporters after a meeting he attended with the five permanent council members with veto power - the United States, France, Britain, Russia and China.

Russia's UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin also was optimistic, telling reporters, "There have been a number of changes, a number of improvements. I think that the unity of the Security Council at this stage ... is in good shape."
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is bull. It is an attempt to realign the vote to fit the press cycle. Now the vote will happen Sat and the Sunday MSMs will spend all night blasting Bush and the right with half truths in an effort to spin the elections. Easy money bet it that it goes on Sat with little or no changes.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/13/2006 9:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Sundial. Perfect.
Ya got anything slower?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2006 10:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes; a calendar.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 10/13/2006 13:54 Comments || Top||


US and China at odds on N Korea
China and the United States seemed set for a stand-off on Thursday over North Korea after Beijing signalled it would take a softer line on sanctions against the North for testing an atom bomb. The US said that, despite China and Russia’s resistance, it would push for a UN Security Council vote on Friday on a draft resolution mandating tough sanctions against North Korea. China said it wanted to resolve the crisis peacefully rather than aim for exacting revenge. “Punishment is not the goal,” foreign ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said. “As to what measures to take, I think the measures themselves are not punitive action.”

Liu’s comments appeared to take an easier line than Beijing took earlier in the week. The US had said it was “talking about really making it hurt” when it came to Council sanctions. China’s spokesman underlined Beijing’s wish not to push Pyongyang too far. Liu said the international community had to “maintain peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula”, although the test could not be accepted.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Danish Muslims slam Muhammad cartoon posting
Damn, can't find the dead horse beatin' pic!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 14:59 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm not vouching for the linked site, nor do I know if it's safe for work.

That said, this is probably the cartoon in question.

If so, who woulda thunk the Danes would do riff on Al Bundy :)
Posted by: mrp || 10/13/2006 15:39 Comments || Top||

#2  #1 mrp - it's work safe (unless you work in a mosque).

ROFLMAO!

Mods - any way to post it here?

Seething in 5, 4, 3.... :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#3  If so, who woulda thunk the Danes would do riff on Al Bundy :)

Married with children was aired everywhere, thus probably accelerating the Downfall Of Western Civilization by a couple of months; it was also aired here ("Mariés, deux enfants"), and though the dubbing was a bit overdone and all the dialogs' flavor was lost, it was and is still quite funny.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 16:00 Comments || Top||

#4  #3: "Married with children was aired everywhere"

No wonder everyone hates Americans, a5089! ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Too bad, Abdul will have to learn to live with that as long as he's in Denmark. Haha.
Posted by: Duh! || 10/13/2006 16:16 Comments || Top||

#6  I remember seeing that on a fark photoshop contest IIRC. That was quite a while back.
Posted by: Thoth || 10/13/2006 17:08 Comments || Top||

#7  No wonder everyone hates Americans, a5089

I dunno, Peggy and Kelly are kinda hot, in a sluttish way.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 17:24 Comments || Top||

#8  and Marcy...
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2006 17:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Who?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 17:40 Comments || Top||

#10  the hot neighbor (who in real life was a lesbian)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2006 17:47 Comments || Top||

#11  Nooooooooooooo!
Posted by: Shipman || 10/13/2006 18:02 Comments || Top||

#12  That photoshop was on Fark a few years ago. Fark Fartwa coming right after Friday prayer.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#13  the hot neighbor

Who was a slut too, but presented a clean cut facade.
Wikipedia has a good entry on the show, see the international airing list!
The US pop culture rulz, everywhere! There's no escape! And yet, our Elites say the USA are a country without culture...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 18:09 Comments || Top||

#14  There are no Danish Muslim(es). There are only goat buggerers slothing through the Danes welfare system in between church burnings.

Last weekend I bought some Danish beer and started work on the outhouse next to my garden shed. I plan to replace the toilet paper with a copy of the porKoran. Seems a fitting proper used. Maybe I should photograph that and send it to Denmark!
Posted by: Icerigger || 10/13/2006 18:13 Comments || Top||

#15  I have no problem with Lesbians - I understand the attraction
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2006 18:24 Comments || Top||

#16  What was that some comedian said once?

"I am a lesbian in a man's body...."

Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/13/2006 18:29 Comments || Top||

#17  Some points;

1. Go Denmark!!
2. I've downloaded the piccy - heh!
3. #4 now-now Barbara, Anon5089 has a point in his #7, except I always thought Kelly was a bit young and Peg was just tooo frightening (wimp). Ok Kelly's older now...
4. #13 - it's true, we're doomed ;) , but British 'humour' is really awful just now (some bright spots, mainly focused around Ricky Gervais)
5. I digress - did I say 'Go Denmark!!' ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/13/2006 20:41 Comments || Top||


Flourishing cartoons beyond gov't control
EFL
Foreign policy cannot be dictated by random websites, according the minister of foreign affairs, Per Stig Møller, Thursday.

The statement came as his ministry unveiled its ambitious plan to promote Denmark abroad as a place of openness, but the simmering crisis initiated by the youth organisation of the Danish People's Party (DF) nearly overshadowed Møller's message of tolerance.

Møller reiterated Denmark's respect for religion and distanced himself from attempts to discredit Islam. He evaded questions, however, as to why PM Anders Fogh Rasmussen lashed out Sunday at DF's youth organisation for cartoons ridiculing the prophet Mohammed, but failed to address another disparaging cartoon published in party's member magazine.

