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-Lurid Crime Tales-
OPRAH BALKS AT HOSTING SARAH PALIN; STAFF DIVIDED
Oprah Winfrey may have introduced Democrat Barack Obama to the women of America -- but the talkshow queen is not rushing to embrace the first woman on a Republican presidential ticket!
Is it the "R" word? or, the "r" word"?
Oprah's staff is sharply divided on the merits of booking Sarah Palin, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
Some of the staff are interested in the dialogue while Okra and others are interested in the demagogue.
"Half of her staff really wants Sarah Palin on," an insider explains. "Oprah's website is getting tons of requests to put her on, but Oprah and a couple of her top people are adamantly against it because of Obama."
Remember that Okra fans. She is a shill for the Left. Remember what her money and star-power buy and support.
One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!

It is not clear if Oprah has softened her position after watching Palin's historic convention speech.

Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography.
Oh...it's the "R" with Justice Thomas.
Oprah and executive producer Sheri Salata, who has contributed thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, refused requests for comment.
Regardless if it is "R-ism" or "r-ism", it goes to show one thing: If you think Okra is some sort of hero, you are foolish. She disdains Conservatives, and what we stand for. The only thing she wants from Conservatives is their money...which spends like everyone elses.
Update on Drudge: Oprah sez it ain't true, no decision has been made, and that she'd definitely love to interview Palin -- after the election. I agree: interviewing a sitting Vice-President would be quite a coup.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/05/2008 11:30 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They're scared shitless of her. If they let her on the show, she's liable to come off with some very sensible comments and that would be unconscionable for a lib to let that happen on her show.
Posted by: Kojo Crusomp9502 || 09/05/2008 12:31 Comments || Top||

#2  If she did have the Sarahcuda on, Oprah would probably concentrate on questions about Governor Palin's qualifications as a mother, since she put Trig's health at risk before he was born, and because Bristol got pregnant. She probably would not even mention that Mrs. Palin is the first female governor of Alaska.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 09/05/2008 12:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Oprah's another reason I'm glad I've got a day job.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 12:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Update at Drudge:

OPRAH'S STATEMENT: "The item in today's Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the beginning of this Presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."

Buck-buck-braaaaawk!

Not only is this chicken, it's stupid. She could invite Sarah, McCain, and Biden on successive days, the way she did Bush and Gore in 2000, give them each a friendly interview, say something about not having Barack on because everyone already knows how she feels about him, and then she says it's important for her and the other voters to get to know all the candidates to make informed decisions--and everyone would applaud her evenhandedness and courtesy and class. (Then when someone asks Barack about one of her big supporters talking to the other team, he says something unoffensive about elections being a "national conversation" and "these are my opponents, not my enemies" and he looks classy--well, classier than he's been looking lately, anyway.) This way, she looks petty and cowardly.
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 12:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Go on Ellen. Bigger ratings, and she's not as blantantly in the tank for Obama. Miss Winfrey would get peeved, as an added bonus.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  "A house divided cannot stand!"
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 13:53 Comments || Top||

#7  I think Barbara Walters and Oprah oughta Jello wrestle to see who gets her first.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 13:55 Comments || Top||

#8 
I think Barbara Walters and Oprah oughta Jello wrestle to see who gets her first.


Somebody bring me the extra-sharp needles for my eyes ...
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 14:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields, add to that some of the log cabin Republicans if possible and give Ellen and her audience something to think about. Perhaps some opinions of the GOP need rethinking.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 14:17 Comments || Top||

#10  It's not the "R" word so much as it's the successful conservative woman that Oprah is afraid of. Sarah might just bring her moose gun and skinning knife to the interview.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/05/2008 14:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Why would Sarah lower herself to the likes of Oprah or Ellen?
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 14:47 Comments || Top||

#12  I have a sweet little old lady client. Really sweet little old lady. Every day, she listend to Rush from noon to three, then watches Ellen on TV. Go figure.

Going on Ellen would be real good for Sarah:
-- Exposes her to people who might not otherwise get to see her, and maybe get some of them to notice just how inaccurate all the Kos memes are.
-- Gets a little of that Danielle-in-the-lion's-den vibe going, as Ellen can be presumed not to be too keen on Trunks.
-- Whatever you think of her, Ellen is a good interviewer, and will probably bring Sarah's personality out in a good way.
-- If Ellen goes attack-dog, Sarah can just rip Ellen's heart out through her throat as a finishing move after the kill will no doubt hold her own--which looks bad for Ellen and good for Sarah, and reinforces the media bias perception.
-- Don't know if Ellen cares or not, but it makes Ellen look better vs. Oprah.
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 14:58 Comments || Top||

#13  A woman called in to Rush today and hit it on the head. Oprah's audience is dominately white women. Sarah is just the kind of can do, powerful woman that Oprah encourages and her audience loves. It's just that she is conservative and not black. Which means more to her? Liberal Blackness or business? It's too late now for her to avoid the question. Her audience will decide on her choice.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/05/2008 15:03 Comments || Top||

#14  how many of you folks think Palin would be the VP nominee if she had a Y chromosome?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 15:05 Comments || Top||

#15  LH - how far would a machine pol from Chicago be if he wasn't black? [throw in good looking and with a gift of gab].

One set of standards for one and a separate set of standards for thee? Can't play that game? Why not?

McCain needed to put something on his ticket. He went with the ladies. He could have just as easily gone with J C Watts, but that would have been playing against the Donks' strength, though it would have had the same effect of bringing in the conservatives like Palin has.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 15:26 Comments || Top||

#16  LH,
Valid. How many think O'Bambi would be the nominee without his father's melanin?
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/05/2008 15:39 Comments || Top||

#17  I don't think Gov. Palin's gender was the first consideration for McCain.  It doesn't hurt that she's young, attractive and counter-stereotypical.  But what really made the decision is that she took on the corrupt Republicans in her state and that she's had more direct experience with energy production issues than any other candidate either party might have run.
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 15:58 Comments || Top||

#18  LH...I personally do not think Palin would have been selected IF B had picked Hillary.

That being said, you (the collective you) need to understand Palin does not share the common Social Conservative views on Gay marriage. Hence, an interview with Ellen might be interesting.

She also does not share the common Social Conservative views on contraceptives. She is a long time supporter of education + contraceptives + abstinence = prevention.

That's for you non-Alaskans.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/05/2008 16:09 Comments || Top||

#19  For several years Oprah has declined multiple requests to interview Ayann Hirsi Ali on her program.


Strong women who refuse to play the race or victim card would not appeal to "Obama's core audience". Call it a ratings thing....

Whoops...meant to write: "Oprah's core audience".
Posted by: MarkZ || 09/05/2008 16:21 Comments || Top||

#20  how many of you folks think Palin would be the VP nominee if she had a Y chromosome?

lotp is correct yet again.

But, tell me LH, do you believe The One would be the nominee if he weren't black? And would Hillary have been the nominee if she weren't Bill's ball and chain?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 16:36 Comments || Top||

#21  Oprah and colleagues have poured tons of dollars into the Lord of The Hoops campaign. I doubt she would ever give Palin the air time. Furthermore, I doubt Palin would a venue such as this.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 16:43 Comments || Top||

#22  Mark Z, i do not think you meant to do any such thing.

but you hit the 'vitim and racecard' nail on the head.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 09/05/2008 16:59 Comments || Top||

#23  The Presidency is not just another entitlement or reparations for perceived wrongs.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/05/2008 17:32 Comments || Top||

#24  how many of you folks think Palin would be the VP nominee if she had a Y chromosome?

I'd say a better question is "Are you actually thinking while you post this drek?"
Posted by: Milton Fandango || 09/05/2008 17:49 Comments || Top||

#25  The Church of Oprah Exposed
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 18:06 Comments || Top||

#26  That's for you non-Alaskans.

Well, for you non-social (or otherwise) conservatives, most of the ones I know don't seem to have any problems with contraceptives.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 19:18 Comments || Top||

#27  Snowman...not sure how to take your reply. I was referring to the fact that most readers and Ranburgers are not Alaskans, and do not know exactly where Sarah stands on a lot of issues.

I am a "social conservative" and do not have a problem with contraceptives.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/05/2008 19:41 Comments || Top||

#28  LH - name another candidate for VP in the GOP that had solid conservative credentials, lived the values they professe, is photogenic, well spoken, sharp campaigner, credible as a reformer, record fo fighting corruption and "Big Oil", and who would bring the conservative base "home" for McCain, and still appeal to a group outside of the base, as well as setting the future of the party.

Name ONE.

Other than Bobby Jindal, you can't. And Jindal hasn't been gov even a year - he declined from what was said, because he wwants to turn around Louisiana before he takes the next step.

Sarah Palin was the ONLY choice that would fill that.

LH - I think you are getting to be very very very fecking stupid when it comes to this, you;re sinking into liberalistic idiocy, shying away from the REAL world, whining about how your "values" are getting the snot kicked out of them in the public.

You're also uncharacteristically not defending your position well, if at all - because I think that secretly you realize you're being thick headed and appearing to be just another liberal tool.

You're not the rational LH I knew - you're becoming "stuck on stupid", simply regurgitating the MoveON/Kos/Dem slime lines, no matter how idiotic and ignorant they is, and then grasping at straws.

Wake up. Its OK to like Sarah and its OK to admit that she is a heck of a candidate, possibly better than either Obama or Biden in terms of executive experience and speech making, and "appeal" (not to mention honesty).

Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 23:58 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Haiti facing storm 'catastrophe'
Haiti faces a "catastrophe" after being hit by three storms in recent weeks that have killed 170 people, its president says.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some Pundits are complaining about how the US can care about GEORGIA while ignoring the alleged mess it created, and left unresolved, in nearby HAITI [ARISTIDE Crisis and after], and to a lesser extent CUBA + MEXICO [drug chaos]???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/05/2008 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Georgia was invaded by an overwhelming if crude Russian army and want to address the problem themselves. The others are self-inflicted festering wounds with not much effort of the parties involved to deal with the problem.

The "pundits" can pound sand.
Posted by: tipover || 09/05/2008 2:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Why is it that the Haitians, Mexicans and Cubans don't get to share any responsibility for their own plight in your comment, Mendiola?

Cuba has had 40 years to straighten up their act but they choose to be poor "victims". And as for Mexico, once the people decide they have had a belly full of the drugs trade, it will end, but not before.
Posted by: Chaith Panda7870 || 09/05/2008 2:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Mother nature flushes the toilet.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Something's wrong with the link; it goes to a BBC article on an Afghan drug lord.
Posted by: mom || 09/05/2008 10:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Found the article by going to BBC Americas.

Besoeker, your comment is inappropriate. You do not refer to human beings as waste. Period.
Posted by: mom || 09/05/2008 10:11 Comments || Top||

#7  Haiti - wasn't that Bill Clinton's military intervention?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 11:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Mom, go watch Olby's comments after the 9-11 video. You might change your mind.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 09/05/2008 11:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Haiti has been a running sore in the Caribbean since it became an independent nation in 1810. The US sent Marines into Haiti at least four times in the 20th Century, and has lavished tens of billions of dollars on the nation, with nothing to show for it. Let the NGOs pour their money down the rathole that's Haiti.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/05/2008 14:47 Comments || Top||

#10  The history of Haiti is one of reinforcing every possible bad decision and choice that can be made : they slaughtered or ran-off all the whites, mixed race, and educated free blacks during their revolution; they then turned inward on themselves and began killing all of those not sufficiently revolutionary; and every time they picked a leader, they chose a strongman dictator. The only times in the history of that misbegotten country that things have been good is when the US Marine Corps was the government/military/police force there.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/05/2008 20:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Haiti was a French colony. qed
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 20:43 Comments || Top||

#12  they even screwed up making baseballs...
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 20:43 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Mugabe: sign deal or I form Cabinet
Just channeling his inner thug ...
HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) - President Robert Mugabe will name his own Cabinet if his opposition does not sign onto a power-sharing deal Thursday, a state-owned newspaper reported. The opposition expressed concern Mugabe was turning his back on talks.

"We are a government, and we are a government that is empowered by elections," The Herald, a governing party mouthpiece, quoted Mugabe as telling reporters Wednesday when he was in Zambia for the funeral of Zambian President Levy Mwanawasa. "So we should form a Cabinet. We will not allow a situation where we will not have a Cabinet forever.

"If after tomorrow (opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai) does not want to sign, we will certainly put together a Cabinet. We feel frozen at the moment."

Tendai Biti, Tsvangirai's chief negotiator in the power-sharing talks, said Thursday the Herald story was the only word the opposition Movement for Democratic Change had had of any plans by Mugabe to unilaterally name a Cabinet. That raised the possibility the Herald story was an attempt by Mugabe to pressure the opposition to try to break a deadlock in the talks.

Biti said the talks were stalled, but would not elaborate on what was preventing agreement. "We remain committed to these talks. We want these talks to succeed," Biti said in a telephone interview.

Biti said that if Mugabe formed a Cabinet on his own, it would be "the final nail into the carcass of this dialogue." He said Mugabe could not negotiate "while holding a gun to our head."
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  H.N.I.C. (Thanks Redd Fox)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:16 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Women teachers petition Saudi king for equality
A group of Saudi teachers said they will present a petition to King Abdullah to demand the Ministry of Education give them employment equality, from job opportunities to wages. Sarah Mohamed, co-founder of the Human Justice Campaign for Lifting Oppression against Female Teachers, said the campaign had collected more than 1000 signatures in a petition for functional equality.

"The aim of the campaign is for women teachers to get equal employment opportunities," Sarah told AlArabiya.net. "Some people criticized us for using the word 'equality,' but we ask for 'employment equality,' and we used the texts of international treaties that stipulate equal wages for both."

Mohamed pointed out that the campaign had approached several ministries and local human rights organizations, but none expressed interest in their demands. "We didn't want anyone to accuse us of overstep the relevant authorities," said Mohamed.
"Please don't beat me!"
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Women teachers petition Saudi king for equality

Very well. All women are equal to a quarter of a man.
Posted by: gorb || 09/05/2008 1:21 Comments || Top||

#2  And they want to drive - this is getting good.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/05/2008 20:59 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Religion-based parties face registration hurdle
The Election Commission (EC) might face difficulties registering Islamic political parties, including Jamaat-e-Islami, as the existing laws do not allow parties to run activities in the name of or on the basis of religion.

The Special Powers Act (SPA) 1974 strictly restricts formation of political parties on the basis of religion. In addition to this, new provisions of the Representation of the People Order (RPO) now stand against registration of the Islamist political parties.

As of yesterday, 15 Islamic political parties collected application forms for registration with the EC. EC Secretariat officials said the number would increase as parties including Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh and Islami Oikya Jote are yet to collect the forms.
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Hasina's parole extended until Oct 6
The government yesterday extended Awami League President Sheikh Hasina's parole by a month to October 6 to facilitate her medical treatment in the United States
"Stop clutching yer pearls and start clutching yer heart, yer Honoress, or we ain't ever getting to Brooklyn!"
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Upazila polls schedule likely in a week
The Election Commission (EC) will announce very soon the schedules for holding polls to upazila parishads and Dhaka City Corporation (DCC) towards the end of next month, the EC secretary said yesterday.
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Khaleda has to seek bail for release
Detained BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia would be released through legal procedure but she has to seek bail in all the cases filed against her, Commerce and Education Adviser Hossain Zillur Rahman said yesterday.
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Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Olmert gives Putin land for peace
Amusing...
Last month it took two tank divisions and a diversion of Olympian proportions for Vladimir Putin to subdue Georgia's fledgling democracy and seize two of its territorial regions. This month we may see Russia's new emperor claiming a prime slice of downtown Jerusalem for the KGB without even firing a shot.

