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Afghanistan
Airstrikes kill 20 Taliban militants in five provinces
[KhaamaPress] The security forces conducted Arclight airstrike
...KABOOM!...
s in five provinces of Afghanistan in the past 24 hours killing at least 20 Talibs, the military officials said.

The officials further added an airstrike in Chak-e Wardak district of Wardak province killed four Talibs.

Another airstrike in Zurmat district of Paktiya killed two Talibs, the officials said, adding that a similar airstrike in Shinkai district of Zabul killed three Talibs.

The officials also added that an airstrike in Maruf district of Kandahar killed 9 Talibs while an air raid in Nad Ali district of Helmand
...an Afghan province populated mostly by Pashtuns, adjacent to Injun country in Pak Balochistan...
killed two Talibs.

The Taliban
...Arabic for students...
group has not commented regarding the airstrikes so far.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [57 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


ISIS militants including a foreign national surrender to Afghan Special Forces in Nangarhar
[KhaamaPress] A group of four ISIS
...embracing their inner Islamic Brute...
gunnies including a foreign national surrendered to the Afghan forces in eastern Nangarhar
The unfortunate Afghan province located adjacent to Mohmand, Kurram, and Khyber Agencies. The capital is Jalalabad. The province was the fief of Younus Khalis after the Soviets departed and one of his sons is the current provincial Taliban commander. Nangarhar is Haqqani country..
province.

The Special Operations Corps said in a statement the gunnies surrendered to Afghan Special Forces
...established in 2007 with the intent of taking one conventional infantry kandak (battalion) from each of the regional ANA corps, giving them special training and equipment, and reorganizing based on the U.S. Army Rangers. Each battalion is assigned to one of the six regional corps. The commandos comprise 7% of the Afghan National Security Forces but conduct 70% to 80% of the fighting...
in Achin district of Nangarhar.

The statement further added that the foreign member of the group originally hails from Pakistain who surrendered to Special Forces together with his wife and four children.

The ISIS sympathizers have not commented regarding the surrender of ISIS gunnies so far.

This comes as counter-terrorism operations are underway against ISIS and other groups in the restive parts of Nangarhar province.

The acting minister of interior Massoud on Sunday told news hounds that the security forces have defeated ISIS gunnies in Nangarhar province.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [73 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


4 Pakistani militants blown up by own bomb in Paktiya province
[KhaamaPress] An explosion triggered by an improvised bomb killed four Pak holy warriors in South-eastern Paktiya province of Afghanistan.

According to a statement released by provincial government, a kaboom went off among Pak holy warriors in Andar area of Samkanai district on Sunday evening, killing four bully boys.

The statement further added that the holy warriors were busy planting a roadside kaboom in the area when the explosives went off prematurely.

Talibs and other bully boy groups often use improvised bomb to target the security forces and government officials.

However,
today is that tomorrow you were thinking about yesterday...
majority of such attacks inflict casualties on ordinary civilians.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [115 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And now they await final roll call in limbo where an elder council of past arrivals, the Jamiat e Ghabia will decide whether they may get one ugly virgin each, one ugly virgin but no organs, organs but no virgins... what.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Red wire/green wire or maybe the Djinn of Electrostatic Discharge. It's all the Will of Allan and you know how effen' ineffable he can be.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/12/2019 1:32 Comments || Top||

#3  I once saw an IED with all blue wires. Another time it was all black wires. Yet another had soldered an arming switch directly to the detonator. Most sleeper cells, especially Paki trained ones don't have access to russian grenade fuses and use improvised mercury switches. This one guy had made it so, the device actually fried it's own wiring prior to the detonator phase. But the look on his face at interrogation was like; 'Yo ! I'm the Mahdi of Mayhem.'
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 1:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Another customer served by Haliburton Bomb Kits for Little Martyrs (TM)
Posted by: Mercutio || 11/12/2019 7:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Customer of ACME IEDs, Wyle E. Jihadi
Posted by: Lex || 11/12/2019 7:45 Comments || Top||


IS 'Defeated' in Key Afghan Province
[AnNahar] The Islamic State
...formerly ISIS
...embracing their inner Islamic Brute...
or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that they were al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're really very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear western pols talk they're not really Moslems....

group's Afghan branch has been "defeated" in one of the key eastern provinces where it first sought to establish a stronghold, a top Afghan security official said Sunday.