DF provides the Liberal-Conservative government with its parliamentary majority on a number of issues.
So a "Mohammed Cartoon", far more harsh than last year's cartoons (IIRC published in the JP) shows up on the ruling party's official youth website? Next year should be interesting.
Posted by: mrp || 10/13/2006 10:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1 

The cartoon says it all.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/13/2006 12:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Flourishing cartoons beyond gov't control

As they largely should be. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Regardless of Muslim seething whingeing.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/13/2006 16:16 Comments || Top||


Turkey shows anti-Semitic books at Frankfurt fair
A Jewish human rights group said Thursday it had discovered anti-Semitic books in Turkey's display at the recent Frankfurt Book Fair, and urged Ankara to investigate. Shimon Samuels, a representative for the Simon Wiesenthal Center, said he had made the complaint to delegates at a Warsaw meeting of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. "This is no longer a case of freedom of expression," Samuels said in a statement. "Indeed, it could dangerously be construed as government endorsement."

A Turkish Culture Ministry official who recently visited the fair told The Associated Press that he did not see any anti-Semitic publications at the pavilion when he was there. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists, said the ministry was aware of the complaint and was looking into it.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And the Germans won't do anything about this even though it breaks their laws, unless there is an outcry. The Wiesenthal people frequently make such discoveries, and the Book Fair officials claim that they can't condemn with surety because they can't read those funny foreign languages. This doesn't even count as dhimmitude, because the officials don't think such things are a problem, and besides antisemitism isn't really such a big deal.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2006 15:12 Comments || Top||

#2  and besides antisemitism isn't really such a big deal.

In fact, it is, in Germany and France. If it comes from the far right.

If it comes from the leftists or from Moderate Muslims, then... it's not antisemitism, it's... something else, to borrow from the Rb lexicon.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Marines Pose For Beefcake Calendar
Hat tip: Drudge.

A group of Marines and ex-Marines who fought in Iraq -- including two wounded there -- is featured in a beefcake calendar being sold to help wounded veterans.

Web Site: Purchase Calendar
Humminahumminahummina

"It's a stopgap effort to help people where government programs leave off," said Rudy Reyes, who served two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan and is on the calendar's cover. "This is a way for citizens to help citizens."

The "America's Heroes" calendar is being sold by Freedom is Not Free, a San Diego-based nonprofit group that helps injured service members and their families with such expenses as travel, mortgage and utility bills and special beds for burn victims.

Reyes and the other men who appear in the glossy 2007 lineup served in Iraq in Marine reconnaissance units. Sgt. James Wright, 31, who lost his hands and part of his leg, appears on the back cover in full uniform, saluting with what's left of his right arm.

Several members of the group, promoting the calendar on a cross-country tour, said Thursday they have medical conditions, ranging from combat stress-related symptoms to injuries to their feet, knees, hips and backs from carrying combat loads of more than 200 pounds.

All but one of the men had to be coaxed to pose shirtless for the calendar.

"I wasn't afraid to pose. This is the new-generation Marines," quipped Sean Mickle, 31, a Marine platoon sergeant at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

The $14.99 calendar promises that "100 percent of proceeds aid wounded heroes and their families."

Woo-hoo! Finally, something for the Ladies of Rantburg™! Now where's that credit card...? :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 15:59 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You got that right, Barbara! Saw it this morning.... View on, ladies.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/13/2006 16:24 Comments || Top||

#2  BEEFCAKE!!! BEEFCAAAAKE!!!
Posted by: Eric Cartman || 10/13/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes, ladies, it's true -- I used to look a lot like those guys when I was younger. Somewhere shortly after our conceptions, I think. Then they morphed into beefcake and I morphed into pot roast.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/13/2006 19:46 Comments || Top||

#4  woo hoo!
Posted by: anon || 10/13/2006 20:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Darrell - ROFLMAO!
Posted by: .com || 10/13/2006 20:50 Comments || Top||

#6  These guys can eat MREs in my bed anytime, baby!
Posted by: Elmert Crosh5077 || 10/13/2006 23:21 Comments || Top||


Mariachi Band Leads Elephants Across Rio Grande
Hat tip the Godfather™:

October 11, 2006 — Reports of an elephant crossing the river or people trying to smuggle an elephant across were rampant Tuesday while an elaborate political stunt was taking shape near the mouth of the Rio Grande.

It was a while later that the stunt, which was a photo shoot, was abruptly met by federal agents.
(emphasis added)

“The elephant never made landfall into Mexico, but I tell you something, he could have made 15 laps back and forth, but no one showed up,” said Raj Peter Bhakta, a former star on the NBC show “The Apprentice,” who also is a Republican candidate for the 13th District U.S. House of Representatives seat in Eastern Pennsylvania.
(emphasis added) Send that guy some cash!

He was in Brownsville to raise funds with friends and decided to get a first-hand look at border security while he was here, he said.

In Brownsville, he witnessed half a dozen men swim under one of the international bridges “with complete immunity” which in turn prompted him to take the immigration issue to the next level.

Bhakta decided to see if he could get an elephant accompanied by a six-piece mariachi band across the river.

“To my surprise,
(but no one else's)
the band played on, the elephants splashed away, and nobody showed up,” Bhakta said of the stunt. “I’m astounded.”
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Someone reported to the Border Patrol that people were smuggling elephants, he said.

Bhakta was getting on a plane Tuesday afternoon shortly after the USDA released the elephants and they began their journey back to Maybank.

He said he was “staggered” by what happened on Tuesday and was planning on sharing the story with his potential constituents.

“If I can get an elephant led by a mariachi band into this country, I think Osama bin Laden could get across with all the weapons of mass destruction he could get into this country,” Bhakta said.

The mariachi band was not immediately available for comment.
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 14:36 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is so funny it is sad.

The only reason I'm still voting republican is the democrats are even worse (and traitors on top of it).
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/13/2006 14:49 Comments || Top||

#2  BFD, as everybody know, you can take an elephant to water, but you can't make it drink. On the other hand, the mariachis can be made to drink, assuming you provide cold beer.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 14:51 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm with ya', DV. :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#4  If true, this is an ALL TIME CLASSIC! A mariachi band and elephants. Laughing so hard that I'm crying.
Posted by: anon || 10/13/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Hope there will be film at 11.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 15:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Film at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAcIGx-nxdI&eurl=

Rita Cosby interviews and there is video of the ride.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/13/2006 16:00 Comments || Top||

#7  nobody wants to acknowledge the elephant in teh room river
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2006 16:26 Comments || Top||

#8  And to think that it happened on Mulberry Street our own damned border!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/13/2006 16:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Raj Peter Bhakta gets my vote!

