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2004-09-11 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Fred 2004-09-11 12:44:19 AM|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 By whatever fluke, Israel delays in destroying the Iranian nuclear threat, the question won't be; will they test their first detonation yield above ground or below? But how hard Sharon's shorts hit the ground with the load it's carrying!!

Posted by smn 2004-09-11 12:55:32 AM|| 2004-09-11 12:55:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Mushroom season coming.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-09-11 2:27:18 AM|| 2004-09-11 2:27:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 smn - You certainly have an unhealty fascination with the contents of other people's shorts. I think we should define smn as Skid Mark Nitwit. Now fuck off.

Posted by .com 2004-09-11 2:46:00 AM|| 2004-09-11 2:46:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 i tried to find a spot where I could be a suicide bomb for the Isralies an they said no,go figure, if i had volutnterd for for the Paleo I think they woulda agrreed
lol

Posted by SCpatriot 2004-09-11 3:24:51 AM|| 2004-09-11 3:24:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Boris the Wonder Troll TROLL 2004-09-11 10:23:44 AM|| 2004-09-11 10:23:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 1. France, Britain and Germany have toughened their stance on Iranâs nuclear programme

2. ...it would probably be reported to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions

BWAAAAAAAHHAaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaa
Multilateralism defined
More groveling from the useless limpdicks

Posted by Crikey 2004-09-11 2:20:04 PM|| 2004-09-11 2:20:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 boys, oh boys...
Economic sanctions indeed !!
The mullahs are playing dilly dally games with the Euroshitheads. Bush is trying to get reelected and does not have time to deal with trifles like an Iranian nuke or two (around July 2005)....
I can tell you one thing, I hope we get to them first, but if we don't and someone nukes in Tel Aviv, the rest of the middle east is going to have a lot of glowing new craters soon !

have you read the bible ???

Remember Samson ???

If the western world leaves us alone to face the fucking arabs, dont cry when warheads start flying around...
Believe me we will use nuclear weapons because they were precisely meant to be used in a situation where everybody plays ostrich and we get zapped with a blow that jeopardizes our national survival.
I hope I would never have to face such a situation
but all signs are pointing in this way.
Have a nice day everybody

Posted by Elder of zion 2004-09-11 4:13:43 PM|| 2004-09-11 4:13:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Relax, Elder. Bush can take out those facilities anytime between now and mid-January. It's just politically safer after our November 2 election. Bush is Commander-In-Chief for two and a half months after the election, even if John Fraud Kerry wins. I expect to see mushroom clouds over Iranian nuclear and military facilities well before the middle of next year. I just hope some of the "clerics" are visiting them at the time. And maybe a few mushroom clouds will make North Korea willing to bargain. Beats nuking Kimmie so close to Seoul.

Posted by Tom 2004-09-11 5:11:37 PM|| 2004-09-11 5:11:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I can tell you one thing, I hope we get to them first, but if we don't and someone nukes in Tel Aviv, the rest of the middle east is going to have a lot of glowing new craters soon !

Which is as it should be, although perish the thought that such a thing might happen.

Europe's ostrich-like stance is simply indefensible. Iran represents a clear and present danger that extends well beyond Israel. Any American dithering over how it is hypocritical to deny Iran nuclear weapons while Israel possesses them is a steaming heap of 100% pure USDA inspected ranch style horseshit.

Israel does not have the declared goal of annihilating any other Middle Eastern nation. Iran has repeatedly avowed their intent to destroy Israel. This single and staggeringly obvious difference is what justifies bombing the living crap out of every last nuclear facility within Iran's borders.

Europe routinely has financed Israel's enemies, and richly deserves the danger it has bred up. America's inability to clearly delineate and act upon Iran's role in "the axis of evil" is morally reprehensible. I'm sick to death of Iran's mullahs being swaddled in the robes of ostensible religious significance when they are nothing more than a bunch of power-mad thugs out to eliminate a tiny nation which has consistently disgraced them for their lack of freedom, functional industry or military prowess.

The mullahs seek to displace all blame for their own shortcomings upon Israel at the risk of immolating the entire Middle East region. Should Israel take even a single nuclear hit, I would not blame them for then reducing all other Arab nations to glowing rubble. Such would be the just and fitting reward for centuries of Islamic intransigence and genocide. Pakistan, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Lybia and the Palestinian Territories would be reduced to smoking ruins, all because they too cheered Iran on in their insane vendetta against Israel.

How none of these other Arab countries realize the enormous collective risk they are taking by not applying pressure upon Iran to curb their nuclear obsession goes beyond me. If a devastated Israel does lash out and annihilate all of these despicable anti-Semetic tyrants, I shall not shed a single tear save for the Jews.

Posted by Zenster 2004-09-11 5:39:38 PM|| 2004-09-11 5:39:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 #8 I expect to see mushroom clouds over Iranian nuclear and military facilities well before the middle of next year.

Tom, using nuclear weapons to destroy Iran's weapons program would be absurd. Such an imprudent act would automatically invite a terorist nuclear attack against the United States. We can accomplish the exact same ends using conventional weaponry. I'd toss in a few daisy cutters to suck the lungs out of every facility's entire staff, but that's just me. The first strike use of nuclear weapons against Iran would be like hunting rabbits with a Howitzer.

Posted by Zenster 2004-09-11 5:48:27 PM|| 2004-09-11 5:48:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Zenster, I disagree. There are large facilities that need to be wiped out beyond all recognition - suddenly, simultaneously, and without warning. Iran must lose the ability for military retaliation (e.g., attacks on oil fields in neighboring countries and such). And when we're done, the whole world needs to be very afraid of us.

What makes you think that a conventional attack wouldn't invite a terrorist nuclear attack? If the terrorists have a nuke, they're going to use it the first chance they get, no matter what we do from this point forward. They'd be stupid not to use it right away and risk losing it. And the Iranian leadership has pretty much already said that it would nuke us if it could.

Our ace in the hole is that we have plenty of nukes to spare. They won't respect us. Let them fear us. Motivate the Middle Eastern totalitarians to crack down on their islamofanatics.

Posted by Tom 2004-09-11 8:22:06 PM|| 2004-09-11 8:22:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 We have already fought one nuclear war. If the Iranians and NK's want to play that game so be it.

Every year we pay billions for nuclear deterence - missilies, subs... It may be time to put the deterence to work. Better over there than here.

Posted by JP 2004-09-11 10:04:56 PM|| 2004-09-11 10:04:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 As far as I know Arabs have had a lot of fighting with Israel but never Iran. Why are the fucking mullahs there getting nukes. Hopefully if we can persuade one of the Arabs to attack Iran they will use it against them
Kill two birds with one stone

Posted by Fawad 2004-09-11 10:22:48 PM|| 2004-09-11 10:22:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Taking out the Bushehr reactor and related facilities will take out their potential plutonium production capabilities. So unless they get some plut from someone else, they will not be able to arm their missiles with Nukes.

The toughter nut to crack is how to take out the U235 concentration facilities, which are deep underground. Taking out their electrical generation capability wil cripple them but not stop them. Attacking underground processing plants may require nukes or boots on the ground.

Same thing goes for the Norks. Everything there is deep underground.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-09-11 11:28:52 PM|| 2004-09-11 11:28:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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