The claim comes after the jihadists first burst into Afghanistan's conflict in 2015, when they overran large parts of Nangarhar
The unfortunate Afghan province located adjacent to Mohmand, Kurram, and Khyber Agencies. The capital is Jalalabad. The province was the fief of Younus Khalis after the Soviets departed and one of his sons is the current provincial Taliban commander. Nangarhar is Haqqani country..
and Kunar province
... which is right down the road from Chitral. Kunar is Haqqani country.....
s, near the Pakistain border.

In the years since, they have grabbed credit for a string of horrific bombings across Afghanistan, including at a wedding hall in Kabul, and have been continually attacked by US, Afghan and even Taliban
...mindless ferocity in a turban...
forces.

IS "were defeated in Nangarhar, their centers were destroyed," acting interior minister Massoud Andarabi told news hounds in Jalalabad, the Nangarhar historic provincial capital, amid ongoing operations against the jihadists.

"We will soon destroy their last centers. With the people's help, we will completely eliminate them. Some of their smaller groups are surrendering, other small groups will be eliminated in other provinces."

He went on to say that IS were being "completely defeated" in Afghanistan.

US Forces-Afghanistan, which closely monitors the IS footprint in Afghanistan, declined to comment, referring a query back to the Interior Ministry.

Attaullah Khogyani, the front man for Nangarhar's governor, said 32 IS fighters surrendered to government forces on Saturday.

"They are coming in big numbers," he told AFP.

IS have suffered a string of major defeats in recent months, including the collapse of their self-proclaimed "caliphate" in Syria and the death of the group's leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who was killed in a US raid in Syria last month.

Connections between Baghdadi and the IS affiliate in Afghanistan, better known as IS in the Khorasan, or IS-K, have always been murky.

But Khogyani said Baghdadi's death had disrupted IS-K's command and control structure.

"It has affected the fighters on the ground here, they are either surrendering to the government or going back to their ordinary lives," he said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [90 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


The Grand Turk
FETÖ scheme to infiltrate Foreign Ministry faces probe
[DAILYSABAH] An indictment on the Gülenist Terror Group's (FETÖ) scheme to plant its members into the Foreign Ministry has concluded and been referred to the court by prosecutors. Prosecutors are asking for prison terms up to 42 years for dozens of suspects accused of cheating their way into several posts in the Turkish diplomatic services.

Expert reports included in the indictment say members of the terrorist group committed fraud on admission exams for Foreign Ministry civil servant posts. Suspects were identified by their use of ByLock, an encrypted messaging app developed and exclusively used by FETÖ members, and their contacts with FETÖ handlers via payphones, a common method employed by the terrorist group for secretive communications.
Good idea. Use an encrypted messaging app used only by you. No one will suspect a thing!
FETÖ is accused of carrying out the July 15, 2016 coup attempt that killed 251 people and injured nearly 2,200 others. It has faced increased scrutiny since the coup attempt.

The Chief Prosecutor's Office in the capital Ankara has launched an investigation into the cases of cheating on a string of exams for Foreign Ministry employment last year. The investigation discovered collective cheating on exams for the lowest-level civil servant posts in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. FETÖ is accused of obtaining questions and answers of exams beforehand and distributing them to their followers. This follows a similar pattern to the terrorist group's efforts to infiltrate any institution they wanted to. Earlier investigations have revealed that between 2009 and 2014 – the year it was designated a national security threat – FETÖ stole questions and answers to exams for academic promotions, for the public sector as well as for rank promotions in law enforcement, the judiciary and bureaucracy. The group then supplied the answers to its members, effectively running an infiltration scheme to further its clout, dating back to the 1980s. Several members of the terrorist group were already convicted of mass cheating on a nationwide exam for civil servants.

Authorities have identified 246 suspects who passed the exams thanks to FETÖ's cheating scheme and were employed at the ministry. Four suspects who were members of a committee in charge of ministry's employment were also charged in the investigation. Arrest warrants were issued for 250 suspects in May and so far 105 suspects were detained, while the rest either remain at large or are imprisoned under other FETÖ-related cases.

Posted by: Fred || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [85 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte

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Turkey deports US national as it starts returning ISIL fighters, Greece refuses to accept him
[Al Jazeera] The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the only place on the face of the earth that misses the Ottoman Empire...
has deported a US national who is a member of ISIS
...embracing their inner Islamic Brute...
, according to a Ottoman Turkish official, as Ankara said it started repatriating captured fighters belonging to the gang.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [86 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State


Iraq
Unrest in Iraq kills 4 protesters, wounds dozens more
[AlAhram] A rights group in Iraq says four protesters have been killed and some 130 maimed in festivities between security forces and protesters in Nasriyah in the south of the country.