»:-)
Posted by: RD || 10/13/2006 17:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Actually, if you'd watched the show, you'd know Raj is kind of an a-hole.
Posted by: growler || 10/13/2006 17:49 Comments || Top||

#11  The only thing encouraging happened a couple of days ago upstream when somebody caught a 7 1/2 foot alligator in the river. I imagine if there were several hundred gators in there, that all the wading across would diminish rapidly.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/13/2006 18:36 Comments || Top||

#12  #19 g - you watch network television?

Whatever for? Couldn't you find any oil paint to watch dry?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 18:37 Comments || Top||

#13  growler Actually, if you'd watched the show, you'd know Raj is kind of an a-hole.


grrr don't watch the T-wee much, its all Freds fault.
Posted by: RD || 10/13/2006 19:51 Comments || Top||

#14  A-Hole or not, he's right abotu border security. And its a damned effective stunt.

GWB and the congress shoudl be ashamed for nto doing a dmaned thing about this 5 years out from 9-11. they've had a majority, why do they let the Dems run things? Grow some balls before they get cut off.
Posted by: Oldspook || 10/13/2006 21:59 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
US tells Pak to close terror tap
The Bush administration is again leaning on Islamabad to put an end to terrorism directed against India by Kashmiri separatist groups supported by Pakistan. The renewed US pressure was part of recent exchanges between Washington and Islamabad, US undersecretary of state Nicholas Burns indicated on the sidelines of a think-tank meeting in New York. "We obviously wish to see no more terrorism emanating from Kashmiri terrorist groups, and we have told the Pakistani government that we would hope Pakistan will use its influence with these groups to curb and stop altogether any attacks on India," Burns said, adding that the administration had been "assured that Pakistan will use its influence in the matter".

Burns said the US had not seen in detail the evidence handed over through the American embassy in New Delhi, but the administration had seen the statements of the Indian government. "We believe every country should be able to live free of terrorism, and we have great sympathy for what the Indian people have had to endure with these terrorist attacks."

Significantly, Burns’ reference to terrorism by Kashmiri groups and Pakistan’s influence on them was made suo motu, and suggested Washington does not believe in Islamabad’s theory that that the terror attacks in India are solely the result of disaffection of minorities or as a result of the post-Godhra carnage.

This is the second time in recently weeks that senior administration officials have referred to Pakistan-inspired terrorism (Islamabad’s influence on terror groups is the American way of finessing it). The disclosure that Washington has recently taken up the matter with Islamabad means it is putting the heat back on Pakistan after slacking off during the height of the hunt for al-Qaida elements when Islamabad’s help was considered crucial.

The US admonition evidently has had a salutary effect at least for now. Last week, the Pakistani envoy to the US, Mahmud Ali Durrani, acknowledged, perhaps for the first time, that his country had helped the jihad in Kashmir but said it is now trying its best to end it. "Jihad, insurgency or whatever you want to call it in Kashmir... Yes, Pakistan may have helped the jihad at some time, but it was not started by us and now we are trying our best to stop people from crossing," Durrani told a meeting at John Hopkins School for Advanced International Studies in Washington DC.

Durrani specifically referred to the Lashkar e-Taiba, the organisation alleged to be behind the Mumbai blasts, describing how even two years ago, it had hundreds and thousands of money collection boxes in the markets of Rawalpindi. “That is finished, and Lashkar-e-Taiba does not have the luxury of those funds... and the organisation has been banned,’’ he said. While the Bush administration may be impressed by such claims, Indian officials, hardened by previous perfidies by Pakistan, just rolled their eyes.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just talking to these shits does nothing but promote laughter in Pakland. Things will get progressively worse and their actions more brazen, until someone raeches in and whacks these assholes good.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 10/13/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Yep...I sure they'll get right on that...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2006 13:13 Comments || Top||


Lashkar issues fresh threats
Eight weeks after the detention of Lashkar-e-Taiba chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the group's parent political organisation has resumed issuing public threats of terrorist operations directed against India.

Last month's issue of the Jamaat-ul-Dawa's house journal Majallat al-Dawa has proclaimed that its fidayeen commandos would soon "butcher every Hindu and Kashmir will be freed." The magazine flatly noted that "our fidayeen love to slit the throats of Hindu dogs," adding the "Hindus understand the language of knives and guns only."

Majallat al-Dawa's express linkage of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa with terrorism flies in the face of official Pakistani protestations that the organisation has no links with the internationally proscribed terror group. In a recent interview to The Hindu , Pakistani Foreign Minister Khurshid Kasuri argued that the Jamaat-ud-Dawa "is doing charitable work." He said no proof had emerged that its members were engaged in acts of terrorism.
"No, no, certainly not!"
Dr. Saeed himself has been issuing threats of violence from his home-turned-prison. "I will not sit in comfort," he told the Nawa-i-Waqt in a September 9 interview, "unless I emancipate the Muslims from the atrocities of India, Israel, the U.S. and Britain. Jihad will not stop in Kashmir, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Palestine with my arrest. I am an ordinary person. There will be thousands of Hafiz Saeed who will take birth from this soil."
"But in the meantime I'm pretty comfortable. Have you seen my new HD plasma screen?"
Hardline polemic has often preceded waves of Lashkar violence against India. Speaking at the Takmeel-e-Pakistan Conference in Lahore on August 14, 2003, Dr. Saeed argued that the "Muslims of Aligarh, Calcutta, and Bombay are being killed because they were involved in the crime of creating Pakistan. Today, the voice of jihad has reached the Muslims of Ahmedabad and Gujarat."

