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2004-03-23 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Mike 2004-03-23 7:10:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Actually the priest can refuse to give the Holy Sacrament if he knows the recipient is not in good standing. i.e. divorced......etc.HE's proably a DIm too.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-3-23 8:28:24 AM|| 2004-3-23 8:28:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 If kerry wants me to take his claim of faith seriously, he needs to take his faith a little more seriously

The only thing Kerry takes seriously is himself.

I've always been amazed at how you can usually find the nastiest, most hypocritical people in the first 2 rows of pews.

Posted by JerseyMike 2004-3-23 8:30:09 AM|| 2004-3-23 8:30:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hehehe... you can always tell a real christian meeting..... the best seats are empty :).

What an ass. I wish the media would cover these things like it should. Show what an arrogant ass Mr . Kerry really is.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-3-23 9:26:09 AM|| 2004-3-23 9:26:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 More from the article:
Under church law, Kerry's very public support of abortion disqualifies him from the sacraments. He is not known to be a regular Mass attendee. In fact, some Roman Catholics in Boston have in the past pressed for the bishops there to excommunicate Kerry for his refusal to accept Catholic doctrine and canon law.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-3-23 9:31:24 AM|| 2004-3-23 9:31:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Using the church as a media op is weak. I know a lot of politicians do it on both sides of the aisle - still weak. Go to church because it's what you do, not because it's popular to do. This reminds me of the dems during the NH primary all going to baptist churches arriving late, taking off early and not having the decency to pay proper respect to the clergy or the congregation.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-3-23 9:47:03 AM|| 2004-3-23 9:47:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Huh??? I thought Kerry said he was Jewish??!!?

Posted by snellenr 2004-3-23 10:00:54 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:00:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 And Black. And anything else you might want him to be.

Posted by .com 2004-3-23 10:02:36 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:02:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 It'll be interesting to see what the red hats' reaction is to this. But they don't have many divisions, so it shouldn't be aproblem.

When the first JFK ran, the great fear among evangelical protestants was that a "good" Catholic would be taking orders from the Pope. Now with JFK II running the fear amongst them is that he will do nothing in accordance with church teachings.

Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-3-23 10:40:22 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:40:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 How many potential votes in the Islamic bloc,.com?
Imagine! The world's first Muslim-Jew.

Posted by GK 2004-3-23 10:43:55 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:43:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 GK - Lol! Since the Qu'uran actually tells them not to participate (makes them unclean to play infidel reindeer games, I guess) there shouldn't BE any Islamic voting block!

"The world's first Muslim-Jew."
And Black, too! Reminds me of the SatireWire's bit on the HinJews! Hmm, would it be MusJews or JewLims? Top billing would be pretty touchy, ya think?

Posted by .com 2004-3-23 10:49:19 AM|| 2004-3-23 10:49:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Sorry for invoking his name, but Clinton recieved the eucharist too. Anyone remember that?

Posted by Rawsnacks 2004-3-23 11:34:24 AM|| 2004-3-23 11:34:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 So Kerry is Jewish and Black? Is he Sammy Davis Jr? FYI Priest don't normally check to see if you are in good standing and I have to bet that they cleared this 'event' with he priest before he showed up. As for what he was wearing.... It's not a fashion show and I am glad because I would lose every Sunday. I do dress up (shirt/tie) on holy days of obligation, but it's ususally casual dress for my clan on Sunday.

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-3-23 11:56:47 AM|| 2004-3-23 11:56:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Cyber Sarge, I'm not one for getting all dressed up for church (I'm a catholic in the south BTW), but he showed up dressed to go snowboarding. I can just imagine him going svwisssh-svwiisshh down the aisle to his seat. Egads. What an ass.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-3-23 12:32:31 PM|| 2004-3-23 12:32:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Cyber Sarge: it's not so much about what he was wearing--it's about what he was doing, and thinking, and being. In his case, what he was wearing simply revealed his flip attitude--heck, he had to go skiing right afterwards (another media-op)--no time to change! "Besides, who cares? This religious stuff is just to get me some votes, heh, heh. "

I'm not Catholic, but I think what Kerry did was sick. It would different if he went to church there all the time--if it was his home church, if he was committed to what he was "professing," if he wasn't desecrating their holy things through his own self-worship.

So he got his media-op. Goody gumdrops. Why is it I don't think the Almightly was impressed . . .

Posted by ex-lib 2004-3-23 12:39:19 PM|| 2004-3-23 12:39:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Ok now. I must confess that one Sunday my family was clad in snow pants because we were heading to the snow after mass. Yes we 'swished' when we walked but we did take time to go. No I don't think Kerry is a perfect Catholic but neither am I. My blood boils when the left dissects every litle detail about Bush (hair, Dress, manners, etc.) and I am not about to get caught up in that. Senator Kerry went to mass, end of story. Did he do it for political gain? Probably, but lets not get caught up in the minor details (heck he might even have an epiphany one of these Sundays)!

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-3-23 2:11:09 PM|| 2004-3-23 2:11:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 John-Pierre's gonna be our first plaid president?

