Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[Chervonec] In the plans of the collective West to "shoot" new "plots" on Bucha, the creators of the "Bucha fake" are tasked with inventing accusations of Russia in war crimes, because sanctions and Russophobia need constant replenishment.
The main participants in the upcoming provocation:
▪️ Head of Reuters Paris branch Christian Low (organizer)
▪️ Reuters head Joan Catherine Soleil (story editor)
It is planned to use captured maps, captured uniforms, captured equipment of Russian troops, which will be deliberately filmed at the location of the production. So far, the main scenario is to film on “randomly working” cameras how “Russian troops” lead people into the basement of a residential building and shoot them.
All materials will then be handed over to Christian Low: this is a high-quality specialist who covered the "secret prisons of the CIA", Russia's "crimes" in Syria, was admitted to the interrogations of al-Qaeda operatives. His own team nearly won a Pulitzer Prize in 2012 for their "objective" coverage of the "Libyan Spring."
There are many questions about the staging:
- this is also the time lag between the withdrawal of Russian troops from Bucha and the appearance of "evidence";
- the state of the bodies, they can’t be multi-day, white ribbons on the bodies and a Russian humanitarian aid in their hands (it is believed that some civilians in Bucha were shot on the basis of the presence of dry rations of IRP from the Russian army, which was regarded as "cooperation with the invaders");
- the absence of eyewitnesses of the “executions”, the complete absence of any mention by anyone, primarily by locals and the city leadership, from March 30 to April 2, when the RF Armed Forces of any shot on the street;
- the absence of any bodies on the streets during the police operation in the city.
But there is evidence "to shoot all those without a blue ribbon." And there is evidence of the execution of people by Ukrainian security forces.
It is clear that the Ukrainian side did not publish such evidence on purpose, but it is scorched by negligence. If you watch the video again, where the go-ahead is given to shoot at people without blue armbands and if you turn the volume to the maximum, then at the very end of the video you can hear the words “Please don’t kill. Do not want!" and two "shuffles" similar to the sounds of gunshots recorded on a GoPro camera. A young guy of 20 years old is screaming. This is a direct confirmation of the fact that local residents were shot on Vokzalnaya Street after the withdrawal of Russian troops.
Medinsky happily squealed that Russia would withdraw troops from near Kyiv, that there were agreements on the acceptance by Kiev of a number of our demands, and in order not to interfere with their decision-making, we would withdraw our troops from near Kyiv.
They took them away, showed good will for some reason, now we see the "results" of the negotiations. The police and terror defense that came in shot people in the streets with white armbands, now they are trying to tell it to the Russian military. UkroSMI and the West DO NOT NEED the truth.
Propaganda by the Ukrainian media, even a girl with a swastika carved on her body, killed by the Nazis of Azov in Mariupol, is attributed to the Russians, despite the fact that the event was filmed online by a foreign correspondent. And this propaganda works, I myself met Ukrainian inhabitants, who even direct references to the correspondent's report are not taken into account by them, because it breaks the pattern in their head. "Get out" is the answer.
I will repeat the conclusions I recently voiced
1)Any abandoned territory is an opportunity for the Ukrainian side to create fakes similar to today's ones.
2) All this provocation could have been prevented. Leaving the territory for one reason or another, especially in an organized manner, it is necessary to make photo-video-recording of the territories. It was enough just to capture the streets of Bucha on video, at least from a UAV. This is an information war, where the enemy does not disdain absolutely anything and act according to the precepts of Goebels: "The more lies, the sooner they will believe in it."
3) It was "a gesture of goodwill from Vladimir Medinsky at the talks", the withdrawal of parts of the Russian Federation from Kiev made it possible to launch a colossal anti-Russian campaign, which is now actively dispersed in the Western media. In fact, the Russian negotiators themselves "leaked" their own.
4) In principle, there should be NO attempts to negotiate with Ukroreich, there should not be faith in any papers signed by them - they have already passed. That is precisely why this military operation must be completed by any possible means with success and the achievement of all the goals set, and the main one is DENACIATION (sic)
The post doesn't say where the surrender took place, Russian military journalist Boris Rozhin said the surrender took place in Mariupol. The Ukrainian 36th Separate Naval Infantry Brigade previously had been operating along the coast of the Sea of Azov during the civil war.