India is not the only subject of recent Lashkar invective — a fact of no small significance given that Dr. Saeed was detained after allegations emerged that the terror group had trained members of terror cells which targeted the U.S. and the United Kingdom. Speaking at the al-Qudsia mosque in Lahore on September 27, Jamaat-ud-Dawa second-in-command Abdul Rehman Makki described Jews as "the worst and eternal enemies of Prophet Muhammad and Islam." "The Jews," he continued, "are the worst nation. They are the most sinful people. They do all the forbidden things."

Mr. Makki proceeded to demand that Pakistan's "foreign policy should be the Koran. Koran gives the Muslims the courage to stand up. A foreign policy that hinges on the U.S. policy can never be strong and stable." He ended his talk with a taunt evidently directed at Pakistan's Foreign Office spokesperson Tasnim Aslam: "Such countries which follow the U.S. policies appoint female spokesmen."

Other prominent Islamists have thrown down similar challenges to the regime of President Pervez Musharraf. On August 4, the Daily Ummat quoted Pakistan's former army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg as arguing that "Iran should attack Israel and Pakistan should attack India. This is the only way to bring a change in the world. Otherwise, humiliation will be the future of the Muslims."
It would certainly bring a change in the world, wouldn't it.
Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal leader Hafiz Husain Ahmad asserted last month that the "concept of Islamic jihad cannot be left to a formal army or the state" — again a frontal challenge to General Musharraf. "In fact," he argued, "in Islam there is no concept of state or the formal army." Mr. Ahmad ended by demanding that ``every person above the age of 18 and under 60 should be provided jihad training.''
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Such countries which follow the U.S. policies appoint female spokesmen."

Why do they hate women so much?????
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/13/2006 5:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Other prominent Islamists have thrown down similar challenges to the regime of President Pervez Musharraf. On August 4, the Daily Ummat quoted Pakistan's former army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg as arguing that "Iran should attack Israel and Pakistan should attack India. This is the only way to bring a change in the world. Otherwise, humiliation will be the future of the Muslims

Oh i wish this happens.Defeat for Pakistan and Iran would do the West a big favour/victory!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 10/13/2006 5:24 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Coroner: U.S. unlawfully killed British war journalist
OXFORD, England — A coroner ruled today that U.S. forces unlawfully killed a British television journalist in the opening days of the Iraq war.

Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker said he would ask the attorney general to take steps to bring to justice those responsible for the death of Terry Lloyd, 50, a veteran reporter for the British television network ITN who was killed on March 22, 2003.

The Pentagon said its forces had followed proper rules of engagement.

Witnesses testified during the weeklong inquest that Lloyd — who was driving with fellow ITN reporters from Kuwait toward Basra, Iraq — was shot in the back by Iraqi troops who overtook his car, then died after U.S. fire hit a civilian minivan being used as an ambulance and struck him in the head.

"Terry Lloyd died following a gunshot wound to the head. The evidence this bullet was fired by the Americans is overwhelming," Walker said. "There is no doubt that the minibus presented no threat to the American forces. There is no doubt it was an unlawful act of fire." Those civilian aircraft posed no threat to the WTC.

In Washington, the Defense Department said a U.S. investigation "determined that U.S. forces followed the applicable rules of engagement."

"The Department of Defense has never deliberately targeted noncombatants, including journalists," the Pentagon said. "We have always gone to extreme measures to avoid civilian casualties and collateral damage."

ITN cameraman Daniel Demoustier, the sole survivor of the incident, told the inquest that ITN's pair of four-wheel drive vehicles were overtaken by a truck carrying Iraqi forces and that gunfire erupted.

"The hell broke loose completely. I was absolutely sure I was going to die," Demoustier told the inquest. Driving blindly in smoke, Demoustier said he realized the passenger door was open and Lloyd was gone.

Demoustier, a Belgian, said he jumped from his flaming car and lay in the sand, waiting for the shooting to stop. Demoustier said he tried to stand to signal U.S. tanks in the area but that they resumed firing at the clearly marked ITN vehicles. "Driving blindly in smoke"

Demoustier said he saw a Red Crescent ambulance driving blindly in smoke arrive and pick up people. He was later taken to safety in the car driving blindly in smoke of a British newspaper reporter.

The coroner said Friday that a civilian driving blindly in smoke drove up in a minivan, pulled a U-turn and picked up four wounded Iraqi soldiers, then saw Lloyd with a press card around his neck and helped him into the van. Lloyd was shot in the head as the van drove off toward a hospital, the coroner said.

Demoustier said after the ruling that the inquest had not made clear whether the bullet that killed Lloyd was fired by a U.S. tank or helicopter. He said the forces in a tank would have been able to see that they were firing at a civilian vehicle driving blindly in smoke, but a helicopter would not.

The U.S. Embassy in London said it had no immediate reaction to the ruling.

Lloyd's widow, Lynn, in a statement read by her lawyer, said U.S. forces "allowed their soldiers to behave like trigger-happy cowboys in an area in which there were civilians driving blindly in smoke traveling." Don't pay any attention to those Iraqi soldiers behind the curtain.

She called the killing a war crime — "a despicable, deliberate, vengeful act."

Lloyd and the three other ITN crew members were some of the few Western reporters who covered the fighting on their own, while most others were embedded with U.S. or British forces. Let's go it alone in a war with lots of jihadis dressed in civilian close.

Lebanese interpreter Hussein Osman also was killed in the ITN crew, and cameraman Fred Nerac remains missing and presumed dead.

U.S. authorities didn't allow servicemen to testify at the inquest. Several submitted statements that the coroner ruled inadmissible.

