[P.WASHINGTONTIMES] Sen. Lindsey Graham ... the endangered South Carolina RINO... said Thursday that he is "glad" that the National Security Agency is collecting millions of telephone records -- including his own -- from one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies in an attempt to combat terrorism.
Mr. Graham said that he is a Verizon customer and has no problem with the company turning over records to the government if it helps it do its job. The South Carolina Republican said that people who have done nothing wrong have nothing to worry about because the NSA is mining the phone records for people with suspected ties to terrorism.
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Lindsey, say you did not say this, do you realize you have crossed over to
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Ala the orginal "RED DAWN", during the Cold War it was fear of the Soviets + their Proxies gathering public records to Amer private gun owners.
Now in the GWOT comeths Radical Islam's Jihadis [domestic?] whom desire to find out whom is an Crusader-Zionist Infidel versus whom is a Muslim.
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Back in the pre-Rantburg days, one of my favourite topics, which drove the Libertarians at Samizdata nuts, was you can either have more privacy or you can have more security and protection from crime, but you can't have both. So take your pick.
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He is clueless on this one. A favorite trick of the Taliban is to maintain a collection of cellies for field use, or go to someone's house and borrow one. Dedicated analysts along with voice recognition software is an effective counter-measure. The Taliban assume someone is listening in. Now we must assume that as well.
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Among the records they are collecting are credit card purchases, so unless you buy your guns, ammo and parts with cash they already have a national gun registry of sorts.
Also, Google tells them every time you do a gun related search. They know I am posting this. They know when you go to ar15.com. etc.
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If I have done nothing wrong I have nothing to worry about? OK. But what is wrong and who decides? Is it wrong to go to a Tea Party rally? Is it wrong to wonder out loud if there is anybody in the Senate who is dumber than Lindsey Graham?
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...given how few understand the words of the Constitution, I'd say that we have a crap load in the Senate just as - if not more dumb. Is there a word for a gaggle of dumb?
This has been being built for several years, the Met office in the UK used to have the largest, but now there in the US and the largest is being used to simulate the nuclear arsenal.
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An agency that has the ability to scrutinize the flow of information in the country also has the ability to control the country. If some rogue administration should happen to get power, it can decide who and what organizations oppose the national agenda, control future elections by suppressing donors and activity, determine who gets money and who doesn't, determine who gets what medical treatment, determine what companies should be targeted (via the IRS, OSHA, EPA, NLRB, etc.), and determine who gets what agency attack dogs sicked on them for being opposed to their national agenda. But wait minute, that is paranoid. It is just fiction--It's not possible in a free society. That wouldn't happen in realty. We have many, many elected guardians of freedom who wouldn't let that happen. We have built-in Constitutional safeguards that wouldn't permit that to happen.
An agency that has the ability to scrutinize the flow of information in the country also has the ability to control the country.
How?
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06/07/2013 16:58 Comments ||
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Like Phil_b said yesterday, few seem to really understand collecting call data is not the same as listening in.
That said, I am quite pleased to have the current administration roasted on the spit of media stupidity. It ties in so well with the IRS scandal, which - I believe - is the first of its kind - the gubbamint openly using its power to intimidate.
Except that doesn't sound so unique when I type it.
In fact, my late Father-in-Law was an Illinois State Rep (R)when the state went blue in 1980 or so. Before the Dems redistricted him out of a job, the IRS audited him - twice in a row. He told them two in a row was illegal, and he was right! Targeting is not new!
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I'm sure he is, because I'm starting to wonder if with all this sharing data stuff going about if the 2012 democrat campaign strategists were give access to this gathered information.
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(left off the ? - oops) :-(
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Clearly it is nearly impossible for any one person to listen into millions of daily phone calls. However it s possible to convert phone calls to text. And then mine the text for key words and phases. And then go back and listen to the entire phone conversation.
It s also possible to change the keyword search from jihad to tea party. Which is my beef with administration. Obama and his gang have focused more on conservatives than Islamic fascists.
1- We have an election coming up next year in which Republicans either lose or keep control of the House. The stakes are high.
2- We know that Champ has an Enemies List ("we're taking names") that Richard Nixon would consider over the top.
3- We know that Champ is willing to use federal agencies to punish his enemies (EPA, ATF, IRS).
