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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Two men arrested in attempt to remove ATM using Honda Accord
Two Kingsport residents are arrested following an early Sunday morning burglary attempt by one of the men and an unknown subject accused of trying to drag an ATM machine from a local business, using a logging chain hooked from the machine to their vehicle.

Pablo Ibanez, 105 Anco Place No. 6, and Keith Tester, Anco Place No. 9, were located after police found a Honda Accord at Anco Place that matched the description of a vehicle witnesses had seen leaving the area of Walgreen's, 3900 Fort Henry Drive, and flee north on Moreland Drive around 6:30 a.m.

KPD investigators determined Ibanez and an unknown subject allegedly broke a window and wrapped a logging chain around an ATM machine and attempted unsuccessfully to drag it from the store using the older model Accord.

Police say Ibanez confessed to the burglary and attempted theft of the ATM as well as his part in a separate incident Sep. 1 at Lime Light on West Stone Drive. He also implicated Tester in the Lime Light burglary.

Police say most of the stereo equipment Lime Light owner Olivia Swafford reported stolen, over $10,000 worth, has been recovered.

Police say Tester admitted to his part in the Lime Light burglary and theft.

Ibanez is charged with two counts of burglary, theft over $10,000 and attempted theft over $1,000 in connection to the Walgreens and Lime Light burglaries.

Tester is charged with burglary and theft over $10,000 in connection to the Lime Light burglary.

The pair are scheduled to appear in General Sessions court at 1 p.m. Thursday.

Posted by: Delphi || 09/28/2007 13:14 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, well, medical school's expensive...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 15:30 Comments || Top||


Road Crew Blasted for Painting Yellow Stripes Over Raccoon’s Body
Complete with video, TV correspondent and bystander interview.
Posted by: Delphi || 09/28/2007 08:47 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not that raccoons have fleas or that fleas carry disease and usually will attached themselves to something/someone else for fresh blood. Or that the painting crew had the proper items to pick the kill up themselves without throwing the dice on that issue. It's dead Jim.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/28/2007 9:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Nobody has a sense of humor anymore.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/28/2007 9:48 Comments || Top||

#3 
Somebody had to do it. Might as well be me.
Posted by: ed || 09/28/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#4  A definite candidate to be entered into the Rantburg photo library
Posted by: kilowattkid || 09/28/2007 9:57 Comments || Top||

#5  That ISNT a raccon, cherryboys.

That is a Possum. You Yankees live in the city dont you?
Posted by: Angleton9 || 09/28/2007 10:44 Comments || Top||

#6  The image is from Fred's library. Haven't seen near enough of it these days.
Posted by: ed || 09/28/2007 10:51 Comments || Top||

#7  If others didn't live in the city, your uncrowded southern countryside wouldn't be so any more, Angleton9 dear.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2007 11:07 Comments || Top||

#8  The event occurred about three miles from my home. I've driven that stretch of Archer Avenue. It's more like a semi-rural road at that point, and no doubt critters try and fail to cross the road.

And as a resident of Illinois, I can testify that no way in hell would the IDOT people striping the road slow down, let alone stop.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/28/2007 11:09 Comments || Top||

#9  The lines on the road by my house appear to have been painted by Mrs. Green's kindergarten class.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/28/2007 11:26 Comments || Top||

#10  ...no way in hell would the IDOT IDiOTs people striping the road slow down, let alone stop. There. Fixed it for ya, doc.
Posted by: GK || 09/28/2007 11:29 Comments || Top||

#11  It's funny, for Pete's sake.
The only problem is it's not very flat yet.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/28/2007 12:39 Comments || Top||

#12  Angleton9:

If you follow the link and view the video, you can see clearly that the animal is indeed a racoon.

Now pay attention: the picture ed posted (the one showing the possum) is one that has been floating around the internet for years, and is NOT related to this particular article.