"I should have heard all evidence from the American personnel. I have not been able to call any evidence," Walker said. "It was not satisfactory or appropriate to read these statements in place of that evidence."

The court watched a video Tuesday, filmed by a U.S. serviceman attached to one of the tanks accused of firing at the reporters' cars. The tape opens with images of Lloyd's vehicle and the Iraqi truck burning amid gunfire. The tanks drive to the cars and inspect them. A minivan — possibly the ambulance — appears and more shots are fired.

At the end of the tape, a U.S. soldier shouts, "It's some media personnel! That's media down there!"

A forensic examiner said the first 15 minutes of the tape may have been erased.

In Britain, inquests take place when a person dies violently, unexpectedly, or of unknown causes. In the case of an overseas death, the inquest is held in the first English jurisdiction where the body is returned.


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/13/2006 11:32 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker is a political hack with delusions of grandeur.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 13:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Either I am crazy, or the World is.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/13/2006 13:55 Comments || Top||

#3  You're probably relatively sane, you've got a sense of humor... hence...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Lloyd and the three other ITN crew members were some of the few Western reporters who covered the fighting on their own...

Bet they never make that mistake again...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/13/2006 14:14 Comments || Top||

#5  "A coroner ruled today that U.S. forces unlawfully killed a British television journalist in the opening days of the Iraq war."

It's a f*cking WAR, dipshit.

Wot an idiot wanker.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/13/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/13/2006 14:21 Comments || Top||

#7  We can fix that. There, we just made a law making it lawful to kill british journalists.

Happy now?
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/13/2006 15:17 Comments || Top||

#8  The UK is past saving. This is just one more corners inquest they have had that should have never been held. What business is it of a UK corner when a citizen of the UK is kikked abroad? The answer is zero most certainly.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/13/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#9  Oh, man, that photo from Men in Black HAS to be in the archive, if it isn't already .... lol

Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 10/13/2006 18:18 Comments || Top||

#10  Several submitted statements that proved the coroner wrong the coroner ruled inadmissible.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/13/2006 19:27 Comments || Top||

#11  "I should have heard all evidence from the American personnel. I have not been able to call any evidence," Walker said.

No shit, Sherlock. You're a Deputy Coroner in England trying to charge U.S. soldiers with a 'crime' that occurred during a war in Iraq.

You might want to look up the words 'sovereignty' and 'jurisdiction' before you open your festering gob again.

Wanker.
Posted by: Parabellum || 10/13/2006 21:22 Comments || Top||

#12  So he got shot in the head by small arms from an American Tank or Helicopter? So either a 7.62mm round or better? There wouldn't be much left of his head if that were the case.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/13/2006 21:27 Comments || Top||

#13  Kangaroo coroner.
Posted by: WTF || 10/13/2006 21:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Happened in the land between two rives. The earliest known laws of the region were gathered in the Hammurabi codex---according to which, it's always lawful to kill pests, jaywakers and people who bear false witness. So there!
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/13/2006 23:40 Comments || Top||


CSI - Baghdad
BAGHDAD, Oct. 12, 2006 — “There is no such thing as a perfect crime, as there are always clues left behind” is a phrase that is often echoed in police circles all around the world. Detectives and analysts say a good forensics investigation will always lead to the perpetrator. By unveiling the National Forensics Academy in Baghdad Oct. 2, the Iraqi Police told the world the same rings true in Iraq and they are committed to training their crime scene investigators in forensics.

The ceremony featured a walk-through of the academy and showcased new crime scene investigation equipment. Iraqi Police Capt. Sabah, an 11-year forensics investigator and one of the academy’s instructors, said the new academy will train the police in many new methods to detect and investigate crime.

“In the former regime there was a block between Iraqis and the world. We had some very experienced investigators but we lacked the scientific knowledge and new equipment, which the other countries had,” Sabah said with the help of an interpreter. “But since the fall of Saddam, we have been able to get new equipment and technologies. Now that we have this academy, we can use these tools to train our future investigators,” he added.

According to Sabah, forensics, or crime scene investigation, is one of the most exciting aspects of police work. He says even though arresting officers usually get the spotlight, he believes much of the credit goes to the investigators.
“Crime scene investigation is the backbone of an investigation, no matter how good the crime is, we are always gathering evidence to solve it,” Sabah said. “In our language we call it ‘the things which are behind the curtain’ because we are always working behind the scenes.”

Sabah said he is excited at the prospect of teaching investigative skills to many more police officers.

According to Mike Hallmark, a specialized police units coordinator with MNSTC-I’s Civilian Police Assistant Training Team,the Baghdad Police College currently conducts a 30- day crime scene investigators course that is run by Iraqi personnel from the Baghdad Crime Lab. He said this course will soon be taught at the new forensics academy.

“About 18 months ago we put together a train-the-trainer course where we trained a dozen investigators as instructors and to date they have trained 232 investigators all over the country,” Hallmark said. “Now, because of this facility, we can have the Iraqi instructors from the crime lab conduct basic courses and bring in guests to train in special courses. We anticipate bringing in guest instructors from all over the world to train students in such disciplines as ballistics, chemical lab, photography or any other discipline that they need,” he added.

Iraqi Minister of Interior Jawad al- Bolani was present to officially open the academy and said that Iraq was, in the past, on the forefront of forensics, and hopes this new academy will help return them to that position.

“Almost 80 years ago, fingerprint technology was introduced in Iraq and the country built upon it over the years and at one time was referred to as a country in the lead,” al-Bolani said with the help of an interpreter. “It is with great pride that I open this facility and my hope is that it will be a center of excellence and bring us back to the front again.”

He thanked the Coalition for their continued support and acknowledged that the academy was the culmination of a lot of hard work from both the Iraqi people and Coalition advisors.

According to Hallmark, students attending the academy will learn not only management of crime scenes and the skills to explore evidence, but senior officers will also learn how to manage resources effectively.