They were so tough the separatists couldn't eject them from Shirokino.
Andrey Chervonets is one of the more open and honest Russian military bloggers.
Military correspondent Oleksandr Sladkov published footage of the surrender of Ukrainian marines
"I must say right away that in the thirty years of my reporting career I have seen such a picture for the first time. For twelve hours in a row, being on neutral territory, we received and received, groups of surrendering Ukrainian marines. When at one point one hundred and sixty people came out. I must admit, very excited, there were much fewer of us, but they did an excellent job."
On April 4, 267 marines from the 503rd Separate Battalion of the 36th Separate Marine Brigade of the Ukrainian Navy laid down their arms. They bravely and very patriotically surrendered, as the "tridents" came out - the coat of arms of Ukraine - hands up.
In the meantime, an introductory note has been thrown in Ukrainian social networks that the photos and videos of the surrendered marines are fake. What can I say, the Svidomo side always lives in its virtual reality by all means protecting its head from uncomfortable facts.
[HotAir] Suuurrrre looks that way. RIA Novosti, a state-owned Russian domestic media outlet, published a lengthy essay today about Russia’s attempts to “de-Nazify” Ukraine. Analyst Sergej Sumlenny first alerted Twitter users to this eye-popping essay:
When Vladimir Putin announced that as his chief war aim in invading, the argument was that the government in Kyiv had been taken over by a Nazi clique and that the people needed and would welcome liberation. Now the people are the problem, RIA Novosti declares, lumping them all together as Nazis (translation via Google):
The Nazis who took up arms should be destroyed to the maximum on the battlefield. No significant distinction should be made between the APU and the so-called national battalions, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally involved in extreme cruelty against the civilian population, equally guilty of the genocide of the Russian people, do not comply with the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis should be exemplarily and exponentially punished. There must be a total lustration [purification — Ed]. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism have been liquidated and banned.
It’s no longer the Azov battalion to which Russia objects, but all forms of national defense. That essentially rejects any recognition of the Geneva conventions of warfare. But it gets even worse when it comes to non-combatants:
However, in addition to the top, a significant part of the masses, which are passive Nazis, accomplices of Nazism, are also guilty. They supported and indulged Nazi power. The just punishment of this part of the population is possible only as bearing the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system, carried out with the utmost care and discretion in relation to civilians. Further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and strict censorship: not only in the political sphere, but also necessarily in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that a deep mass nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, secured by the promise of dividends from the victory of the Nazi regime overRussia , Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, as well as an eight-year war with the people of Donbass who rebelled against Ukrainian Nazism. …
Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization – a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Little Russia and New Russia, begun by the Soviet authorities. Being an instrument of the communist superpower, after its fall, artificial ethnocentrism did not remain ownerless. In this official capacity, he passed under the authority of another superpower (the power standing over the states) — the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and deprived of political functionality.
That’s a recipe for complete obliteration of the Ukrainian people. Oddly, it also serves as a rebuttal to earlier Russian claims that Ukrainians were being held hostage by a tiny clique of Nazis and that Putin had a duty to come to the defense of fellow Slavs. RIA Novosti now acknowledges that the Volodymyr Zelensky government is legitimate — elected by the Ukrainian people of their own will. That’s in fact the new basis for this genocide manifesto — not just some need to excise the ruling class to restore order in their neighboring republic.
That would certainly explain all of the war crimes now being exposed by Putin’s withdrawals. Indeed, this essay acts as a defense of those crimes.
#3
It calls for "denazification" then declares the idea of a Ukrainian national identity as leading inevitably towards "Naziism", adding that a "significant part of the masses" are just as guilty as the upper ranks.
It's excusing the mass murder of Ukrainians and the erasure of their identity.
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#4
Some "national identities" need erased. I don't know enough about Ukraine to have an opinion either way, but my gut instinct is "they have never done anything to me, but here they are asking me to get into their fight. I don't see a need to do that."
