A videotaped diatribe by the Virginia Tech gunman shocked students and mesmerised television viewers, but police said on Thursday it yielded little value for the investigation of the campus massacre. "Muldoon! What'd you get outta that?"
"Ummm... Only that he wuz a dipshit, chief!"
"How about you, Toody?"
"That's all I got out of it, chief. Sorry."
"Damn. Me, too. Maybe that's all that was in it."
Students at the university expressed disgust and disbelief at self-made photos and a disturbing video the killer mailed to NBC News as he paused on Monday in the midst of the deadliest shooting rampage in modern United States history. Police handling the investigation expressed disappointment at the airing of the images and rants by Cho Seung-Hui, who killed 32 people and then himself. "I'm sorry that you all were exposed to these images," Virginia State Police Superintendent Steve Flaherty told a news conference.
Some family members of the victims were so outraged at NBC's decision that they cancelled interviews with network, which turned the package over to law-enforcement authorities. "While there was some marginal value to the package, the fact of the matter is we already had most all of this information and most all of this evidence," Flaherty said. "The package simply confirmed what we already knew in many, many cases."
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Great "Car 54" reference there, Fred!
US gunman's video yields little for police
Of course, that didn't stop the major networks from splashing it.
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I'm probably going to get seriously burned on here for stating how I feel about the airing of this stuff by NBC.
For me... and I realize that I am only remotely connected to this event (one of the victims is from here where I live in VA) but I am glad that they showed this stuff on the news.
It helps me to make sense out of this tragedy... an understanding of what actually happened that I do not think I would have had, had this stuff not been aired.
I know I am not the victim's families... and I know that if I were I would probably be viewing this in a different light. Still even then I think that this would give me something concrete to hang my emotional hate upon instead of vague responses from police and other law enforcement groups.
For me... the truth normally brings a sense of freedom along with it. It's only when things are covered up... hidden... disinformation... that I feel helpless and confused.
Any man can make a choice... but only with pertinent facts can good choices be made.
This is just my personal opinion... take it for what it's worth.
I heard this on the radio coming in this morning. I thought it was the Korean guy...
LOS ANGELES - The festering bad blood between movie-star exes Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger erupted Thursday when an angry phone message from Baldwin to his daughter was made public. Smart move leaving the voicemail, Al. You know the ex-wife who hates your guts would never use that against you...
On the recording, Baldwin can be heard berating his 11-year-old, Ireland, "You are a rude, thoughtless little pig. You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being," he says, apparently upset that she did not answer her phone for a planned call. Do you know who I am!
"I don't give a damn that you're 12 years old, or 11 years old, or that you're a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do as far as I'm concerned. You have humiliated me for the last time with this phone." Ummmmmmmmm...not quite.
He goes on to say that he plans to fly from New York to Los Angeles "for the day just to straighten you out on this issue." Yeah, don't take that shit from an 11 year old girl, Al. Better get down there and smack her around. We'll see if she shows you the proper respect after a good beating. Do you know who I am!!!
Baldwin's spokesman said in a statement Thursday that, "in the best interest of the child," the 49-year-old actor "will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing ... keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. Yeah. Blame her for him being an asshole. Awwww, look what she made me do!
"The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order," the statement continued. "Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years." Awwwwww. My heart bleeds.
"The voice mail speaks for itself," Basinger's spokeswoman said. Game. Point. Match...
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I don't get it: This is pretty much every family dinner I ever had when I was a teenager. Where were all these sympathy-dripping talking heads while that was going on, eh?
[Nic changed to avoid the Long Arm of Google.]
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Isn't he the guy who's too good to live in America with Bush as President? Bush, you see, doesn't know how to get along with the world, whereas Alec is a master of diplomacy.
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And this is one of the left's front-line, go-to spokesmen. Nice...
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Alec "big-mouth" Baldwin
Gawd but i do luvs revenge!!
wasn't this the same narcissistic asshat that swore he'd leave America if Bush won?
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[Alec Baldwin] has always been an angry, abusive person
And that's why I hope Child and Family Services is standing by to ensure that no physical harm comes to his daughter when he shows up to "straighten her out".
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elarson - a judge, based on that recording - issued a temporary stop to his visitation, pending a hearing
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Maybe if he and the wife had taken a little longer to marry or longer to have kids they would have figured out that they weren't right for one another before bringing children into the world and putting them through this shit.
Baldwins an asshole. Kim may be one too (and apparently is if she distributed this). Who knows. But I feel sorry for the daughter who's had this broadcast for the world to see.
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Since it no doubt was a call to the daughters own personal phone #, what are the odds the daughter unloaded the recording to stick it to dear old annoying dad?