The semi-official Iraqi High Commission for Human Rights described on Monday the previous day's incidents in the city of Nasiryah as ``regrettable,'' adding that some of the maimed are at death's doors.

At least 320 protesters have been killed by security forces since the protests and unrest over living conditions began last month.

The Nasiriyah casualties occurred during confrontations outside the education directorate as security forces tear-gassed protesters trying to block employees from reaching the building in the city center.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [56 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iraq


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
IDF: On the road again...
[Twitter]



Posted by: 3dc || 11/12/2019 11:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [152 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Jihad (Palestian)


Sderot has suffered a direct hit from a rocket fired from Gaza.






Posted by: 3dc || 11/12/2019 05:53 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [185 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Jihad (Palestian)

#1  Kill every single member of Hamas.
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 11/12/2019 6:13 Comments || Top||

#2  But first start with PIJ.
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 11/12/2019 6:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Turn the entire western border of Israel into beach front property.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/12/2019 7:11 Comments || Top||


PA says IDF killed Palestinian man during West Bank clash
[IsraelTimes] The Paleostinian Health Ministry on Monday said IDF troops shot and killed a 22-year old West Bank man during festivities between Paleostinians and Israeli soldiers in the al-Arroub refugee camp north of Hebron.

Omar al-Badawi, a resident of the camp, was apparently not involved in the fighting between Israeli troops and Paleostinian marchers commemorating the 15th anniversary of the death of PLO chairman and Paleostinian Authority president Yasser Arafat.

Witnesses told the Haaretz daily that al-Badawi was targeted when he left his house to extinguish a fire caused by a Molotov cocktail that landed on the building. Video footage purporting to show the incident showed a young man carefully approaching the fire before falling down. Two men who appeared to be journalists were standing nearby.

The IDF has not yet responded to the PA ministry’s statement.

Late last month, 13 Paleostinians were arrested in a "wide-scale operation" in the al-Arroub camp, which the UN Paleostinian refugee agency UNRWA says "has one of the highest numbers of incursions of all refugee camps in the West Bank." The army said the arrests came in response to an uptick in stone-throwing and firekabooms on Israeli vehicles traveling on nearby Route 60.

"For the past few weeks, our patrols have been trying to halt daily attempts to attack commuters on Route 60 as part of their work securing the residents of the Etzion bloc," the army said at the time. The IDF said that troops found and confiscated an M16 rifle and ammunition during searches of al-Arroub.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 02:02 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [84 views] Top|| File under:


Israel hit by rockets after killing Islamic Jihad leader Abu al-Ata in Gaza
Israel switches Baha Abu Al-Atta off. Cancels His Ticket Spectacularly.
Comments in yellow and images are courtesy of Dron66046, who submitted another article on the same story.
[Jpost] Israel came under heavy rocket fire Tuesday morning after the Air Force bombed a building in the Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with an iron fist by Hamaswith about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about oppression and disproportionate response...
In addition to al-Ata’s killing, Syrian media reported that another senior PIJ commander, Akram al-Ajouri along with his wife and daughter were killed in an airstrike in Damascus overnight by an Israeli strike.
Strip in a targeted strike which killed Paleostinian Islamic Jihad
...created after many members of the Egyptian Moslem Brotherhood decided the organization was becoming too moderate. Operations were conducted out of Egypt until 1981 when the group was exiled after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat. They worked out of Gaza until they were exiled to Lebanon in 1987, where they clove tightly to Hezbollah. In 1989 they moved to Damascus, where they remain a subsidiary of Hezbollah...
See that smoke ? That's the end of BA3's carbon emitting days. I'm sure wails could be heard in the actual scene.
(PIJ) Leader Bahaa Abu al-Ata. Rocket sirens sounded in Israeli towns surrounding the Gaza Strip including Ashkelon, Ashdod and Gedera as two different barrages of rockets slammed into Israel.


Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/12/2019 00:30 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [595 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Jihad (Palestian)

#1  Sooner, or later, we'll have to obliterate Gaza.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 2:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Thank you, TW. My comments adorning a Mod's post ! I feel honored.