Posted by Fred 2004-3-23 2:16:34 PM|| 2004-3-23 2:16:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Cyber Sarge: Yeah, but you're an average American. It isn't the first time you've set foot inside a church during the last decade. And plenty of people go to church in regular clothes. Why not? Jesus wouldn't condemn them. But Kerry is running for leader of the free world. That should be the "epiphany" right there! Besides, people aren't complaining about him going to church, per se. They just don't like it when politicians all of sudden become "spiritual" during an election year and try to use church as a political plank in their platform. Bill used to do it all the time. Same reason he got a dog--to try to appeal to American voters. If Kerry ventures into a church now and again, sure, maye he'll get something out of it. One would hope so. I really mean that. My hope is that he would have a true change of heart. But it's just so obvious what he's doing and that his motives are questionable, that one should expect people to complain. Jarhead's comment #5 sums up the sentiment.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-3-23 2:51:35 PM|| 2004-3-23 2:51:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 I am a Catholic, a pre-Vatican II Jesuit-educated one. Kerry better carefully pick where he goes to Mass, because in some places he might get stiffed as he stands there with his hand or tongue out. Recent directives from the Bishops make clear the responsibilities of Catholic politicians who wish to parade themselves as such. There are so many reasons for this man to be horse-whipped that I don't know where to start!

Posted by Sgt.DT 2004-3-23 3:08:01 PM|| 2004-3-23 3:08:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Not only has Lurch taken a public position for abortion many times, which is anathema to Catholics, but when he divorced his current wife to marry Theresa Heinz, Theresa made him get an annulment, thus making his children by Wife#1 "illegitimate" in the eyes of the Church.
Word on the street was that Tom Daschle's bishop was going to excommunicate him for being pro-abortion in the Senate also.
It's one thing to be a faithful Catholic, but if you're going to Mass because you're after the Catholic vote...well, I just hope that Satan is putting some more briquets on the barbie!

Posted by Jen 2004-3-23 3:16:11 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-3-23 3:16:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Sarge:

I agree with Brother Ex above--the insult is not that Kerry went to Mass, it's that he went to Mass for a photo op, insisted on special treatment ("DYKWIA!"), and then had the added discourtesy to show up late--at about 11 minutes in, that would mean he's interrupting the First Reading or the Responsorial Psalm, distracting everyone's attention away from the Word with his hey-look-at-me! entrance.

No class.

Posted by Mike 2004-3-23 3:21:58 PM|| 2004-3-23 3:21:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Mike, maybe Lurch can try that "DYKWIA" thing with the Almighty...

Posted by Jen 2004-3-23 3:27:32 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-3-23 3:27:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Ok I surrender! He was disrespectful to show up late. And to bring the press along was an added insult. Like Ex-Lib I really TRUELy hope Senator Kerry listened to the reading last Sunday. It was about the Prodigal Sons return to his Father. Prophetic aint it!

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-3-23 3:29:44 PM|| 2004-3-23 3:29:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 You write:
"John Kerry stages a "media op" at Mass
"The Prowler" in The American Spectator.
Hat tip: Relapsed Catholic.
So much for Kerry Catholicism."
Whom you are fooling, you imbecile!
He is not Kerry, he is Kohn, Jew originating from Czechoslovakia and dual citizen.
You, people of JSA are abnormally superficial.
That is why your masters fool you any way they want!
Now tell me that "Old Style" is beer and
"Morgen Dabid" is wine!

Posted by David Diamond 2004-3-23 4:29:13 PM|| [www.yahoo.com] 2004-3-23 4:29:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 No matter who he is, Lurch is a bad Catholic and would make an even worse Jew.
Good to see that David's tin foil keffiyah is screwed on tight!

Posted by Jen 2004-3-23 4:34:29 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-3-23 4:34:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 JSA? Who-dat?

Posted by Mike 2004-3-23 4:52:03 PM|| 2004-3-23 4:52:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Jewish Superheros of America?

Posted by phil_b 2004-3-23 5:44:10 PM|| 2004-3-23 5:44:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Damn! Who was that masked man?

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-3-23 6:01:51 PM|| 2004-3-23 6:01:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 His annulment means that he's okay receiving the Eucharist vis a vis the divorce issue. While the Bishop or the priest serving the Mass can deny him the Eucharist if they wish because of his political views, I don't know of too many who would.

Steve (Catholic but not very good at being one)

Posted by Steve White 2004-3-23 6:57:40 PM|| 2004-3-23 6:57:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Steve, yeah, sure, he's okay (maybe), but what about his first wife and their children, whose conception was changed into one of "sin?"
The whole marriage was annulled and that included the "blessed state" of the children they conceived.
And all of this laxity about divorcÃ©s being able to remain in a state of Grace didn't exist in the Catholic Church (or even the Episcopal) until the 1980's...or 1970's at the soonest.
Check your Bible--and I'm divorced myself, so I'm not pointing any fingers at that.
Kerry should be excommunicated for his stand on abortion alone.
I know the Church still thinks that abortion is murder.

Posted by Jen 2004-3-23 7:04:45 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-3-23 7:04:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 You mean... he's a PHONY!
Oh, God! Say it isn't SO!

Posted by tu3031 2004-3-23 11:40:45 PM|| 2004-3-23 11:40:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 I speculate that he has not made time to see the Passion quite yet. Maybe he is actually pretty reverent but the results of the focus group came back and his handlers told him that America wants a slouching Christian as a counterpoint to GWB's piousness.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-3-23 11:56:13 PM|| 2004-3-23 11:56:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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