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2004-09-11 Iraq-Jordan

The Truth About Our Soldiers: Abuses at Abu Ghraib weren't typical

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Posted by Steve White 2004-09-11 4:03:11 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Such excesses may have resulted from confusion as to what was permissible.

You mean as to what was human.

Some have seized upon the photos to suggest that torture was condoned. That is simply wrong. The actions of the night shift on Tier 1 were an aberration. The members were off on their own. As one participant admitted: "We did it for the fun of it."

Oh, I see. It is of no importance that the torture happened, because there was no policy encouraging abuse. Never mind the directly issued, then denied, commands.
Because there is no proof of them.

But to date, we have identified some 300 cases of possible abuse, of which fewer than 100 have been confirmed, and a third of those have been at the point of capture. In combat, passions run high.

Of course it is alright that the troops abuse the captives.
They only stormed into thier city, broke into thier homes, and detained them for no reason whatsoever. They should be excused if they caused any damage, because their passions, not the captives', were running high. It is not like they did anything wrong.

Posted by Gentle 2004-09-12 8:33:49 AM|| 2004-09-12 8:33:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Gentle, where you been? Studying?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-09-12 8:37:28 AM|| 2004-09-12 8:37:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Kinda ^_^

Posted by Gentle 2004-09-12 8:39:09 AM|| 2004-09-12 8:39:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, you've been missed, what with the anniversary and all. Lot's of articles about how Islam is going mainstream and we need to be reconciled, that sort of thing. Stop in.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-09-12 12:31:06 PM|| 2004-09-12 12:31:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 hey! How about those Joooos in Beslan, Gentle? Acting like they were Islamists and all....any thoughts?

at all?

ever?

Posted by Frank G 2004-09-12 12:36:56 PM|| 2004-09-12 12:36:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Of course it is alright that the troops abuse the captives. They only stormed into thier city, broke into thier homes, and detained them for no reason whatsoever. They should be excused if they caused any damage, because their passions, not the captives', were running high. It is not like they did anything wrong.

My main concern is for the safety and well being of American troops no matter where they are, and that includes civilian contractors and our spooks. If you can't wrap your head around that concept, then that is just too bad.

As for the prisoners abused at Ghraib: it sucks to be them.

Posted by badanov 2004-09-12 12:37:19 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-09-12 12:37:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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