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do you think THAT was an isolated voicemail? I don't wonder why she wasn't (apparently) enthusiastic to talk to her "I love ya, how're ya doing, ya rude, thoughtless little pig" Dad. What kid wouldn't love to be drawn into the brutal battle-du-parents? Self-Esteem 101 couldn't be better!
As an aside, I was involved in a totally brutal divorce with fully lawyer armed combat, 3 kids (daughter 9, son, 7, son 6 at the time), full psychologist/care worker/mediator battle - $35K spent/side.... and I NEVER would've blamed my kids for the problems, EVER. They were mine and my ex's. Made me sick to hear Alec's shit, totally bringing up memories of court hearings and why I, as Dad, got custody...
Daughter's 22 now... they still favor me. Wonder why?...Bye Alec....
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great to hear that you stuck it out Frank, battling on until you won..
;-)
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The Movie Star Asshat, Alex fucking Baldwin:
Narcissistic parents are the fucking worst..
reversing roles they demand that kids nurture them the parent; they effectually steal their own kid's childhood and regularly beat them down psychologically and sometimes physically.
A majority of personnel managers consider a job at McDonalds more valuable than a political science course at university.
A new report - commissioned by McDonalds - has shown that 59 percent of personnel managers consider the experience gained from a job with the global fast food chain more beneficial than a term spent studying political science.
Pollster Sifo asked a total of 200 personnel managers and over 1,000 people between the ages of 16 and 25 about the importance of gaining a foothold in the labour market.
Personnel managers (59 percent) and young people (47 percent) both said they valued a job at McDonalds more highly than a term spent studying political science at a third level institution.
#2
"Do you want fries with that? But what do we really mean by 'want?' And what role have corporate America and the advertising industry in generating this so-called 'want'?
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our Toronto Canuckistani friend is just having withdrawals from saying: "ya want fries with that?"
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Woozle, I think you misunderstand --
We certainly acknowledge that there are smart philosophers and philosophy majors out there.
But unless you can get a teaching job (and good luck with that) there's a fair chance you'll end up at a job that doesn't, shall we say, reflect your intelligence. Driving a cab comes to mind (and aren't all cab drivers philosophers at heart?).
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You're killing me Woozle. So ya scored higher than business or poli sci majors. Not exactly the stomping grounds for the Mensa crowd. Next you are gonna tell me you are smarter than journalism majors.
You seem defensive of your ego. After all, it's tough to go through university and get stuck in a menial job that even illegal aliens won't do. But no need to justify your existence. You flip, therefore you are. A philosophy degree and your employee discount WILL get you a Happy Meal.
I believe a large part of governmental problems do lie in the civil service not getting enough highly intelligent people. They don't get the sciences and engineering graduates, the ones who think logically and quantitatively. Opportunities for them are much better elsewhere. Instead they scrape the bottom of the barrel with nearly unemployable poly sci and philosophy majors.
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I believe a large part of governmental problems do lie in the civil service not getting enough highly intelligent people. They don't get the sciences and engineering graduates, the ones who think logically and quantitatively. Opportunities for them are much better elsewhere
DOH!?
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Not nearly enough. Golden BBs get overwhelmed in a Peter Principle organization.
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Always the killer question:
"What kinds of jobs have you held in the last [insert time interval], and describe your responsibilities there."
A degree in Advanced Navel Gazing won't cut it.
Now, describing what a platoon leader in a FSC (CSS to you older types) maintenece company does can get you some interesting responses. And usualy a job offer.
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New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine still needs a ventilator to help him breathe, nearly a week since he was severely injured in a car crash on the Garden State Parkway on April 12. He was visited at Cooper University Hospital by at least two of his children Thursday morning.
Dr. Steven Ross, head of trauma and emergency surgical services, says the pain from Corzine's multiple fractures of ribs and the fracture in his sternum causes excruciating pain and prevents him from breathing as effectively as he should, reports Michelle Durham of CBS Radio station KYW-AM. "None of those things per se are bad enough to keep him from coming off the ventilator, but the pain from them ... is what is really holding him back at this point," said Ross Wednesday. "A lot of pain and that's what keeps him from breathing effectively."
So doctors inserted two catheters in the chest wall that fan out over his injured ribs, delivering healthy doses of local anesthetic, reports Durham. They hope that will help relieve enough pain to reduce the governor's need for morphine.
As of Wednesday, doctors said, he was getting eight breaths a minute from the machine and taking in an additional six per minute on his own. An average healthy person take about 16 breaths a minute. The ventilator will remain in place until he does not need it at all, doctors said. Ross would not predict how long it might be before Corzine could breathe completely on his own, but said he hoped it would be a matter of days, not weeks.
