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2004-03-23 Europe

Spainâs Churchill Speaks Out; Nevilleâs Not Listening

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Posted by Barbara Skolaut bskolaut@hotmail.com 2004-03-23 4:57:00 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "I think history will show Aznar to be Spainâs modern-day Churchill (if you donât know why, you donât know much about pre-WWII European history)."

No way. The Spanish are cowards at heart, the British aren't. When the sh-t hits the fan the British fight to the death, the Spanish and the vast majority of the rest of Europe have a history of folding in a week.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-23 9:37:58 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-23 9:37:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Damn_Proud_American: Read about Churchill's unheeded warnings all through the 1930's. I agree that the British are great fighters, but they, like the Spanish today, turned a blind eye to the rising danger of Hitler and embraced appeasement. (Does Neville Chamberlain ring a bell?)

As Churchill said to Chamberlain: "You had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor. You shall have war." (May not be an exact quote, but close enough.)

That's what Aznar is saying to Yappy Zappy and the Spanish people. They've chosen appeasement (and therefore dishonor), but they'll still have war. And that's why I think history will consider him another (1930's, anyway) Churchill.

When the war comes, if the Spanish are smart, they'll call on Aznar to lead them again. But I'm not making any bets.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-3-23 9:53:24 PM|| 2004-3-23 9:53:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "Bet ETAâs watching and learning."
I think this is dead right. It was the scale that they'd been screwing up. No matter what AlQ officially does, henceforth ETA can threaten by simply saying they are collaborating with them - and that will be good enough, I'll wager. Sans backbone, the Spanish are targets. When the asshats find a hardened target, they wise up and move on. Someday I hope they'll backtrack on the election swing, but they've dug a hole now - and they have to face the tough step of reversing the error. They will be tested by boomers again either way. One way leads out of the hole - and the other leads to dhimmitude.

Posted by .com 2004-3-23 10:04:27 PM|| 2004-3-23 10:04:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Barbara, that's exactly my point. When the war came to them the rest of Europe folded in WW2. The British never surrendered.

That's why I said when the sh-t hits the fan. They tried to avoid war (our good friend Neville) up until it was impossible to avoid. Then the rest of Europe virtually gave up without a fight but the British were going to fight until the death. Could you ever imagine the nazi's occupying England, like they did the rest of Europe? Every british citizen would be fighting them day and night. The rest of Europe are cowards.

Aznar may be a weak version of Churchill but the Spanish don't have 1/10th the heart the british do. Even if they had a Churchill the Spanish would cower and appease, he would be ignored.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-3-23 10:31:26 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-3-23 10:31:26 PM|| Front Page Top

Even if they had a Churchill the Spanish would cower and appease, he would be ignored.

On that, we unfortunately agree completely.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-03-24 6:50:57 PM|| 2004-03-24 6:50:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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