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2006-02-27 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Askariyah bombing may throw monkey wrench into Iran's plans

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-02-27 03:20|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "The complex also contains the shrine of the 12th imam, Mohammed al-Mahdi, who is said to have gone into hiding through a cellar in the complex in 878, and is expected to return on Judgment Day."

Oh, no wonder it is taking 1128 years to find the 12th imam. He is hiding in or around the cellar. Who would think to look there?

Posted by Ol Dirty American 2006-02-27 06:36|| 2006-02-27 06:36|| Front Page Top

#2 I ordered the [Imam] al-Mehdi Army to protect the Shi'ite and Sunni shrines and to show a high sense of responsibility, something they actually did."

You surprised they actually did something you 'ordered', Tater, or that they did something useful?

Posted by Bobby 2006-02-27 07:18|| 2006-02-27 07:18|| Front Page Top

#3 The complex also contains the shrine of the 12th imam, Mohammed al-Mahdi, who is said to have gone into hiding through a cellar in the complex in 878, and is expected to return on Judgment Day.
Voo-Doo !
I tell ya, this religion begs to be outlawed in a modern, civil society. When will the masses awaken ? When we have daytime shows like "Beheading for Dollars" ?

Posted by wxjames 2006-02-27 07:46|| 2006-02-27 07:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Or perhaps, as others have suggested, the attack on the shrine was a carefully orchestrated strike by Iran.

Posted by doc 2006-02-27 08:03|| 2006-02-27 08:03|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm thinking the 12th Imam emerged from the cellar wearing one of those turban bombs that you see in Viking cartoons and just popped his cork prematurely.

Posted by Darrell 2006-02-27 08:54|| 2006-02-27 08:54|| Front Page Top

#6 Doc, donuts to dollars that is the case. Whatever Iran leadership does, needs to be seen through the prism of their idea of hastening mahdi return. Strife and mayhem's good, in their view, and if they can pitch sunni vs shia, they would do whatever's necessary to make it happen.

Posted by twobyfour 2006-02-27 09:15|| 2006-02-27 09:15|| Front Page Top

#7 I suspect this article may be on to something. Tater boy is nothing if not a stooge for Iran. Since the demo job, he has been frantically trying to make peace.

Now, if I was of a suspicious character, it would almost seem that this mosque job very conveniently screwed up a major mischief campaign from Iran.

And thus, efforts at peace would be an attempt to salvage their operation.

Finally, damage to the mosque was both expertly orchestrated and essentially cosmetic. Hmmm.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-02-27 10:19|| 2006-02-27 10:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Is this where the tradition of the ......"twelve iMan" came from ......??

Posted by Claviger Spoger9494 2006-02-27 10:35|| 2006-02-27 10:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Also the pilgrim biz is down a bit in Qom, I bet...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-02-27 10:58|| 2006-02-27 10:58|| Front Page Top

#10 The potentially bloody polarization in the Shi'ite-Sunni world now threatens to unravel the links that have been established between Shi'ite-dominated Iran and radical Sunni groups from Afghanistan and elsewhere.

The shrine bombing reeks of Zarqawi's handiwork. Civil war best suits al Qaeda's interests. Nice to see that Iran's sheltering of these scumbags has come back to bite them on the bum in a big way.

Two of the 12 Shi'ite imams - Imam Ali al-Hadi, who died in AD 868, and his son, Imam Hasan al-Askari, who died in 874 - are buried at the mosque. The complex also contains the shrine of the 12th imam, Mohammed al-Mahdi, who is said to have gone into hiding through a cellar in the complex in 878, and is expected to return on Judgment Day.

And this celler is connected to that well over in Qom into which copies of the koran are being hefted. Makes perfect sense ... if you're Islamic.

Nevertheless, the sanctity of the tombs is of equal importance to Sunnis. Like the tombs of the Prophet Mohammed, Imam Ali and Imam Hussain, no self-respecting Muslim, whether Shi'ite or Sunni, would ever think of attacking such a place.

"[N]o self-respecting Muslim", sort of gets straight to the heart of it. When you "submit" to the absolute authority and whim of a theocratic hierarchy, you tend to abandon self-respect at the door. This promotes all sorts of outrages, not just on the infidels either, much to Islam's surprise.

I tell ya, this religion begs to be outlawed in a modern, civil society.

You know what, wxjames? I came to that same conclusion this weekend. The Vatican is on the right track by demanding reciprocity with respect to freedom of religious practice in Islamic dominated countries.

I'll be submitting an opinion piece on this strategy in another day or so:

Islam should be temporarily banned in all countries that practice freedom of religion until Islamic dominated countries grant freedom of religious practice in their countries. Until such a point, Islam must be recognized as an anti-religious political force, much like communism, and undergo legal prohibition.