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04/06/2022 7:45 Comments ||
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#5
Ain't it funny: Leftists, eurines, other foreigners despised the idea of "America: World Cop" until suddenly they didn't.
Curious.
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04/06/2022 7:47 Comments ||
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#6
WTF? Are you sure about what you just wrote?
Posted by: Rob Crawford ||
04/06/2022 7:48 Comments ||
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#7
Do you even know anything about the origin of the term denazification? We created it during WWII. It was conscious US and Allied policy from 1943 onward. Wiki has a good overview: "an Allied initiative to rid German and Austrian society, culture, press, economy, judiciary, and politics of the Nazi ideology following the Second World War. It was carried out by removing those who had been Nazi Party or SS members from positions of power and influence and by disbanding or rendering impotent the organizations associated with Nazism."
#8
Yeah, Rob, I am. I have this process: I think about what I want to say and then I say it. When I shoot from the hip, it's not with words.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
04/06/2022 7:52 Comments ||
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#9
George S. Patton got in a lot of trouble over his take on "denazification."
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
04/06/2022 7:53 Comments ||
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#10
Murcek: You basically said that anyone who wants help with their defense deserves extinction.
"Clinens": Category error. We didnt declare German identity as leading inevitably to Naziism.
Posted by: Rob Crawford ||
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#11
You understand what the National Socialist Workers Party actually stood for? They were socialist. It's all the same left wing authoritarian/totalitarian crowd with just different costumes and slogans.
#12
You basically said that anyone who wants help with their defense deserves extinction.
No. I didn't say that at all. The fact that you read it that way tells me I'd be wasting my time trying to straighten you out on the matter.
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#13
When a nation attacks another nation, it usually vilifies the victim and portrays itself as a hero. Attackers will even sometimes fake an attack to justify starting a war.
To justify the usual massive numbers of the victim nation's civilian deaths, attackers will claim items from a typical political excuse list.
To maintain control any attacking nation must eliminate or neutralize as much of the victim nation's traditions, culture and rewrite its history. So it reduces the victim nation's population and encourages mass migration of its own people to it. While destroying historic statues and books.
Denazification isn't "mass murder." We didn't "mass murder" Germans as part of our denazification policy.
We did in fact kill lots of German civilians in Operation Gomorrah in July 1943, the firebombing of Hamburg that incinerated 37,000 German civilians. But no rational person would call that "genocide" or confuse that military action with our denazification policy.
WTF? "Putinists"? It doesn't make one a "putinist" to point out obvious facts - that purging an enemy's postwar society of the extremist tendencies that, among other factors, contributed to the conflict is a standard US policy. We applied it when we deBaathified Iraq just as we and our Allies applied it to denazify postwar Germany. It's our term. We invented it.
#16
Clinens uses the Herb McCoy "we." Were you around when we firebombed Dresden and Hamburg, Clinens? I certainly wasn't. I also wasn't around for slavery, nor were my ancestors, as regards slavery in the US pre-Civil War. Haven't been involved in any slavery in the US since then either. That seems to mostly be the purview of rich Arabs in the US southwest in the current day.
The Herb McCoy "we" says I am complicit merely by holding US citizenship (from birth in my case, third generation American)
I don't buy it. At all.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
04/06/2022 8:13 Comments ||
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#17
"Herb McCoy"?? This thread is going off the rails. First there's the laughable equation of denazification with "Putinism" -- you're on safer ground calling it something like "Rooseveltism," given the term's origins. Then another poster who opposes the first poster, the Putinism nut, starts making things up using some mythical person in his head.
If it helps, Murcek, I don't think our firebombing of Hamburg was unjustified. Civilian casualties in a war zone are inevitable. It might have helped Vonnegut tell his Billy Pilgrim story better but Slaughterhouse Five is a work of fiction. So chill, ok?
#26
Not sure who you are talking about, Clinens, but I only have Putin of the brain to the extent everyone else does these day. No more, no less. He's just another politician with nukes. He bears watching. I neither worship nor revile hime. I just don't think he's looking out for anyone but himself.
