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2011-11-16 China-Japan-Koreas

ROK Lacks Radar to Detect Nork Artillery

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Posted by Steve White 2011-11-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 I seem to remember that Seoul is also within the umbrella of Nork air defense, from units staged north of the DMZ. Without turning Seoul to rubble, the airport could simply be shutdown by the insurers of international carriers.

Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-16 00:33|| 2011-11-16 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't suppose it matters that they couldn't spot rounds falling in the ocean. It doesn't even matter if they can track the rounds back. To deal with the NORK arty, they need to get counterbattery going before the guns are pulled back into their caves.
See Redleg rumba for how fast a good crew can fire a 155. They could burn out the barrel before the counterbattery guys got out of bed.
Unless the counterbattery units are on permanent, crew in the pit drinking coffee, twenty-four seven, alert.
Once it gets to swapping rounds, the SKORs will probably be outgunned and out outshot.

Posted by Richard Aubrey 2011-11-16 10:34|| 2011-11-16 10:34|| Front Page Top

#3 The ROK's defense of Seoul is for nationalist - socio-cultural purposes only - their real HQ, Govt-plex for fighting off a DPRK invasion is much further south.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-16 19:15|| 2011-11-16 19:15|| Front Page Top

#4 ION DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > NORTH KOREA TEST-FIRES MISSLES [anti-Naval = Air-to-Ship] IN YELLOW SEA: REPORT [Yonhap News].

versus

CHINESE MILITARY FORUM > [SecState Hillary] CLINTON USES WARSHIP TO PUSH PHILIPPINES ALLIANCE, i.e. strong US-PHIL, Regional = Pacific-wide Alliance.

* SAME > AMERICAN'S AIRSEA BATTLE PLAN |[People's Daily] AIRSEA BATTLE PLAN RENEWS OLD HOSTILITY.

* SAME > OBAMA SAYS US WILL BOOST AUSTRALIA MILITARY TIES.

POSTER = argues that US plan to have US Marines train alongside AUS forces, 250 Marines to start next year + rising up to 2500 oer next six years [2018? = USMC Air-Ground Task Force size], is merely MORE ANTI-CHINA 2012 RE-ELECTION HYPE TO HELP A WEAK-N-GETTING WEAKER? OBAMA ADMIN. CHINA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THESE "PAMPERED" MARINES AS IT WAS ABLE TO PUSH THEM BACK FROM THE YALU DURING THE FIRST KOREAN WAR, + HOW CAN THESE SAME HOPE TO DEFEAT CHINA IFF THEY CAN'T DEFEAT GOAT-HERDING, BACKWARD MUSLIM JIHADISTS IN AFGHANISTAN WHOSE KABUL GOVT OPERATES ON AN ANNUAL BUDGET 10x LESS???

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* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA WARNED AUSTRALIA OVER US MILITARY BASE | [Global Times] AUSTRALIA COULD BE CAUGHT IN SINO-US CROSSFIRE.

* SAME > AUSTRALIA TO HOST US SOLDIERS PERMANENTLY | [ABC.Net] AUSTRALIA TO HOST PERMANENT US TRAINING BASE.

* SAME, YPOX > PHILIPINES REJECTS CHINESE NEW TERRITORIAL CLAIMS. "Areas 3, 4" 50 miles from the Phillipines' PALAWAN PROVINCE [island].

Again, Rising China wants "sole" or "joint" [PLA-dominated/controlled] Basing Rights throughout the "First Island Chain", to which AFAIK it is having little to no luck achieving.CONSEQUENTLY,
IT IS NOT COMPROMISING OR GIVING UP ITS CLAIMS OF ABSOLUTE NATIONAL = "CHINA-ONLY" SOVEREIGNTY TO VARIOUS DISPUTED SOUTH + EAST CHINA SEA ISLES, + BULK [NLT 70%] OF SOUTH CHINA SEA REGION PER SE, IS PREPARED TO MILITARILY DEFEND ITS FORESAID CLAIMS, + WILL NOT ENGAGE OR SHARE IN MULTILATERAL OR "JOINT" ECON DEV OF THESE DISPUTED ISLES WID SMALLER NATIONS [e.g. ASEAN States] UNLESS ITS ABSOLUTE SOVEREIGNTY OVER DISPUTED ISLES, REGION IS FORMALLY ACKNOWLEDGED.

Beijing's idea of engaging in "joint" or multi-national dev of the SCS Region, etc, is BUILDING PLA MILFACS + [armed?]OIL-GAS RIGS RIGHT NEXT TO THOSE OF ASEAN STATES IN DISPUTED ISLES OR ENERGY FIELDS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-16 21:29|| 2011-11-16 21:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Moved it out of Yongson to the mountain Joe?
Still got the parade ground in Itaewon?

Posted by Skidmark 2011-11-16 23:29|| 2011-11-16 23:29|| Front Page Top

#6 This story is just a big pile of poo.

Yes, it is true that in poo there are often nuggets that burn hot, but they are still poo.

The Skors have tons of counter battery radars. Most of the time they are working great. Yes, sometimes there are some gaps. These systems do not cost billions of dollars. Six million should buy a TPQ-36 system plus some for support and spares. There are also smaller systems than those in the article that go for less than a million that do the job. They are easily affordable and can be massively deployed.

Whoever wrote this article has access to some kind of facts, and has augmented it with lots of bull-shit to seem important. May he roast in hell for confusing you. Sadly I cannot help you sort out which is which.

Just understand that the Sorks know where the Norks party places might be. Do a terrain analysis off of Google Earth and you can do it yourself. And understand that knowing most of the Nork's party places, the Sorks are ready to kick their commie butts.

If you are a Nork reading this know that you will quickly die if you are in a party place and doing wrong to the Sorks. Really. So dead. And I mean quickly. Not like you get to check your watch and stuff like the Nork Colonel, way far away, on the radio said.

To paraphrase from Nike, Just don't do it. Take a sickie that day. It could save your life.

Posted by rammer 2011-11-16 23:36|| 2011-11-16 23:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Thank you, rammer dear. You say such useful things! :-)

Posted by trailing wife 2011-11-16 23:57|| 2011-11-16 23:57|| Front Page Top

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