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2005-11-13 Britain

Al-Qaeda calls Queen an âenemy of Islamâ

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Posted by lotp 2005-11-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 From a post a few weeks ago... isn't there some direct decent from Mohammad in their bloodline from the Spainish side of the family.
Seems Allan might not want his decendent called an enemy.

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-13 00:38|| 2005-11-13 00:38|| Front Page Top

#2 It's the corgi factor. Corgis are Enemies of Islamâ¢. Ev'rybody knows that.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-11-13 00:42|| 2005-11-13 00:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Al-Qaeda calls Queen an âenemy of Islamâ

Fatwa Bottom Girls
You make the rockin'
world go 'round

Posted by Freddy Mercury 2005-11-13 01:43|| 2005-11-13 01:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Most muslims know that the Queen is alleged to be a direct descent of Kind David of Bible times, thus the dislike for her..I guess its the Ishmael VS Jacob game still running

Posted by Sundown 2005-11-13 01:50|| 2005-11-13 01:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Al-Qaeda has threatened the Queen by naming her as âone of the severest enemies of Islamâ in a video message to justify the July bombings in London.

Any excuse will do.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-11-13 04:44|| 2005-11-13 04:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Whilst there is a lot of 'Royal bashing' here and a lot of people think the Monarchy is somewhat outdated or irrelevant (I think they're thinking of Chuck here - what a dolt), I can think of fewer things that would raise the temperature here than if the Queen was assasinated by the Jihadis.

It's thought the IRA had her in their sights at one time, but called it off as the backlash would have been horrific - for them. So they went for Lord Louis Mountbatten, last Viceroy of India (and WWII war hero) and blew him up whilst on his boat (they also killed an 82 year old woman, and two teenage kids - one a local boy helping out as crew).

If the Jihadis kill The Queen, they will have brought a whole world of hurt down on their heads.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-11-13 05:03|| 2005-11-13 05:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Descendent from Muhammad from the Spanish side of its family?

First, the present Spanish dinasty, the Borbons, are from French not Spanish origins.

Second: Whenever Chistians advanced during the Reconquista they repopulated the regained regions with Christians of Northern Spain or of ptehr parts of Europe.

Third: After the Reconquista, Muslims were expelled from Spain. Because they were believed to be unsincere and plotting with the Turks those Muslims who had converted to Christianism were also expelled and only remained the "Old Christians" ie those who had no ancestors tained with Muhamadanism.

In case there is Muhammads blood in the Spanish monarchs it doesn't come from Spain but from the italian or greek princesses the Kings married through history.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-11-13 05:06|| 2005-11-13 05:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Yeap,real good move there.Ya wnna piss off the Brits,well then go ahead and target the Queen Mum.I can picture the Brit military stompin hell out of anybody they think had a hand in it.And the US would be right thier with them.

Posted by raptor 2005-11-13 06:18|| 2005-11-13 06:18|| Front Page Top

#9 I didn't know Al Qaeda and Lyndon LaRouche were allied!

Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow 2005-11-13 07:15|| 2005-11-13 07:15|| Front Page Top

#10 I agree with Fred that Zawahiri is confusing substance with symbols. But in essence that is the Al Quaida way. The destruction of symbols is what 9/11 was all about. When one destroys symbols of power, especially symbols that have lost real value, then the response to those attack will be less than deadly. (In that view, 9/11 was a mistake.) And the destruction of kuffar religous symbols is of great value in the internalized islamist mind when one is promoting a suicide ideology. We may think we are the target of terrorism, but the real target is Islam.

Posted by john">john 2005-11-13 08:10|| 2005-11-13 08:10|| Front Page Top

#11 A senior Whitehall official said: âMI5 is aware that there are some pieces of that video that have not been aired. They are aware of the bit of al- Zawahiri talking about the Queen and they have notified the relevant authorities.â

Why is it that the news media or government always seems to know what's best by deciding what to allow the public to hear. Let the folks hear it all and be able to decide for themselves, instead of being told how to see or understand what's going on here.

Posted by Jan 2005-11-13 08:53|| 2005-11-13 08:53|| Front Page Top

#12 [MSM]
Oh look, how cute! One of the little sheeple people wants to decide for herself. Lol, how quaint! Peasant.
[/MSM]

Sorry, Jan, I couldn't resist. ;-)

Posted by .com 2005-11-13 08:56|| 2005-11-13 08:56|| Front Page Top

#13 You know, it might just be that the British govt didn't air the full video because they didn't want the bad guys to know THAT they had the full thing and HOW they got it - at least not until they had time to follow up on any info / leads it contained.

Happens some times in war, the whole intel/secrets thing.

Posted by lotp 2005-11-13 09:26|| 2005-11-13 09:26|| Front Page Top

#14 You're right. For years I trusted and listened to our MSM.
Only when my son entered into the military, did I find myself not being satisfied, wanting to learn everything about Iraq and Afghanistan and all countries that he may be involved. (I also do guilt well, I should have been doing this way before my son knowing that so many other young men and women have been risking their lives)
It's been a struggle, as I have 2 jobs and don't often have enough time to read it all, but make myself.
The game of catch up has been a real eye opener, and I'm angry for allowing myself to have been swayed as much as I was. I'm sure this is why some of the stupid decisions have/are being made today. I get angry when I see attempts made at continuing to keep folks in the dark and tell them how to think. This is a horrible crime.
Rantburg among other sites that I have found have been helping me to break away from the "herd", and I thank you for that.