I refer to a shady transfer to Putin of what is known as the Russian Compound - a 17-acre site between Jaffa and Hanevi'im roads, close to the Old City walls. According to a Foreign Ministry letter that has come into this writer's possession, the deal was agreed on between the two governments on December 12, 2007. The transaction could not be completed, however, until the land was transferred from Israel's Custodian General of land and property to the government itself.

According to the same Ministry letter, this final clearance was ratified by a Jerusalem court on August 27. Like so many other concessions on outposts and the security fence, this is yet another surrender concocted between the executive and the judiciary, without any parliamentary involvement or oversight.

According to the Israel Policy Forum, the Jewish state's judiciary is the most activist in the democratic world and dominates the elected branches of government, the legislative and the executive. The ultimate check on the judicial branch of government is the power of appointing judges, which is retained by the elected branches of government in the overwhelming majority of democracies. This enables the people's representatives to ensure that no judges with extreme views (including extreme views of their own political prerogatives) are appointed.

In Israel, such a check is nonexistent. Judges in Israel are appointed by a small committee controlled by the judges of the Supreme Court and their close allies in the Israeli bar. The process is secretive and subject to manipulation and abuse. It has led to the domination of the court by judges with strongly liberal views who have succeeded in alienating large segments of Israel's population.

Given Russia's close association with Iran and Syria, the prospect of its establishing an enclave in the heart of the Jewish capital is daunting indeed. It conjures up images of Arab terrorists fleeing into the compound and Israeli security personnel unable to pursue them without precipitating an international crisis. In many respects it would be tantamount to inviting a Russian spy ship to permanently dock right in the middle of an Israeli naval base.

The Russian Compound's commanding position made it the perfect staging ground for numerous conquests of Jerusalem from the Assyrians to Titus's Roman legions. From a Turkish cavalry parade ground in the Ottoman period it was developed in 1860 by the Imperial Orthodox Palestine Society to cater for large numbers of Russian pilgrims to the holy city.

Dubbed "New Jerusalem" by the Turks, the compound's early buildings included a church, hostel, hospice and a consulate. In 1890, half of the site was redeveloped by Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich as a palatial guesthouse for visiting Russian aristocrats.

Later requisitioned by the British forces during the period of the Mandate, the compound was nicknamed "Bevingrad" by the Jewish underground, after the hated British Foreign Minister Ernest Bevin, and was seen as a symbol of British oppression in Palestine. In 1947, two brave fighters, Meir Feinstein and Moshe Barazani, blew themselves up in the compound's jail on the night before their execution, using a hand grenade that had been smuggled into the cell.

Israel purchased the compound in 1964 (excluding only some church buildings) from the Russian Orthodox Patriarch for $3.5 million. Due to lack of hard currency, the price was paid in an equal value of citrus exports. Since the date of this so-called Orange Deal, the site has been used to accommodate various government offices and the Sergei Building has been home to the Jerusalem Magistrates Court.

During his state visit to Israel in 2005, Vladimir Putin paid a private visit to the compound and the magnificent Sergei Building is said to have "captured his heart." He declared his intention to get it back for Russia.

Much has changed in the three years since that backslapping state visit. While Putin has not stopped pushing the legal process for the return of the site, he has said lots of kind words about his concern for Israel, which he insists is a good friend of the Russian people. Sadly, his actions over these past three years have exposed him as an enemy of Israel and, more recently, a threat to the free world.

Not content with supplying Iran's mullahs with all they need to accomplish Ahmadinejad's wish to "wipe Israel off the map," Putin is supplying them with his most advanced Iskander missiles, which will make it even more difficult for Israel to neutralize this existential nuclear threat. Closer to hand, Putin has been arming the Syrian dictator with advanced missiles and looks to be creating a base for his nuclear warships in Syrian ports not far north of Haifa.

In many ways, Putin's actions are little different from those of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. They both make public claims to be friends of Israel while doing everything possible to weaken and destroy the Jewish state.

But Olmert deals with both these men the way he deals with all members of the axis of evil. "Give them some land" is his strategy - without asking for anything in return. This is the prime minister who boldly told fraud investigators that American whistleblower Morris Talansky gave him all that cash without expecting anything in return. The police were incredulous. But to anyone who has seen Olmert handing Israel's enemies land, prisoners, rifles, bullets and jeeps for nothing in return, why should this come as a surprise? It's his tried and trusted business model.

Probably the most galling aspect of Olmert's discredited leadership is how he and his colleagues presume to carve up and surrender parts of Eretz Yisrael as if it were theirs to give. To keep Shas in the coalition they continue to deny what every Israeli knows for a fact: that half of Jerusalem has already been offered to Abbas. In Turkey, Olmert's lawyers have put the entire Golan Heights on the table. And then there is the backdrop discussion of 1967 borders and returning refugees, both of which topics seem lately to have changed from red lines to amber lights.

The '67 borders issue becomes more significant the more one delves into this new Russian interest in the Holy Land. In a recent article in the Jerusalem Post, Ksenia Svetlova reported that the Russian Accounts Chamber (government audit office) published the following announcement on its website in June:

"The PNA [Palestinian National Authority] has passed to Russian authorities three land lots in Jericho during a special ceremony which took place at the premises of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation in Moscow. The head of the Imperator Pravoslav Palestinian Society, Sergei Stepashin, assured that the restored property included three lots: a 12,000 sq.m. one and another two located in the area called al-Moskobiya [Moscow lands] in the city."

Svetlova further quoted an earlier Russian news agency report in April 2008 announcing that during Abbas's visit to Moscow, he agreed to transfer to the Russian government land in Bethlehem in addition to 35,000 sq.m. worth of property on the Mount of Olives and in Jericho.

It's clear that whatever agreements Olmert and his foreign minister are hiding from their own coalition partners and the citizens of Israel, they are already taken for granted by Abbas, to the extent that he is gifting the Russians territory he has not yet received.

One of the few Knesset members wise to what is afoot is Likud's Yuli Edelstein, who has pressed for a meeting of the Defense and Foreign Relations Committee in the coming week on the subject of the compound sale.

Born in the Ukraine, Edelstein was a prisoner of conscience and jailed by the Soviets for applying to emigrate to Israel. Together with Natan Sharansky, he formed the Yisrael B'Aliyah party which took seven seats in the 1996 Knesset elections and later merged with Likud.

"This deal was first mentioned to me quite casually by a lawyer working in the Knesset," Edelstein said over coffee in Jerusalem last Friday. "It was so absurd that I really didn't take it seriously. But I agreed to submit a sha-ilta (member's question) and was astonished to receive confirmation of the intended transfer."

He said the Ministry said nothing about what was expected from the Russian government in return for the property.

"We could have asked for a thousand different things," says Edelstein. "We could have said: 'You want a presence in this place? Make it official put up your flag and move your embassy here.' We could have asked for the restoration of pension payments to one million émigrés from Russia."

There are countless options, but by the government's silence it seems to Edelstein that Israel is getting absolutely nothing in return. Beyond the loss of this strategic site to the Russian government, he worries about the precedent that would be set. "Next thing we will have the Greeks reclaiming the land on which the Knesset itself and the president's residence are standing. Where will it all end?"

In justifying the government's actions, the Foreign Ministry argues that the compound never was Israeli property in the first place and that the Custodian General was, at all times, holding the property in trust for its original Russian owners. But this seems to ignore two important facts:

First, the $3.5 million paid out by Israel in the sixties, whether in cash or oranges. Second, that the "original Russian owners" are neither Putin nor the Russian government. The prevailing Ottoman law prevented such property being owned by a foreign state. As Sergei Alexandrovich commissioned the project with private funds, the only relevant beneficiary of the Custodian's trust has to be the duke's family.

It can only be hoped that exposure of this disturbing story will cause Jews, both inside and outside Israel, to use whatever communal or logistical influence they can to bring pressure on the government in Jerusalem to cancel this private agreement, or at the very least to submit the proposals to a full vote in the Knesset. Israel is small enough for individuals to make a real difference.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/05/2008 14:50 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  TL, gave up on reading

this though

According to the Israel Policy Forum, the Jewish state's judiciary is the most activist in the democratic world and dominates the elected branches of government, the legislative and the executive.

Is not surprising coming from the Jewish Press. In case you dont know, its a solidly Orthodox paper, and very hawkish on anything to do with Israel, and leans toward that element within Orthodoxy that is bitter about the Supreme Court of Israel and its interventions on behalf of human rights and for seperation of synagogue and state.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 15:01 Comments || Top||


What Happens To Lost Passports
Largely out of view of the West, Russia has been waging a bizarre media campaign internally, striving to convince its citizens that the recent unpleasantness in Georgia was all the doing of the United States. One of the main accusations was that Russian troops found numerous "American mercenaries" among the dead.

When pressed by Western reporters inside Russia, to display some of this evidence, the Russians have been evasive. Late last month, the Russians finally came forward with the U.S. passport of one of the "American mercenaries". The name on the passport was Michael Lee White, who turns out to be a 41 year old U.S. Army veteran.

But at the time of his alleged death, and for some time before that, he was in Texas, caring for his sick father. He is now teaching English at the Guangdong (China) University of Business Studies, where he was when the Russian accusations caught up with him. When questioned by reporters, White said he had never been to Georgia, and had nothing to do with what was going on there. When asked about his passport, he said he did lose one on a 2005 flight from Moscow to New York. Now he knows where that passport ended up.

The Russians will probably assert that White lost his passport in Georgia, and escaped to the United States, where the CIA provided a dying father and a teaching job in China as part of a coverup. This sort of thing plays well in Russia, and for the Russian government, that's all that counts.
Let's not forget the historical contribution of thousands of American communists and socialists that upon arriving in the 1920-30's Soviet Union had their passports confiscated. Passports that were then used to insert NKVD spies and sleepers into America. Even though these ex-Americans were executed or exiled to die in the gulags during Stalin's purges, I'm positive they would be proud of the fact they gave their last measure of devotion for the Rodina.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 08:37 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ed: Let's also not forget that the US probably got the better part of the deal, in that we sent to Russia some of the most neurotic, bizarre, annoying and loathsome of our citizenry. In their place, while we got spies, they were probably much harder working and at least tried to fit in to our society, instead of just endlessly bitching, complaining and filing lawsuits.

/sarcasm
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 9:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Amateurs and thugs.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Are the Russians gonna start insinuating to their proles that the Chinese are in on the big conspiracy?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 10:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Are the Russians gonna start insinuating to their proles that the Chinese are in on the big conspiracy?

Only if it's not done first on Kos or DU.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 11:13 Comments || Top||

#5  The internet is following them everywhere, even as they send the Potemkin Village Construction Consortium, Inc. into South Ossetia.
Posted by: Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division || 09/05/2008 18:26 Comments || Top||


Cheney offers US backing for Georgia's NATO bid
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney insisted that Georgia will join NATO and backed its attempts to rebuild from its war with Russia on Thursday, using a trip to former Soviet republics as a show of U.S. support for their pro-Western leaders.

Cheney flew to Kiev from Georgia, where he denounced Russia's "illegitimate, unilateral attempt" to redraw the U.S. ally's borders by force. "Georgia will be in our alliance," Cheney told reporters while standing alongside Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili, whose pro-Western government has sought to join NATO despite Russian opposition.

Speaking in Moscow, Konstantin Kosachyov, head of foreign affairs committee in the Kremlin-controlled lower house, accused Cheney of trying to forge an "anti-Russian axis." "It's Cheney who was behind all recent events on the former Soviet turf," Kosachyov said in televised remarks.

The vice president's trip was intended as a signal that the U.S. will continue cultivating close ties with Georgia and its neighbors even after Russia showed it was willing to use military force against countries along its border. "America will do its duty to work with the governments of Georgia and our other friends and allies to protect our common interests and to uphold our values," Cheney said.
"Russia's actions have cast grave doubts on Russia's intentions and on its reliability as an international partner," Cheney added.

On the eve of his arrival, the White House announced a $1 billion commitment to help the small, strategically located nation recover from its war with Russia. Saakashvili said Georgia was grateful for the aid, which matched his government's estimate of war damages: "Together with our other partners, in Europe, America and elsewhere, we will rebuild Georgia. We feel that we are not alone."

The United States is at Georgia's side, Cheney said, "as you work to overcome an invasion of your sovereign territory and an illegitimate, unilateral attempt to change your country's borders by force, that has been universally condemned by the free world."
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeppie.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/05/2008 1:14 Comments || Top||

#2  ION TOPIX > RUSSIAN LAWMAKER SAYS RUSSIA WILL DEPLOY WEAPONS [New High-Precision] NEAR POLAND, prob near Kalininsburg/grad.; + MCCAIN URGED CONFRONTATION WITH RUSSIA.

*WAFF > RUSSIA TO DEPLOY NEW ELECTROMAGNETIC WEAPON : CHENEY: GEORGIA WILL BE PART OF OUR ALLIANCE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/05/2008 1:37 Comments || Top||

#3  And your weenie is only THAT big, so there.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
"Woman Spy Case" Touted by Lee Myung Bak Group Dismissed
Now this is the KCNA we've missed for so long...
Pyongyang, September 3 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland issued a statement Tuesday slamming the Lee Myung Bak group for frantically kicking up a confrontational racket against the DPRK after cooking up what it called "woman spy case" in recent days.

The statement said:

The case does not deserve even a passing note as it is a threadbare charade disclosing the true aim sought by the group from the outset, but we can not but reveal the falsity of the case before the world as its orchestrator has gone far beyond the tolerance limit in a bid to hurt the dignity of the DPRK and tarnish its international image.
Yes, we all know how hard that is to do...
As far as the "woman spy" at issue is concerned, she is a criminal who fled after committing crimes against the state and the people, and human scum crazy for money, vanity and swindling. She finished middle school education, enjoying free education and free medical care in the DPRK but after school she was engrossed in fraud, swindling and theft to meet even legal punishment.
Ungrateful bitch...
She did not reform herself even in the subsequent period but continued swindling. She defected to the south long ago, evading punishment by law. In the DPRK she not only did enormous damage to properties of the state and society but caused huge damage to private properties on several occasions. For these crimes she was sentenced to six years of forced labor and prison terms.

As for her step-father whom the group claims was put under custody, he is also human scum who betrayed the homeland and the people. He idled away time while changing his jobs dozens of times when he was in the DPRK.
Ah, slacker was he?
The puppets painted such swindlers and idlers as "spies dispatched by a certain institution of the north". This is ridiculous enough to make even a cat laugh.
Cats can laugh?
Leave it alone, he's rolling.

The information about the activities allegedly conducted by the "woman spy" released by the puppet security authorities, is also a sheer lie.
Oh, boy! Puppets! Everybody loves puppets!
They said they hired the "woman spy" as a "security lecturer" at a unit of the puppet army despite the fact that they found something "questionable" in her from three years ago. This proves that the puppet army and the security authorities of the south side must be made up of blind and deaf people.
Blind and deaf puppets. How sad...
A lot of "spy cases" were cooked up in the south in the past, too, to spark off public furor, but this is the first time that such a clumsy "spy case" was fabricated.