"Cherryboy" yourself, dipwit.
Posted by: Dave D. || 09/28/2007 12:43 Comments || Top||

#13 

I guess he slipped... Too bad...
Posted by: BigEd || 09/28/2007 12:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Alternate Link

The Breitbart Link did not work for me... But I found this from the Dallas CBS affiliate of the story...
Posted by: BigEd || 09/28/2007 12:51 Comments || Top||

#15  Oh. Folks are pissed because they're lazy. State workers lazy? That's shocking...
I originally thought people were pissed because of the defacement of the corpse of one of Gaia's woodland creatures...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 12:57 Comments || Top||

#16  Having dealt with local useless bureaucrats over a simple issue of a broken trash can, supplied by the city, I know what the moron who did this would say if asked..

"I am in charge of painting stripes. The dead raccoon is an animal control issue. It's not my job to pick it up, or to call them, either."
Posted by: BigEd || 09/28/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#17  "I am in charge of painting stripes. The dead raccoon is an animal control issue. It's not my job to pick it up, or to call them, either."

This picture has been in my stash for a very long (internet) time, with the mention "winner of the not-my-job award".
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/28/2007 13:59 Comments || Top||

#18  Btw, I went to the sinktrap to get the juicy bits, and I don't find A9's comment particularly inflammatory, unless I'm missing something, a southerners dissing yankees & city folks.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/28/2007 14:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Not that raccoons have fleas or that fleas carry disease and usually will attached themselves to something/someone else for fresh blood. Or that the painting crew had the proper items to pick the kill up themselves without throwing the dice on that issue. It's dead Jim.

Then, just call that guy, he will take care of the remains.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/28/2007 14:04 Comments || Top||

#20  Him wern't that bad but Ima recall maybe A9 is having issues of weirdness.
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 09/28/2007 16:59 Comments || Top||

#21  See, now I didn't realize that the mods were the ones posting the "too stupid" picture. I thought it was the guy with his name at the bottom. This explains some things. Now all is clear.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 09/28/2007 19:06 Comments || Top||

#22  saw the sinktrap for A-9 ....whew! Surprised I'm not there more often. Quick trigger....
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2007 21:28 Comments || Top||

#23  Surprised I'm not there more often.

Me 2 8-)
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/28/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||

#24  Heck, I'm surprised I'm not there myself sometimes LOL
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 21:46 Comments || Top||

#25  To clarify, the "Too Stupid" picture is automatically plopped in when a mod hits the Troll button. FYI.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/28/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||

#26  Channeling the comment on the Three Gorges Dam ecological disaster story:

"Now you tell us," Sea. Like Angie said, that explains a LOT, I always thought that picture was being posted by the person of that comment. Now I know they're being sinktrapped.
Posted by: BA || 09/28/2007 22:03 Comments || Top||


Little girl in Morocco photo not Madeleine
A BLONDE girl photographed by a tourist in Morocco is not the missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann, said journalists who met the girl and her family yesterday. British and Spanish reporters traced the girl, who was pictured being carried on a Moroccan woman's back in a sling. The picture was published the world over. An English newspaper identified the girl as a five-year-old from the village of Zinat.

Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann, Madeleine's parents, said identification of the girl as a native of the north African country, "if true", was a setback, but the search would continue.

Experts were said to be still enhancing and examining the image, taken three weeks ago by a Spanish tourist, in the hope that the girl was Madeleine, who disappeared on 3 May from a holiday apartment in Portugal. But Spain's Telecinco television channel also claimed to have traced the family in the picture, taken on 31 August in Zinat in northern Morocco, on the road between Chaouen and Tetuan, further casting doubt on the possibility that it is Madeleine.
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Tom Cruise building '£5m bunker to protect against alien attack'
Hollywood star Tom Cruise is planning to build a bunker at his Colorado home to protect his family in the event of an intergalactic alien attack, according to new reports. The Mission Impossible actor, who is a dedicated follower of Scientology, is reportedly fearful that deposed galactic ruler 'Xenu' is plotting an evil revenge attack on Earth.

According to American magazine Star, a source said: "Tom is planning to build a US$10 million bunker under his Telluride estate."
That should help the local construction industry a little ...
"It's a self-contained underground shelter with a high tech air purifying shelter."

The facility is said to have enough room for ten people - including wife Katie Holmes, 17-month-old daughter Suri and his adopted children Isabella, 14, and Connor, 12.