Posted by Jan 2005-11-13 09:47|| 2005-11-13 09:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Well put, Jan. Many of us here are converts to the reborn concept of actually defending freedom, either once part of the moonbats-in-training or indifferent. And I'd say all of us agree with your sentiments regarding the MSM - we were all once completely dependent upon them - and led into their agenda-think because of the lack of alternatives. The Internet and news / blog / interactive sites have saved us from the darkness. Saint Fred is one of my True American Heroes.

I'm sorry to hear you have to work so damned hard, but as an ex-80/hrs/week guy I can say it confirms you belong here - and are among friends.
:-)

Posted by .com 2005-11-13 10:10|| 2005-11-13 10:10|| Front Page Top

#16 Just more proof that all lunatics converge on Lyndon LaRouche.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-11-13 10:29|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-11-13 10:29|| Front Page Top

#17 Good for you Jan!

I had my own 'moment' as a result of 9/11 - I think it was the fact that the MSM were systematically editing out the jumpers from history. The Swine.

As a consequence of that, I found LGF and from there many more sites that have not tried to dress up the truth. Of those, RB has the right mix of analysis, local knowledge, smart people, cutting commentary and moments of outright hilarity (thinking of the Crossfire Gazette here) that ensure I'll be coming back for some time to come.

What this place needs is a virtual bar...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-11-13 10:47|| 2005-11-13 10:47|| Front Page Top

#18 Tony, I don't think a virtual Bar will cut it. This place needs a REAL, PHYSICAL bar. And, since we are spread hither and you it will have to be a franchise.

How about it Fred? How about an RB franchise?

Instead of 27 screens of sports shows, we can have a keyboard at every table and all the open threads displayed on large monitors. Add some voice to text capability and mic the whole bar.

8^)

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-11-13 11:12|| 2005-11-13 11:12|| Front Page Top

#19 Hey Jan, Welcome to the club!

I started my 'conversions' in the late 90's when I saw that the Democrats (and their MSM lackeys) were lying through their teeth and started to look at things outside of the media. It was an eye opener...

In any case - Welcome!

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-11-13 11:13|| 2005-11-13 11:13|| Front Page Top

#20 Hard to understand this. Prince "All you need is love" Moonbat loves islam.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2005-11-13 11:30|| 2005-11-13 11:30|| Front Page Top

#21 But may well be ambivalent about Mumsy the Queen.

I mean, the guy has ISSUES, know what I mean?

Posted by anon on this one 2005-11-13 11:42|| 2005-11-13 11:42|| Front Page Top

#22 My thoughts exactly, anymouse. God forbid they actually succeeded-wonder if Charles would offer an imam the opportunity to give the eulogy.

Posted by jules 2 2005-11-13 12:15|| 2005-11-13 12:15|| Front Page Top

#23 So Tony - visit the O'club

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-13 13:05|| 2005-11-13 13:05|| Front Page Top

#24 mouse, Not hard to understand at all. If mom were gone, Prince "all you need is love" moonbat would be King "all you need is love" moonbat. They think he'd thank them. It's the muzzy way.

Posted by Throgum Elmoluse7582 2005-11-13 13:07|| 2005-11-13 13:07|| Front Page Top

#25 he's got the headwear down already, and a wife that needs a veil

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-13 13:49|| 2005-11-13 13:49|| Front Page Top

#26 Yeap,real good move there.Ya wnna piss off the Brits,well then go ahead and target the Queen Mum.

Nitpick: The Queen Mother died a few years back.

However, her and Elizabeth lived through a time of dire trials for Britain. They did so with a far greater degree of dignity and sense of honor than the current crop of royals will probably ever be able to summon forth in their collective lifetimes (with, perhaps, the exception of Prince Edward).

While not much more than a figurehead, many Britons still hold the Queen in high regard and her murder would incite a no-holds-barred repayment in spades against the entire British Islamic community. Again, this sort of mass turning upon Muslims is presicely what al Qaeda desires. I can only wonder when those Muslims who wish to live in peace will figure this out and more vocally distance themselves from these cutthroat b@stards.

Hard to understand this. Prince "All you need is love" Moonbat loves islam.

While it is difficult to credit al Qaeda with an overly large degree of vision, this one reason stands tall above any other possibilities. Charles has inasmuch kissed Islam's posterior and could not be hoped to be anything more than a complete pushover should his mum take the dirt nap.

he's got ... a wife that needs a veil

Now that was just plain dirty, nasty, rotten and mean, Frank. It was also one of the most frickin' hilarious things I've read here all week, but we shan't go there, shall we?