The farce orchestrated by the Lee group, not feeling ashamed of itself, only to become a laughing stock of the world is aimed to divert elsewhere the people's criticism of it due to its domestic and foreign policy failures and mislead the public opinion in a bid to get rid of the tight corner at which it is now finding itself. It is also aimed to rally conservative forces, suppress progressive forces, evade the responsibility for bedeviling the north-south relations and pursue confrontational policy towards fellow countrymen.

The group of traitors has gone the lengths of painting such human scum little different to psychopath who has been engrossed in swindling, brokerage and prostitution as a "spy" and using her for the anti-DPRK confrontational racket. This clearly proves in what deplorable position the group is now finding itself.
Oh-oh. Looks like you're own your own, honey...
The fabrication of the case is another grave provocation to the DPRK in the wake of the incident of the south Korean tourist that took place in the area of Mt. Kumgang in July.
Oh, yeah. That lady that made you shoot her in the back, right?
The group even tried to build up public opinion, groundlessly linking the "spy case" with the sacred institution in charge of the state security defence in the DPRK. This is an insult and mockery of the dignity and system of the DPRK.
An insult of a mockery of a sham of a charade of an insult of a mockery...
The DPRK will never remain an on-looker to the smear campaign against it launched by the group of traitors in a bid to do harm to the system in the DPRK after fabricating the above-said case, not content with deteriorating the inter-Korean relations while letting loose a spate of provocative outbursts inciting confrontation with fellow countrymen and crying out for "regime change" and "preemptive attack".

The recent incident more clearly proves that the Lee Myung Bak group is made up of philistines and anti-reunification confrontational maniacs putting the preceding military fascist dictators into the shade. Traitor Lee Myung Bak seems to try to use the trite methods used by the preceding dictators in the past, not knowing how much the world has changed over the past decade. He should bear in mind that this is little short of following in the footsteps of the predecessors who met deaths.
As always, should you be caught or killed, the Dear Leader will disavow any knowledge of your actions and denounce you as human scum. This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, chickie babe.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 08:28 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Someone please forward the preceding to the Soviets Russkies. Now this is how you bellicose, not that pathetic stuff you've been shoveling since the Fall Break tour in Georgia. You can get those style marks up there to at least 4 or 5 with minor Biden tweaking of these communiques.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 11:37 Comments || Top||

#2  I dunno about Cats laughing , those I know have patented looking smug.

Dogs now Do indeed laugh, I've seen it.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:10 Comments || Top||

#3  but caused huge damage to private properties on several occasions. For these crimes she was sentenced to six years of forced labor and prison terms.

I thought there was no private property in the Communist Paradise?
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe she ripped off Kimmie's Hennessy's stash.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 13:31 Comments || Top||


Europe
U.S. risks Russia row with Ukraine NATO backing
Non CNN headline: US supports Ukraine's western democratic membership, tells Putin to go pound sand.
The United States has backed Ukraine's bid for NATO membership a day after similarly supporting Georgia, in a move which may further stoke tensions with Russia.

U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney met with Ukraine's pro-Western president Victor Yushchenko in the capital of Kiev on Friday, the third stop of a tour that has already taken him to two other former Soviet republics -- Georgia and Azerbaijan.

The meeting came on the same day as the United States' top warship arrived in the Georgian port of Poti to deliver humanitarian supplies, fueling Russia's fears that its superpower rival is making its presence felt in the Baltic region. Russia said the vessel's technical characteristics raised questions about whether it should be allowed into the area, Russian news agency Interfax reported.

Russia is unhappy that its former states are seeking to join the 26-nation NATO defense alliance, and last month's conflict with Georgia over two disputed territories was seen by many as an attempt to assert its power.

Cheney repeated the statement he made a day earlier that Russia's military actions in Georgia last month cast "grave doubts" on Moscow's intentions and reliability as an international partner. The vice-president commended Yushchenko's trip to Georgia soon after the conflict broke out in early August and delivered a message to Ukraine from President Bush.

"The United States has a deep and abiding interest in your well-being and your security," Cheney said. "Ukrainians have a right to choose whether they wish to join NATO. And NATO has a right to invite Ukraine to join the alliance when we believe that you are ready and that the time is right. No outside country gets a veto."
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 09:35 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Appears Cheney just gave old Puttie a bit of wedjie.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:45 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Obama in 1987: community organizing sucks
John B. Judis, TNR
Yeah, I know, it's TNR, but ... look, just read the thing, willya?
(Blodface emphasis added.)


In late October 1987, Barack Obama and Jerry Kellman took a weekend off from their jobs as community organizers in Chicago and traveled to a conference on social justice and the black church at Harvard. . . . Two-and-a-half years earlier, Kellman had hired Obama to organize residents of Chicago's South Side. Now, Obama had something to tell his friend and mentor. . . . He told Kellman that he feared community organizing would never allow him "to make major changes in poverty or discrimination." To do that, he said, "you either had to be an elected official or be influential with elected officials." In other words, Obama believed that his chosen profession was getting him nowhere, or at least not far enough. Personally, he might end up like his father; politically, he would fail to improve the lot of those he was trying to help.

And so, Obama told Kellman, he had decided to leave community organizing and go to law school. Kellman, who was already thinking of leaving organizing himself, found no reason to argue with him. "Organizing," Kellman tells me, as we sit in a Chicago restaurant down the street from the Catholic church where he now works as a lay minister, "is always a lost cause." Obama, circa late 1987, might or might not have put it quite that strongly. But he had clearly developed serious doubts about the career he was pursuing.

Yet, two decades later, to hear Obama the presidential candidate tell it, those years in Chicago as a community organizer shaped the person--and the politician--he has become. . . . In truth, however, if you examine carefully how Obama conducted himself as an organizer and how he has conducted himself as a politician, if you consider what he said about organizing to his fellow organizers, and if you look at the reasons he gave friends and colleagues for abandoning organizing, then a very different picture emerges: that of a disillusioned activist who fashioned his political identity not as an extension of community organizing but as a wholesale rejection of it. . . .
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 16:04 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  but of course: this exercise in bitter cynicism makes him perfectly positioned to be a Donk politician. It doesn't make him qualified to be President Of The United States, the position he aspires to, but needs phonebooks to sit on during the interview
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 21:22 Comments || Top||

#2  If one wanted to be charitable, one would see that scales fell from the eyes of the young grasshopper: why, did you know that in Chicago, it's better to be a politician than to be a community organizer?
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 22:42 Comments || Top||


Bishop of San Francisco asks Pelosi to meet with him concerning Abortion
BISHOP OF SAN FRANCISCO asks Nancy Pelosi to meet with him concerning Abortion with talk of dening her Sacrement of Church for her anti Catholic stand. His statement:

"I regret the necessity of addressing these issues in so public a forum, but the widespread consternation among Catholics made it unavoidable. Speaker Pelosi has often said how highly she values her Catholic faith, and how much it is a source of joy for her. Accordingly, as her pastor, I am writing to invite her into a conversation with me about these matters. It is my obligation to teach forthrightly and to shepherd caringly, and that is my intent. Let us pray together that the Holy Spirit will guide us all toward a more profound understanding and appreciation for human life, and toward a resolution of these differences in truth and charity and peace."

"denying her the Sacrament of Church" - that is basically a formal sanction denying her communion unless and until she repents and does penance, based on the Latia sentia excommunication she has incurred on herself by actions and words. In terms non-Catholcis might uderstand: he's giving her a chance to repent and if she does not they will formally announce her excommunication.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 13:02 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When the phone don't ring, he'll know it's her.
It's not like Catholics are gonna line up to piss on her lawn.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 13:35 Comments || Top||

#2  She's a "cafeteria Catholic." Excommunication might make a difference to her--or not.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 09/05/2008 14:11 Comments || Top||

#3  While I have no doubt the good Bishop is concerned for Pelosi herself, she is not the main audience for this letter.
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 14:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Nice to see a bishop doing the job.
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 14:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Uh oh.
Posted by: Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division || 09/05/2008 15:08 Comments || Top||

#6  As long as Nancy keeps talking, she turns people off. Today her bishop, tomorrow who? Keep talking, honey. 91% disapproval rating for her and Harry's Congress is not good enough. By November, you can hit 95% if you try. Go for it!
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/05/2008 15:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Is she capable of doing anything to turn off her own voters, though? I thought she had a safe district.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 15:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Bring bell, book, and candle. He might also take some Holy Water and garlic.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 15:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Well the 8th District is all in San Francisco, so she's pretty safe as long as she stays far left. Only chance of losing is if she doesn't jump on the next radical left hobby-horse that becomes popular.

From Wiki:
"Pelosi represents one of the safest Democratic districts in the country. Democrats have held the seat since 1949, and Republicans, who currently make up only 13 percent of registered voters in the district, have not made a serious bid for the seat since the early 1960s. Pelosi has kept this tradition going. Since her initial victory in 1987, she has been re-elected 10 times, receiving at least 75% of the vote. She has never participated in candidates' debates."

Posted by: Chong the Anonymous9033 || 09/05/2008 16:07 Comments || Top||

#10  "I am writing to invite her into a conversation with me about these matters."
Euphemism for calling Nancy to exorcism.
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 16:09 Comments || Top||

#11  She's a "cafeteria Catholic." Excommunication might make a difference to her--or not.

Just before a major election with how many hundreds of thousands [millions] of true believing Hispanic Roman Catholics in the game? She may be in a safe district, but her associates aren't. And by her position, obtained only by the votes of her party members in the House, it's a good/not good issue to be raising right now for them.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 16:10 Comments || Top||

#12  Unfortunately, the Catholic Church seems to lean towards the Democratic position on many issues such as welfare, the death penalty, war (in general), social justice, and many other issues. The key difference is abortion.
The Catholic Church does not (and cannot) tell people how to vote. The best they can do is to have candidates lay out their positions on the issues the Church thinks are important, and allow Catholics make up their mind.
Unfortunately, in a two party system, you usually end up choosing the lesser of two evils.
On the other hand, for Pelosi to stand up and say that she has decided what the Church is supposed to say is outrageous. I am glad that her bishop has apparently decided that enough is enough.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 09/05/2008 17:11 Comments || Top||

#13  Here's the underhanded lob for you all . . .

Nancy - "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition."

Posted by: GORT || 09/05/2008 17:40 Comments || Top||

#14  "Since her initial victory in 1987, she has been re-elected 10 times, receiving at least 75% of the vote. She has never participated in candidates' debates."

Wow, even the old Soviet Politburo didn't have that extended a record, at least not since Stalin.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 19:27 Comments || Top||

#15  Keep up the pressure, Ratzi.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/05/2008 20:49 Comments || Top||


McCain-Palin Ticket Chills Arabs, Muslims
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 12:46 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just reading the headline GOOD,
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:03 Comments || Top||

#2  heh. When I read the headline I was surprised because I thought perhaps the idea of having adults in charge calmed them a bit. You know, chill'n.

Agree with #1.
Posted by: Betty Grating2215 || 09/05/2008 13:10 Comments || Top||

#3  That's a feature, not a bug...
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 09/05/2008 13:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...so curl up with your favorite goat.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 13:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Some Iraqi and Arab politicians and pundits have privately ridiculed as ironic the fact that Palin is regarded in the United States as socially conservative while her unwed teenage daughter is pregnant.

I believe it quite 'ironic' that you goat buggers pray 5 times per day, yet stone your daughters and bury them alive!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 13:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Down near the bottom of the article is the thought that if the aged President McCain were to die in office, that Evangelical Christian female would be in charge.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Not only that, tw, but she is familiar with weaponry.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 14:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Affirmation.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/05/2008 15:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Define "chill"
Posted by: Don Vito the dyslexic || 09/05/2008 16:09 Comments || Top||

#10  Agree with Redneck...the idea of pucker factor 10 among Arab leaders and muslims warms the cockles of my heart.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/05/2008 16:13 Comments || Top||

#11  Right on, Besoeker. The muslim world: A place where child rape and bestiality is excepted, and where honor killings are the norm.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/05/2008 16:15 Comments || Top||

#12  If there is a chill in the Abab world, that can only be GOOD. Maybe they will start getting their $hit together and quit trying to bugger the rest of the world.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/05/2008 16:34 Comments || Top||

#13  That means they are going to riot
Posted by: European Conservative || 09/05/2008 23:05 Comments || Top||

#14  Who really gives a flying f*ck what arabs and muslims like anyway? Whatever they don't like, I like.
Posted by: Whavish Untervehr4912 || 09/05/2008 23:06 Comments || Top||

#15  our evil opponents don't like her? Oh Noes!!111!!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 23:41 Comments || Top||


McCain TV Ratings Beat Obama in Preliminary Numbers
Presidential candidate John McCain's acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention drew more television viewers than his rival Barack Obama attracted at the Democratic party's event last week, according to preliminary ratings from Nielsen Media Research.

Across all broadcast networks Thursday, Sen. McCainÂ’s speech ended the night with a 4.8 rating/7 share, compared to Sen. ObamaÂ’s 4.3/7 average, according to overnight numbers from metered households in 55 U.S. markets measured by Nielsen. These ratings are preliminary, however, and are subject to change.

NBCÂ’s coverage of Sen. McCainÂ’s speech started directly at the tail end of the opening game of NFL season, with the speech pulling in a 6.3 rating/10 share, topping Sen. ObamaÂ’s speech last week by 26%. That lead-in may have boosted audiences who last night turned out in droves to watch Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin introduce herself to the country.

ABCÂ’s showing of the McCain speech averaged a 4.5/7, down 2% from the same night of the Democratic convention last week, while CBSÂ’ coverage took in a 3.4/5, an increase of 3%.
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 12:19 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wife is watching O'Bama, he's mindless, he just said "Hydrogen is a limited resource, there aren't that many dams and rivers.

Fucking moron.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  And remember, Palin;s speech got 40 million - more thanthe Messiah, and on far less channels (6 vs 10).
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 12:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Candidate McCain was right to aim his speech to the undecideds across the country, rather than to the partisans on the convention floor. He started the final stage of the campaign while his opponent is still figuring out how to handle is pick for vice president. Win or lose, Candidate Obama is finally having the growth experience he has needed for a very long time.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:11 Comments || Top||

#4  As disgusted as I was initially by the MSM's grotesque witch hunt, things did turn out swimmingly.
Just a lucky "perfect storm" for the GOP, or a special ops, "watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat" calculated battle trap plan by Team McCain?
I don't think they are that crafty, but I'd hate to think the rollout Saracuda was a stroke of luck.
Genius plan or lucky day?
What say you?
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 09/05/2008 13:50 Comments || Top||

#5  If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu

I doubt they studied Sun Tzu in the Ivy or J Schools.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 15:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Just a lucky "perfect storm" for the GOP, or a special ops, "watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat" calculated battle trap plan by Team McCain?

The latter. Beginning with the Saddleback Forum and running through Palin being named last Friday the McCain campaign has been as sharp as any I've ever seen.

Don't confuse the heretofore unknown with the unplanned. Palin's selection and her subsequent impact is as much an accident as the bombing of Hiroshima. Here's hoping her impact is similarly significant.
Posted by: AzCat || 09/05/2008 17:45 Comments || Top||


Obama's Palin strategy: Sit and wait
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 12:15 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought this was BHO's Iran policy? I'm so confused. /s
Posted by: tipover || 09/05/2008 13:09 Comments || Top||

#2  He'll just sit and let the MSM handle it.
Posted by: DoDo || 09/05/2008 13:14 Comments || Top||

#3  The Obama campaign will leave Palin to navigate the same cycle of celebrity that Obama has weathered, and the same peril that her nascent image will be defined by questions and contradictions from her Alaska past.
The difference is that she has character, while he is a character. Sen. Obama does not understand that Gov. Palin has taken certain positions from her core beliefs, and has therefore acted on them consistently. As Sen. Obama has no core beliefs beyond "I'll say anything to get money and power" he's going to be waiting a long time for the MSM to crack Gov. Palin.