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So doctors inserted two catheters in the chest wall that fan out over his injured ribs, delivering healthy doses of local anesthetic, reports Durham. They hope that will help relieve enough pain to reduce the governor's need for morphine.
wow Crash Corzine is f*cked up. I've never heard of thatr anesthetic used in that way. That's alot of pain..
#5
that's like being a "better mayor than David Dinkins", isn't it?
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Hey, his vehicle was traveling over 90 mph. He was not wearing a seat belt. In most States it is the law to wear a seat belt. One of those guys who says: Do as I say. However, it doesn't apply to me.
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Here's and oldie but a goodie for you, governor...
"Buckle up for safety, buckle up
Buckle up for safety, everybody buckle up!
Show the world you care, by the belt you wear,
Buckle up for safety, everybody buckle up!"
#9
Why doesn't he take the wad of hundreds out of his ass, and anal ventilate ?
# 3, the last NJ governor is now acting NJ governor.
You might mean his gayness, Mc Greevy. No matter, it's one dumb democrat after the other, and poor New Jersey plunges into the tar pit of debt.
It's a classic example of corruption before favoritism.
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Medical note: local delivery of anesthetics to the injured region with a catheter is a new way of delivering pain relief. It means less need for opiates which might depress his respiration. Smart idea, and I've seen it done here.
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A prominent Muslim cleric in Indian-held Kashmir has gone on a hunger strike to force authorities to close down the only liquor shop in the south of the state, officials said on Thursday. Qazi Ahmed Yasir, the head cleric in Anantnag district, has vowed not to eat until authorities shut the recently opened shop in neighbouring Khanabal area. He has been joined by some half-a-dozen aides, a police officer said. Muslims closed down liquor shops, beauty parlours and cinemas in Kashmir in 1990. Only one liquor shop is operational in Srinagar, but in a high security zone.
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KUALA LUMPUR: Two Malaysian Hindu men on Thursday said they were battling Islamic authorities after being forcibly separated from their Muslim wives in cases highlighting growing religious tensions here.
Suresh Veerapan issued a plea for help after his wife Revathi Masoosai and their baby were forcibly removed from their home and she was put in Islamic rehabilitation camp. He said Revathi, an ethnic Indian and practising Hindu born to Muslim parents, was sent to the camp for 100 days in January by Islamic authorities in western Malacca state.
Her detention was extended on Wednesday by a sharia court by 80 days, Suresh said, adding Islamic authorities in March had also taken the 16-month old baby from him and given the child to his Muslim in-laws.
We are treated like animals, not humans, the way they have separated me from my wife and baby, said a weeping Suresh, adding that officials were now keeping him from visiting Revathi. When I asked them why the extension, they told me she did not cooperate with the authorities there, Suresh said. Revathis detention is the latest in a string of religious conflicts involving Muslims and non-Muslims which have sparked outrage in multi-ethnic Malaysia.
In a separate case, another Malaysian Hindu man on Thursday vowed to fight the authorities for custody of five of his children who were forcibly separated from him, along with his Muslim wife.
P Marimuthu said his wife Raimah Bibi Noordin and their five young Hindu children were taken from their home two weeks ago by religious officials, who said she was a Muslim.
Raimah and the children are being held in a ethnic Malay Muslim village in western Selangor slate, and Marimuthus lawyers on Thursday filed an application with a high court in the west of Kuala Lumpur to free them.
I just want to at least get my children back, I do not want them to be Muslims as they were brought up as Hindus, Marimuthu said, adding he had one son living with him who escaped the raid. Marimuthu said that Raimah, an ethnic Indian, was adopted by an Indian Muslim family and was a practising Hindu.
Rights groups have condemned the actions of the authorities in Raimahs case, saying they breached the countrys constitution, which guarantees freedom of religious practice.
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Police are looking for a man who may have been involved in the death of a U.S. Peace Corps volunteer in a mountainous tourist area in the northern Philippines, officials said Thursday. Regional police chief Raul Gonzales said that a witness claimed he saw a man in the area of the shallow grave in Banaue township where Julia Campbell's body was found on Wednesday, 10 days after she went missing. Police suspect foul play.
Senior Superintendent Pedro Ganir, police chief of Ifugao province, which includes Banaue, said the man was the husband of a woman who sold a Coca-Cola to Campbell before she headed off on a hike in the area's famed mountainside rice terraces, a World Heritage site. Ganir said investigators were looking into "robbery with homicide or rape with homicide," although an autopsy on Campbell's body has not yet been carried out. He said officers also recovered her other belongings scattered near the body, including coins and clothes. Jun Addug, a Banaue councilor, said the witness was a 13-year-old boy.
