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2007-11-12 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Ignore Al Gore - but not his Nobel friends

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Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-11-12 11:54|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 So the choice is between "crazy" and "less crazy"?

Posted by Iblis 2007-11-12 13:31|| 2007-11-12 13:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Actually you can think of it as Pure BS and Slightly less Pure BS that people might buy if they're stupid and have nails in their head.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2007-11-12 15:26|| 2007-11-12 15:26|| Front Page Top

#3 I have no problem with accepting the earth may be warming...or cooling. It's called weather, and it goes in cycles. I do have a problem with the level assumed of human impact and the efforts to throttle our economy and lifestyles to keep the grant-whores, Gaia worshipping socialists, and holier-than-thou hypocrites

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-12 18:40|| 2007-11-12 18:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Hysteria aside and recognizing no one has the answer:
No one honestly thinks that our collective use of the earth's resources - whether of fish stocks, fresh water (currently living in atlanta, so this one hits close to home), carbon-based fuels, etc. - is sustainable, do they? Do you feel in your gut that the status quo 'works'? Then let's stop arguing about *how much* the oceans will rise, just *how few* fish there will be and start doing something about it. Seems alot of folks are missing the point just because Al Gore is a retard.

Posted by Geoffro 2007-11-12 19:56|| 2007-11-12 19:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Get a grip Geoffro. It's not the first world killing the environment as much as the impoverished world. How many square miles of 'precious' Amazon rainforest are being burnt for more 'ecological' power alternatives? The water and air is cleaner with 100 million more people around the US today than it was forty years ago. The obstruction from employing French/Swedish style nuke plants wasn't because of raving capitalism, but the very same community you're swimming in. We're tired of the hysteria and irrational spin as fronts for Marxism Part Two - the Collective.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-12 20:13|| 2007-11-12 20:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Okay, Geoffro, you're right: Al Gore is a retard and let's do something. You can start by not eating fish more than twice a year, not showering more than once a month, and cutting your fuel consumption by 90%. That includes electricity that is made using carbon-based fuel. Drop back in a year and let us know how things are going.

Seriously, I'll bet that:
You drove more than 10 miles today in a vehicle that gets less than 30 mpg.
You've made no effort to consolidate trips this week.
There are lights on in unoccupied rooms in your house right now.
You have more rooms than people.
You shower daily.
You've put food in the trash can in the last 24 hours.

Posted by Darrell 2007-11-12 20:37|| 2007-11-12 20:37|| Front Page Top

#7 Here it comes, Carla Del Ponte can't wait:

The U.N.'s top climate official warned policymakers and scientists trying to hammer out a landmark report on climate change that ignoring the urgency of global warming would be "criminally irresponsible."

Yvo de Boer's comments came at the opening of a weeklong conference that will complete a concise guide on the state of global warming and what can be done to stop the Earth from overheating. It is the fourth and last report issued this year by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, co-winner of this year's Nobel Peace prize.

Environmentalists and authors of the report expected tense discussions on what to include and leave out of the document, which is a synthesis of thousands of scientific papers. A summary of about 25 pages will be negotiated line-by-line this week, then adopted by consensus.

Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Nobel Prize-winning panel, said scientists were determined to "adhere to standards of quality" in the report. It was indirect barb at the government representatives, who have been accused by environmentalists of watering down and excluding vital information from the summaries of earlier reports to fit their domestic agendas.

The document to be issued Saturday sums up the scientific consensus on how rapidly the Earth is warming and the effects already observed; the impact it could have for billions of people; and what steps can be taken to keep the planet's temperature from rising to disastrous levels.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-12 20:47|| 2007-11-12 20:47|| Front Page Top

#8 No one honestly thinks that our collective use of the earth's resources - whether of fish stocks, fresh water (currently living in atlanta, so this one hits close to home), carbon-based fuels, etc. - is sustainable, do they? Do you feel in your gut that the status quo 'works'?

Yes, in countries with a free market and democratic elections, and Yes with the same condition.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-12 20:49|| 2007-11-12 20:49|| Front Page Top

#9 More:
Everyone will feel its effects, but global warming will hit the poorest countries hardest and will "threaten the very survival" of some people, he said.

"Failing to recognize the urgency of this message and act on it would be nothing less that criminally irresponsible" and a direct attack on the world's poorest people, De Boer said.

The report will provide the factual underpinning for a crucial meeting next month in Bali, Indonesia.

you can bet every one of these assholes will be flying in on private jets

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-12 20:50|| 2007-11-12 20:50|| Front Page Top

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