And I might add she's not going to take any flack from the MSM either. If they call her on their double standards she's going to rub their noses in it, and it's about time someone did.
Posted by: DLR || 09/05/2008 13:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Obama's campaign will largely sit back, watch her rise and hope she falls.

which translates: the entire media lap dogs of Obama will take care of destroying her the best they can, and Obama will seem like he's free from it all
Posted by: ex-lib || 09/05/2008 20:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Ex-lib - that seems to be his plan (and it's probably the best he can do) but the longer it doesn't work, the worse it gets for him. I doubt it's the sort of sit and wait for "hope and change" he had in mind.

Short campaigns are either on the offense or defense, and he's got no sort of lead to be on defense.
Posted by: Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division || 09/05/2008 21:20 Comments || Top||


Palin Power: Fresh Face Now More Popular Than Obama, McCain
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 12:04 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  During her speech, Sarah Palin broke the teleprompter with her stare. She then scared it into working again, also with her stare.

Unlike Dick Cheney, who shoots small birds with a 28-gauge shotgun, Sarah Palin hunts moose with a .30-06. When she shoots a lawyer, they stay down.

Sarah Palin is the killer app.

Sarah Palin was put on earth to hunt caribou and kick ass. She's just run out of caribou.
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 14:27 Comments || Top||

#2  *giggle* I imagine she and the future former vice president would have a lovely conversation in the duck blind.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 15:06 Comments || Top||

#3  "*giggle* I imagine she and the future former vice president would have a lovely conversation in the duck blind."

but i would imagine that if SP gets a bead on a goose, there will not be a lot left to pick up w/ that 30-06 shootin' iron...

so is it too soon to think about how hard it will be for her to get a permit in DC????
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 09/05/2008 17:07 Comments || Top||

#4 
Q: What's the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

A: One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let's be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy. The other kills her own food.
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 22:26 Comments || Top||


Palin-Mania Sweeping Nation
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 10:20 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe she should have copyrighted or trademarked her name..
Posted by: 3dc || 09/05/2008 19:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Michael would object
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 20:08 Comments || Top||


Angry readers dump Us Magazine over Palin
Three celebrity weeklies — OK!, People and Us Weekly — featured Sarah Palin on their cover, but one of those magazines is reportedly losing subscribers because of it.

Us Weekly, which unlike People and OK!, chose a rather caustic cover line (“Babies, Lies and Scandal”) is said to have lost thousands of subscribers in just the first 24 hours following the printing of the issue.

“I’m hearing it’s 5,000, maybe more,” says one well-placed source in the industry. Another source claimed that as many as 10,000 readers have already cancelled their subscriptions. A spokesperson for Wenner Media, which publishes Us, says “it is completely false that we are losing 10,000 subscribers.” As for the 5,000 estimate, the spokesperson only said “that is false, too,” but wouldn’t comment further.

Five thousand might not seem like a large number at first glance, but itÂ’s significant in the context of UsÂ’s printing schedule. The magazine goes to press Monday night, which means subscribers donÂ’t receive their issues until Friday or Saturday. In other words, the cancellations are coming from subscribers who, in many cases, havenÂ’t even gotten their hands on the actual issue.

“When Us went to print Monday night, it looked like the ticket was falling apart," says one magazine editor. “They went to print thinking Palin was dead in the water, and their mistake was thinking everyone who reads Us is a Democrat, when they’re not. Readers are loyal, but the base of a political party is more loyal. They don’t need to read the magazine when there’s so much press around it to know to be upset.”

Upset might be an understatement: One Us advertiser has admitted that they’ve received calls from angry former subscribers threatening to boycott their products. “(Us publisher) Jann Wenner supports Obama, Wenner media decided to follow the buzz around Palin before her speech, and now subscribers feel like a vote has been cast on their behalf," says another magazine editor. “It’s going to be tough to bounce back from this one. Especially if the advertisers get involved. If they get nervous, that can hurt all of us.”
Posted by: tipper || 09/05/2008 09:24 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Anyone have a list of advertisers?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Geez, what am I gonna read at the doctors office?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  tu3031, maybe a 3 year-old copy of Good Housekeeping, like in my Doctor's office.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/05/2008 9:56 Comments || Top||

#4  According to Drudge, Oprah is balking at hosting Sarah Palin on her show, too.

My one mild regret is that I neither watch one or read the other, so I can't join the pile-on.

Bad form to piss off a major part of your readership or audience. Just ask the Dixie Chicks.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 09/05/2008 10:40 Comments || Top||

#5  It seems to me we are watching a major realignment of the media.

They decided to make a final stand over Obama. He might win, but the lefty media will probably take a mortal wound in the process. They are already bleeding left and right, perhaps they have nothing left to lose.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 11:11 Comments || Top||

#6  If they get nervous, that can hurt all of us.

If the media is unable to deliver on the O'man after selling their hearts and souls, someone is going to wake up in marketing and wonder why they are spending so much money on these venues to communicate with their customers. They've exposed themselves to a very nasty and serious 'return on investment' adjustments.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Was pleasently surprised at Dillon's grocery store - that is a regional Kansas business and they do not have arugula if you were wondering. The store did not have the recent Us magazine on display. Now that I think about it, there were still quite a few of the old edition still on the rack.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 12:10 Comments || Top||

#8  swksvoIFF, did you look in the toilet paper section at Dillon's?
Posted by: Rambler in California || 09/05/2008 12:36 Comments || Top||

#9  (smiling)

Yeah I did, but I didn't have to pick up cat litter that day so maybe..
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 12:55 Comments || Top||

#10  If I could get away with it I'd throw a few copies of National Review into the mix in our waiting area ...
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 13:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Wouldn't work. Not enough pictures.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 13:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Balance it out with The New Republic or Atlantic or something, Dr. Steve. I'm not in your part of the world but I've gotten so tired of learning new ways to paint trash pink and white with just a hint of spring green, then turn it into lamps, bookshelves, funky little tables... Not to mention all the cures for being tired when more sleep won't do the trick.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:16 Comments || Top||

#13  it is completely false that we are losing 10,000 subscribers." As for the 5,000 estimate, the spokesperson only said "that is false, too," but wouldn't comment further.

so at the time the statement was made, we can conclude that the loss of subscriptions was greater than 5,000 (they notably didn't ask them if it was "more or less than" but said "as for the 5,000 estimate". So we know it wasn't exactly 5,000 and it was (at that time) less than 10,000. heheh.

slow suicide.
Posted by: Betty Grating2215 || 09/05/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

#14  It could be 15,000, Betty Grating2215 dear. If they'd said "More than," or "Less than," either of the figures that would be indicative, but not bracketing at all is weaseling out of saying something that could get them in trouble with the board and the shareholders later. Especially if the flow of cancellations is continuing.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:32 Comments || Top||

#15  Right you are, trailing wife!

I had initially thought that if they lost 15,000 then they it would be untrue if they said, "it is completely false that we are losing 10,000 subscribers" - as if they lost 10,001 it would still be true that they lost 10,000.

But you are correct, they may just have meant that it was false that the actual number was 10,000. Good catch.
Posted by: Betty Grating2215 || 09/05/2008 13:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Quite likely their subscriber base isn't all that large & they sell many of their copies at grocery store checkouts. ??
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 16:35 Comments || Top||

#17  I saw the vid of the female taking the US talking head down.

Please, they couldn't find 6-7 spaces to give the year of her husband'd DUI?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/05/2008 20:51 Comments || Top||


Grassroots Astroturf movement of community organizers demand Palin apologize
Jim Treacher

A commenter at QandO was nice enough to explain the difference between Obama Black Nixon and Palin:

Jesus was a community organizer. Pilate was a governor.

To which I replied:

And last night was the crucifixion.

Hey, you know who else was a community organizer? Don Corleone.

P.S. Here's a funny thing: If you Google "Jesus was a community organizer" "Pilate was a governor", suddenly that moronic non sequitur is all over the place. Hundreds of results, and I'll give you a cookie made of dreams if you can find one dated before Sept. 4. Purely spontaneous, right?

Way to get rid of the "He thinks he's the Messiah" meme, geniuses. Astroturfing sucks, but if it helps turn even more people away from a witless crybaby like Obama, who wants to be president because otherwise it's not fair, that works for me. We are the spam we've been waiting for.

And you'll never guess where this wonderful, poetic grassroots slogan "originated". It's attributed only to "a reader." Kos is such an idiot that he can't even come up with a fake name to put it under. How about "Sparack Spobama"? "Spavid Spaxelrod"? (I wonder if this Kos page will be deleted, just like the one that launched the utterly deranged conspiracy theory about Palin's youngest son? Get the disinfo out there, and then remove the source. Orwell was an amateur.)

P.P.S. If you're a community organizer and you want to help organize a community of other community organizers to stop the mockery of whatever the hell it is you do:



http://organizersfightback.wordpress.com/

They're demanding an apology from Sarah Palin. Perhaps they haven't been paying attention. I think that'll happen the day after Joe Biden gets through a full paragraph without reminding people of a much less likable Ted Baxter.

Instapundit adds:

Reader Thomas Prewitt emails that the astroturf is Biblically inaccurate: "Jesus was actually not a community organizer. He was the Messiah, and he left the organizational stuff to the apostles who started the early church. The true organizer of the New Testament was actually Paul. His letters to the different churches mentored those communities. And, he lived a life much more like that of John McCain. Many of his letters were written from prison where he was beaten." Well, that last comparison may be a stretch . . .
Posted by: Mike || 09/05/2008 08:37 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We have many, many "community organizers" in Colorado Springs. They're called "churches", and they do a bang-up job. To me, the role of "community organizer", as applied to Barrack Obama and most of the "people" responding with this "grassroots movement" are busybodies that get in the way of real work being done, and parasites living off other people's money.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/05/2008 16:46 Comments || Top||


Clinton off to FL to hit at Palin on her own Obama's behalf
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not. Gonna. Work.

Not in FL.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama's acting like a wussy little boy who has to beg his big sister to go fight his battles for him while he goes and snivels in a corner. Then, once sis takes care of business, he's whooping and hollering about how BAD he is, how he showed that other guy, yeah....don't mess with ME.

(Not that I have personal experience with this. Nope, not me.)

Palin must be scaring the living crap out of him. GOOD!!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 1:06 Comments || Top||

#3  It just has to be said, "Hillary, I know Sarah Palin, and you are no Sarah Palin."

Done!

(What fun that was to add Palin to my spell-checker!)
Posted by: Sherry || 09/05/2008 2:10 Comments || Top||

#4  A little misty for me that Hillary stuck by her philandering hubby and everything else, and now has to go campaign for the One while another, younger woman gets chosen.

I don't like Hillary but it has *got* to be hard for her to want to get out of bed every morning right now.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/05/2008 2:45 Comments || Top||

#5  From here on up, Seafarious, it is downhill all the way for Hillary.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/05/2008 3:21 Comments || Top||

#6  She'll end up being purged from the Party, stricken from the rolls. Joining Lieberman as an Unperson.

While Sarah gets to waltz into power through the hole Hillary & Co. kicked in the wall, brick by brick, with bloody bare feet.

The ladies in my generation (and yikes! Sarah is more-or-less my generation) will never really fully understand the sacrifices made by the generation before, or the challenges they had to overcome.

Sarah stands on the shoulders of giants.

/Again, I'm not a Hillary fan. And not even a radical feminist fan. But it would be dishonest to fail to acknowledge the debt.

Recognize.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/05/2008 3:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Senator Clinton has already said she will do her best in Florida, working around her many pre-existing engagements between now and November 4th.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 4:27 Comments || Top||

#8  Don't feel too sorry, Sea. She's going to inherit the mantle of Teddy and preside over her court of fools in the Senate for many years.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 7:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Sea, I agree with you but was puzzled that she thanked Geraldine and Hildebeast yet failed to mention Elizabeth Dole. The Dole's were present that night when she gave her acceptance speech yet I never saw any acknowledgement given. Perhaps it goes back to not showing people who for whatever reason are considered "losers".
Posted by: Everyday a Wildcat(KSU) || 09/05/2008 8:26 Comments || Top||

#10  Palin should invite Hillary to tea or a backwoods hunting and fishing trip.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 8:55 Comments || Top||

#11  Everyday a Wildcat, there probably aren't that many women upset about Libby Dole's, or even Shirley Chisholm's failed bid like there are/were about Hillary's. Keep in mind that Dole ran back in what, the 90's, and she never was able to rack up tons of votes. Hillary was running until about last month and had a decent shot at the brass ring. The memories are fresher.

Also, if the first female nominee for VP wasn't acknowledged, it surely would have been jumped on by the press.

BTW, NS, you just gave me another reason to vote for McCain. I would just LOVE to see Hillary replace Reid as head honcho in the Senate....just so that Obama has to spend the rest of his career kissing her ass! ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 9:01 Comments || Top||

#12  “IÂ’ve been called worse on the basketball court, so itÂ’s not that big of a deal,” he said. Yet Ms. Palin seemed to be on Mr. ObamaÂ’s mind. At a rally in Lancaster, Pa., Mr. Obama asked an audience of several thousand people if they had “caught any of the performances” at the Republican convention.

Basketball and wimin...."on his mind." Interesting.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:30 Comments || Top||

#13  Interesting to muse on what was going thru Hillary's mind listening to Sarah's speech.

Hillary has put up with several boatloads of s..t from her husband for 3 decades and now Sarah, who evidently has a beautiful family gets nominated and gives a speech that makes her both the anti-Hillary and the alternative Hillary at the same time.

Probably a strong anti-depressant should be on standbye duty.
Posted by: mhw || 09/05/2008 9:51 Comments || Top||

#14  Probably a strong anti-depressant should be on standbye duty.
Posted by: mhw 2008-09-05 09:51


But don't take the easy road.
Posted by: Vince Foster || 09/05/2008 9:56 Comments || Top||

#15  Hillary has to do this - Obama is no longer her main competitor but Palin. Before Sarah the strategy was to let Obama hang himself by losing to Old John and then Hillary rides to the rescue in 2012. But that strategy is over and Palin is there to run in 2012 as an experienced executive as VP while Hillary is back as lost baggage. Now she has to attack Palin in such a way to make her damaged just enough to allow a gap for Hillary to run against her in 2012.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 09/05/2008 10:41 Comments || Top||

#16  Obama's acting like a wussy little boy who has to beg his big sister to go fight his battles for him while he goes and snivels in a corner.

the irony here is very rich
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 11:03 Comments || Top||

#17  She'll end up being purged from the Party, stricken from the rolls. Joining Lieberman as an Unperson

ya think shes gonna lose a primary for reelection in NY and have to run as an independent?

nah. Shes going remain a power in the party. She and Bill have lots of friends, long rolodexes, and Palin WILL make her more important in this campaign. Obama is gonna have to fight to limit her influence in his administration.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 11:05 Comments || Top||

#18  Dole - she ran against Saitnt W in 2000, and said some kinda resentful things about how he wrapped up the nod through money. Her husband was called the "tax collector for the welfare state" by Saint Newt, and was also not forgiven for supporting Clinton on Kosovo. He is just the kind of old Republican the Palin movement conservatives despise. The Doles aint stars to this GOP.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 11:09 Comments || Top||

#19  Hillary has put up with several boatloads of s..t from her husband for 3 decades and now Sarah, who evidently has a beautiful family

I think Chelsea has turned out just fine. I will try to avoid saying more, I didnt bring up anyones beautiful family.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 11:10 Comments || Top||

#20  Mr. Obama asked an audience of several thousand people if they had "caught any of the performances" at the Republican convention.