I realized just when I clicked the button I forgot to add the main link, sorry.

Congratulations and cheers for the superb hit. That's one out of three down.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 2:43 Comments || Top||

#3  p.s. Accusation that the action was politically motivated - reminding Gantz why he can't form a ruling coalition with Arab "Israeli" support in 5..4..3
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 3:01 Comments || Top||

#4 
"His wife always did complain about bringing his work home."
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 3:11 Comments || Top||

#5  israel should publicly thank the half dozen hamas operatives that helped target al ata
Posted by: lord garth || 11/12/2019 5:41 Comments || Top||

#6  IDF announces it is attacking Islamic Jihad targets in the Gaza Strip
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 5:52 Comments || Top||

#7  #3 Bingo
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 6:15 Comments || Top||

#8  IDF KILLS TWO MORE PALESTINIAN ISLAMIC JIHAD TERRORISTS
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 6:21 Comments || Top||

#9  Re: #3, #7 - C'mon G. admit it, you have a mole in the JP.,
Posted by: Mercutio || 11/12/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#10  #3 I've studied Pseudohomo Sinistrus for many years.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 7:54 Comments || Top||

#11  Of course, I've meant 3^2.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 8:05 Comments || Top||

#12  I guess, we finally getting the summer Gaza war - was postponed because of electoral deadlock.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 8:06 Comments || Top||

#13  According to a theory recently proposed here at the 'Burg, if y'all would just withdraw completely from Muslim lands, everyone could live in peace.

P.S. You also need to throw yourselves into the Med.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/12/2019 11:22 Comments || Top||

#14  You also have to legalize narcotics and all derivatives, SteveS. Without that the brilliant theory is incomplete. You wouldn't want them to make that excuse later, right ? Say it was a sound plan, but you didn't do it all the way ?
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 11:38 Comments || Top||

#15  IDF drone struck two Islamic Jihad terrorists north of the Gaza Strip on Tuesday evening as they were preparing to fire rockets on Israel, IDF spokesperson reported.

Hope this represent a successful tryout a new technique, rather than just luck.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 12:11 Comments || Top||

#16  Deliberately misstating positions so that they sound terrible and are easily countered. Gosh, what a surprise. This is called "strawmanning" and is one of the weakest forms of argument. Instead, use "steelmanning" and restate your opponent's arguments in the best possible terms, and make counter-arguments for those.



I said it would be a war-winning move for America. You know, America First? The country that we love? Let's win the war for us.

Israel is heavily armed and can defend itself quite well. We give them billions in subsidies every year for some reason, even though they are a wealthy First World country. Let them spend their own treasury and offer up their own young men to die. None of this has anything to do with America. America First. We're not here to make you happy. We're not going to do that.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 12:23 Comments || Top||

#17  Yuletide carol.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 12:40 Comments || Top||

#18  Hope this represent a successful tryout a new technique, rather than just luck.

I saw a write-up a couple years back on a neural network anomaly detector that had been trained to watch the entrance of a hotel. It could distinguish between normal arrival and departure of guests vs a carload of armed men zooming up to the entrance and jumping out. I can see where something like that could come in handy around Gaza.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/12/2019 13:07 Comments || Top||

#19  at least they weren't goatherders, right tool, Herb?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/12/2019 13:52 Comments || Top||

#20  I'm not the one who said it was OK to murder innocent civilians with drones as long as they were goatherders. You people did.

At what point do you realize by advocating murdering the innocent that you're the villains? And have a "my God, what have I done?" moment?

And if "murdering innocent people is wrong" doesn't sway you (Jesus Christ why would it not), realize that killing innocents is precisely what gets highlighted in every jihadi propaganda and raises numerous warriors for Islam.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 14:19 Comments || Top||

#21  murdering the innocent

According to the goats, they are all guilty of rape.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 14:34 Comments || Top||

#22  Nobody is sending up drones, directing them to 'target the largest group of innocents you see from up there and let 'em have it !'

That is their MO.

Are you even thinking clearly or is it some kind of empathic fascination with a specific ethnicity that's got you so riled up about it ?

Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 15:15 Comments || Top||

#23  Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

My argument is that murdering innocents is wrong, and does nothing but add fuel to the fire. It literally creates terrorists like the one in your disgusting picture. You did nothing to refute or even address the point. I'm used to doing battle with the Left, who do the same shit but occasionally you'll get someone who makes real arguments. People on this website are terrible at arguing. All you have are a bunch of strong emotions.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 15:26 Comments || Top||

#24 
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 15:40 Comments || Top||

#25  Nobody is sending up drones, directing them to 'target the largest group of innocents you see from up there and let 'em have it !'

