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2005-12-22 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Bobby 2005-12-22 14:26|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Few things are more amusing than a journalist preaching the gospel of MYOB.

Posted by BH 2005-12-22 15:47|| 2005-12-22 15:47|| Front Page Top

#2 For the rad left, since history started in 2001, that makes them 4 years old and therefore not adults for contracts, voting, etc. to include consideration of their views.

Posted by Glailing Ulusing4418 2005-12-22 16:29|| 2005-12-22 16:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Verdict: Wrong

Until the day that members of the DC Examiner editorial board are turned into court justices, they'll have to excuse me for taking their opinions lightly.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-22 16:59|| 2005-12-22 16:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I have two thoughts about this: First off I doubt that this is illegal the way it was conducted. The President got the OK fro the AG and briefed Congress, so I am pretty sure he followed that part of the law. Hard to accuse someone of being secretive when they are briefing the opposition. Second if it turns out to be illegal on some grounds Congress should take IMMEDIATE steps to make it legal to conduct spying of this nature in case of a national emergency. I would add that if he hadnât done this after 9/11 he should have been removed for incompetence. P.S FUCK PELOSI, BOXER, REID, and I thank God that they are not the party in power or President Gore/Kerry would be signing a peace (surrender) treaty with Bin Laden by now.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-12-22 17:10|| 2005-12-22 17:10|| Front Page Top

#5 The story about bin Laden "turning off his sat phone" after reading about it in the papers (btw, the Washington Times) has been pretty widely discredited as an urban myth. The same information had been reported several times before the Times printed it, and he didn't stop using the phone at that time- it was a couple of years later after the near-miss cruise missile strike on the training camp (the "hitting a couple of donkeys in the ass" strike) that got his attention.

And FWIW, calling a briefing of 8 out of 535 members of Congress, forbidding them to discuss with staff or other members, and ignoring any objections "briefing Congress" is a bit of a stretch.

The letter from DoJ the NRO printed makes a decent case that this was authorized by a combination of the AUMF and inherent Article II powers, at least for the short term. But they would have been smarter to get some legislation to fix whatever made it impossible to run this through FISA. I doubt they would have had much trouble getting it added to the original Patriot Act.

Posted by Huperetch Ulereper5813 2005-12-22 17:32|| 2005-12-22 17:32|| Front Page Top

#6 And FWIW, calling a briefing of 8 out of 535 members of Congress, forbidding them to discuss with staff or other members, and ignoring any objections "briefing Congress" is a bit of a stretch.

The alternative would have been to tell ALL of Congress, virtually letting the cat out of the bag almost from the get-go.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-22 20:32|| 2005-12-22 20:32|| Front Page Top

#7 In reference to Comment #5, as long as those 8 members are the heads of the oversight committees, then Congress has been notified - as defined by law.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2005-12-22 22:54|| 2005-12-22 22:54|| Front Page Top

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