For a temporary period, every mosque in countries with freedom of religion should be shut down and closed to all public access. If, during that period (e.g., five years), Islamic countries cannot decide to grant freedom of religious practice within their borders, then all of the closed mosques should be demolished as symbols of religious oppression.

I'm sure many of you are thinking this to be the utmost in hypocrisy. It is not. The time has come for Islam to be redefined as a political ideology and acted upon as such. Properly practiced religion has an underlaying foundation of tolerance for all humanity and especially those people of faith, be they of similar or different belief.

Any putative belief system that seeks the destruction of all other faiths cannot, ipso facto, be a true religion and therefore must be removed from those societies that grant freedom of worship.

It is time for Islam to pay the piper. The sooner we start, the less likely we are to reach the tipping point. If we do not give Islam a shot across the bow, it will only accelerate the process whereby the cost of coexisting with Muslims will far exceed the cost of exterminating them. The measures I suggest are meant to reform Islam, not obliterate it. Should Muslims be unable to renounce their intentions of global domination, it will prove their intolerance of religious freedom and pass sentence upon themselves.

Should Islamic dominated countries refuse to grant freedom of worship, all countries with such freedom should ban any further practicing of the Muslim faith. Muslims should be encouraged to return to those countries which permit free worship of Allah.

This would at least achieve containment. Should terrorist atrocities against the Kufir world continue, Muslims would be concentrated where collective retribution could be exercised cleanly and with clear demonstration of consequence to those who promote violent jihad.

We in the West are already subject to collective punishment via atrocities committed by Islamist terrorists. I have now passed the point where there is any valid arguement against collective punishment of those countries which openly advocate violent jihad.

Either Islam actively seeks to deter arrival at the tipping point or they shall only speed its occurence. Islam has yet to aggressively thin its ranks of violent jihadists. This only serves to lever the tipping point against themselves. The West is not obliged, in the least, to stop Islam from disqualifying itself from existence. It is up to Islam and Islam alone. If Muslims refuse to assertively counterbalance the way Islamist terrorism weighs against them, they invite their own destruction. The West, out of simple self-preservation, is forced to oblige Islam's death wish should they prove unable or unwilling to abandon their cult of martyrdom.

Posted by Zenster 2006-02-27 11:16|| 2006-02-27 11:16|| Front Page Top

#11 I've judged I-slam and found it wanting.

Time for a civilized religion.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-02-27 12:14|| 2006-02-27 12:14|| Front Page Top

#12 peripheral comment on the 'hidden Mahdi' ...

The myth of the hidden/sleeping great leader who will return is a powerful one in many cultures. King Arthur and 7 key knights are said to be sleeping beneath a certain lake in Wales and will return once again to protect Britain against the dark forces that threaten to overwhem her, as they did in the historic Arthur's time.

Not saying I particularly appreciate Ahmadinajad's take on things - expecially the cultivation of chaos and death, just the opposite of the things that the great King stands for. Just noting that the idea isn't a unique or totally unattractive one for many people including some westerners who are quite clear it's mythical.

I will not go near any parallels to the 2nd coming of Christ.

Posted by lotp 2006-02-27 12:45|| 2006-02-27 12:45|| Front Page Top

#13 ...the 12th imam, Mohammed al-Mahdi, who is said to have gone into hiding through a cellar in the complex in 878, and is expected to return on Judgment Day.

If the Mahdi comes out of his cellar and sees his shadow does that mean 6 more years of bloodshed?

Posted by Xbalanke 2006-02-27 14:34|| 2006-02-27 14:34|| Front Page Top

#14 islam is a death cult - even their "leaders" acknowledge they "worship" death. It needs to be banned because it IS a cult, and one that breeds contempt of organized, peaceful society. If there's no other way to contain it within the bounds of the Arab peninsula, it should be destroyed, beginning with Mecca, the moon-god headquarters.

Islam is the expression of the anti-Christ. Read its precepts and compare them with Judaism - they're polar opposites. The destruction of Islam is the destruction of the forces of organized evil. All this "religion of peace" is horseapples - the religion of pieces is more apt.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-02-27 15:12|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-02-27 15:12|| Front Page Top

#15 The 14th Mahdi (the Mahdi in the Attic) is the one to fear.

Posted by 6 2006-02-27 16:51|| 2006-02-27 16:51|| Front Page Top

#16 Seen one mahdi, you've seen 'em all. Dead.

Posted by Inspector Clueso 2006-02-27 19:17|| 2006-02-27 19:17|| Front Page Top

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