What, really? You don't know this? Any gathering of military-aged men is assumed to be a terrorist meeting and is a valid target. It's considered a target of opportunity.

You know what happens when people come to help the injured afterwards? Another strike. It's called a "double tap". How do you people not know this?

“They came here to bring security but they kill our children, they kill our brothers and they kill our people,” said Haji Ghullam Rasoul, whose cousins died in the attack. “We’ve had enough.”

The US commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, has stressed that civilian casualties undermine American efforts to pacify the country by inflaming popular opposition."

Also interviewed was Gula Jan, who had brought the bodies of his two young sisters to the Bost Hospital in Lashkar Gah. Their house had also been fired upon by the US-led forces. “My two little sisters were martyred by the foreigners’ rocket,” he said, “and I will not reconcile with the infidels until I can avenge my sisters.”

Ahmad’s father was shot dead by occupation troops when he left his home to get food. “The body of my father was left inside our home for two days because the foreigners did not let us out to bury the body in the cemetery,” he said. “We were scared of being killed. They are cruel and the infidels have no sympathy for us.”

https://www.countercurrents.org/auken230210.htm This was back in 2010. You'd think we'd have won the war by now. But no. We're no closer to winning than we were back then.

How do you not see that murdering civilians is wrong and that by doing so we are only creating more terrorists? It's not only morally wrong, it's tactically foolish.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 15:45 Comments || Top||

#26  We're not here to make you happy. We're not going to do that.

Yeah, Erb.
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/12/2019 15:48 Comments || Top||

#27  I'm not the one who said it was OK to murder innocent civilians with drones as long as they were goatherders. You people did.

I think it was YOUR president Obama Erb, which that began trend.

Obama meditating on drone strikes and telling his aides that he’s “really good at killing people”
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/12/2019 16:04 Comments || Top||

#28  Last Year President Obama Reportedly Told His Aides That He's 'Really Good At Killing People'

Where's that fit on your 'eat shit' food pyramid?
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/12/2019 16:07 Comments || Top||

#29  According to my sources:

Equal Opportunity Drone Kills Combatants and Civilians Indiscriminately
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/12/2019 16:21 Comments || Top||

#30  " You people", Herb?

What people is that? And what people are you?
Posted by: Mercutio || 11/12/2019 16:34 Comments || Top||

#31  It was here on Rantburg, a few weeks ago, where murdering Afghan civilians was defended, as they were only goat herders. Because that makes it OK somehow. Didja forget? In the America where I grew up, people are equal no matter what their occupation. Just because someone works in agriculture doesn't mean that they're evil people who deserve death. That's the Left's viewpoint.

Where'd you get the idea I support Obama? Certainly not from any of my comments. He was the most divisive president of my lifetime. He made us fight with one another with his hateful racial statements. His cabinet was appointed for him by Citigroup. And citing evidence that he was in favor of murdering civilians isn't disproving my argument.

You people are just really, really bad at arguing.
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 16:43 Comments || Top||

#32  You people are just really, really bad at arguing.

Yep, we are more interested in exchanging ideas and arriving at conclusions than in winning an argument.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/12/2019 16:50 Comments || Top||

#33  I give up.

Herb's either just bugging you all for fun, or he's really one o' those amazing people they show you in horror movies. The kind who stop their cars to see if the tall man with a machete needs their help.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 11/12/2019 17:14 Comments || Top||

#34  Those damn neocons and their never-ending war on animal husbandry!
Posted by: SteveS || 11/12/2019 18:09 Comments || Top||

#35  #33: the next-to-lowest level of the pyramid of debate, ad hominem. Attacks the characteristics or authority of the writer without addressing the substance of the argument.

I mean, you literally invented that part about the horror film. You made it up, assigned it to me, and criticized me for what you made up. This is literally strawmanning.

You don't have any arguments because I don't think there are any. Murdering innocents is always wrong, and people who advocate for the murder of innocents are evil people. Hopefully you can have a "heel realization" and come to understand this, and turn around and get better. Few things are more crushing than realizing that you're one of the bad guys.