Condescending ass. liberalhawk, I agree Chelsea turned out to be a lovely young woman. However, the point is that Sarah Palin will (or not, I await waking up on the morning of Nov. 5 with great anticipation) have arrived at the White House without having had to put up with husbandly abuse. Rather, she has gotten loving support from her First Dude for every choice she's made in a career perhaps more pedestrian than Senator Clinton's, but clearly equally satisfying.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 11:32 Comments || Top||

#21  LH

I certainly didn't mean to defame Chelsea. Seems like a nice person.
Posted by: mhw || 09/05/2008 11:45 Comments || Top||

#22  You guys purport to know more about these families than most folks do about their own. Leave 'em alone. I really don't care about Chelsea or Bristol any more or less than about the other 50 million kids that aren't mine.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 11:49 Comments || Top||

#23  I certainly didn't mean to defame Chelsea. Seems like a nice person.

Excuse me! You do realize who her parents are, don't you. Chelsea is a Clinton, through and through. It is in the genes.
Posted by: Thor Gluting6175 || 09/05/2008 12:12 Comments || Top||

#24  Hillary needs to hang on and help enough so that any loss by the Democrats cannot be blamed on her. Hillary is the Democratic frontrunner in 2012 if THE ONE loses. Biden won't get the bid despite being the VP candidate now.

If Obama wins Hillary waits 8 years, but again Biden is an old Codger. He's like Cheney in that he isn't likely to move on to the big chair at that point. So unless another star shows up it's Hillary's again.

Don't feel sorry for her. I'm sure she would have prefered things to work out differently but her position could be worse.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 12:14 Comments || Top||

#25  If I were hillary, I'd work just as hard as bo did for me. No more, maybe less.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 12:16 Comments || Top||

#26  My political calc comes up with a different result. Hillary's presidental clock runs out in 2012, IMO. If BO wins, she can't hold together her funding rolodex. Supporters, (including maybe her husband) and more importantly their money, will have to "moveon.org" :-)
2012 for her is what 2008 is for McCain... the last campaign.
Her PUMA base may get the nod and a wink from Bill that a vote cast for Obama is a vote cast against Hill ever getting another chance to wear the brides dress.
Am I mis-reading this? I really suck at calculus.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 09/05/2008 12:46 Comments || Top||

#27  Capsu, that is what majority of PUMAs seem to think, even without Bill's signals. He already gave that signal anyway, a while ago (all greement but no action vs half-agreement but action).
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 09/05/2008 14:19 Comments || Top||

#28  So is this another shining example of Bo's definition of "Above my pay grade?"

When HRC fails, will there be room 'undah da bus' for her??????
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 09/05/2008 15:41 Comments || Top||

#29  I think Chelsea has turned out just fine.
Posted by: liberalhawk


Just fine my a$$ - she became another @$%@#$%@##$ lawyer. A pox on them all!

Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/05/2008 16:39 Comments || Top||

#30  OP, she's not a lawyer. At least she didn't become a "community agitator organizer", so give the Clintons some credit.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 16:58 Comments || Top||

#31  Chelsea is earning her money the old fashion way... working for a hedge fund.

(she's adult enough to handle comments about her occupation)
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 09/05/2008 18:37 Comments || Top||

#32  Its pretty simple - if Obama wins, Kos and moveon.org take over the Dem Party, and they push everyone else out of the way with Soros money.

Hillary's only hope is 2012, and that means killing Obama's campaign somehow without looking like its what she is doing.

At a minimum, the a loss by Obama means Hillary and the Clinton Machine can take over the party and start chopping the necks of Kos, moveon.org and the other "disloyalists" who cost her this opportunity in 2008 by going with the unqualified "Messiah".

Soros will likely die before the next cycle, and that cuts the puppetmaster out from moveon. And that's when hillary will stomp them flat.

I seriously would not want to be Kos and company with the Clintons in charge and taking scalps. Markos will have to meet wiht her and will leave the room without genitalia -- they will be in Hillary's purse.

She may not win in 2012, but it will not be due to a lack of "unity" enforced on the Dem party. She will, at a minimum, have her revenge. And I'll applaud the whole way.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 23:12 Comments || Top||


McCain to detail presidency goals
John McCain is to set out his vision for the US presidency, accepting his party's candidacy for the White House.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I was hoping for something pretty good (like Palin gave), but all I saw was promises of socialism, and empty promises. McCain offered little else than giving money to people who lost their jobs (last time I checked sending out resumes wasn't out of style), and saying he'll work on alt-fuel (isn't he a sitting senator that has the power to author laws?).

If he didn't have a strong stance on the GWOT, I'd just assume stay home this November. But, he's the only person running who actually understands the there are people in the world who want to kill other people like us, and in turn wants to kill them. So, he has my vote, and thanks to Palin, I'll only have to get half drunk to vote for him.
Posted by: MoreScotch4Me || 09/05/2008 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  The unemployment / job training bit was phrased in an interesting way. IIRC, and I don't have the text in front of me, he said something along the lines of helping retrain folks *while* they worked temporary jobs. It sounds like he's going to make folks work for their unemployment checks, that's a good thing.
Posted by: AzCat || 09/05/2008 0:46 Comments || Top||

#3  At least he did say he'd go after corruption adn self-dealing (etc) in the GOP as well as the usual places- the GOP has been in dire need of a a clean out of the Beltway and Manhattan elites from the GOP for a while; those leeches have been killing the party and selling out principle for power for too long, as well as being in the pocket of K street. They completely dragged the party from "Jacksonianism" and "Reaganism" and conservatism, to some sort of Rockefeller elitist amorphous unprincipled blob headed by Lott, Delay and GWB. Time to drag it back.

So I give him credit for that.

A lot of this speech is to position himself as an outsider, and highlighting his opposition to Bush in many instances. That pulls the big "4 more years of Bush" garbage that Obama is banking will work. Palin pretty much drive a stake through that, and tonight's speech lopped off the head for good measure.

This speech was aimed that the "mushy middle" types, not conservatives or liberals. And as that sort of thing, from hearing about it, it seems to have been effective.

And unlike Obama who seems to have peaked, McCain still has room to grow in the public's eye.

Sop all in all, a decent speech, and a *great* convention, bringing the GOP back from the dead, and clearly setting a future course firmly toward Palin and Jindal's brand of Republicanism.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/05/2008 0:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Keeping in mind that now matter the "grand plan" it is Congress that disposes. What is on the bottom of the ticket matters.
Posted by: tipover || 09/05/2008 2:27 Comments || Top||


Palin criticizes Obama again in solo appearance
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Thursday took an immediate swipe at Democratic nominee Barack Obama in her first solo campaign appearance since joining the GOP ticket. The Alaska governor also issued a fund-raising appeal that blamed the Democratic presidential ticket for spreading "misinformation and flat-out lies" about her family and her.

Palin met with Republican governors Thursday and said afterward that leading a state means you have to make decisions and not just vote "present." "We don't have a 'present' button as governor - we are expected to lead, we are expected to take action and not just vote 'present,'" said Palin, who is in her first term as Alaska's governor. "So there's a big difference, of course, between the executive and legislative branches and our experience."

The vice presidential candidate met with the governors on the morning after her speech to the Republican National Convention. In a fundraising letter issued Thursday, she wrote that "the Obama-Biden Democrats have been vicious in their attacks directed toward me, my family and John McCain. The misinformation and flat-out lies must be corrected."

Palin said Thursday that she has "a big job cut out in front of me running for vice president." "I intend to give this campaign all that I have to give," she said. "And I look forward to these 60-plus days on the trail. My family looks forward to this, we're up for it, we're excited about it."
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  She's deliberately trying to provoke Obama. Her "community organizer" jibe was aimed foursquare at Barrack's massive self-image. It attacked him where he lives, his schwerpunkt.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 09/05/2008 9:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Community Organizer is to Barak Obama as Sanitation Engineer is to Tony Soprano.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Obama is many things, all of them bad. But that is not what he sees when he looks into the mirror.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 09/05/2008 11:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I would like to know who paid Obama's wages while he was a "community organizer" and his single greatest accomplishment during that time.
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 11:27 Comments || Top||

#5  He worked with ACORN, which is funded indirectly by Soros as I recall.
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 12:51 Comments || Top||

#6  She's deliberately trying to provoke Obama

That's the Veep's job description. That's why McCain hired a hockey mom.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 13:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Lord of the Hoops and Gollum, you are in trouble. Sarah is speaking to the people of Gondor.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||


CBSNEWS: McCain, Obama Tied @ 42%
(CBS) The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week. Twelve percent are undecided according to the poll, and one percent said they wouldn't vote.

This is in contrast to a poll conducted last weekend, where the Obama-Biden ticket led McCain-Palin by eight points, 48 percent to 40 percent.
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#1  before Palin's speech.
What is it now?
Posted by: 3dc || 09/05/2008 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, 3dc, considering how many Dem women are scrambling to get airtime to remind everybody what kind of a wonderful, gracious and gallant friend to women the Messiah is, he's got to be hurtin' for certain.

There's even talk about replacing Biden with Hillary in certain swamps out on the left. (Funny thing is, earlier this week they were betting that McCain would dump Palin.)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 1:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Swamp Blondie - ObaMessiah is too narcissistic to ever last the last two months of the election with Hillary as a VP. He would say or demand something (without realizing it) and totally tick her off. Plus why would she take it? If he threw her on the rail tracks now he would do it after the election too.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/05/2008 4:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Besides, with Hillary comes Bill.

Three's a crowd.
Posted by: Minister of funny walks || 09/05/2008 7:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Remember the polls are bias in calling Donks. Palin's main act was to motivate the nevermind/fence sitting conservatives who'd unlikely be polled anyway, but are now in the game. Everything else is just even more icing on the cake.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 9:10 Comments || Top||

#6  3dc, I agree totally, plus....there's really nothing in it for Hillary.

Looks like he's stuck with ol' Plugs!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 9:14 Comments || Top||

#7  I watched Obama on O'Reilly and Bill was (I thought) a little softer than usual. But Obama couldn't stand up to the very mild counters and questions - he muffed a number of them. How can this guy believe he can sit down with Mohamed Iamanidiot, Chavez, Kimmie et.al. and be convincingly strong and determined? He has already started to beat the war drums that in the primaries were off limits in any topic. He is a very weak man and a bit of confused one at that.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 09/05/2008 10:46 Comments || Top||

#8  Jack is Back! What are you talking about? He just sat down with the enemy for an interview, those other names would just be like minded folk, not a problem. Just give them what they want.

/snark
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 11:05 Comments || Top||

#9  http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

Gallup tracking, same period, Obama by 2%.

Rasmussen tracking, a day later, Obama by 7%.

Must be CBS bias ;)
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/05/2008 11:13 Comments || Top||

#10  I heard it described that barack's poll numbers are "steady in the saddle", whatever that means. Lot of cowboys out here and when I've ridden the only time someone is steady in the saddle is when the horse aint moving, otherwise it only looks easy because of the experience of the cowboy. Personally, I'd pay money to see bo cowboy for a day. I'd pay extra to watch him try and walk the next couple days.

The only topic I wanted to see brought up at the RNC is a public calling out for a debate...perhaps it wasn't the time for it but it needs to be done.

Both tickets owe it to the electorate to have debates.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 11:16 Comments || Top||

#11  On CNN last night I heard that the CBS poll was pre-Palin, well I guess it was pre-Palin's speech eh? LH you are surely suffering in these times. Wo to you and the leftists when the "great what hope" that is Obammy is sent back to his commy cohorts the big loser. I really enjoy the media attacks on Palin too, they show the utter desperation that exists in the uber-liberal circles and their media. Anderson cooper, with his typical gay bias, almost had a shit fit last night after Palin's video biography was played. It was downright comedic. He got snarky with Wolf Blitzer and almost cried I think. Biden...landslide...oMFG. Talk about drinking the kool-aid. Only beltway insiders give a rat's-ass about Biden. This whole show so plays into Hillary and Bill's plan to destroy Obammy, just as they did Gore and Kerry. Freakin Hillaryous...yes that is an attempt at a pun. Hillary ain't down in Florida to turn the base of Jewish voters back to Obammy, she's down there shoring up her own base of support. She's got big plans for 2012, not to mention some outstanding campaign debt. I'd love to see Lieberman's phone records right now to see how often he's in communication with Bill. Bill is no doubt saying..."mention Israel again, mention Israel some more." Without the Jewish vote Obammy is done. But the O was never going to win anyway, so all this is just comedy. One question for the crowd, what is that lapel pin Gov. Palin is wearing. The small, white, rectangular one? Looks like the Israeli flag to me.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 13:10 Comments || Top||

#12  EHLTB, liberalhawk has long been hoping for Hillary Clinton to be the Democrat strong on the War on Terror. As for the Jewish vote, Jews make up under 2% of the U.S. population. If Candidate Obama thought their vote was critical, he would not have surrounded himself with exclusively pro-Palestinian advisers. Finally, Governor Palin's pin is probably an Alaskan flag -- she is after all proud to be governor of the state of Alaska.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 13:23 Comments || Top||

#13  My prediction, The Lord of the Hoops will NOT get the Jewish vote, nor will he get the vote of ladies over 40.


Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 13:28 Comments || Top||

#14  TW, yeah well umm...yeah...

Indeed LH loves HilllBilly doesn't he. I've been reading LH's post for a few years now. I'm well aware of his leanings. I like his posts sometimes. I just generally don't agree with him on political matters. That being said...I trust Bil and Hill's judgement on foreign policy matters far more than the O or his scrappy doo VP pick. I just don't agree with their goals.

And that 2% you speak of means shit. The Jewish community's influence extends far beyond their numbers on the electoral map. This ain't some elder's of zion conspiracy theory crap, just a fact. The Jewish comunity should be and are very proud of this fact. Particularly in the Democratic establishment.

Indeed Gov. Palin is undoubtedly proud of her home state. However, the Alaska State Flag looks nothing like that. Alaska's state flag is blue with gold stars. You were in grade school when they still taught geography and civics TW, you should know this.

I thought it might be a special pin for her son's military service or something like that. It is definitely not the Alaska state flag.

Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 14:06 Comments || Top||

#15  It's a Blue Star Mother flag indicating she has a child in military service.
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 14:35 Comments || Top||

#16  Point taken on the flag, EHLTB. I didn't actually fail geography back in the day, I'm proud to say, mostly because I was good at coloring within the lines. Alaska is north of California, right? ;-) Actually, I didn't know what the state flag looks like. I probably should google that, so next time I make a different mistake. Probably something to do with her son's unit, I'd think. Gov. Palin hasn't actually spoken about Israel, and her expertise is most decidedly not in matters international, so I'm not sure why she would wear an Israeli flag for the second most important day of her career.

Friends?

