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2019-11-12 Cyber

Google building medical history on millions

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Posted by 3dc 2019-11-12 06:15|| || Front Page|| [12 views ] Top
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#1 Disgusting. Terrifying.

Break up Google. Break these sick little greedy bastards' stranglehold on our personal information.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 07:43|| 2019-11-12 07:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Grant every citizen perpetual copyright of their personal information that can not be legally waivered. Then, like minimum wage, let the legislative bodies set the rate those who use or gather or sell the information pay the copyright holder for it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-11-12 07:53|| 2019-11-12 07:53|| Front Page Top

#3 No for-profit non-medical entity should ever have access to Americans' personally-identifiable medical data or health records. Not one. Never.

What a sick f---ing nightmare society we are creating for ourselves and our children.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 08:13|| 2019-11-12 08:13|| Front Page Top

#4 This is yet another leap toward creation of a ChiCom-style "Social Credit" system.

Managed not by the state but by those insanely greedy, socially and emotionally stunted boy-men sheisskopfen Zuckerberg, Brin, Bezos.

Break them up.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 08:17|| 2019-11-12 08:17|| Front Page Top

#5 What is next ? 'Algorithms' that selective undermine and censor opinion, shunt research, obstruct careers by eugenics based descriptors ?

Posted by Dron66046 2019-11-12 10:04|| 2019-11-12 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't see how this is not a huge HIPAA violation.

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-11-12 10:12|| 2019-11-12 10:12|| Front Page Top

#7 It’ll make single payer Medicaid for all soooo much easier. “You are taking more than your fair share of treatment, you are not productive enough to spend money on— so sorry, here is an aspirin to help you feel better.”

Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-12 10:43|| 2019-11-12 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Apparently Google has "partnered" with Ascension Health so they are not a HIPAA violator...yet

Posted by Frank G 2019-11-12 11:03|| 2019-11-12 11:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Time to go full Teddy on Silicon Valley?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-12 12:01|| 2019-11-12 12:01|| Front Page Top

#10 If these shitty oligarch-wannabes get hold of our medical info, we are well and truly f---ed as a nation.

Personal liberty will have no meaning at all.

These people and their companies literally profit from selling every piece of your behavioral information they can get their eyes upon. This is far more disturbing than anything happening in the Swamp.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 12:09|| 2019-11-12 12:09|| Front Page Top

#11 It's a package deal, Lex - big government & big business take care of each other.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-11-12 12:12|| 2019-11-12 12:12|| Front Page Top

#12 ^ = "Social Credit," here we come

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 12:14|| 2019-11-12 12:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Google et al exist upon a little commodity called electricity. Cut it and cut them. Doesn't seem to be too far off for those in Calimexico. Nice grid you have there, terrible is something happened to it. Blame climate change. Heh.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-11-12 15:40|| 2019-11-12 15:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Ah, the fresh voice of a contrarian
(not Erb!)

Epic, Cerner, McKesson, Press Gainey, et. al., are all monolithic legacy EHR mgmt systems built through acquisition and glueware. Founded on the cashflow premise that efficient successful medicine comes from streamlining workflows.

There is not a REAL 2 sigma median statistical patient. Any chronic illness treatment MUST integrate co-morbidities. If Google can BIGDATA tens of millions of medical records, maybe we can get patient centric medicine instead of managing the institutional ADT and LOS reimbursement cycles.

Posted by Skidmark 2019-11-12 16:53|| 2019-11-12 16:53|| Front Page Top

#15 OK, Skid, then let Google manage the unified database as a contractor to a newly-created public utility that will maintain a strict separation of all health data from all commercial use by Google or anyone else of that database and its contents.

I hear you re the Shitshow that is management of medical data, but this is a problem of TRUST.

There is utterly no reason that we can or should trust Google with such sensitive data-- unless we create Ft. Knox-quality trust, privacy and security around this data and keep Google from figuring out ways to make $$$$ off of the data itself.

They can earn a management fee, I suppose. But no use of the data whatsoever by Google.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 17:20|| 2019-11-12 17:20|| Front Page Top

#16 There is not a REAL 2 sigma median statistical patient. Any chronic illness treatment MUST integrate co-morbidities. If Google can BIGDATA tens of millions of medical records, maybe we can get patient centric medicine instead of managing the institutional ADT and LOS reimbursement cycles.

I’m sure that was someone’s bright idea in the beginning. But Google has built up such a legacy of distrust, and there are those within the company and without who would choose to be untrustworthy with the data, that it will be hard for them to do only the good thing without giving in to the temptation to organize the peasants for their own good...as they already do with their search algorithms.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-11-12 21:31|| 2019-11-12 21:31|| Front Page Top

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