Sabah said the ongoing developments of DNA and fingerprint technologies, coupled with the new school and its teaching techniques, has produced a major improvement in the ability of the Iraqi Police to detect and solve crime.

“Criminals are being caught in Iraq by using forensic evidence,” Sabah said, “and people should be aware that we are developing our skills and the many ways we can identify them. So if you are thinking of committing a crime, know that we will find you and we will get you."

And you Iraqi criminals get so much publicity for your crimes!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/13/2006 06:25 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See? It's true! Bobby posts good news here and NOBOBDY reads it!

If there's blood, it floods!

signed, Pinch Sulzberger
Posted by: Bobby || 10/13/2006 21:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sorry, Bobby dear. I read it and appreciated, but had to run out for the afternoon chauffering instead of commenting. Please carry on, 'k?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2006 23:12 Comments || Top||


UK troops worsen problems in Iraq - army chief
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain's top army commander said British troops in Iraq should be withdrawn soon because their presence was exacerbating security problems in the country, according to a British newspaper. General Sir Richard Dannatt reading from the Democrat Talking Points also told the Daily Mail in an interview published on Friday that Britain's Iraq venture was aggravating the security threat elsewhere in the world.

In unusually blunt comments for a serving senior officer, Dannatt said the troops should "get ... out sometime soon because our presence exacerbates the security problems."
If they get out Tater's boyz could kill all non-Shia and solve the security problem.
Britain, Washington's main ally in Iraq, has around 7,000 soldiers deployed, mainly in the Shi'ite south. Britain has lost 119 soldiers so-far.
We can't have military people in harms way. It's not the Eurabian way to fight a war.
Dannatt, who took over as Chief of the General Staff in August, suggested troops in Iraq had out-stayed their welcome. "The military campaign we fought in 2003 effectively kicked the door in. Whatever consent we may have had in the first place, may have turned to tolerance and has largely turned to intolerance. That is a fact. I don't say that the difficulties we are experiencing round the world are caused by our presence in Iraq but undoubtedly our presence in Iraq exacerbates them."

Dannatt appeared to be suggesting the presence of British and U.S. troops in Iraq was fanning Islamic militancy -- something British Prime Minister Tony Blair has consistently denied.
That's why they kill each other.
Couldn't be because Sunnis and Shi'a hate each other, nope, nope it's all our fault, must be.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In other articles Timesonline
The scathing comments by General Sir Richard Dannatt directly contradict the Prime Minister, who has repeatedly claimed that the invasion of Iraq played no role in galvanising Muslim extremism in Britain and bringing about the 7/7 bombings.

Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, last night ordered Sir Richard to report for a meeting at the ministry this morning where his future will be discussed.

Indeed
In the Electronic Telegraph
He also attacked the treatment of injured troops on NHS wards after The Daily Telegraph disclosed how one soldier was confronted on a ward by an angry Muslim.

Sir Richard said he had personally confronted Des Browne, the Defence Secretary, about the "unacceptable" hospital situation and accused the Government of breaching a "covenant" between the Armed Forces and the nation.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/13/2006 2:40 Comments || Top||

#2  A few minutes ago, the sound bite on the radio had him saying they should leave "when the mission is over."

I heard it.

Rovian plot?
Posted by: Bobby || 10/13/2006 6:10 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Haniyeh: Hamas will not recognize Israel
Palestinian Authority Prime Minster Ismail Haniyeh reiterated on Thursday that Hamas would not recognize Israel and would not abandon its armed struggle. Haniyeh told followers at a meal to break the fast of Ramadan that the international community would increase the pressure it was exerting on Hamas "in order to try and force it to sacrifice its principles." Israel Radio reported that Haniyeh stressed that "a civil war is not in the vocabulary of the Palestinian people."

Regarding kidnapped IDF soldier Cpl. Gilad Shalit, Haniyeh said, "Olmert is the one delaying your boy's release, "adding, "Hamas and the organizations that carried out the kidnapping are prepared to release him as part of a prisoner exchange deal."

"We will not release him in exchange for promises—only as part of a deal," exclaimed the PA prime minister.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meanwhile in other news, the sun rose today in the east.

Israel Radio reported that Haniyeh stressed that "a civil war is not in the vocabulary of the Palestinian people."

Other words not in the Paleo vocabulary include: 'truth', 'humanity', 'compassion', 'honesty', 'honour' and 'freedom'.

My sympathies are with Cpl Shilat, a war was initiated to get him and his comrades released, and he's still in the belly of the beast.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/13/2006 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Meanwhile, Condi's message this week is about assuring the poor Palestinians that we don't want them to suffer and that they deserve a state.
Posted by: Jules || 10/13/2006 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Perhaps you should relook at and extend Condi's words. In the West, when animals are suffering and have no hope of getting better, they are euthanized.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 11:20 Comments || Top||

#4  "Hamas will not recognize Israel"

Was there ever any doubt?

The MSM always has that incessant self-serving habit of wasting bandwidth and parroting nonsense, making a mountain of hope out of a tiny molehill.
Posted by: Duh! || 10/13/2006 11:26 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't care
Posted by: Condi || 10/13/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Haniyeh: Hamas will not recognize Israel

Then we'd better well make damned sure not a thin dime reaches their hands. Even direct distributions to the Palestinian people are right out.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/13/2006 13:29 Comments || Top||

#7 
I can't go on.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/13/2006 14:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Heh heh MGeek1. Nice Grom impersonation.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/13/2006 15:03 Comments || Top||


Hamas may send operatives to Iran
Hamas representatives were in Teheran on Thursday discussing the possibility of training its operatives in Iran, Channel 2 reported. Following PA elections earlier this year, Hamas reportedly asked Iran for guidance, instructions and financial assistance as it prepared to take over the Palestinian government. "Hamas is currently trying to obtain funding from Iran and has asked the Iranians for advice on how they think Hamas should lead the PA," then-defense minister Shaul Mofaz told EU Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana at the time.