In general I would agree with you about influence, but the Obama campaign already has plenty of money and volunteer... and in an election one finally only has one's own vote. So yes, being under 2% matters at this point, even if a few districts have considerably higher concentrations. If the Jewish community's influence were a concern to dear Barack Obama, he would have not surrounded himself with anti-Zionist, antisemitic advisors... not to mention his friends and mentors.

Yes, the Biden thingy was quite silly. liberalhawk doesn't usually make such egregious errors of fact.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 14:40 Comments || Top||

#17  Personally, I'd pay money to see bo cowboy for a day. I'd pay extra to watch him try and walk the next couple days.

swksvolFF, if that ever happens, could you get me a ticket? I just wanna see if he tucks his designer jeans in his boots.

Posted by: Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields || 09/05/2008 15:06 Comments || Top||

#18  TW et all,

I appreciate your comments, no need for formalities here, you may call me Elvis. Let me predicate my statements by saying that I am a McCain supporter, and have been.

Now to the meat of it. First, the public's votes don't win elections, not our presidential elections at least, electoral college votes do. I agree with your assertions about Obammy and his anti-Israel/anti-zionist positions. It is, however of significant note that Lieberman and Giuliani both mentioned Israel in their speeches. Quite a stretch for 2% methinks.

I would argue that there are spheres of influence within the Democratic, as any, political establishment and that they are at times together and at other times at war. An easy argument I know. Two of those sphere's within the democratic establishment are the zionists and the anti-zionists or as some call them, anti-semitics.

The reasons why the Zionists vs. Anti-zionists are at war within the Democratic establishment over Obammy are as you stated obvious. This war has escalated substantially as Hill was cast aside and the hopes of continuing good fortune for the zionists in the D establishment looked bleak. All is not lost if the zionists lose the executive connection, it just makes life a little harder. Now, that war has spilled out of the box, the D establishment box that is, and McCain will be the partner that the zionists will have to work with.

Bush/Cheney were brothers to the zionists...dare I say... almost puppets in some instances as lotp might tell us, with her knowledge of Doug Feith and his band of merry men. Now is the time for the McCain camp, and the "new Republican party", to show its continued zeal for close relationships to Israel, and do so very very publicly as I am sure they have privately. That way the checks will come in too. Thus my speculation on Palin's pin being the Israeli flag, Bill being on the pone to Lieberman, etc...etc...

Palin is an unknown quantity from what is no doubt viewed as a political backwater by the zionist establishment. Surely her trustworthiness must be in question as the AIPAC lobbyist have not had time to vet her because of her absence from DC. Wearing an Israeli flag would send a signal loud and clear, again thus my speculation.

My ignorance of military insignia, however got the better of this whole line of thought. So it is moot to argue the spheres of Israel's influence both domestic and indeed worldwide and the ramifications on Sarah Palin's choice of lapel pins. That being said I shall return to my hole. I rarely comment here, politics is just my thing, but now I grow tired of typing.

Thanks to everyone who helped me out on what the lapel pin really is. I knew I would find the answer among ye honorable 'Burgers.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 16:30 Comments || Top||

#19  I rarely comment here.

Our loss.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 16:32 Comments || Top||

#20  Elvis, lotp would not use terms like 'puppet' on this topic and would not think them, either.
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 16:45 Comments || Top||

#21  Actually, there has been a vibrant Jewish community in Alaska since the Gold Rush. Pretty active politically, too. Some of them comment here.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 16:56 Comments || Top||

#22  It was not myintention to speak for you, I was just giving your expertise in this area kudos. However, Doug Feith, nuff said, but I digress..indeed I need not tell you what you already know.

I do not at any point doubt Dick Cheney's prowess in matters of international conflict and security. But where there's smoke, and there's a lot of it with Doug Feith, there is often fire. Let's just say his "relationships" were and are questionable and that whatever information passed across his desk can be considered compromised, and anything that was generated out of OSP under his watch about as reliable as most anything out of DEBKA.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 17:02 Comments || Top||

#23  Palin is an unknown quantity from what is no doubt viewed as a political backwater by the zionist establishment. Surely her trustworthiness must be in question as the AIPAC lobbyist have not had time to vet her because of her absence from DC. Wearing an Israeli flag would send a signal loud and clear, again thus my speculation.


So basically you think she puts at risk all of the dozen or so Zionist Mastermind votes the Rethuglicans were going to get in the fall?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 18:07 Comments || Top||

#24  AS,

your comments have 0 relevance, and speak to your ignorance, so go away.

lotp,

I was on my way back to my hole, but you've roused me with your comment.

"Would not think them either", what does that mean? If you were just defending Bush/Cheney from criticism, well, I still see smoke with OSP as does anyone who's not blinded by partisan hackery. I'll debate OSP's quality of information and the negative influence it has had on Bush/Cheney all day long.

But, anytime someone mentions the Jewish community and/or Israel they need not be cast as an anti-semite. Let's not go PC here lotp, and shy away from talking about relevant subject matter if that was your intention. You can think or not think what you like. I will not answer to the thought police. Especially not on the Burg. If that was not your intention then I apologize for assuming so.

Just to let you know I'm not an anti-semite, in fact I find the idea of it laughable. Unlike most, I have actually been to and worked in Israel and the Middle East. I support Israel with my words and often my work, thus my interest in Gov Palin's lapel pin.

TW, since I am aware of most of the regulars' credentials as I am yours it's only fair that I dish the dirt on myself as well. I have advanced degrees in Political Science/Government, have traveled the globe extensively, have worked in politics/government on three continents, in the state houses and on the Hill for more than a few years just to frame my comments. I have what some might call relevant experience and a bit of expertise in political matters. That's why
I comment on them.

I am just making conversation in relation to my question about Gov Palin's lapel pin. If anyone is offended by that they should ignore my comments.

I don't doubt there is a politically active Jewish population in Alaska, at least in Anchorage. I'll be there in a few weeks in fact and when I return I will hopefully be able to better speak to the facts. I would still assume they would be considered backwater by anyone on the Hill or in Israel. Alaska prides itself in being backwater doesn't it?

But someone in the Jewish community in Alaska might have a better idea about Palin's relationship with said community if they care to comment. Perhaps someone with some knowledge of Palin's record on all matters Israel(if any such record exists) might speak up.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 18:34 Comments || Top||

#25  I'm neither Jewish nor Alaskan, Elvis, but will this do?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/05/2008 18:53 Comments || Top||

#26  EHLTB, Hell I was in Grade School when Alaska was admitted to the Union.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/05/2008 19:03 Comments || Top||

#27  I appreciate you sharing your background, Elvis. That does shape how I read posts.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 19:04 Comments || Top||

#28  LH, not sure where you got Obama +7.

CBS News
Dates:: 09/01-09/03
size: 734 RV
Obama: 42
McCain: 42
Tie

Rasmussen Tracking
Dates: 09/02 - 09/04
Size: 3000 LV
Obama: 48
McCain: 46
Obama +2

Notice that the CBS poll completed before either Palin or McCain spoke. The Rasmussen poll concluded one day after Palin spoke but before McCain's speech.

Wait till Monday's or Tuesday's polls to see what bounce resulted from the Repub's convention.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 19:09 Comments || Top||

#29  LH is whistling past the political graveyard right now. Next step is denial. Sad to see the downslide...
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#30  TW and lotp,

I apologize if I am coming across as an asshole. It is very hard to type feelings and intentions and comments can be easily misunderstood. I found out what I needed to know should have left it at that. Thanks again for engaging me. I appreciate your comments and frames of reference.

Regards,

Elvis
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 19:14 Comments || Top||

#31  Barbara, that will do very very well. Thanks much.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 19:17 Comments || Top||

#32  However, Doug Feith, nuff said, but I digress..indeed I need not tell you what you already know.

Hmm.

Then you say:
AS,

your comments have 0 relevance, and speak to your ignorance, so go away.


You're going to tell _me_ to go away while you go about the cheap-ass debating tactic of dancing around an allegation without once having to say outright something you'll have to defend?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 19:31 Comments || Top||

#33  AS,

yes, I will; because I think lotp knows exactly what I speak of when I criticize Doug Feith and the OSP in relation to Israel. She's an expert. Do you claim such expertise?

There are few who would defend his actions or OSP given his/their record. Perhaps you do not know anything about it or maybe you do. You obviously didn't understand what I was saying in the comment you pulled completely out of context. Either way that is of no concern to me because I was not speaking to you.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 19:55 Comments || Top||

#34  Don't pull me into your wink wink nudge nudge "I'm not anti-semitic but we ALL KNOW (those of us in the know) that Feith was compromised" crap Elvis.   I know nothing of the kind.  
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 20:06 Comments || Top||

#35  Either way that is of no concern to me because I was not speaking to you.

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Ah. You only speak to the experts. (Hmm, where'd she go, anyway? She was just here.)

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So great was the power that Saruman exerted in this last effort that none that stood within hearing were unmoved. But now the spell was wholly different. They heard the gentle remonstrance of a kindly king with an erring but much-loved minister. But they were shut out, listening at a door to words not meant for them; ill-mannered children or stupid servants overhearing the elusive discourse of heir elders, and wondering how it would affect their lot. Of loftier mould these two were made: reverend and wise. It was inevitable that they should make alliance. Gandalf would ascend into the tower, to discuss deep things geyond their comprehension in the high chambers of Orthanc. The door would be closed, and they would be left outside, dismissed to await allotted work or punishment. Even in the mind of Théoden the thought took shape, like a shadow of doubt: 'He will betray us; he will go -- we shall be lost.'
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 20:16 Comments || Top||

#36  Ah, there she is. (Sorry, didn't see you when I posted that).
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/05/2008 20:18 Comments || Top||

#37  Yes, it did have that shape didn't it AS?
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 20:44 Comments || Top||

#38  lotp,

Please allow me to be a little more precise in my comments:

I am not asserting that you think Feith was compromised by certain elements of the Mossad through his personal connections and those of his law partners. Although it is likely true.

I am simply referring to the fact that you know about the allegations against Feith because of your expertise and that is why I did not feel the need to further extrapolate on my argument about Feith being compromised with you.

I am quite well aware that you are sympathetic to the neo view of the world. I can only assume through your apparent defense of Feith that you probably agreed with Cheney's decision to circumvent the real intelligence community and kabal only with friends in an attempt to justify war with Iraq using Al Qeada regardless of any proof of any real connections to Al Qaeda. Your posts indicate such.

That being said I agreed with our decision to attack Iraq and with our policy to support Israel diplomatically and Militarily. I've walked the walk. But bullshit hack intelligence generated by a bunch of lawyers in Feith's buddy club is exactly the kind of shit that makes the American people distrustful of government and why the R's are having so much trouble at the polls of late.

Doug Feith's actions can be interpreted as being not only unethical and inappropriate, but also criminal in a system where law rules. The end does not justify the means. Fake bullshit hack intelligence has no place in America's decision to go to war and we don't need a private PR shop disguised as an intelligence unit making policy recommendations or decisions for our President. George got screwed by these bastards.

How's that for nudge-nudge wink wink. I call your bullshit, and I think you probably know more than most the kind of garbage that came out of that office when Doug Feith was there. He's a hack who manipulated intelligence to make the War justified because that's what certain bodies within the Israeli govt and intelligence agencies wanted.

Honesty would have worked fine in sending us to War against the Baathists, and there was plenty of reason to make Saddam a black spot in the sand without such hackery and dishonesty.

I am not the first nor the most "in the know" person to make these allegations against Feith. I do, however assert that what Feith did with the OSP was wrong and unAmerican. No nation and nor their intelligence agency, no matter how friendly to the US, should drive America's foreign or defense policy.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 21:00 Comments || Top||

#39  I'm putting in a buy order for Alcoa, now!
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 21:07 Comments || Top||

#40  Well, asserting that OSP was staffed by hacks and lawyers is a dead giveaway Elvis. You'll need to be a tad more circumspect in your insinuations if you want to rope in the unwary.

Here's a hint to help you avoid obvious errors: the 'real intelligence community' is in good part made up of and staffed by DOD personnel - and was before Feith and Cheney settled in after 2000. And that's the last free hint I feel inclined to throw your way on this one ....
Posted by: lotp || 09/05/2008 21:11 Comments || Top||

#41  Yeah thanks for enlightening me lotp. What? You think you are educating me? Don't play that shit with me. I ain't one of your kids or some wandering troll. I play this game for a living as do you. I just don't like what you have to say, generally.

You are in a long line of neo's who are marrying themselves to Feith in your defense of OSP. You declare OSP was made up of DoD huh? It is well known that OSP was full of hacks and they employed dozens of people with no intelligence gathering or analyst experience perhaps not as staff but as "consultants". Or are you just reeling in the unwary? Their only qualifications were their like-mindedness with Feith and his agenda. OSP was overwhelmingly made up of these types, and nothing, nada, zip came out of OSP without Feith shaping it and clearing it personally.

Feith was the undersecretary of Defense and Feith was also acused many times of passing information to Ariel Sharon and the Likuds and extremists agents within the Mossad. Hell, the mainstream Mossad wouldn't even touch the shit he and the Likud were spewing. He is a hack, a hack, and his departure and the subsequent success of the Iraq war once handed back to real military minds and not agenda driven lawyers and no nothings like him is a good indicator of his "skill level" and that of the OSP, but don't take my word for it.

Others, with better credentials have made similar statements.

Let's start with SOS Condaleeza Rice.

According to the long-running Washington newsletter, The Nelson Report, edited by Christopher Nelson, quoting an anonymous source, Feith was standing in for Rumsfeld at a 2003 interagency 'Principals' Meeting' debating the Middle East, and ended his remarks on behalf of the Pentagon. Then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice said, "Thanks Doug, but when we want the Israeli position we'll invite the ambassador."

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell

States Secretary of State Colin Powell called Feith's operation at the Pentagon the "Gestapo" office, alleging that it amounted to a separate, unchecked governing authority within the Pentagon.

Former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of State, Larry Wilkerson

Regarding Feith and his colleague, David Wurmser, Wilkerson has stated:

A lot of these guys, including Wurmser, I looked at as card-carrying members of the Likud party, as I did with Feith. You wouldnÂ’t open their wallet and find a card, but I often wondered if their primary allegiance was to their own country or to Israel. That was the thing that troubled me, because there was so much that they said and did that looked like it was more reflective of Israel's interest than our own.

Former CENTCOM Deputy Director, Lt. General Michael DeLong

In an interview with PBS on February 14, 2006, General Michael DeLong was asked about the information coming from Feith's office in the lead-up to the Iraq war. He replied:

Feith wasn't somebody we enjoyed working with, and to go much further than that would probably not be a good thing. To be honest, we blew him off lots of times. Told the secretary that he's full of baloney, his people working for him are full of baloney. It was a real distraction for us, because he was the number three guy in the Department of Defense.

Also...
His cohorts and subordinates were convicted for spying for elements of the Israeli Likud party:
A subordinate of Feith's, Larry Franklin, was convicted, and sentenced to 12 years in Federal prison in 2005 for charges in an espionage scandal. Franklin was accused and convicted of passing classified information to an Israeli diplomat and Steven Rosen, an employee of the Israeli AIPAC lobby.

It is asserted that Feith himself was dismissed from govt service in 1982 because he leaked classified information to Israeli agents.

According to The Guardian, which I do not generally read: Feith's office had an unconventional relationship with Israel's intelligence services:

The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.

