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2014-02-11 -Land of the Free

Ohio National Guard stages drill fighting fictional "right-wing terrorists"

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Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 School lunches as a biological weapon. I knew it!

Posted by badanov 2014-02-11 00:37|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-02-11 00:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Are the troops truly clueless, or is it just an exercise scenario to please the president and his claque? Because we've got some national guards people here, and they never struck me as unaware of the war they've been fighting.

Posted by trailing wife 2014-02-11 01:36|| 2014-02-11 01:36|| Front Page Top

#3 As an emergency response arm of the State Governors, National Guard units have what used to be referred to as a local or state "Civil Defense mission." I'll go out on a bit of a limb and say few at the federal level ever paid much attention to the State National Guard civil defense mission prior to 9/11.

After 9/11 and with the advent of the Federal Homeland Security, the former Civil Defense role of the National Guard has morphed into a "Civil Support" collaboration with other federal agencies. With the new federal emphasis and mission comes increased visibility, money, equipment, and resources.

Computer modeling and simulation has been around for 20 years or more. These exercises are undoubtedly computer generated, highly sophisticated canned scenarios containing human behavior focused Master Scenario Events Lists [MSEL] as opposed to traditional events such as weather related floods, or natural disaster. The 'take away' for player is the agency interaction, communication, and pecking order, not the neutralization of 'Bubba' the Bible thumping terrorist.

If I had to venture a guess, I would say there was a Federal Agency exercise controller and multiple local, state, and federal law enforcement, Homeland Security, and possibly FEMA players. I would be very surprised if the Governor of Ohio or anyone from his office had knowledge of this event or attended.

Big gov't, federal control, funding, and human behavior focused computer generated events, I doubt any further explanation is required. Did I mention federal control ?

Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-11 03:47|| 2014-02-11 03:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Forty years ago, give or take, the copshop drills usually involved a deranged Vietnam vet.
Turned out I had had a class back in the day from the shrink who advised on one in our state. Called him and asked about it.
Takeaway was that this guy--professor and supposedly knowledgeable about such things--hired for his specific knowledge had never thought about it.
It was so obvious, so much in the air, so many people had done the same thing in drills that it never occurred to him to wonder if it had ever happened in real life. Never wondered, never checked.
Besoeker's info is useful, but it does not address the issue of the choice, from among any number of possiblities. Could have been m....m....martians. Occupy Wall Street types. Muslims. Organized crime willing to stop doing it for a price.
They had a choice and they made it. They picked one group and didn't pick others.
That has to mean something because, as a friend used to say, it can't mean nothing.

Consider the feds got away with Waco and Ruby Ridge because they and a willing msm and chattering class had othered the victims.

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2014-02-11 06:46|| 2014-02-11 06:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe next time they will fight a "left wing extremist" who drones Americans.

Posted by Airandee 2014-02-11 06:47|| 2014-02-11 06:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Besoeker's info is useful, but it does not address the issue of the choice, from among any number of possiblities.

My apologies...addendum follows:

A while back there was a home security system that was featured in teevee adverts. It depicted a mother and young daughter reacting to a burglar breaking into their house. The mother and daughter rushed upstairs to call the home security company, who told them.... "Help Is On The Way."

As the home security system siren went off, the startled burglar bolted from the residence. Do you remember the gender and race of the evil burglar? That's right, he looked like an approaching middle age, Eddie Haskell. He looked that way for a reason.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-11 07:22|| 2014-02-11 07:22|| Front Page Top

#7 That's a weird story! The left-wing goes after their boogey man the right wing. I'm surprised they didn't lump the Tea Party and returning vets into their fictional childish under-the-bed threat. Categorize into "looney."

Posted by JohnQC 2014-02-11 07:43|| 2014-02-11 07:43|| Front Page Top

#8 It is not like left wing terrorists (Alinski?) or members of the Religion of Peace had never killed anyone.

Posted by JFM 2014-02-11 07:44|| 2014-02-11 07:44|| Front Page Top

#9 B.
"As the home security system siren went off, the startled burglar bolted from the residence. Do you remember the gender and race of the evil burglar? That's right, he looked like an approaching middle age, Eddie Haskell. He looked that way for a reason. "

Precisely. There's always a reason. Sometimes you want to appeal to your target market. Advertising is aspirational, usually. See the Budweiser ads. Young adults having a hell of a lot of good, clean fun. Associated with Bud.
Really good-looking people with aristocratic bone structure advertising, say, Lexus.
Young men in sloppy clothes, unshaven and looking as if they haven't washed in a week for pizza to be delivered for the Big Game on television.

As you point out, though, there are all the ones not chosen. PC, for the security system.

So why did the ONG NOT choose the others? PC? Easily offended? The producer of the old Cagney and Lacey show, asked why rich, white businessmen were always the bad guys responded they're the only group which doesn't complain.

All very well, but see othering. Tea Party is racist and violent. Bitter clingers. Gun nuts. Eventually, if ordinary citizens find themselves in trouble with the so-called Law, they'll be in a position to garner as much sympathy as the Branch Davidians did. Which, I submit, is the point.

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2014-02-11 08:10|| 2014-02-11 08:10|| Front Page Top

#10 In an effective psychological operations campaign, themes and slogans matter. The creation of the term 'income inequality' was no accident.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-02-11 08:35|| 2014-02-11 08:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Ohio: National Guard,
and home of Kent State.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-02-11 09:00|| 2014-02-11 09:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Possibly not as simple as it's been described, Skid.

Poke around the tubes.