The man police are trying to find allegedly rushed down to a dry creek when he realized the boy had spotted him, municipal council member Jun Addug said after speaking with the teenager.
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Huh. I always thought of that as "the art of unemployment". In my biz, we're expected to learn stuff, as in this paraphrased conversation:
Boss: Here's a long C program. Make it do more stuff.
Me: I don't know C.
Boss: Learn.
Me: Hokay.
And this was without benefit of classes. There was one guy in the department who knew C, and I asked him about the tricky bits. Everything else I looked up in books (Google being kind of green at that point).
Once a technician marveled at how we were expected to show up at a location and teach ourselves to use a complicated, expensive piece of equipment -- and did. I could have kissed him. All my colleagues thought this was SOP (and it was, but it was nice to hear someone acknowledge how difficult it was).
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But to refrain from learning something requires years of practice and refinement.
I knew that already because I follow Wally's antics in the 'Dilbert' strip.
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"The inability to grasp selective things can be very helpful in keeping your desk clear of unwanted clutter," says the executive in HR, or what he calls "the dumping ground" of all unwanted office tasks.
The correlation from my military experience was that work gravitated to competency. If you were able to get the job done, you kept getting the jobs. If you were less than competent, your workload diminished. The art to work was to be good enough, but leave a bit of doubt in the bosses mind to avoid getting buried by assignments and to train and empower your subordinates as quickly as possible.
Doris Moore was shocked when her new couch was delivered to her home with a label that used a racial slur to describe the dark brown shade of the upholstery. The situation was even more alarming for Moore because it was her 7-year-old daughter who pointed out "n- brown" on the tag. "My daughter saw the label and she knew the color brown, but didn't know what the other word meant. She asked, 'Mommy, what color is that?' I was stunned. I didn't know what to say. I never thought that's how she'd learn of that word," Moore said.
The mother complained to the furniture store, which blamed the supplier, who pointed to a computer problem as the source of the derogatory label. Kingsoft Corp., a Chinese software company, acknowledged its translation program was at fault and said it was a regrettable error. "I know this is a very bad word," Huang Luoyi, a product manager for the Beijing-based company's translation software, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.
He explained that when the Chinese characters for "dark brown" are typed into an older version of its Chinese-English translation software, the offensive N-word description comes up. "We got the definition from a Chinese-English dictionary. We've been using the dictionary for 10 years. Maybe the dictionary was updated, but we probably didn't follow suit," he said.
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How does someone intelligent know when a slur is obviously of a racial intent. Translate either the English word 'white', 'pink', or 'light brown' into Chinese...is the resulting word a slur to them or us...NO!! Case closed!
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"It's amazing. I've been here since 1972 and I never knew the meaning of this word," said Vanaik, a native of India.
So this is a person who doesn't pay attention to the news? Takes in no popular entertainment? Was completely confused when newsies referred to the "n-word"?
In other news, maps of Africa found to be racist, and Spanish textbooks found to be using an out-dated word for "black". Mexican brewers have announced they will only sell "African-American Modelo" from now on.
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Chinglish.
I consider this site the best source on the subject
http://www.silverladder.com/literature/chinglish/chinglish.htm
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I am SO SICK of this crap. Nigger. Nigger, nigger, nigger. NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER. nigger nigger fo figger, banana nanna fo figger, fee fi fo figger, nigger. Nigger please! There! I used this awful word 12 times! Are there twelve dead people out there because I did so? NO? Have the laws changed to reinstate slavery? NO? Then maybe it's time to get off the reverse racism horse and get over it. It's a word, and a word that black people say all the time. Either get over it and just treat it like any other word, or get serious about banning it and have EVERYBODY stop using it. NO PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BASED ON RACE, which is what this whole brouhaha is about. I'm emancipated from this white guilt horsecrap and I don't want to hear about it anymore. See the link: http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/gift.html
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
A videotaped diatribe by the Virginia Tech gunman shocked students and mesmerised television viewers, but police said on Thursday it yielded little value for the investigation of the campus massacre.
New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine still needs a ventilator to help him breathe, nearly a week since he was severely injured in a car crash on the Garden State Parkway on April 12. He was visited at Cooper University Hospital by at least two of his children Thursday morning. 
KUALA LUMPUR: Two Malaysian Hindu men on Thursday said they were battling Islamic authorities after being forcibly separated from their Muslim wives in cases highlighting growing religious tensions here.
Police are looking for a man who may have been involved in the death of a U.S. Peace Corps volunteer in a mountainous tourist area in the northern Philippines, officials said Thursday. Regional police chief Raul Gonzales said that a witness claimed he saw a man in the area of the shallow grave in Banaue township where Julia Campbell's body was found on Wednesday, 10 days after she went missing. Police suspect foul play. 