Hans... are we the baddies?"
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/12/2019 19:15 Comments || Top||

#36  Oh yeah, we're "the bad guys". Wonder why you're so disliked, you smarmy lil defeatist troll? Exhibit one
Posted by: Frank G || 11/12/2019 19:55 Comments || Top||

#37  So the "herb" part of his name is for the pot he's constantly smoking? Explains a lot.

Herb, you're the one on the side that claims every group of military-aged males moving around a war zone after dark is just a bunch of goat herders, and that every time a pack of idiots fires on an aircraft and gets what they deserve it was just a wedding with the "traditional" gun sex. Stop believing the lies pushed by the enemies of civilization, and maybe you'll encounter less hostility.

(The point of the "goat herders" line is that they obviously weren't. You don't need a dozen men, ages 15-30, out at night to tend to goats. In fact, any sane goat farmer brings their flock in for security, especially in a fricking war zone. Occam strongly suggests that the group of men were actually combatants, but for some reason some people will buy the most transparent lies if it makes the US look bad.

And, yes, you ARE a tool of the anti-Americans. You're just hiding behind "America First" as a fig leaf, unwilling to admit Islam declared war on us from day one of our founding.)
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/12/2019 20:07 Comments || Top||

#38  I suppose Herb will not be buying pizza for IDF?
Posted by: European Conservative || 11/12/2019 20:11 Comments || Top||

#39  "Murdering innocents is always wrong, and people who advocate for the murder of innocents are evil people."

Except the "goat herders" weren't innocents. They were combatants, likely unlawful ones. The people around here have been following these stories for 20+ years -- we've seen it all, and know better than to call for it.

Making fun of your naivete (real or feigned) isn't calling for the murder of innocents. It's making fun of the way some people fall for the most transparent propaganda. I bet you just break into tears when you see a pristine stuffed animal propped up bombed-out Hamas command post, er, "home".
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/12/2019 20:12 Comments || Top||

#40  Remember the "baby milk factories"?
Posted by: European Conservative || 11/12/2019 20:36 Comments || Top||

#41  Poor Herb believes every word that comes out of the enemies mouth gospel. If they said we killed women and children, it must be the truth Herb.

No chance that those bombs came from the other side, only to blame America for it?
Posted by: bbrewer126 || 11/12/2019 21:43 Comments || Top||


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PIJ , Akram Ajouri, Son
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#1  No one saw them coming or going. So...it wasn't the Juice. It wasn't anybody. It was a workplace accident.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 11/12/2019 20:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Herb: "And probably innocent civilians! You h8terz!"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/12/2019 21:11 Comments || Top||


ISIS claims assassination of Armenian Catholic priest Hanna Ibrahim from Qamishli & his father Ibrahim Hanna Bido, nicknamed Father Hosib
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ISIS claims responsibility for murder of Armenian priest and his father in NE Syria

[Rudaw] The Islamic State
...embracing their inner Islamic Brute...
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group (ISIS) on Monday grabbed credit for the gunning down of an Armenian Catholic Priest and his father in the northeast Syrian province of Deir ez-Zor, just hours after the shooting took place.

ISIS claimed Monday afternoon via its Telegram channels to have killed "two Christian priests" in al-Zir village, in the al-Busayrah sub-district of Deir ez-Zor.

Syrian state TV SANA reported the "martyrdom" of Priest Housib Abraham Bidoyan, head of the Armenian Catholic Church in Qamishli, and his father. The two were killed by unidentified button men, SANA said, as they travelled southbound from Hasaka province to Deir ez-Zor.

The Armenian community in Syria, whose current numbers are unknown, are the survivors of the Ottoman genocide of the Armenians in the early twentieth century. Driven into Syria by the notorious "death marches", many eventually ended up settling in the country.

A church and memorial named the Armenian Genocide Martyrs’ Memorial stands in Deir ez-Zor. The church was blown up in 2014. Though its perpetrators were never identified, some blamed ISIS, who held control of most of the province at the time, for the attack. Others have levelled blame at Jabhat al-Nusra
...formally Jabhat an-Nusrah li-Ahli al-Sham (Support Front for the People of the Levant), also known as al-Qaeda in the Levant. They aim to establish a pan-Arab caliphate. Not the same one as the Islamic State, though .. ...
, a former affiliate of al-Qaeda in Syria. Such attacks endangered already vulnerable Christian communities, forcing many to seek refuge abroad.