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-13 14:19|| 2005-11-13 14:19|| Front Page Top

#27 my bad.... :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-13 14:23|| 2005-11-13 14:23|| Front Page Top

#28 Any truth to the report that Prince Kotex really converted to Islam? Could the al Qadiacs believe it?

/tifoil_hat_off

Posted by SR-71 2005-11-13 14:30|| 2005-11-13 14:30|| Front Page Top

#29 Admittedly, I lived in England 20 years ago, and my knowledge may be dated, but one thing you DIDN'T do was criticize the Queen. Her children were another matter, especially Charles, who is witless. I think the Muzzies may have made the gravest mistake they've EVER made if they do try to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II. Frankly, I admire and respect her - far more than I do any of her children. So do most of the English I know.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2005-11-13 14:39|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2005-11-13 14:39|| Front Page Top

#30 Aiman has been talking to La Roche again.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-11-13 15:12|| 2005-11-13 15:12|| Front Page Top

#31 No problem,Zen.I figured all of Britian's Queens were considered the Queen Mum,because,well because she's the Queen.
I don't remember exactlly how I found RB,I hadn't had a pc very long and was still exploring.I can tell you this,though,out of all the Blogs I've checked-out RB is the best I've yet to find.It has the right mix of of snark,humor,angst,and down right informative expertise around(with just the right amount of troll droppings for leavining).Another thing is,sites like LGF have so many commentators that individual voices get lost in the crowd.

Posted by raptor 2005-11-13 15:17|| 2005-11-13 15:17|| Front Page Top

#32 I can tell you this,though,out of all the Blogs I've checked-out RB is the best I've yet to find.It has the right mix of of snark,humor,angst,and down right informative expertise around(with just the right amount of troll droppings for leavining).

Queen Mum or no, yer spot on there, raptor.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-13 15:28|| 2005-11-13 15:28|| Front Page Top

#33 If the Queen Mum were alive today, she would have something to say about Zawa. She was a class act, esp during the bombing of London in WW2.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-11-13 15:31|| 2005-11-13 15:31|| Front Page Top

#34 That the Queen Mother and Elizabeth endured the blitz in London when they could just as easily have retired to Balmoral for the duration has rightfully earned them the esteem they've enjoyed. How many from the current crop of Royals could be relied upon for such leadership?

[crickets]

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-13 15:41|| 2005-11-13 15:41|| Front Page Top

#35 Andrew and Edward, I'd wager

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-13 15:56|| 2005-11-13 15:56|| Front Page Top

#36 Frank, thank you for mentioning Andrew. I inadvertently neglected to mention him in my previous comments. If ever there was a living argument against primogeniture hierarchy, Prince Charles is it.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-13 16:05|| 2005-11-13 16:05|| Front Page Top

#37 ~~God~~ Allah save the queen.

Posted by Captain America 2005-11-13 18:12|| 2005-11-13 18:12|| Front Page Top

#38 Fraaaannnk - naughty! (Camilla is apparently a luverly lady!)

I tried to post earlier on about the Queen Mum (1900 - 2002), but RB barfed it. Oh well. A superb woman who spent most of her life serving her country, as has her daughter, QEII.

Point is, Chuck is a pratt - noone respects him, Edward has had too much time 'treading the boards (luvvy)' and was largely responsible for the friggin' awful "it's a royal knockout" almost 20 years ago that helped to nosedive the approval ratings for the Monarchy. Andrew is a dude, who's actually fought in a war (Falklands - 1982), but is totally associated with 'Fergy' and (the much more foxy) Koo Stark, which effectively bars him from having a major role in public life.

I wouldn't be surprised if The Queen completely misses Chuck in terms of succession and goes straight to William, particularly if the rumours about Chuck being a closet-Islamic are true.

By the way, the British Royal Family can be utterly ruthless when necessary. They have to be, the Armed Forces swear an oath of allegiance to The Queen, not the state...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-11-13 18:46|| 2005-11-13 18:46|| Front Page Top

#39 I figure Camilla is really a really ugly transvestite, and it's really a secret gay marriage. Once Liz kick off, Chuck takes the crown, outs himself and Camilla (as Cameron)and has the Bishop of Canturbury sanctify the marriage.

Of course I believe in little green men, the tooth fairy and honest democrats.

:)

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2005-11-13 19:15|| 2005-11-13 19:15|| Front Page Top

#40 #29: Admittedly, I lived in England 20 years ago, and my knowledge may be dated, but one thing you DIDN'T do was criticize the Queen. Her children were another matter, especially Charles, who is witless. I think the Muzzies may have made the gravest mistake they've EVER made if they do try to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II. Frankly, I admire and respect her - far more than I do any of her children. So do most of the English I know.
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Whahahha, say it isn't so.

Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-13 19:16|| 2005-11-13 19:16|| Front Page Top

#41 Can I be an Enemy of Islam, too? Maybe we could form a club.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-11-13 19:51|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-11-13 19:51|| Front Page Top

#42 Koo Stark - Saw her in a porno or two. Not too bad but she didn't age real well.

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-13 20:28|| 2005-11-13 20:28|| Front Page Top

#43 Foo do.

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