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MN: Workers say 400 detained in Worthington raid

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Posted by .com 2006-12-13 04:02|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Won't someone please think of the children." [/Mrs. Lovejoy]

All the howling over the poor widdle kiddies. Gee, didn't the parents bother thinking about what would happen to their spawn if they happened to be trundled off by la mirge?

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-13 04:42|| 2006-12-13 04:42|| Front Page Top

#2 When people make a point out of liberal California I am always glad that there is Social Democratic Minnesota which is even worse.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-12-13 04:53|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com] 2006-12-13 04:53|| Front Page Top

#3 "What it demonstrates is that employers need people to work," Duthoy said.

There mustn't be any unemployed citizens in Minnesota.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-12-13 06:23|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-12-13 06:23|| Front Page Top

#4 "The question is, is it fair to the kids? They're the ones who are getting hurt in this deal."

Yeah!Cmon you bunch of selfish bastards. So what if youre the victim of identity theft. Suck it upsheeesh. Think about the kids.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-12-13 09:22|| 2006-12-13 09:22|| Front Page Top

#5 Regardless of where one stands on immigration, it's a violation of the law to use a phony ID or social security number to get a job. It corrupts the system. If the Feds are cracking down on this more power to 'em.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-12-13 10:47|| 2006-12-13 10:47|| Front Page Top

#6 This whole episode smells, and I think we're getting played. It does appear that this company has been trying to comply with Federal law. I see almost nothing in the story that indicates they are going after the suppliers of tthe IDs.

Most importantly, this bust is designed to hit all of us in the pocketbook, and one week before Christmas feasting. This company is obviously one of the major meat suppliers in the US, and their production has been totally disrupted. Much of the meat scheduled for processing will rot while the feds take their sweet time 'investigating'. This was designed to get lots of press and manipulate the public. They could have easily arrested 10,000 landscapers and only a few ppl would notice.

Yes, I know these are illegal immigrants, and yes I know they are using stolen IDs, but this bust IMO is designed to push the RINO and Dem amnesty program.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-12-13 11:43|| 2006-12-13 11:43|| Front Page Top

#7 PS Keith Ellison will come out of this as the Shining Congresscritter on the Hill, standing up for the legitimate rights of the Opressed Brown Persons.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-12-13 11:45|| 2006-12-13 11:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Yet another example of why I need to get out of Mexisotastan.

Posted by Mike N. 2006-12-13 12:16|| 2006-12-13 12:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Clue

a Nation State is only as good as it's 'covenant', 'promise', 'agreement' between it [sic the Nation] and it's

citizen, member of a state, native or naturalized, who owes allegiance to the government of the state and is entitled to certain rights. Citizens may be said to enjoy the most privileged form of nationality; they are at the furthest extreme from nonnational residents of a state (see alien), but they may also be distinguished from nationals with subject or servile status (e.g., slaves or serfs; see serf, slavery). (It should be noted, however, that in Great Britain and some other constitutional monarchies a citizen is called a subject.)

The term citizen originally designated the inhabitant of a town. In ancient Greece property owners in the city-states were citizens and, as such, might vote and were subject to taxation and military service. Citizenship in the Roman Empire was at first limited to the residents of the city of Rome and was then extended in A.D. 212 to all free inhabitants of the empire. Under feudalism in Europe the concept of national citizenship disappeared. In time, however, city dwellers purchased the immunity of their cities from feudal dues, thereby achieving a privileged position and a power in local government; these rights were akin to those of citizenship and supplied much of the content of later legislation respecting citizenship.

Modern concepts of national citizenship were first developed during the American and French revolutions. Today each country determines what class of persons are its citizens. In some countries citizenship is determined according to the jus sanguinis [Lat.,=law of blood], whereby a legitimate child takes its citizenship from its father and an illegitimate child from its mother. In some countries the jus soli [Lat.,=law of the soil] governs, and citizenship is determined by place of birth. These divergent systems may lead to conflicts that often result in dual nationality or loss of citizenship (statelessness).

Although the Constitution of the United States, as written in 1787, uses the word citizen and empowers Congress to enact uniform naturalization laws, the term was not defined until the adoption (1868) of the Fourteenth Amendment, which gave citizenship to former black slaves. As this amendment indicates, the United States generally follows the jus soli. However, Congress has also recognized, subject to strict rules, the principle of jus sanguinis so that children born of American parents abroad are citizens during their minority and can retain this citizenship at majority if they meet certain conditions. In addition, in 2000, Congress granted automatic citizenship to most minor children of American parents who were adopted from abroad; previously such adopted children needed to be naturalized. Until the 1940s the United States recognized several classes of nationals who were not citizens, e.g., Filipinos and Puerto Ricans. Today, however, all U.S. nationals are citizens. The United States recognizes the right of voluntary extradition, and in 1967 the Supreme Court ruled that citizenship can be lost only if freely and expressly renounced; Congress does not have the power to take it away.

group 1 = the Citizens.

group 2 = everyone else.

Posted by RD 2006-12-13 12:24|| 2006-12-13 12:24|| Front Page Top

#10 so solly about the bold....a tag got loose

Posted by RD 2006-12-13 12:25|| 2006-12-13 12:25|| Front Page Top

#11 You know the citizens of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico can freely travel between their generally autonomous island and the US. I'm sure the future citizens of the Commonwealth of Mexico will be able to do the same. You're going to get them and their problems anyway, why not get the whole damn place along with it.

Oh, and to get back at these companies and employers, when the Donks bring up raising minimum wage, add another category with the existing agricultural and non-agricultural definitions. Add illegals at triple the hourly rate along with the legislative wording allowing them to sue their employers for back wages with a second tripling of the award and all costs incurred for them and their torte lawyers. No need for the government to act, the ~~privateers with letters of mark and reprisal~~ lawyers will do it for them.

Posted by Procopius2k 2006-12-13 13:15|| 2006-12-13 13:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Can someone please explain to me why the fuck the people that run these plants aren't in jail?!

Thank you Bush.

Posted by Icerigger 2006-12-13 14:32|| 2006-12-13 14:32|| Front Page Top

#13 "Swift has played by the rules and relied in good faith on a program explicitly held out by the president of the United States as an effective tool to help employers comply with applicable immigration laws," the company's CEO, Sam Rovit, said.

We're shocked, shocked, that 400 of our 1000 first shift employees appear to be illegal!
Sound like he blames Bush, too...

Posted by tu3031 2006-12-13 14:35|| 2006-12-13 14:35|| Front Page Top

#14 Grand Island Police Chief Steve Lamken said he refused to let his officers take part in the raid.
On other news, the Grand Island Police will be giving out more tickets this holiday season to help cover the loss of declining tax revenue due to a decline in the number of Swift meat packing employees. Special emphasis will be given to objects hanging from rear view mirrors, headlights or tail lights not working, low tire pressure, loud speakers, and other major social problems.

Posted by wxjames 2006-12-13 14:38|| 2006-12-13 14:38|| Front Page Top

#15 He's mad 'cos even though he played propoerly by the rules of the 'wink wink nudge nudge' game with the Administration, they're now throwing him under the bus. I'd be mad too.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-12-13 14:38|| 2006-12-13 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 'Tis a sad day for civil rights in America when people can be treated as criminals for merely committing multiple illegal acts.

Posted by SteveS 2006-12-13 18:43|| 2006-12-13 18:43|| Front Page Top

#17 Good point SteveS. Lets not forget that these are ILLEGAL ALIENS who are also identity thieves.

I feel sorry for the kids but its the parents fault - they are the ones people should be pissed at not law enforcement.

Grand Island Police Chief Steve Lamken said he refused to let his officers take part in the raid.
Pull his federal funds then. If he's not going to enforce the law then he should not be getting any federal funds. I'm sure the illegals will help him with his bake sale.

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