The al-Busayrah area has seen ISIS sleeper cells ramp up their activities against the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and their local allies as of late.

The increase mirrors an uptick in ISIS activity across northern Syria in recent months, particularly since The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...Qatar's satrapy in Asia Minor...
and Ottoman Turkish-backed forces launched Operation Peace Spring ‐ targeting the SDF and their local allies ‐ early last month.

Turkey began the land phase of its invasion into Kurdish-held territories in northern Syria on October 9. The attack redirected Kurdish force focus from their operations against ISIS sleeper cells in northern Syria ‐ as had been warned by Kurdish leaders in the months before the operation commenced.

According to the Rojava Information Center, ISIS has claimed 30 attacks in the first ten days of November alone - a 300 percent increase from its activity levels prior to the Ottoman Turkish invasion.

As of late, US troops, who had initially been pulled out from most SDF-controlled areas, have returned to Deir ez-Zor to protect its oilfields from the reach of ISIS.

With things being calmer on the frontlines since two ceasefire deals - one between Turkey and the US, and another between Turkey and Russia - the SDF has resumed its anti-ISIS operations in the area.

On Monday, DeirEzzor 24, a local news outlet covering the province, reported an SDF-led "extensive security campaign", backed by the International Coalition, began on November in the town of al-Hawaij, to the south of Busayrah.

According to the local outlet, an ISIS Emir named Hamam al-Laffi, also known as Abi al-Hareth, was arrested in a dawn raid on November 10 alongside some former group members.
Posted by: Fred || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [171 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  "Keep dem Catholics away from our boys!"
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/12/2019 16:09 Comments || Top||


Two car explosions in Qamishli, 1st near the Chaldean Church, 2nd in central market
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Three explosions in downtown Qamishli kill at least 6

[Rudaw] Three explosions rocked the center of the northeast Syrian city of Qamishli, killing at least six people and injuring 47 others, according to a local health authority.

The first two explosions took place in front of a hotel in quick succession, according to an eyewitness.

“When the explosion took place, I jumped into a shop. There was about five minutes between both explosions. When the first one took place, we came out to see if there were any injuries,” the witness told Rudaw reporter Viviyan Fatah at the scene.

“When we arrived there the second explosion took place. Then, we all dispersed. I took hold of the hand of one of the injured and took him,” he continued.

The hotel suffered 'great material damage' in the two blasts, Fatah reported.

Qamishli is a predominantly Kurdish city in northeast Syria, governed by both local Kurdish forces and the Syrian government.

The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) had been in control of the city for nearly a decade until they withdrew as part of a Russia-brokered deal with Turkey, which launched Operation Peace Spring against the SDF in early October.

In the latest available figures, the Jazira canton's Health Committee put the death toll at 6, with 47 injured.

Local media initially reported three people died and five were injured in the blasts.
The first two explosions were carried out using car bombs, according to Fatah, who also heard a third of currently unidentified origin.

A large number of security forces had been deployed to the city since Monday morning, signaling that the forces may have had intelligence about the explosions, Fatah added.

SDF spokesperson Mustafa Bali tweeted a video purportedly showing the immediate aftermath of the explosions.

"The fight to exterminate Kurdish rights and existence is continuing. Carried out by the same power with different names. TFSA [Turkey Free Syrian Army], ISIS, Turkey are a de-facto coalition of anti-Kurdish campaign."

Bali's use of the TFSA acronym refers to the Free Syrian Army, with T for Turkey added to the commonly used FSA.

As of yet, no one has claimed responsibility for the explosions.

Kanaan Barakat, co-chair of interior committee for the Jazira Region which includes Qamishli, told Rudaw that they suspect Islamic State (ISIS) to be behind the attack, adding that the group wants to “seek revenge on civilians” for the recent death of leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Barakat added the “remotely-controlled car bombs” suspected to have been used in the blasts were primarily targeting civilians, though security force members are among the injured.

Investigations are underway to find more about the explosions, according to the local official.

Rojava Information Center, a monitoring group run by local volunteers, said a “smaller” explosion on Monday took place outside a Chaldean Catholic church.

The Syriac Military Council, a Christian group affiliated to the SDF, confirmed in a tweet that one of the explosions took place near the church.
Posted by: Fred || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [61 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte


Turkish-backed armed opposition groups shelling Syrian government forces' checkpoints & positions on M4, at Sharakrak village
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Posted by: Fred || 11/12/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [104 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte



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