A spokesperson for the actor has denied the reports, saying: "This is completely untrue. He is not building on his property at all."
"It's an underground .. recreation room. With reinforced concrete walls."
"What about the air purification system?"
"He likes clean air. Don't you?"
The 45-year-old is currently filming World War II movie Rubicon (formerly known as Valkyrie) in Germany, where he is regularly joined on set by Katie and Suri.
Posted by: Delphi || 09/28/2007 11:41 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Tom Cruise building '£5m bunker to protect against alien attack' seriously whacked out

There. Fixed it for ya.
Posted by: Mike || 09/28/2007 14:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Laugh as much as you will, but if/when xenu comes a-knocking to his door, then that will be money well spent. That could happen, you know. Really.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/28/2007 14:51 Comments || Top||

#3  The facility is said to have enough room for ten people - including wife Katie Holmes, 17-month-old daughter Suri and his adopted children Isabella, 14, and Connor, 12.

Yeah, so when Xenu comes back...SCREW YOU, NICOLE!!!
Posted by: Tom Cruise: Megastar || 09/28/2007 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  A state-of-the-art bunker could come in handy. Xenu isn't the only threat around. Ahmanidiot is looking for the bomb; Pakistan has it and folks are talking about normalizing Khan, Putin is stomping his little feet, and there's that question of what China will do if/when their new economic model hiccups.

"I'll let you be in my dream if I can be in yours."
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/28/2007 15:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Ya really think Tom would wanna live if there was no one left to...worship him?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 15:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Why do you think there's room for the kids? Plus I'm pretty sure he'll have all his films and reviews (the glowing ones, anyway).
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 15:58 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm so surprised he didn't agitate for a part in "Battlefield Earth", L.Ron Hubbards "masterpiece"....
Posted by: Flutle Henbane2847 || 09/28/2007 17:07 Comments || Top||

#8  I'm gratified to hear that there will quality stock available to repopulate the earth.
Posted by: KBK || 09/28/2007 19:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Must mean the low-orbit NOAH'S/SPACE ARKS scientists want developed to save elements of humanity when ocean waters cover the earth, ala DUBYA = GLOBAL WARMING. D *** NG IT, HOW CAN THE SUN SURRENDER IFF THE OWG WON'T BUILD A SUN/STAR DESTROYING MISSLE ala STAR TREK: NG - NEXUS. Ya hear us, Sol, ya'll go Nova only when the Global Gummint tells ya to - IT WASN'T OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR, AND IT TAINT OVER NOW!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/28/2007 20:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Yep you never know when ol Xenu's going to pop out the nukes, volcanoes and antifreeze.

Scientologists are complete and utter dupes - or else assholes.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/28/2007 21:22 Comments || Top||

#11  This time Lord Xenu, PLEASE, PLEASE, make sure to throw Tom Cruise in the f*cking volcano.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/28/2007 22:25 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
An Excellent Presentation of the Katrina Flooding of New Orleans
Not WoT, I know. But an example of what MSM CAN do when it chooses to. This time-line animation of the flooding of New Orleans is consistent with what I know (not insignificant) to be true.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/28/2007 14:45 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Don't look Matt.
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 09/28/2007 17:12 Comments || Top||

#2  An excellent presentation.
Where's the part when Bush blew up the levees?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 18:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Thanks, G'more.
Posted by: Seafarious || 09/28/2007 19:02 Comments || Top||

#4  In all seriousness, I heard there was a study by a (Pabst) Blue Ribbon panel as to what went so wrong down in New Orleans.

The consensus of the panel is they had a freakin' huge hurricane.
Posted by: eLarson || 09/28/2007 21:49 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Three Gorges Dam is a disaster in the making.
Another version of the story we posted yesterday.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/28/2007 00:26 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Standard eco doom and gloom. You are all going to die cos you are getting modern homes, electricity and sewage. What horseshit.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/28/2007 0:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Three Gorges Dam is a disaster in the making.

Archaeologically speaking? Said and done, long ago. Environmentally so? We'll let China's existing—and none too reassuring—track record speak for itself.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/28/2007 1:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Now they tell us!
Posted by: Mike || 09/28/2007 6:35 Comments || Top||

#4  As usual, the headline, and the story, are misleading, aimed at the people who will read the head line and nod their heads.

a host of threats such as -
1. conflicts over land shortages, sounds like a legal issue to me, not an ecological one.
2. ecological deterioration as a result of irrational development Could be a local planning and zoning problem, no?
3. erosion and landslides on steep hills around the dam. Were the hillsides steepened by the dam construction? If not, this is a continuing geological problem, not related to the dam.
4. algae bloom downstream from the Three Gorges and a deterioration in aquatic life. So this is really the only ecological 'disaster' and apparently, it hasn't happened yet.

Another Times-made mountain-from-molehill.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/28/2007 6:55 Comments || Top||

#5  couldn't be any worse than them poisoning several cities drinking water in china and russia
Posted by: sinse || 09/28/2007 8:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Bobby, re: erosion & landslides, the dam does greatly accelerate this due to the way in which the water level scours much farther up the hillsides than would be the case if the river flowed freely. And it gets worse over time, as landslides raise the water level, which erodes farther up .....
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#7  couldn't be any worse than them poisoning several cities drinking water in china and russia children of the world with leaded painted toys......
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||

#8  RE #6: Thanks, lotp; I can see that now. I thought you were a teacher, not an engineer!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/28/2007 12:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Both, sort of. ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 12:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Like I sort of pour tea.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2007 12:41 Comments || Top||

#11  A while back, I think every rantburg discussion about Three Gorges included the word "fly-ash".
Posted by: Penguin || 09/28/2007 13:30 Comments || Top||

#12  The two points that make me wonder are related to the landslides and hydrological flow.

I'm not an engineer but I have heard that the seepage into the surrounding earth from raising water levels can cause serious trouble by undermining various geologic structures (if not the dam itself) I also know, from personal experience, that the underground flow of water can change dramatically and quickly. Did the engineers of this project adequately take all that into account?

Additionally they spoke about the reduction in flow rate of the feeder streams. This is causing polution backups and can cause other problems as well.

I still don't think that this would have been publicized at all if there weren't a much bigger problem underneath.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/28/2007 13:35 Comments || Top||

#13  The Fly-Ash Liberation Army will NOT be ignored!....the construction was shoddy - many times the level (% of flyash substituted for cementitious materials) of flyash allowed in structural concrete in teh U.S.

but hey! It made it cheaper and got rid of a lot of flyash...kinda communist, ya know?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2007 19:52 Comments || Top||

#14  Alaska Paul has remained the King of 3-Gorges™, fwd'g a 3-Gorges newsletter periodically to me. Together, we marvel at what a collosal POS it is. We are both licensed civil engineers...YMMV :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2007 19:54 Comments || Top||

#15  What's the over/under for a collapse in a year or two, Frank?

Bobby - my area of expertise is computing and robotics. On those topics I can claim some significant expertise. (And I do teach.)

OTOH my knowledge of hyraulics and materials is limited to some basic undergrad stuff. We're lucky to have Frank and Alaska Paul's real expertise on dams and bridges and such.
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 20:23 Comments || Top||

#16  Speaking of which, there's a newsletter about this dam. Oh my ....
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 20:24 Comments || Top||

#17  no immediate danger - if they don't threaten Taiwan, but it has no long-term future with all the issues accurately portrayed above. It could hardly have been more badly done. Another ChiCom Success™
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2007 20:58 Comments || Top||

#18  From a June 2, 2003 update:

Water levels rise in Three Gorges dam, cracks reappear

a general inspection of the dam in mid-May revealed that repair work to fix large cracks on its 185 metre-high concrete face had not been completely successful.

"We found that some of the vertical cracks on the dam that were repaired have reopened, even though we put a great deal of money and effort into the repair work," Pan Jiazheng, an engineer, said in a speech following the end of the inspection.

"We have a long way to go, as we enter the third phase of the dam construction. I hope we will do our best to build a first-class project rather than a dam with 10-metre-long cracks," he said in the speech published by the Changjiang Water Resources Commission.

Mr Pan, 75, a member of the Academy of Sciences of China and the former deputy director of the Engineering Academy, added, "We should absolutely not be proud of ourselves."

The highly controversial project has been criticised as an environmental disaster and the destroyer of a cultural and historic tradition in the scenic gorges that have been the centre of life on the Yangtze river for millennia.

Naysayers have questioned whether the vast amount of energy generated by the dam, about 84.7 billion kilowatts a year, can be sold, while doubting the huge project's ability to control floods on the river's traditional flood plains hundreds of kilometres downstream.

Posted by: Zenster || 09/28/2007 22:18 Comments || Top||

#19  even the inspection reports have to be looked at in a political light. That's pathetic, and a recipe for disaster
Posted by: Frank G || 09/28/2007 23:04 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Salvation Army territorial commander gunned down
Unidentified assailants gunned down Boob Boverieki, a 45-years-old Norwegian national and territorial commander of the country’s oldest non-government organisation, The Salvation Army (TSA), on Thursday night at the TSA Headquarters. “This is totally an ‘internal conspiracy murder’ and TSA officials have nominated their colleague Major Younas Joseph as culprit,” Superintendent of Police (SP) Ahsan Younas said.

Boob Boverieki was deputed in Pakistan about a year ago, and he was living with his wife and two kids in the residential portion of the TSA Headquarters located at Queens Road. On Thursday evening, at about 6:45 pm, Boob chaired an official meeting and then participated in a prayer before leaving his office for his residence.

TSA officials informed that there was a small dark alley that divided the headquarters into residential and official portions. “We heard two shots fired immediately after Boob had left his office. Upon reaching the alley, we found Boob lying in a pool of blood and there was no one nearby,” they said.

Property dispute: SP Ahsan Younas said TSA official Peter, a New Zeeland national, had lodged a case with the Civil Lines police. He said Peter, in his application, nominated TSA official Major Younas Joseph as culprit. The SP said the complainant stated a property dispute between Boob and Younas Joseph to be the reason for Boob’s murder. He said circumstantial evidence supported the complainant’s allegations.
Posted by: Fred || 09/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unidentified assailants gunned down Boob Boverieki, a 45-years-old Norwegian national and territorial commander of the country’s oldest non-government organisation, The Salvation Army (TSA), on Thursday night at the TSA Headquarters.

Anyone in their right mind knows that an exposed Boob is an invitation to trouble.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/28/2007 1:46 Comments || Top||

#2  That was a mistake. Everybody knows that if you hit one of the Sallies, they'll hit you back hard.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/28/2007 9:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Salvation Army? The Christmas bell-ringers? I never found them that annoying. Besides they do a lot of good.

Sounds like Boob, besides having name problems, had a property dispute.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/28/2007 9:47 Comments || Top||

#4  TSA is an active Christian outreach group.

Islamicists are threatened.
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/28/2007 10:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Aftenposten offers some additional details:

The suspect under arrest is himself a former Salvation Army officer who was second-in-command to Brekke, but who had been fired because of alleged financial wrongdoing.

The police are describing the murder as part of an internal conflict at the organization. The conflict that motivated the murder, according to police, had to do with an expensive piece of real estate.


Anyway, that's what the Pakistani police told Aftenposten.no
Posted by: mrp || 09/28/2007 10:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Because the Salvation Army is, like, KNOWN for their flamboyant lifestyles and great wealth.

Pfeh.
Posted by: lotp || 09/28/2007 12:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Now this is the definition of a martyr - not the splodeydope types.
Posted by: xbalanke || 09/28/2007 15:36 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
The day Burma was silenced
The junta showed a subtle and malignant cunning, and then moved against the monks
the link includes photos that show the death of a Japanese journalist.
Over at BelmontClub Wretchard has a few words about this.

Burma's generals silenced the Buddhist monks yesterday morning. For a week and a half, the monks had been on the streets of Rangoon in their tens of thousands, and their angry calm gave courage to the people around them.

But overnight, they were beaten, shot and arrested, and locked in their monasteries. Handfuls of them emerged yesterday — two or three brave individuals, a dozen at most — but nothing to approach the mass marches of the previous nine days. Everyone felt their absence.

You could see it in the faces of the civilian demonstrators who took to the streets anyway, in defiance of the official warnings. You could see it too in the swagger of the riot police, banging their batons menacingly on their shields as they advanced.

The monks were moral shields; without them the marchers had lost a lucky charm. They felt less like crusaders for justice and more like what they resembled — scared, angry kids in T-shirts facing well-drilled troops with automatic weapons.

They stood their ground as long as they dared, too long for some of them. At least nine people were killed, according to patchy reports, and eleven others injured. The dead included a Japanese photographer.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/28/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But of course no one wants to acknowledge how communist China is playing both sides of the fence in this dispute. Perish any thought that a socialist regional superpower might want to influence the upshot of this immensely important Southeast Asian territorial outcome.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/28/2007 2:22 Comments || Top||

#2  And from the left the sound of crickets. There is no anti-Jewish, anti-British or anti-American angle and consequently they don't care. That and the paymasters of street protest back the junta.
Posted by: Excalibur || 09/28/2007 11:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Think the general's give a shit about world opinion?
Take the army, give the points...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  There has to be somewhat to manipulate this. Hell the Communists convinced the Bhuddists in Vietnam that the Diem regime was going to enforce Catholocism, thus convincing them to burn themselves alive in front of cameras. There has to be something that can be said or done to bring that sort of resolve out in the monks.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/28/2007 12:18 Comments || Top||

#5  If they were fighting shaolin monks like in the old Kung Fu Theater movies they wouldn't take this shit lying donw.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/28/2007 18:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Apparently most males in Bhurma do two stints as monks: at age 16 and again at 20 or so. This isn't excess children being sent away to be fed by the monasteries, or the few who feel a call to the religious life. And the monasteries can refuse to allow the military to participate in religious rites. So the junta may well be taking a real risk of revolt in the ranks, if I understand some of the things I read correctly.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2007 19:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Burma. PIMF!
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/28/2007 19:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Though I'm no longer in the AO, I've been there as recently as late June. The Burmese people (and most of the many ethnic groups) are passive by nature but in the past, the Burmese did have a vibrant warrior culture - ask any Thai ! My sense is the reports of deaths are undereported by a factor of 100. Should have more insights in few days. This could get very ugly.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy || 09/28/2007 22:27 Comments || Top||


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Rosie O'Donnell rocks! sez West Bank terrorist Ala Senakreh
Offers a invite to Rosie to come visit the West Bank. Sit for a spell. Have some tea while we enlighten you.

Terrorists to O'Donnell: Hang with Us!

Rosie O'Donnell infamously urged Americans not to fear the terrorists on "The View," no, not Barbara and Elisabeth, the "real" terrorists! Now they want to return the favor by inviting Ro to the Middle East to chill. Jumpin' Jihadi, that's nuts!

"We welcome Rosie O'Donnell to stay among us and to get to know the truth from being here," says one Ala Senakreh, the West Bank Chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terrorist organization, to journalist Aaron Klein, author of "Schmoozing with Terrorists." Aqsa is a Palestinian wackjob outfit that claims to have killed hundreds of Israelis in multiple suicide bombings since 2000.

Ro, of course, made serious waves when she told Elisabeth Hasselbeck and the "View" audience that people shouldn't "fear the terrorists" because they're "mothers and fathers," and has pushed the conspiracy theory that the collapse of WTC 7 was engineered by the government. "When it comes from persons like Rosie, who you say is respected, it takes a more serious significance. I guess she knows what she is saying," says Senakreh.

Yes, we asked Donald Trump for comment, but so far, he hasn't taken this live grenade. And Rosie's rep had a terse response: "Absurd."
Posted by: Delphi || 09/28/2007 12:37 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can she bring her heavily armed bodyguards?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/28/2007 15:48 Comments || Top||

#2  they're "mothers and fathers,"

Taken literally, I suppose so.

As for Rosie, she should be perfectly safe unless the terrorists have elephant guns.
Posted by: gorb || 09/28/2007 19:15 Comments || Top||



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