Posted by Pappy 2014-02-11 10:25|| 2014-02-11 10:25|| Front Page Top

#13 Imagine the outrage if it was the black panthers or environmental terrorists. Desensitizing the guard to the believers in the Constitution is the first step. I'm sure the leadership is telling the troops its no big deal, we had to pick something. But lets play this forward 3 years, Hillary is in office and a bomb goes off at Skidmark's Kent State. Hillary reacts like she did at Bengazi and says it was those radical right wing Tea part vets. And her staff goes on to tell the public to be calm we have been training for the last few years because we knew they were a threat. They go on to begin raids on folks with large amounts of registered weapons in that state, in the name of public safety and the investigation. A number of them fight back and she has effectively turned every conservative that believes in the 2nd amendment into a criminal.
Five years ago the folks here at Rantburg would have laughed me off the site for this, it is still far fetched. But now, blaming it on the right is much less of a reach than blaming the prono on Bengazi. And we know our administration has no remorse for lying to the American people.

"What difference does it make"...

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-02-11 11:01|| 2014-02-11 11:01|| Front Page Top

#14 Do we get to fight back?

Posted by Iblis 2014-02-11 11:01|| 2014-02-11 11:01|| Front Page Top

#15 You don't get to fight back Iblis.
The federal blockade of goods and services around the trouble spot cuts off transport of food and utilities(power/water/sewage). You find yourself living in an armed refugee camp of raiding gangs. It can happen here, consider the situation of the Katrina aftermath, not a lot of happy people.

Posted by Skidmark 2014-02-11 12:25|| 2014-02-11 12:25|| Front Page Top

#16 49Pan.

THis is happening in France. A few months ago a small group of skin heads (three males and two girls) were at a private cloth sale. An all male roup of eight far left want to wait for theml in front of the store, threatening to beat them to a pulp as soon as the skins left the store. Then when the skins required the intervention of the store's security people feigned to dsperse. But it was trick, they jumped on the skins. One of the leftists, a student in one of the more elistis schols in France but also a never do good who had a large ring as a makeshift brass knucle struck one of the skins in the back. The skin, a strong man and son of a construction worker turned around and struck him on the face. the leftits bourgeois fell, hois head hit the ground and he died. No knives, no brass knuckle by the skin head no trampling by the skin, nothing more than hitting back after the other had sneaked behind his back and hit him. Well, socialist governement went amok, dissolved the skin head group (nothing against the self appointed anti-fascist group) , the left press made big covers about the "fascist danger", made a hero from the little treacherous weasel and the skin head has been charged of murder and is still in jail awaiting trial.

Posted by JFM 2014-02-11 12:31|| 2014-02-11 12:31|| Front Page Top

#17 Nah, that could never happen here, JFM.

None of our skinheads speech French.

Posted by Bobby 2014-02-11 13:04|| 2014-02-11 13:04|| Front Page Top

#18 My guess is the drill was written up as an anti-islamic terrorist drill and then a find/replace was used to make sure the PC police didn't come down on them and shut down all training.

Still, they should have made it more obvious, such as Amish bio-terrorists or the Stonecutters or seomthing if that's the case.

Posted by rjschwarz 2014-02-11 14:52|| 2014-02-11 14:52|| Front Page Top

#19 School lunches as a biological weapon. I knew it!

My grandchildren have told me that they're that bad already. My granddaughter says that they must be actually trying to make the food taste like poop (as she says).

Posted by Mullah Richard 2014-02-11 15:10|| 2014-02-11 15:10|| Front Page Top

#20 Not that the Ohio Guard has ever had to deal with real riots in cities (cause 'you know who' would get upset in dealing with recorded facts).

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-02-11 15:32|| 2014-02-11 15:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Maybe the unorganized militia should start holding their own drills.

"Fascist baby sacrificing drug addled reporters attacking schools to find new child sacrifices."

oh wait, they are already doing that.

Posted by Silentbrick 2014-02-11 17:58|| 2014-02-11 17:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Because the strip naked paint yourself blue and yell like maniacs occupy technique was solved 2060 years ago?

I think the real crime here is just how stupid this scenario is. Because they would poison the food with mustard gas (is that possible?) before completing the bio weapons...who writes this shit? Was he sitting there at de-con supervising, pencil in mouth? It accurately predicts an episode of first 24 after a liter of crap vodka.

I mean com'on...all these dudes waddling around in hazmat suits on scba looking for signs of that bastard arch villain who hurt kids and ruined your weekend off and you find...some dude with a mashup of William Wallace and pierce morgan? WTH? If this is the level of creative plot dynamic we can achieve then the terrorists have won and we don't even know it yet. How about the villain be named Kahn? Or some nutjob photo of a woman in drag with dreads and tea bags dangling from her ears? That would be memorable. And how could they tell a bio weapon from what normally occurs in a Junior High? No the only thing this scenario predicts of real life is huge tax payer wasted money allowance, wasted time, and the only thing learned was how to get a grant approved.

(I thought the Red/Blue/Green fight over Ronvadia or whatnot was to not really provoke anyone.)

Posted by swksvolFF 2014-02-11 19:12|| 2014-02-11 19:12|| Front Page Top

#23 Nice little stupid scenario you got there, ONG. There are mobs and there are ooda loops. Good riot police and troops can get into your home grown militias. Not so much with educated and trained guerrilla warfare.

If you know how infrastructure works in this society, you will know that our civilization and its govt are very vulnerable to the threats to stability and continuity by failures of some very critical nodes in our infrastructure, as seen recently in California.

Cities need water, food, electricity, and transportation to function. A loss of, say, potable water to a city would be a huge disaster compared to 9-11. A large city of millions would cease to function after less than a week.

The drill conducted in the story was a bunch of bull$h#t busy work.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-02-11 20:31|| 2014-02-11 20:31|| Front Page Top

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