One high ranking official in the Secretary of State's Office. "None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels", said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.

The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party.
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Yes, these statements are one sided against Feith and OSP. There are Feith supporters, but these allegations and many others are there, and not made lightly.

There are a lot of opinions on this matter and I have stated mine: What Feith did was un-American. Defend him and the OSP all you want. OSP was under his direction, and was shit, offered shit and represents the worst of what government can become if unchecked.

Til next time lotp. Last conversation we had you were lambasting Sen. McCain. Perhaps we can have another conversation on Sen. McCain sometime soon, perhaps when he is our President. I will enjoy that.
Posted by: EHLTB || 09/05/2008 23:37 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Legislators mull free-will marriage laws
Karachi legislators proposed on Thursday that new legislation and an altered mindset was necessary to prevent the murder of women who want to marry who they chose. Recent murders of women in Balochistan have raised questions over whether new legislation is needed to pre-empt and prevent such incidents. Sindh Minister for Rural Development Zubair Ahmed Khan said the murder and undeclared burial of five women in Balochistan had given Pakistan a bad name globally. "Effective legislation and immediate measures are required to prevent illiterate people from using violent means against women," he said. MPA Humera Alwani told Daily Times she would propose legislation for marriage of choice. "Marriages should be undertaken with mutual free will of the couples and the guardian should also respect the free will for a successful marriage," she said. She declared the Balochistan case karo kari and said the district police officer should register first information reports in such cases because relatives are behind such killing and will not start proceedings themselves. "I shall try my best to propose new legislation in the Sindh Assembly after the presidential election," she said. MNA Fauzia Wahab said without changes in tribal mindset, no real change was possible regarding tribal customs.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Welcome to the 18th Century, boys! You're on your way!
Posted by: Alistaire Craith1469 || 09/05/2008 16:14 Comments || Top||


Burying women alive is murder: clerics
Clerics of different schools of thought have condemned the incident in which women in Balochistan were buried alive, something that is "illegitimate murder" according to the scripture, they said. "This is illegitimate killing and according to the Holy Quran and Sunnah or the way of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), whether the slayer is a king or a slave, they need to be punished like a culprit," explained the chairman of the Ruet-e-Hilal Committee of Pakistan and the principal of Darul Uloom Naeemia, Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman on Thursday while talking to Daily Times. One of the Hadith elaborates that victims of such crimes will raise their voices before Allah on the Day of Judgment and will point to the culprits and the rulers of that time as well, Mufti Rehman said.

Such incidents remind Allama Syed Aun Muhammad Naqvi of the Stone Age. "Hazrat Ali (RA) said that when the sweat of a rapist falls on the soil, the soil hates that man," he said. "The cries of the victims and the innocent shake the land and the sky and Allah visits His disaster on that place." He said that just as Hazrat Imam Hussain (RA) will question the tragedy that happened to him, each sufferer would ask Allah for an explanation. Therefore, Allama Naqvi added, it is the responsibility of the rulers to take immediate action against the culprits. "Not even a husband, brother, son, father or relative has the right to kill a woman who is found in an illegal physical relation with someone," explained the principal of Jamia Darul Khair Gulistan-e-Johar Mufti Yar Khan. "And even if they do, they still can't kill her because it would be murder."
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#1  Burying women alive is murder: clerics

...especially if you get caught.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 14:47 Comments || Top||


'Burying women alive a relic of pre-Islamic era of ignorance'
The Madadgaar Help Line Trust has strongly condemned the death sentence pronounced by the self-appointed jirga courts, which later buried women alive in Balochistan. This incident is a relic of the pre-Islamic era of ignorance, it said.

Addressing a press conference on Wednesday, the trust's chief Zia Awan said that the government has failed miserably in providing a safe environment for women and as a result, this odious custom continues under the patronage of the government. Now karo kari, is being called a regional custom, is also used to perpetrate atrocities against women.

"We feel great anguish and distress for the five victims of the Imrani tribe who were subjected to inhumane, illegal and immoral killings with the State's backing and demand that the United Nations take notice of this matter," he told the media.

It is shocking to see that the government of Pakistan is striving hard on the international front to contain terrorism, while on the home front, terrorism against women continues in connivance with the government and we strongly deplore this, he said.

According to the law, marriages forced by parents and families are null and void and women have the freedom to marry out of choice under religion and law. It is appalling that women are still forced to marry against their will in Pakistan, which gives rise to many social problems. These failed marriages also have negative effects on children.

In the last eight years, 6,111 women and 340 underage girls and boys have been subjected to atrocities. In the same period, 1,869 women became burns victims, 10,696 women kidnapped, 640 trafficked, 420 recorded as forcibly married and 764 women subjected to vani.

This last year alone, 353 women lost their lives to regain the honor of their families, while 105 women were forcibly married and 115 women victimized under the custom of vani.

Despite being a state signatory to the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW), Pakistan shows a disturbing rise in cases of violence, trafficking, murder and torture inflicted on women. By ratifying the convention, Pakistan has committed to undertake a series of measures against discrimination, but statistics of crimes and violence against women continue to rise. Discriminatory customs against women and the death sentences meted out by self-appointed courts (jirgas) are a flagrant violation of the law and a source of great humiliation for Pakistan in the international community.

Ineffective laws, negligence on the part of the police force, unemployment, hopelessness among the general public and anti-social elements are the main factors responsible for crimes. The current situation cannot be improved without taking practical steps against these factors and it is high time to take action against all perpetrators, whether individuals or groups, responsible for any violence against women.

Karo Kari, honor killing, is an unfortunate tradition practised all over Pakistan to 'safeguard' the honor of the family at the expense of the woman, he said. Murdering a woman or girl in the family on the pretext of her having illicit relations with some man is no new tradition. The only way to rid the country of this custom is to arrest, convict and severely punish those practising it.

The growing cases of human rights violations against women have proved to be cumbersome for organizations that are working in this field. The horrific reported cases provided an incentive to the government to introduce this bill. However, the women of this country can never be provided safety unless there is awareness amongst the police, judiciary and the society about the rights of women. As per the signatory status of Pakistan, according to the CEDAW article 3, "States Parties shall take steps in all fields to ensure... human rights and fundamental freedoms on a basis of equality with men", it is incumbent on the government to take appropriate measures to ensure the full development of women for the purpose of guaranteeing them equal rights.

Data collected by Madadgaar Help line for women and children suffering from violence, abuse and exploitation reveals that 2,782 women were victimized in the country from January to August 2008. Many more victims do not report their cases out of fear of social stigma and discrimination by the police and the authorities, so it is speculated that the collected figures are only the tip of the iceberg. Real figures are likely to be ten times higher, speculated Awan.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  'Burying women alive a relic of pre-Islamic era of ignorance'

Now, in the post-mohamheadian era of ignorance, they are despised, dehumanized, spit on, raped, beaten to death, disfigured, buried, and forgotten. But not necessarily in that order.
Posted by: gorb || 09/05/2008 1:26 Comments || Top||

#2  moslems often say how much Islam has improved women's lives

however, they all agree that before marrying Mohammd, his first wife was a successful businesswoman

Posted by: mhw || 09/05/2008 5:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Seems the Islamic savages of Balochistan disagree with you, pal.
Posted by: mojo || 09/05/2008 10:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Burying women alive and other forms of honor killing are all "pre-islamic" examples of ignorance, huh? So you concede for the past 1400 years islam has failed to instill any sense of decency or the rudiments of civilization, right? I mean it's not like there is any compulsion in islam, right?

Posted by: MarkZ || 09/05/2008 19:42 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
U.N. Chief: Efforts to Reform Have Failed
Johnson! Stop the presses!!
UNITED NATIONS -- U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon decried turf wars in the global organization during a private speech in which he also acknowledged bluntly that his first 20 months in office have been a failure.
So I guess I'll just skate through the next four years like everybody else did...
Ban labeled the organization a "huge bureaucracy," according to a transcript Newsmax obtained of the speech he delivered to senior staffers at an annual closed conclave during the weekend in Turin, Italy.
UN "huge bureaucracy". Film at eleven...
That bureaucracy indicates that U.S. efforts to reform the United Nations, starting with then-U.S. Ambassador Madeleine K. Albright and continuing through six U.S. representatives spanning more than 16 years, have come up short.
Oh. So it's not the UN's fault of course...
"We must admit this. ... We must acknowledge how resistant we are to change. It cripples us in our most important job to function as a team. ... Here at the UN, unfortunately, I see people too often putting their own interests first. ... I see too many turf fights, too much intramural wrangling, too much protectiveness of the status quo," the U.N. chief said.
Damn straight, Ban Man. Waiter, more wine.
"I see little evidence of a change in mindset," he said. "We get too bogged down in internal or bureaucratic technicalities. We waste incredible amounts of time on largely meaningless matters."
Waiter, could I get some more shrimp. And would it be too much trouble to make sure it's cold this time.
The staff's task is to change the U.N. to change the world, Ban said, adding, " This is the big picture. I am frustrated by our failure so often to see it. ... Department heads squabble among themselves over posts and budgets and bureaucratic prerogatives, as though they owned them. But our departments, agencies and programs are not personal fiefdoms."
Might as well burn it down and collect the insurance...
The secretary-general also acknowledged what has been whispered in the halls of the U.N.'s New York City headquarters: He has not gained the trust of the organization's rank and file. "I tried to lead by example. Nobody followed."
Well ain't that a kick in the ass, huh, Ban Man?
Ban's address lent credence to what many inside the world body have been talking about for almost a year, that electing the former South Korean foreign minister in 2006 was a mistake.
So he'll resign, of course, right? Right?
Many veteran diplomats often complained that Ban simply did not know how the U.N. operated. Others raised questions of competency when a veteran U.N. staffer, Angela Kane of Germany recently was promoted to a key post as undersecretary-general for management. The promotion came despite the fact that investigators with the U.N.'s Office of Internal Oversight Services severely criticized her previous performances. The elevation raised eyebrows among U.N. staffers.
Sounds perfect for the job to me...
The Kane appointment is just one decision on a long list of what many inside the organization have questioned. Echoing the internal criticism are several diplomats, including those from the United States who were instrumental in getting the South Korean elected. And U.S. State Department officials privately wonder whether Ban has enough support to seek a second five-year term in 2112.
Still, that's four more years on the gravy train, Ban Man...
Ban's troubles come during the first stage of the U.N.'s five-year renovation project to rehabilitate its headquarters. The so-called Capital Master Plan, begun in May with a projected cost of $2 billion, is said to be more than $200 million over budget.
Geez, that's all? I'd consider that progress.
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#1  Well, I could suggest something that would help them reform - have the US cut off all funding. They can keep the current building if they want to, but any new building must be built elsewhere on somebody else's dime. Preferably someplace like Khartoum, Sudan.
Of course, if Bambi gets elected, we will instead double our contribution and build them a new building for free.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 09/05/2008 13:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Took him 20 months to figure that out? Well, at least he's forthright and honest.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/05/2008 13:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Most honest statement I've heard out of the UN, maybe forever. Am I brave enough to believe that there may be more coming? Nah.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/05/2008 15:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Here at the UN, unfortunately, I see people too often putting their own interests first. ..

Too bad he's a babbling idiot.
Posted by: Ebbatch Scourge of the Faith7719 || 09/05/2008 17:49 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm willing to pay for it IF they move to the Sudan.

Better yet - put it in Israel - getting bombed may clear their heads.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/05/2008 20:46 Comments || Top||


UN says wealthy failing the poor
The world's wealthiest countries are failing to deliver on their promises to give money to the world's poorest nations, a UN report says.
Because people in poor countries are incapble of generating wealth themselves.
The UN report on progress towards the millennium development goals says this is threatening targets for drastically reducing world poverty by 2015.
You cannot reduce poverty by giving people money. They have to generate wealth. It is even less likely that you can reduce poverty by giving money to 3rd world bureaucrats. We've been doing it for at least 60 years and it hasn't worked yet.
The UN report says there has been some improvement but not enough.
Where's the improvement?
World leaders signed up to ambitious goals eight years ago aimed at reducing poverty, hunger and disease by 2015. Now the UN report says wealthy countries are not living up to the commitments they made at the Gleneagles summit in 2005 - and aid needs to be increased by $18bn a year.
Who's going to provide that dough? And who's gonna receive the boodle?
Although progress has been made on debt relief for the poorest countries, assurances given on trade and development have not been honoured.
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#1  "The world's wealthiest countries are failing to deliver on their promises to give money to the world's poorest nations provide more new Toyota Landcruisers (in white with leather upholstery, please...and don't forget the XM Satellite Radio), 5-star hotel suites and teenage prostitutes for our officials , a UN report says."

There. Fixed it.
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 09/05/2008 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  The worlds poorest counties are failing the wealthy by not removing their corrupt leadership who syphon aid off and implement socialist policies the ensure poverty and ignorance.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 0:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The UN report says there has been some improvement but not enough.

"Anton at the bar at Le Palace Hilton in Geneva has finally learnt to mix a proper Bloody Mary (we were *quite* firm with him the last time), but the Tounedos Rossini are simply wretched. We really must have a word with the chef - his staff have been skimping on the truffles lately."
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/05/2008 1:26 Comments || Top||

#4  "UN failing to provide booze and income stream protection to drunk, worthless NGO losers who failed have to succeed in private sector."

To sum up.
Posted by: no mo uro || 09/05/2008 5:45 Comments || Top||

#5  "the UN report says wealthy countries are not living up to the commitments they made"
Kyoto Syndrome?
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 7:35 Comments || Top||

#6  translation: "Our cut is not meeting expectations"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 7:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Looks like a job for an international "community organizer". And I'm sure there are many willing to step up. Just try to not get killed in the stampede.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/05/2008 8:45 Comments || Top||

#8  The US is shipping nearly $1 trillion of its wealth overseas each year. We've done more than enough to enrich everyone else and its well past time to stop this insanity.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 9:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Ricky, that describes Siem Reip, Cambodia to a T.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 11:18 Comments || Top||


Iraq
China and Iraq sign oil mega-deal
China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), Asia's biggest oil and gas company, has signed a three billion dollar agreement to develop and operate Iraq's al Ahdab oil field under a 20-year service contract.

The agreement is the first major oil deal reached between Iraq, which has about one third of the world's largest reserves, and a foreign firm.

Iraq's Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani has said that time was running out for big western firms to conclude the deals they have been negotiating for many years.

The Minister said that the two sides had renegotiated the terms of an old deal which was signed back in 1997 concerning the development of the Adhab oil field.

The contract has been changed from an oil production sharing agreement into a set-fee service deal.

Production from the oilfield will be raised to 110,000 barrels a day (b/d) from 90,000 b/d as provided in the initial contract.