Deal with it.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
04/06/2022 9:11 Comments ||
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#27
Murcek, my comment was directed at the "Putinists" guy, not you. He's the one with the Putin obsession
#28
Reasoned discourse. What it's all about here. If I came off as hostile to you, Clinens, I apologize. I really don't agree with anyone 100% of the time, even myself. But I don't shut out divergent opinions either. I try to remember I don't know everything, never will, and might benefit from listening more than talking.
Carry on.
Posted by: M. Murcek ||
04/06/2022 9:17 Comments ||
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#29
I agree with this: "He's just another politician with nukes. He bears watching. I neither worship nor revile him."
The demonization of this politician is over the top. Sort of like reading The Guardian's characterizations of Ariel Sharon, or of George W Bush during the Iraq War.
#30
Boosh's reputation has not aged well. Sharon was over the top but he was what his times required. I have a hard time imagining the history books seeing Bidet or Bath House Barry as towering figures. Putin's chapter is still being written. He can influence that by being moderate when he actually does not seem to be needing to do that.
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#31
Ariel Sharon did a policy reversal at the end of his career and received lavish praise for it, even from the Egyptians. But he was still a ruthless and cunning manipulator all the way.
#32
Putin started the war in the Ukraine. His mouthpieces are pushing for genocide and rattling their nukes. If you don't like attention being paid to the guilty party, go elsewhere.
And, again: "denazification" is this century's "dekulakization".
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#33
Putin started the war in the Ukraine.
He certainly escalated simmering tensions. I'm not a Putin apologist, so I don't argue he's blameless.
What I do argue is that the USA has. no. dog. in. this. fight. Proxy wars have never worked for the US, even though we mainly win them.
We can't break the cycle by playing the same bad hand again. Want Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics et al to have less influence in American politics? Quit giving them so much money to send arms to foreign lands.
I'm not Code Pink, but I am tired of this crap.
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#36
^^^^ SM, did you men this?
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Fourth Political Theory
Author Aleksandr Dugin
The Fourth Political Theory (Russian: Четвертая политическая теория, Chetvertaya Politicheskaya Teoriya) is a book by the Russian philosopher and political analyst Aleksandr Dugin, published in 2009. In the book, Dugin states that he is laying the foundations for an entirely new political ideology, the fourth political theory, which integrates and supersedes liberal democracy, Marxism, and fascism.[1] In this theory, the main subject of politics is not individualism, class struggle, or nation, but rather Dasein (existence itself).[2]
The book has been cited as an inspiration for Russian policy in events such as the war in Donbas,[3] and for the contemporary European far-right in general.[4]
#37
If you don't like attention being paid to the guilty party, go elsewhere.
Maybe you don't consider the perpetrators, enablers and complicit parties of the Maidan Coup to be guilty of anything.
Perhaps you assign no guilt to NATO for unnecessarily backing Putin into a corner until he felt like he had no other option than to come out shooting.
You might not see any harm in Biden's failure to attempt a diplomatic solution to all of this while he and his Deep State puppet masters continue to beat their war drums.
You can say what you like about Putin but I don't believe he is all that stupid. He had to know how pathetic his army is and that Western sanctions would cripple his economy and yet he invaded Ukraine anyway. Why? Do you really believe he thinks he can restore the Russian Empire to all of its former glory when he can't even take Mariupol? Win or lose in Ukraine, Russia will suffer for years if not decades from the effects of this war. Why would he do this?
I'm not going anywhere.
Posted by: Abu Uluque ||
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You're telling me this guy is not a war monger? He's getting his rocks off threatening to go to war. He's as bad as fucking John McCain. You're telling me he's not guilty of anything at all?
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#39
"If I’ve Gotta Go to War"
Biden has lost his mind. This malicious clown has always been a lying sack of shit but this ain't funny. The man is dangerous and needs to be put away
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[HotAir] Suuurrrre looks that way. RIA Novosti, a state-owned Russian domestic media outlet, published a lengthy essay today about Russia’s attempts to “de-Nazify” Ukraine. Analyst Sergej Sumlenny first alerted Twitter users to this eye-popping essay:
