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2006-10-28 Home Front: Culture Wars
Trial draws attention to genital cutting
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Posted by .com 2006-10-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Jeezus. Why not make "returning the favor" the punishment for this kind of crap?
Posted by gorb 2006-10-28 04:16||   2006-10-28 04:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Insane. Just insane. For this reason alone, Islam should be wiped from the face of this earth.

The report estimated that 73 percent of women in Ethiopia had undergone the procedure, based on a 1997 survey.

Taina Bien-Aime, executive director of Equality Now, an international human rights group, said female circumcision is most widely practiced in a 28-country swath of Africa. She said more than 90 percent of women in Ethiopia are believed to have been subjected to the practice, and more in places like Egypt and Somalia.

"It is a preparation for marriage," Bien-Aime said. "If the girl is not circumcised, her chances of being married are very slim."


Kill everyone involved with this barbarically cruel practice. Then kill anyone who even suggests it, just to be on the safe side. Also make sure to kill all males who remotely support this sort of brutal savagery. This is nothing less than a massive crime against humanity.

How many Muslim males would allow the tip of their penis to be lopped off? End of story. Islam is utterly worthless.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-28 04:23||   2006-10-28 04:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Zenster you are such a tool, all you ever talk about is killing all muslims. If that is the way you fell get started. I sure don't look forward to the genocie 1/4 of the world population.

You must have missed the past in this article that says is crosses culturial and religious lines. You likelty should read it again.

Lurk more and post less of your racist bull shit.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-10-28 06:06|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-10-28 06:06|| Front Page Top

#4 No, I'm with Zenster on this one. Kill the Muslims, then we'll get on this mutilation thing.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-10-28 07:50||   2006-10-28 07:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, and muslims arent a race Sock Pup-tent.
So it's hard to call it racism.
Muslims can be chinese, chechens, bosnians, .....
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-10-28 07:51||   2006-10-28 07:51|| Front Page Top

#6 "Federal law specifically bans the practice, but many states do not have a law addressing it".

BS.

I don't know what they call it in other states, but in Ohio they call it Felonius Assault w/ a deadly weapon.

For the record, I don't believe daddy muzzie when he says he didn't do. Nor do I believe mommy muzzie when she says she didn't know about it for more than a year.
Posted by Mark Z 2006-10-28 08:35||   2006-10-28 08:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Genital mutilation is an African TRIBAL custom. It was practiced by many tribes before Islam ever came to the continent.

It's a barbaric custom and must not be allowed to occur here. Period.

But it is not called for by Islam. The most you can say is that Islam did not put a stop to an old, old and horrific tribal custom, any more than Islam has put an end to the tribal custom of revenge rapes in Pakistan and Afghanistan -- also a practice that predates Islam in the area.

The genocide thing is getting old, folks. Rantburg is not a hate site. Ditch the meme.
Posted by lotp 2006-10-28 08:50||   2006-10-28 08:50|| Front Page Top

#8 I think a person has every right to hate their sworn enemy. They have sworn to annihilate us, citing their own holy scripture as proof of the virtue of their despicable deeds. Maybe you are ready to forgive for the approx. 3000 people who died on 9/11, I'm not. I think we should have dealt out a much more punishing series of wars and kept what we captured for ourselves. Just sayin.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-10-28 09:36||   2006-10-28 09:36|| Front Page Top

#9 child's mother said she did not discover it until more than a year later.


Right.. the screaming and the bloody diapers didn't clue you in. Means the baby didn't receive any medical attention "until more than a year later". Sick, twisted, fetish-driven, inhuman scum.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-10-28 10:06||   2006-10-28 10:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Just because we continue to allow 3rd world low lifes to creep into our country does not mean we tolerate their pre-historic rituals because it's part of thier "culture." F**k their "culture". We want none of it. Jail this low-life (and the mother too) shit for 20 years then deport the fool to the dump he sneaked out of. This is not tolerable.
Posted by SpecOp35 2006-10-28 12:08||   2006-10-28 12:08|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm there, SpecOp35. I've marveled at the sacrosanct notion that customs and traditions, sometimes useful survival mechanisms for a moment in time - but often long-surpassed, merely artifacts of insane drivel or barbarism, have been elevated to the heights and given the unassailable label of "culture".

Fuck culture. Read the history book, if you're so weak and frightened by reality you need a self-esteem boost, but don't live in the past, don't drag that obsolete bullshit along with you - this is America, the place which has proven beyond any doubt that the baggage of history is to be studied, not repeated.

America is the land of the future, looking forward 95% of the time, reflecting upon the past 5% of the time. Everywhere else in the world, the figures are reversed - and it stunts them, stifles them, and leaves them choking on our dust.

Fuck the farce of culture and the PC-addled morons who fear the future so much, probably correctly since they possess no skills with which to earn a place within it, they prostrate themselves in front of this altar of ancient barbarity.
Posted by .com 2006-10-28 12:35||   2006-10-28 12:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Female genital mutilation is a barbaric practice, at least in this country. People that practice this act violate the law and are not welcome here. If the people from Ethopia want to practice this cullllllllltural tradition, they can practice in their own little piece of heaven-on-earth in the sh*thole that Africa has become.

The bigger question of why the federal government is in this people importing resettlement business is what we should be asking. We need people that will contribute to our society and not be a drain on it. We need to make a sensible immigration policy. Get that hammered out right away. Then, armed with a sensible policy, dismiss all the present administrators and start afresh.

Lastly, I am not an advocate of blowing all the muslims away with nukes or whatever. But I am an advocate of taking out Islamist leaders that preach death to this country, incite others to commit terrorist acts against this country and its citizens, and those that aid and abett and finance same. They have declared war on us, so, psychopaths that they are, they need a bit of pain to get the message across to leave us alone.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-10-28 14:35||   2006-10-28 14:35|| Front Page Top

#13 The genocide thing is getting old, folks. Rantburg is not a hate site. Ditch the meme.

Ah, yes. Some got there sooner then you did, lotp. And some arrived too late.

May I suggest a viable alternative? It would be far more beneficial to discuss Islam as a despicable way of life, bringing to the foreground all its absurdities and backwardness, than to talk of killing everyone associated with it. That way, assertions such as "Islam should be wiped from the face of this earth" become somewhat more palatable. Or at least, one could make a darn good argument for it.
Posted by Shaviting Phinens9082 2006-10-28 14:42||   2006-10-28 14:42|| Front Page Top

#14  Maybe you are ready to forgive for the approx. 3000 people who died on 9/11, I'm not

Red herring, bigjim. The issue in this thread is genital mutilation and whether it is an Islamic thing or a tribal thing.

We all know about 9/11. And at the risk of boring regulars, my daughter was just up the street from the Twin Towers that day. Friends of ours from before my husband retired from military service were in the wing of the Pentagon that was hit. Etc Etc.

Hate muslims all you like. Argue your case for what we should do.

But if that case is based on untruths, then I or others are likely to call attention to that fact.
Posted by lotp 2006-10-28 14:43||   2006-10-28 14:43|| Front Page Top

#15 We need people that will contribute to our society and not be a drain on it. We need to make a sensible immigration policy.

How about introducing a compatability test for all would-be immigrants? Have them prove first that they are compatible with Western society, but don't provide any pointers or help. It would be easy for some, but harder for others, but then that would be a feature and not a bug.

This would put the onus on the immigrant to learn about our society and see if they would actually want to live here. I have met a lot of normal (i.e. non-frothing at the mouth) immigrants who regret having come here, for this reason or other. This breeds resentment, and in turn this resentment is passed down to the kids. This is one source of the "homegrown" variety of terrorist. I've seen this personally, though I don't know anyone who turned to terrorism as a result.
Posted by Shaviting Phinens9082 2006-10-28 14:57||   2006-10-28 14:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Zenster you are such a tool, all you ever talk about is killing all muslims.

Yawn, where in post # 2 do I talk about "killing all muslims"? Yes, I mention wiping Islam from the face of the earth. That, in no way, implies or requires slaughtering all of its adherents. I just want to see this incredibly barbaric dogma entirely reformed or banned world-wide.

While female genital mutilation "crosses culturial and religious lines", it is Islam alone that has elevated Abject Gender Apartheid and violence against women into an institutionalized feature of its dogma. I just happen to be sick to fucking death of women being treated this way and having to put up with a bunch of smug, self-satisfied cowardly bastards who fancy themselve to be Lions of Islam™ because they can beat the shit out of their wives and get patted on the back for it by the local imam.

SPoD, you can also take you accusations of racism and stick them where the sun don't shine. I refuse to even defend myself against such disgusting slander.

If you even bothered to pay attention to my post, I recommend that we should; "Kill everyone involved with this barbarically cruel practice. Then kill anyone who even suggests it, just to be on the safe side. Also make sure to kill all males who remotely support this sort of brutal savagery."

Did you bother to notice how my suggestion "crosses culturial and religious lines"? I don't give a hot damn who is practicing this or whatever fucking faith they are, Christian, Islamic, Animist or whatever, ALL OF THEM need to be dispatched promptly. As I said, this is a massive crime against humanity with MILLIONS OF YOUNG WOMEN EACH YEAR undergoing this hideous practice.

For the record, I don't believe daddy muzzie when he says he didn't do. Nor do I believe mommy muzzie when she says she didn't know about it for more than a year. Bingo, Mark Z.

Right.. the screaming and the bloody diapers didn't clue you in. Means the baby didn't receive any medical attention "until more than a year later". Sick, twisted, fetish-driven, inhuman scum. I couldn't agree with you more, Thinemp Whimble2412.

Genital mutilation is an African TRIBAL custom. It was practiced by many tribes before Islam ever came to the continent.

Female Genital Mutilation is not restricted to the African continent.

Female genital cutting is today mainly practiced in African countries. It is common in a band that stretches from Senegal in West Africa to Somalia on the East coast, as well as from Egypt in the north to Tanzania in the south. In these regions, it is estimated that more than 95% of all women have undergone this procedure. It is also practiced by some groups in the Arabian peninsula, especially among a minority (20%) in Yemen. The majority of Muslim countries (except in parts of sub-Saharan Africa) do not practice it [15].

Although it is practiced by African Muslims, it is also known to exist throughout the Middle East, though it is veiled in secrecy, unlike in parts of Africa, where it is practiced relatively openly. The practice occurs particularly in northern Saudi Arabia, southern Jordan, and Iraq, and there is also circumstantial evidence to suggest it is present in Syria, western Iran and southern Turkey [16]. In Oman a few communities still practice FGC; however, experts believed that the number of such cases was small and declining annually. In the United Arab Emirates and also Saudi Arabia, it's practiced among some foreign workers from East Africa and the Nile Valley.

The practice can also be found among a few ethnic groups in South America and India. In Indonesia [17] and Malaysia the practice is fairly common among the country's Muslim women; however, in contrast to Africa, almost all are Type I or Type IV (involving a symbolic prick to release blood) procedures.
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I'll make note of how, despite disclaimers as to its popularity, nearly all of the non-African nations practicing this revolting form of partial femicide, are almost entirely Muslim majority countries.

I think a person has every right to hate their sworn enemy. They have sworn to annihilate us, citing their own holy scripture as proof of the virtue of their despicable deeds. Maybe you are ready to forgive for the approx. 3000 people who died on 9/11, I'm not. Hard to argue with you, bigjim – ky

this is America, the place which has proven beyond any doubt that the baggage of history is to be studied, not repeated.

America is the land of the future, looking forward 95% of the time, reflecting upon the past 5% of the time. Everywhere else in the world, the figures are reversed - and it stunts them, stifles them, and leaves them choking on our dust.

Fuck the farce of culture and the PC-addled morons who fear the future so much, probably correctly since they possess no skills with which to earn a place within it, they prostrate themselves in front of this altar of ancient barbarity.
Spot on, .com

We are under zer-fucking-oh obligation to respect, preserve or even tolerate this sort of barbaric bullshit. Contrary to what others may claim, there is strong evidence to indicate that Islam both condones and perpetuates this filthy and depraved oppression of women. It certainly fits right in with everything else this savage dogma decrees for women. With moron feminists like Germaine Greer reaching full circle in their moral relativism and actually defending the cultural right to practice this horrendous trash, it is up to civilized nations like America to actively fight against this sort of barbarity.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-28 15:30||   2006-10-28 15:30|| Front Page Top

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