In 1999, the IDF claimed Iran had been training Hamas guerrillas near Teheran for several years to carry out attacks on Israel, after a military court indicted two Hamas members from Gaza for carrying out illegal activities for the movement that included initiating Iranian training. Hamas denied at the time that it had any military training camps in Iran, dismissing the reports as part of a smear campaign against the Islamic republic because of its arrest of 13 Jews on spying charges.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, Duhhhh.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/13/2006 1:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe the HAMAS folks could be useful in helping IRAN in their ethnic cleansing of the Arab portions of IRAN.
Posted by: mhw || 10/13/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#3  When there was that students revolt back in 2000 IIRC (sorry if I'm wrong on that), the dirty work of the actual street repression was in part carried out by arab enforcers, and the MM still have such suppletives ready at hand.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/13/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#4  “…Channel 2 reported…”

Well put Joe. However I can’t tell from this article if “Channel 2” independently obtained hard information regarding specific discussions between Hamas and Teheran or if this is simply Mofazs’ opinion? Either way, it begs the question; how would they get that kind of info? Furthermore, if true, wouldn’t this compromise sources and methods? Seems to me this is another case of stating an obvious assumption disguised as inside baseball. Then it’s picked up by another news outlet (Jpost) “as reported” to lend it legitimacy. Ironically, whether it's true or not, this kind of “journalism” lends credence to Irans’ “smear campaign” charges.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 10/13/2006 11:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Perhaps the Zionists hacked into the Air Jihad manifest.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Berri warns war on horizon unless Israel ends violations
The United Nations representative in Lebanon said on Wednesday that a solution was near on the matter of Israeli troops who continue to occupy the Lebanese border village of Ghajar, even as Lebanon's speaker threatened to resume war if the Jewish state did not halt its violations of Lebanese sovereignty. "We discussed the issue of Ghajar and we are confident that we will find a good solution to the question of Ghajar very soon, so that this will not remain a problem," said Geir Pedersen, representative of UN chief Kofi Annan. "I will not give you any time, but we are working very, very hard. We hope to find a quick solution," Pedersen told reporters after a meeting with Lebanese Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh.

The village of Ghajar, which straddles the Israeli-Lebanese border, is the last position occupied by the Israeli Army since its soldiers left South Lebanon on October 1. The Israeli withdrawal came almost seven weeks after a UN-brokered cessation of hostilities took effect on August 14, ending 34 days of war. Pedersen said the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) "is discussing this with the Lebanese side and the Israeli side."

Ghajar, at the foot of Mount Hermon straddling the Lebanese-Syrian border, is perched on a cliff overlooking the precious Wazzani Spring, which has been a source of continuous disputes between Israel and Lebanon. The area is inhabited by Alawites, most of whom have obtained Israeli citizenship, even though most consider themselves to be Syrian. The village is an extension of the Syrian Golan Heights plateau, which Israel occupied during the 1967 Arab-Israeli war and then annexed in 1981.

According to a UN-drawn "Blue Line" marking the border between Israel and Lebanon following the May 2000 Israeli troop pullout, two-thirds of the village is on Lebanese soil, while the other third is part of occupied Syrian territory.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From Wikipedia:

Prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, this village was in Syria. From 1967 to 2000, the village was under Israeli control. Because the village fell on the UN's Blue Line separating Lebanon and the Golan Heights, two-thirds of the village was transferred to Lebanese control when Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon in 2000. Residents on both sides of the village have Israeli citizenship[1]. They work and travel freely within Israel, but those living on the Lebanese side of the village have difficulties receiving services from Israel, as Israeli citizens and its army do not enter the Lebanese side so as not to be seen as violating Lebanese sovereignty. There is an Israel Defense Forces checkpoint at the entrance to the village from Israel, and a fence surrounding it, but there is no fence or barrier dividing the Israeli and Lebanese sides of the village. Residents of the village can enter both Israel and Lebanon freely[citation needed].

Hezbollah uses the Lebanese side of the village as a base to spy into Israel, and has also tried to attack Israeli soldiers from the area several times.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2006 2:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Lets hope this time IDF will do it right = complete eradication of Lebanise infrastracture.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/13/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||


US carrier battle group sails for Iran
The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Eisenhower and its accompanying strike force of cruiser, destroyer and attack submarine slipped their moorings and headed off for the Persian Gulf region on October 2, according to an article by Dave Lindorff posted on www.jihadunspun.com.

According to Lindorff, the Eisenhower strike force is scheduled to arrive in the vicinity of Iran around October 21, at the same time as a second flotilla of minesweepers and other ships. This build-up of naval power around the coast of Iran, according to some military sources of Lindorff, is in preparation for an air attack on Iran that would target not just Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities, but its entire military command and control system.

Lindorff says that while such an attack was likely to unleash a wave of military violence all over Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and elsewhere against US forces and interests and against oil wells, pipelines and loading facilities, as well as a mining of the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, with a resulting skyrocketing of global oil prices, the real goal of this new war by the US would be ensuring Republican control of the House and Senate.

According to Lindorff, journalist Larisa Alexandrovna, in the online publication Raw Story, reports that top military leaders are already engaging in “branches and sequels” planning for an Iran attack, which her sources tell her is the kind of planning that is done “after an initial plan has been decided upon”. Lindorff writes that he is surprised by the Democratic Party’s silence. Not one Democrat in Congress and not one Democratic candidate for Congress – not even anti-war insurgent Ned Lamont in Connecticut – has demanded an answer from Bush and the Pentagon for the obvious military buildup around Iran, or about published reports that the US already has special forces inside Iran backing the terrorist organization MEK, and selecting targets for US bombardment.