4- We know now that the NSA has unfettered access to every bit of data an individual creates (maybe not exactly true, but you have to assume so).
5- Champ has just appointed one of his most loyal assassins, Susan Rice, to head the NSA.
6- Anything Rice does as head of the NSA will be cloaked in national security. "'Operation Take Back the House' really refers to a house in Syria, and that's all we can tell you."
Nah, I don't see any potential for abuse. And the NSA can quote me on that.
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Matt - uhhh...I think you are confusing the National Security AGENCY with National Security ADVISOR.
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[CNSNEWS] Calling the tax-exempt status of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) a "charade," Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) said it should not qualify for 501(c)(4) status with the Internal Revenue Service, because it is not a social welfare group but political in nature.
"It's everybody's right to participate in politics, and well you should," Blumenauer said on Tuesday at the House Boodle Central hearing into allegations that the IRS targeted conservative organizations, including NOM. "But I think having organizations parading as being social welfare organizations and then being involved in political combat harkens back to why the (IRS 501(c)(4) statute -- a hundred years ago -- said that they were prohibited, and I wholeheartedly agree."
Citing Rep. Lloyd Doggett's (D-Texas) remarks that the statute should be reinterpreted to restrict political activities of 501(c)(4) groups, Blumenauer said the current law "invites people to raise vast sums of money and keep it secret and to engage in political activity."
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Sorry my friend, Earl, you are on the wrong side of the argument.
"Blumenauer said the current law "invites people to raise vast sums of money and keep it secret and to engage in political activity.""
Just like the Obama Administration does through its supporters, right ?
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I have a solution: abolish the whole concept of tax deductible contributions. Why should I - or taxpayers in general - effectively be subsidizing the organizations you support, and v.v?
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In his opening statement, Eastman said the IRS had released the NOM's tax information in 2012 to the gay rights advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign, and although much of the tax documents were redacted, the names of donors were left in place. The HRC posted the documents on its website, Eastman said.
I believe we all know what is going on here and it is not good.
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Abused by taxation without representation? Targeted for your beliefs by the IRS. If you are a Christian here, you are targeted by the Progressives for your beliefs. If you disagree with the regime, you are targeted for your beliefs and called a racist. Sounds like why the American Revolution occurred.
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Yeah, next they'll threaten to arrest anyone who says something against regime policy...hey wait.
These are federal agents conducting financial violence against its own people. These are appointees so it even has that nice Royal Agents of the King feel to it.
Two little truths of life for those of you who think this is OK. If your good friend is bragging to you about how he screwed somebody, if you don't think he is screwing you, you just haven't figured it out yet.
Eventually somebody will fill this position who does not like some aspect of you.
[SCPR.ORG] Comrade Maxine Waters has settled into her new job. This term, the L.A. Congresswoman became the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Financial Services Committee. The appointment came after a three-year fight to clear her name on banking-related ethics charges.
Waters waited a long time for the position -- 22 years. She says when she first came to Congress, "People were fleeing the old banking committee because of the [savings-and-loan] scandal and nobody wanted it."
Waters notes: "I stayed, I worked, I've learned, and I've earned the seniority."
With Republicans in charge of the House, Waters admits her ability to get things done is limited. But she still has a to-do list: reform of the quasi-governmental mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, boosting construction of residential rental property, and defending the landmark financial oversight law known as Dodd Frank.
Waters says the resistance isn't just from Republicans. She says banks are pushing back on Dodd Frank by making it tough for consumers to get loans and mortgages, "because they want to show us that we've got to work with them."
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A new high in low, We have sunk to the bottom with this person in charge.
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Not enough beer to make her pretty at any time....
Them teeth remind me of a 54 Buick Grille....
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So Tante Ju is a flying garbage can with a garbage can hung from the belly as Maxine Water is a filthy ho as the ranking demon-rat supervising a bunch of rotten bastards!
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A candidate for public offender, if I have ever seen one. Look you ugly fool, New York may support you, but you are seriously offensive to people who respect themselves and the people around them. You live like an arrested junior high school juvenile, yet you expect to have people take you seriously. No, Go away you perv.
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His M.O. is to shout down anyone who opposes him, it is painful to watch. I can't wait for someone to ask about his wife's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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