Currently, Iraq is believed to be pumping 2.4 million b/d and plans to increase output by 500,000 b/d before the end of next year.
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#1  We'll know who to give Iran to when the time comes.
Posted by: gorb || 09/05/2008 1:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I think this is healthy in a way. Gives the Chicoms a vested interest in the stability of Iraq.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 09/05/2008 3:55 Comments || Top||

#3  This is a much better deal for Iraq than the one Saddam Hussein originally signed. China has to invest more into developing the field, and gets paid just for that, rather than taking half of what came out of the ground.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/05/2008 4:50 Comments || Top||

#4  This is NOT "healthy" if it is a trend. That's all we need -- having the Chicoms running the oil production business for 20 years. They can strangle us anytime they want to by walking off the job at the locations that provide oil to us.
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 7:32 Comments || Top||

#5  We do the heavy lifting and the Chicoms get the oil. Nice work if you can get it. All the more reason for energy independence from the ME.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/05/2008 8:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Anything that gets more oil out into the market to counter the growing demands created by not only China but also India, is a good thing. The sooner we develop our own domestic resources, the sooner others will have to pick up the full ticket to get the stuff on their own dime.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  What is the Chinese track record in pumping oil?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/05/2008 11:45 Comments || Top||

#8  I'll believe there's progress when our oil imports are near Zero(There'll always be some "Specialty" oils imported)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:38 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Amnesty fears for migrants deported by Israel
An international human rights groups said on Thursday it feared for the safety of 91 African migrants deported by Israel to Egypt last month, saying they risked being held incommunicado and then sent on to unsafe countries.
"So you should keep them. Permanently. And feed them. And take care of them. And raise their children. But don't tell them what to do. That'd be racist."
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about telling that most of them were fleeing massacres pêrpetrated by Arabs? (cf Darfur)
Posted by: JFM || 09/05/2008 17:12 Comments || Top||


Police recommendation on Olmert 'in a few days'
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Science & Technology
Scientists get death threats over Large Hadron Collider
Scientists working on the world's biggest machine are being besieged by phone calls and emails from people who fear the world will end next Wednesday, when the gigantic atom smasher starts up.

The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, where particles will begin to circulate around its 17 mile circumference tunnel next week, will recreate energies not seen since the universe was very young, when particles smash together at near the speed of light.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 10:20 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry about the URL crunch:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/05/scilhc105.xml
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 10:22 Comments || Top||

#2  I may lay off a large bet that the universe doesn't disappear in a flash of light, if I can find a sucker to bet the other way.
Posted by: mojo || 09/05/2008 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Moose, no URL is too long for Fred's poster. No need for tinyURL.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/05/2008 13:01 Comments || Top||

#4  I know, but I am in the habit of doing it elsewhere as a convenience, and slipped up.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 13:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Wednesday is senior citizen discount day at the super market. I will buy green bananas on that day.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/05/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Watch out for temporal beings' nesting in the collider.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 17:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Live footage from the startup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4POoMgjoH5s
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/05/2008 18:39 Comments || Top||

#8  ANOTHER "BIRTH PANG" OF GLOBALISM = OWG-NWO, + A BIG 'UN TO BOOT.

MINOR WORM/BLACK-HOLES have been appearing over the skies of GUAM-WESTPAC, which I personally don't believe is linked to SOLAR-SPACE ACTIVITY NOT OF EARTH. I do believe these same are responsible for the spate of HURRICANES in the Atlantic and other.

IRONY >= IFF ONE BELIEVES THAT HUMANITY IS AT RISK OF PENDING SEVERE CATASTROPHE(S), EVEN EXTINCTION, AS PER UNCONTROLLED/RUNAWAY GLOBAL WARMING = MMGW [NEAR-TERM] VEE VARIOUS MSM-NET MMGW PERTS, THEN BY THEIR OWN SCOPE > THESE HOLES ONE DAY MAY PROVE TO BE THE SALVATION OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE [Time-SPace Travel, etc.]???

E.g. MANHATTAN PROJECT = ATOM BOMB, HYDROGEN + THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS INCLUD "CHINA SYNDROME" > great debates occurred amongst Academic and Govt Perts as to the POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES FOR MANKIND, "NORMAL" INTERNATIONAL POLITICS, AND THE VERY SURVIVAL OF EARTH AS WE KNEW IT, ETC. AS A CONSEQUENCE OF DEV AND DETONATING A WORKING PROTOTYPE(S) OF THESE NEW TECHS.

IOW, FEW IFF ANY WERE ABSOLUT CERTAIN OF THE OUTCOME, INCLUD FAMOUS OR NOTED SCIENTISTS, UNTIL WORKING BOMBS WERE ACTUALLY BUILT AND DETONATED.

A similar premise underlined. among other, why the USA sent DOGS + CHIMPS INTO EARTH ORBIT BEFORE HUMANS!?

FDR > WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR EXCEPT FEAR ITSELF.

OWG-NWO = "SAVE THE WHALES, BUT MANKIND/HUMANITY" MUST PERISH", BEFORE WHALES, ETC DO AND WIDOUT HUMANITY MAKIMG ANY ATTEMPT TO SAVE HIMSELF???

WE NEED TO SAFELY CONTROL AND OPERATE THESE HOLES!

Unless of course, MMGW Doomsayers/Prophets wish to PUBLICLY RECANT ["Clarify"]THEIR CLAIMS???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/05/2008 19:59 Comments || Top||

#9  There is no mention of the collider in the koran. So another advancement in human knowledge is being hailed as un-islamic. Hence the obligatory death threats.
Posted by: MarkZ || 09/05/2008 21:27 Comments || Top||


Black to green
Beneath the gargantuan grey boiler towers of Schwarze Pumpe power station which pierce the skies of northern Germany, a Lilliputian puzzle of metal boxes and shining canisters is about to mark a moment of industrial history.

This mini power plant is a pilot project for carbon capture and storage (CCS) - the first coal-fired plant in the world ready to capture and store its own CO2 emissions. Next week the pilot - an oxyfuel boiler - will be formally commissioned. A cloud of pure oxygen will be breathed into the boiler. The flame will be lit. Then a cloud of powdered lignite will be injected. The outcome will be heat, water vapour, impurities, nine tonnes of CO2 an hour, and a landmark in clean technology.

Because the CO2 will then be separated, squashed to one 500th of its original volume and squeezed into a cylinder ready to be transported to a gas field and forced 1,000m below the surface into porous rock where it should stay until long after mankind has stopped worrying about climate change. This is the technology once lavishly described by the former UK Chief Scientist Sir David King as "the only hope for mankind".

The plant operators, Vattenfall, have worked furiously for two years to get the pilot running. "We are very proud - we think this is the future for coal," says Vattenfall's Hubertus Altmann. They funded the 70m-euro project themselves because they wanted to lead a technology they believe solves the conundrum of providing energy security through plentiful coal supplies whilst avoiding the CO2 emissions officially blamed for climate change.

'Too expensive, too late'
Green-carpeted marquees are currently being furnished for the guests who will swell the applause at the grand inauguration.

But of course big questions hang over this technology overall, particularly over where the CO2 will be stored and who will pay the high costs of building and running the CCS plants.

Greenpeace is among the environmental groups expressing reservations. "Our concern is that this technology is used to justify the construction of more coal power plants," says Tobias Munchmeyer. "It's too expensive, it will come too late and it will divert money from the real solutions, renewable energies and energy efficiency."

The EU wants to see 10-12 full-scale power plants demonstrating CO2 capture within the next few years.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thirty years ago, the same people were proposing that all the world's uranium should be buried too deep to be recovered. Just throw it away.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/05/2008 0:32 Comments || Top||

#2  This is a game for fools. If you want to deal with CO2, then take this waste stream and make something with it, like plants do. Reprocess. Burying it in a cylinder 1000M into the earth is just plain stupid.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/05/2008 3:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Greenpeace is among the environmental groups expressing reservations. "Our concern is that this technology is used to justify the construction of more coal power plants," says Tobias Munchmeyer. "It's too expensive, it will come too late and it will divert money from the real solutions, renewable energies and energy efficiency."

Once you have paid the Danegeld, you will never be free of the Dane.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/05/2008 3:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Those people (Greenpeas and their ilk) while claiming to be "for the good of the evironment" are too stupid to realize that:

A) Humanity's contribution of less than 1/3 of 1% of the planet's annual emmision of CO2 is less than negligible

and

B) CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a nutrient for 3/4 of the life on this planet.

I really don't understand why people listen to this bull without thinking about it at all?
Posted by: DLR || 09/05/2008 10:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Take that C02 and inject it into fizzy drinks so we can all enjoy it. Yeah we'll belch and fart a good chunk of it back but no plan is perfect. REcycle C02 you fools, cut the price of beer in the process. Win win.

Yeah I know beer makes its own C02. Bummer. First the Muslims will come after beer and then the greens.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 11:07 Comments || Top||

#6  The best way to "Neutralise" CO2 is to plant trees, as an added bonus plant Nut trees, Hickory, Pecan, Walnut etc, and reap the side bonus. Yum.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Thought that too, why in the heck would they throw away a commodity? And how much energy is being put into making then transporting these cylinders then pumping gas underground?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 17:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually, it makes sense to pump the CO2 into a gas field : it raises the pressure in the field if done correctly, and makes the gas field more productive. Lots of oil and gas fields around the world are being pressure-forced in a similar manner to insure continued productivity : Saudi Arabia HAS TO pressure-force its major fields now to keep up its oil production; otherwise, at least one of the major Saudi fields would go off-line.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/05/2008 20:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Shieldwolf: and Germany shares a border with Saudi? Your comment is right and appropriate, if you can do both, great. This is a feel-good tool of western-world idiots to make their self-esteem artificially high. They should be exposed/explained for the morons they are. Planting vegetation is the best answer to CO2 concerns (and I have none) if they are valid
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 21:06 Comments || Top||

#10  The US gov tried building one. They gave up when costs rose to 5X that of a conventional plant. And it also takes a lot of energy to separate the oxygen before combustion. I shudder at the electricity cost of this plant. It will make solar seem downright affordable.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 21:27 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Crisis as Thai minister quits
Thailand's foreign minister has quit, local media reported yesterday, dealing another blow to Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej a day after he invoked emergency rule against protesters seeking to unseat him.Tej Bunnag, a retired diplomat appointed in July, resigned after completing his mission to repair relations with Cambodia after a temple row that forced out his predecessor, a television channel and news Web sites said.

Tej once served in King Bhumibol Adulyadej's principal private secretary's office, and his departure could be seen as the revered monarch expressing his reservations about Samak's administration.

News of the resignation came a day after Samak invoked emergency rule in Bangkok to quash intensifying street protests against his seven-month old administration.

"If it is true, it is another step toward the end of this falling government," Ramkhamhaeng University analyst said of Tej's reported resignation.

Samak, who has refused to bow to protesters occupying his official compound for nine days, declared emergency rule on Tuesday after clashes between his supporters and anti-government protesters killed one man and injured 45.

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Home Front Economy
Wind Power Coming to Northeast?
Amid a national debate over offshore oil drilling, the federal government is preparing to unleash development of another offshore energy source: wind.

The Interior Department, the agency that handles oil-and-gas leases in U.S. waters, is preparing to lease swaths of the outer continental shelf to companies that want to erect massive wind turbines. With the public-comment period for the proposal scheduled to end Monday, competition is heating up to develop wind projects on the shelf, the same underwater formation largely covered by an oil-drilling ban that has become a contentious issue in the presidential race.

QUESTION OF THE DAY



If you had to choose one, which method of offshore energy production would you support?The federal program signals the start of a broad push to develop offshore wind energy in the U.S. The country often is dubbed by renewable-energy experts as "the Saudi Arabia of wind" because of its vast, windy expanses, particularly in the Western plains. Now, rising interest in renewable energy is spurring exploration of the ocean, where the winds typically are heavier but the technological hurdles to tapping it are higher. That shift mirrors the oil industry's move to offshore wells decades ago.

The offshore-wind race is centered on the Northeast. In June, an electricity producer and a wind-energy developer in Delaware signed a contract for a project of some 67 turbines to be built about 11.5 miles off the state's coast. Over the next two months, Rhode Island and New Jersey are expected to choose wind-energy developers to work with as the states try to put together offshore projects.

And New York City officials are talking with wind-power developers about erecting turbines on a massive tract of the Atlantic Ocean about 25 miles from Manhattan. Offshore wind power seems likely to be the largest source of renewable energy for the city, says James Gallagher, senior vice president for energy policy for the New York Economic Development Corp. The idea is part of a broader plan by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg to curb the growth in the city's demand for fossil-fueled energy.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/05/2008 07:50 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will I still be able to wind surf safely?
Posted by: John Kerry || 09/05/2008 8:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Watch the sharks and the pylons.
Posted by: Perfesser || 09/05/2008 8:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Teddy will want to reverse the juice to make sure he has good sailing wind.
Posted by: ed || 09/05/2008 8:56 Comments || Top||

#4  People who advocate wind power for anything but pumping water don't know much about running power grids.
Posted by: Plastic Snoopy || 09/05/2008 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Wind power isn't bad to supplement other power sources or to take certain areas off the grid. It is not a solution to replace anything.

I would love to see a plan to have universities (for example) take themselves off the grid using wind turbines and/or solar. If enough do it we might be able to change the cost structure and make it more affordable for small towns (the way its done in Germany) or corpate campuses to do the same.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  "take themselves off the grid using wind turbines and/or solar"
Are you proposing some huge electricity storage system, or are they supposed to do without power on many cloudy days and nights?
Posted by: Darrell || 09/05/2008 11:25 Comments || Top||

#7  At night they suck off the grid, but our power grid is rarely taxed at night. The idea is to take them off during the peak hours during the work day.

As I said, a supplement to the grid, not a replacement for.

In California we had rolling blackouts a few years back. It would have been nice to have a few extra energy sources adding TO the grid as Clint Eastwoods golf course does.

Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  This is probably too simple an idea, Why not do both?, I see no reason why Oil rigs can't also be wind tower supports.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 09/05/2008 13:13 Comments || Top||

#9  My problem is the absolutest idea that it must be this and nothing else. Or that and nothing else. And whatever solution is chosen must be done in centralized concepts.

Try everything. Decentralize so that we don't overtax the power grid. If something doesn't work kill it and try something else.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 14:18 Comments || Top||

#10  I bet if they told them they were giant fans to keep them cool in the summer and warm in the winter they would be all for it.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/05/2008 17:32 Comments || Top||

#11  And the sound is designed to help them sleep...
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 19:22 Comments || Top||

#12  the wind could power the oil rigs...
Posted by: 3dc || 09/05/2008 20:22 Comments || Top||

#13  Are you proposing some huge electricity storage system

There's always lotsa wind (faculty generated) around campuses.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/05/2008 21:57 Comments || Top||

#14  I saw a storage idea the other day that was based on windmills and compressed air. That made a good deal of sense, maybe it could make storage affordable. And rjshwarz, in the end it will be an "all of the above" solution, bet the farm on it.
Posted by: Whavish Untervehr4912 || 09/05/2008 23:10 Comments || Top||

#15  compressed air on a national scale? Bzzzzzt
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2008 23:42 Comments || Top||


Sony recalls 440,000 Vaio laptops
Electronics firm Sony recalls 440,000 Vaio laptop computers worldwide because of wiring faults that may cause overheating.
I think laptops are generically subject to overheating. I've never had one that didn't, and the one I have now is on its last legs -- and its second hard drive.
Posted by: Fred || 09/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sony had problems with its converter bricks for their PS2 necessitating a recall [twice in fact]. The problem was id'd as a [Chinese] subcontractor part. The boys running the books are going to have to start calculating recall expenses if they keep doing business that way. When the recall costs eliminate the 'advantage' of off shore sourcing, stuff will return home closer to management control.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/05/2008 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  It's not just dollars (yen) but brand credibility. Sony has a lot to protect.

Perhaps they should release the Lord of the Rings on Blu Ray to churn up some money and additional interest in the platform (or get Lukas to release his Star Wars movies on Blu Ray). Killer Apps.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/05/2008 12:08 Comments || Top||



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