Lindroff also questions the status of the Enterprise carrier strike force, which has already been on station in the Arabian Sea for six months. “If the Enterprise is held over for a longer deployment, after the arrival of the Eisenhower, we will know that something serious is planned,” writes Lindroff.
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ooooo, possibly two carrier groups near Iran by the 21st? Should make for a very interesting end to Ramadan! ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/13/2006 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  jihadunspun is now a news source for pakiwaki times? Oh how the lilliputians have fallen.
Posted by: ed || 10/13/2006 0:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't read too much into the closing comment: "..If the Enterprise is held over for a longer deployment, after the arrival of the Eisenhower, we will know that something serious is planned." Turnover between carrier battle groups is normally accomplished over 2 or more days, with both boats steaming relatively close to facilitate personnel swaps and visits between the big dogs. and Pictures, lots of pictures. Now if they were to coordinate a couple of strike packages, say Ike running day ops and the Starship covering nights, that would be a real good thing, but i am not holding my breath. if Iran were the destination, it would be more logical to have the support ships kind of slip away over a period of several weeks and rendevouz over the horizon.
Posted by: USN,Ret || 10/13/2006 0:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Roger, NavyRet. They will likely have a longer turnover just to intimidate the black hats.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/13/2006 0:45 Comments || Top||

#5  I still contend things heat up right after Nov 7 midterm elections.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/13/2006 1:24 Comments || Top||

#6  FOX + CNN; WND.com, SPACEWAR.com > NORTH KOREA has also now threatened JAPAN, besides also inferring against NEW YORK + WASHINGTON DC. Washington DC > i.e. the NPE, the Congress + USG themselves, sub i.e. agz our political leadership including Amer "doves"/Dubya critics.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/13/2006 1:40 Comments || Top||

#7  All BS from a gutter journalist who can't get a job with any respectable media organ.

Iran cannot be neutralized without the use of WMD. They possess missile-defense in depth. Second term Presidents want stability in their final years. Iran won't have ICBMs until GWB is retired on his Texas ranch, outside of the target zone.

See Ethnic map of Iran terrorist entity:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Iran_peoples.jpg
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550 || 10/13/2006 4:53 Comments || Top||

#8  Snease, options are like assholes, everyone has one. Agree on BS journos
Posted by: Captain America || 10/13/2006 5:05 Comments || Top||

#9  “branches and sequels” planning for an Iran attack, which her sources tell her is the kind of planning that is done “after an initial plan has been decided upon”.

Ha! We have had an initial plan for Iran for years now.
Posted by: Armylife || 10/13/2006 7:50 Comments || Top||

#10  Second term Presidents want stability in their final years.

I'm not sure you understand our President. While all politics are local, if he wins this election and Mr. Bolton gets confirmed, I can see him taking this problem off his successor's plate, one way or another. But the way will have to be clear and I doubt he would do it by year end unless he has Cuban Missle Crisis quality evidence from the incompetents at CIA. But by the end of his term, given a win in this election, and any win will be a big win? Very possible; he'd like to if the People would let him.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/13/2006 8:16 Comments || Top||

#11  According to Lindorff, journalist Larisa Alexandrovna, in the online publication Raw Story, reports that top military leaders are already engaging in “branches and sequels” planning for an Iran attack, which her sources tell her is the kind of planning that is done “after an initial plan has been decided upon”.

By God, I hope so! Those guys in those planning cells get paid to draft plans to respond to all kinds of things, including things nobody expects will ever happen. IIRC, there was (and maybe still is) a contingency plan to land Marines on Fiji in case a Space Shuttle makes an emergency landing there and the locals won't give it back.
Posted by: Mike || 10/13/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||

#12  Snease Shaiting3550, the Air Force and Navy can roll up a "missile defense in depth" in a day or so if that is the objective. Electronic Warfare and anti-radiation missiles are an integral part of any well conceived air compaign. The serious problems with an attack on Iran are political rather than military.
Posted by: RWV || 10/13/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#13  According to Lindorff, journalist Larisa Alexandrovna, in the online publication Raw Story, reports that top military leaders are already engaging in “branches and sequels” planning for an Iran attack, which her sources tell her is the kind of planning that is done “after an initial plan has been decided upon”.

Sheesh...it's no secret that all COCOMs have OPLANSs and CONPLANs. They wargame this stuff all of the time. What a maroon.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/13/2006 14:11 Comments || Top||

#14  Regardless of what happens picture this. Hundreds of mullahs cowering under piles of camel dung with their armed 6 year old wives standing guard. Bwwwaaa!
Posted by: Icerigger || 10/13/2006 18:18 Comments || Top||

#15  Not one Democrat in Congress and not one Democratic candidate for Congress – not even anti-war insurgent Ned Lamont in Connecticut – has demanded an answer from Bush and the Pentagon for the obvious military buildup around Iran, or about published reports that the US already has special forces inside Iran backing the terrorist organization MEK, and selecting targets for US bombardment.

One of two things;

1.) The democrats have suddenly developed a healthy interest in not slitting their own throats.

2.) The democrats are waiting until after any attack on Iran so they can base their response on whether the campaign is successful or not.

Gosh, have I become cynical, or what?

Iran cannot be neutralized without the use of WMD.

Pure horseshit. Our conventional weapons could neutralize Iran ten different ways before they can even begin to shit their pants.

They possess missile-defense in depth.

You mean their crappy Soviet era trash? Source guided weaponry can put paid to that garbage in an instant. They'll have to keep their radars turned off just to preserve the installations.

Second term Presidents want stability in their final years.

If your definition of "stability" doesn't include a neutered Iran in the very immediate future, don't count on much stability in your remaining lifetime.

Iran won't have ICBMs until GWB is retired on his Texas ranch, outside of the target zone.

And if you think ICBMs are Iran's only intended delivery system, again, don't count on much stability in your remaining lifetime.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/13/2006 23:19 Comments || Top||



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